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n2nh
03-22-2008, 07:19 AM
After hearing about New Yorkers and how horrible they are, and how Liberals are being compared to Socialists and Communists, isn't it a hoot to find out that the real problem isn't Liberals, it's NEOKONS!

Irving Kristol (Father of William Kristol):

Kristol was born into an Orthodox Jewish family, and had a bar mitzvah. However, he maintains that belief had nothing to do with his family's observance. He earned his B.A. in History from the City College of New York in 1940, where he was an active Trotskyist. Before graduating, he met Gertrude Himmelfarb at a Trotskyist meeting, and they married on January 18, 1942. He wrote in 1983 that he was “proud” to have been a member of the Fourth International in 1940.

Comrade Kristol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol)

Trotskyists

Trotskyists regard themselves as working in opposition to both capitalism and Stalinism. Trotsky advocated proletarian revolution as set out in his theory of "permanent revolution", and believed that a workers' state would not be able to hold out against the pressures of a hostile capitalist world unless socialist revolutions quickly took hold in other countries as well. This theory was advanced in opposition to the view held by the Stalinists that "socialism in one country" could be built in the Soviet Union alone. Furthermore, Trotsky and his supporters harshly criticised the increasingly totalitarian nature of Joseph Stalin's rule. They argued that socialism without democracy is impossible.

The Fourth International (FI) is a communist international organisation working in opposition to both capitalism and Stalinism. Consisting of followers of Leon Trotsky, it has striven for an eventual victory of the working class to bring about socialism.

In France in 1938, Trotsky and many of his supporters, having been expelled from the Soviet Union, considered the Comintern to have become lost to Stalinism and incapable of leading the international working class towards political power. Thus, they founded their own competing "Fourth International."

And were hounded by the USSR because they didn't like the competition.

Who's the Rotten Commie Socialists eating our society from within?:rolleyes::eek:

kc2orw
03-22-2008, 03:33 PM
Amazing what some of these staunch supporters don't understand or know ain't it :D

n2nh
03-22-2008, 03:41 PM
Amazing what some of these staunch supporters don't understand or know ain't it :D

Worse yet, how many times have I heard that I was a New Yorker with a New York point of view and trying to tell everyone how to live like a New Yorker??

So, NeoKons are listening to a New Yorker and have literally NOTHING to say about him telling them how to live?

Worse yet, this dirty little Trotskyist secret they have. Maybe there's a reason William Kristol, Harvard Grad, Magna Cum Laude, hasn't gotten doody right since he graduated college? He's a Fifth Columnist!

W3MIV
03-22-2008, 04:55 PM
Jeez, Johnny, but you do go on!

n2nh
03-22-2008, 05:03 PM
Jeez, Johnny, but you do go on!

This brings to mind all the losers that try to equate my opinion with dogma just because they can't refute me on the facts. You know, the ones that say that because I'm a New York I don't really have a valid viewpoint? The ones that say I'm telling them how to live? More like they can't take the facts and would prefer to restrict freedom of speech to what they agree with. Come to think of it, that even sounds like a Commie way of thinking.

All the while living the lifestyle that a New Yorker made for them. While listening to a New Yorker who really IS a Commie.

What a HOOT!
;)

kc2orw
03-23-2008, 12:03 AM
Worse yet, how many times have I heard that I was a New Yorker with a New York point of view and trying to tell everyone how to live like a New Yorker??


It cracks me that some like to complain about New Yorkers when they are voting for shills who serve at the behest of Wall Street (New Yorkers)

I keep telling them Sean Hannity is a Noo Yawker from Lon Guyland but they shut their eyes and ears, oh well :D

KB9YCO
03-23-2008, 12:31 AM
I don't know, do we condemn Kristol for what his father did? Doesn't seem fair.

Besides, I would much rather condemn him for being a hypocrite, liar, and just plain moron. I'm not usually into name-calling, but he sure fits the bill a little too well.

kc7jty
03-23-2008, 12:51 AM
I'm sure he'll cry all the way to the bank of public popularity.

n2nh
03-23-2008, 02:17 PM
You are quite right and no I'm not condemning William for what Irving did. I am bringing up the point that those who finger-point and slur all those around them who automatically disagree as Commies and Socialists have plenty of Commie and Socialistic skeletons in their closet. Their founder has a lot too, many he claims he's STILL proud of. The only reason Bill is mentioned is because I knew that a lot of people would recognize the name. But ya gotta think, if BOTH Bill Kristols parents were Communists and Socialists, then didn't he grow up with those values too??? Wouldn't they have brought him up that way?? Wouldn't that be second nature to him??

We also have those who have an anti-New York bias. Those who seem to feel that if you're from NYC you are trying to tell them "how to live" and therefore have no right to any opinion what-so-ever. This is something I've heard of countless times, when I've expressed my opinions. OTOH, have a gun, then please by all means tell those of us without them how to live.

Yet here we have not only a Commie and a Socialist starting the NeoCon movement, but worse yet, He's A New Yorker!

As is Bill O'Reilly.

As is Rush Limbaugh.

As is Sean Hannity.

As is Ann Coulter.

As is Irving Kristol. (Heck he's a Brooklynite too)

As is William Kristol.

The list goes on. What's the difference? Oh, yeh, they AGREE with Bill, Rush, Sean, Ann and the others. SO I guess it's okay for them to have an opinion. Anybody else is a... think twice, we've got Commies here.

Sounds very Communistic to me. Maybe this goes well in China, but not in the good old, Democratic, US.

KV1M
03-23-2008, 02:23 PM
Explains how the NeoConartists are proving themselves more Communist than even Khrushchev.
Even explains the "Red State" thing they've got going on!

Damn pinko's!

KB9YCO
03-24-2008, 02:22 AM
We also have those who have an anti-New York bias. Those who seem to feel that if you're from NYC you are trying to tell them "how to live" and therefore have no right to any opinion what-so-ever. This is something I've heard of countless times, when I've expressed my opinions. OTOH, have a gun, then please by all means tell those of us without them how to live.

Yet here we have not only a Commie and a Socialist starting the NeoCon movement, but worse yet, He's A New Yorker!

As is Bill O'Reilly.

As is Rush Limbaugh.

As is Sean Hannity.

As is Ann Coulter.

As is Irving Kristol. (Heck he's a Brooklynite too)

As is William Kristol.



I wouldn't put too much stock into anyone that has an "anti-geographical region" bias since that just shows that they are willing to stereotype and therefore probably lack the ability to discern individuals from regions. Just like the hillbilly stereotypes, just like the Polish stereotypes, etc... etc... etc...........................

W5GA
03-24-2008, 08:00 PM
Even explains the "Red State" thing they've got going on!

Damn pinko's!

First place I ever saw that was on the Lamestream media election coverage. Hardly a paragon of conservative values I would think.

KV1M
03-24-2008, 08:14 PM
First place I ever saw that was on the Lamestream media election coverage. Hardly a paragon of conservative values I would think.


Sarcasm OM, sarcasm! :rolleyes: