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AE6IP
03-21-2008, 03:23 AM
Perhaps it's time to intrude A positive message (http://www.preachingtoday.com/sermons/sermons/audacityofhope.html) into the political junkie.

I'll start with a few paragraphs from a rather positive sermon.

And that is what the audacity to hope will do for you. The apostle Paul said the same thing. “You have troubles? Glory in your trouble. We glory in tribulation.” That’s the horizontal dimension. We glory in tribulation because, he says, “Tribulation works patience. And patience works experience. And experience works hope. (That’s the vertical dimension.) And hope makes us not ashamed.” The vertical dimension balances out what is going on in the horizontal dimension. That is the real story here in the first chapter of 1 Samuel. Not the condition of Hannah’s body, but the condition of Hannah’s soul—her vertical dimension. She had the audacity to keep on hoping and praying when there was no visible sign on the horizontal level that what she was praying for, hoping for, and waiting for would ever be answered in the affirmative.

What Hannah wanted most out of life had been denied to her. Think about that. Yet in spite of that, she kept on hoping. The gloating of Peninnah did not make her bitter. She kept on hoping. When the family made its pilgrimage to the sanctuary at Shiloh, she renewed her petition there, pouring out her heart to God. She may have been barren, but that’s a horizontal dimension. She was fertile in her spirit, her vertical dimension. She prayed and she prayed and she prayed and she kept on praying year after year. With no answer, she kept on praying. She prayed so fervently in this passage that Eli thought she had to be drunk. There was no visible sign on the horizontal level to indicate to Hannah that her praying would ever be answered. Yet, she kept on praying.

And Paul said something about that, too. No visible sign? He says, “Hope is what saves us, for we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen is not hope. For what a man sees, why does he have hope for it? But if we hope for that which we see not (no visible sign), then do we with patience wait for it.”

That’s almost an echo of what the prophet Isaiah said: “They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength.” The vertical dimension balances out what is going on in the horizontal dimension.

There may not be any visible sign of a change in your individual situation, whatever your private hell is. But that’s just the horizontal level. Keep the vertical level intact, like Hannah. You may, like the African slaves, be able to sing, “Over my head I hear music in the air. Over my head I hear music in the air. Over my head I hear music in the air. There must be a God somewhere.”

Keep the vertical dimension intact like Hannah. Have the audacity to hope for that child of yours. Have the audacity to hope for that home of yours. Have the audacity to hope for that church of yours. Whatever it is you’ve been praying for, keep on praying, and you may find, like my grandmother sings, “There’s a bright side somewhere; there is a bright side somewhere. Don’t you rest until you find it, for there is a bright side somewhere.”

W4DFW
03-21-2008, 03:45 AM
"HOPE" is not a plan. Never has been, never will be. HOPE is what people have who can't make do. HOPE is what appeals to people who spend countless dollars trying to win the lotto.

HOPE never got anyone anywhere. BUT, it sure appeals to those who HOPE the Guv'ment will take care of them. :rolleyes:

W3MIV
03-21-2008, 10:35 AM
"HOPE" is not a plan. Never has been, never will be. HOPE is what people have who can't make do. HOPE is what appeals to people who spend countless dollars trying to win the lotto.

HOPE never got anyone anywhere. BUT, it sure appeals to those who HOPE the Guv'ment will take care of them. :rolleyes:

You're full of "it," as usual. Hope got that little train to the top of the hill. It got a hole in that dam. It got you your license.

Hope is the fuel of work.

K3XR
03-21-2008, 11:33 AM
"The audacity of phoniness."

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/03/the_audacity_of_phoniness.html

W3MIV
03-21-2008, 12:08 PM
Isn't that the title of your autobiography?


"The audacity of phoniness."

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/03/the_audacity_of_phoniness.html

WB8MKV
03-21-2008, 02:01 PM
Please spare all of us your drivel......

w4rot
03-21-2008, 02:11 PM
Thank you for that post/link Marty.
Reminds me so much of my father.
Ranks right up there with the
"Walk in Someone Else's Shoes" and the
"Be a Better Man" talks my dad and I shared.
Brings back good memories.
Once again, Thanks.
Terry

kg6amw
03-21-2008, 02:22 PM
More like “The Audacity of Hucksterism”

"Big house and mortgage A friend's money and empty lot The deal done, Chicago winks"

W5JO
03-21-2008, 04:38 PM
You're full of "it," as usual. Hope got that little train to the top of the hill. It got a hole in that dam. It got you your license.

Hope is the fuel of work.

I din't know trains had hope. You must see different trains that I do. Maybe you are confusing hope and determination.

k0ews
03-21-2008, 05:11 PM
Some of our greatest accomplishments as a nation, and our defining moments were ALL about hope. There wasn't a plan yet, only hope. Hope provides the reason to make a plan. Imagine where we would have been had we reacted differently to some of these hopeful words.


"It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." ---Abraham Lincoln

"With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph. So help us God." ---Franklin Delano Roosevelt

"And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!" ---Martin Luther King

"First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth." ---John F. Kennedy

"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" ---Ronald Reagan

WB2WIK
03-21-2008, 05:16 PM
Oh, come on...

Everybody knows the audacity of Hope was Bill Clinton.;)

w8pm
03-21-2008, 06:42 PM
W4DFW: HOPE never got anyone anywhere.

It is truly fortunate that the General Washington and the brave army at Valley Forge didn't share your pessemistic view of the value of hope.

It was the promise, the hope, if you will, of a new nation ruled by laws that brought our founding fathers to inscribe their names on the Declaration of Independence.

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor"

Furthermore, it was the hope of religious freedom that brought the Pilgrims to Plymouth Rock.

And it was hope that gave courage to men such as Martin Luther King, Jr. that someday, maybe not in his lifetime, that all men truly would be equal.

"I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."


I have hope that our county will one day rise above the problems we now face. That we will see a brighter future over the horizon. If we cannot have hope in that, then we are merely hopeless.

K3XR
03-21-2008, 07:14 PM
Perhaps it's time to intrude A positive message (http://www.preachingtoday.com/sermons/sermons/audacityofhope.html) into the political junkie.

I'll start with a few paragraphs from a rather positive sermon.

A positive and a powerful message.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/obamas_anger.html

NL7W
03-21-2008, 09:50 PM
"HOPE" is not a plan. Never has been, never will be. HOPE is what people have who can't make do. HOPE is what appeals to people who spend countless dollars trying to win the lotto.

HOPE never got anyone anywhere. BUT, it sure appeals to those who HOPE the Guv'ment will take care of them. :rolleyes:

ACTIONS, not spoken words or "feelings" of hope, speak louder. What has a particular person done with their life? How have he behaved? Is he/she experienced through doing, or are he an inexperienced bump-on-a-log.

How does he vote? Is he shy and timid, and/or calculating -- marking "present" -- effectively taking no stance or position? What are his core beliefs? Does anyone really know? Where's the leadership? Being decisive on ONE position is far from being a "leader."

Does he speak in flowery generalities, giving no specifics and real-world ideas? Does he actively participate in current, worldly engagements affecting his Nation -- actively doing something -- exploring and uncovering the truths regarding the War on Terror, European and Russian relations, trade with other nations, NAFTA? Does he say one thing to the public, and quite the opposite to diplomats of neighboring countries behind the scenes? Does he site on a committee, waiting for the sifted, downhill flow of second and third-hand information? Is his mind closed to others' thoughts?

Best of luck to your washed-up candidate. He's lacking in so many ways. He admires and allies with divisive bigots. Publicly, he claims to be a uniter; secretly, he espouses and surrounds himself with dividers. He's living on borrowed time... and hope.

W3MIV
03-21-2008, 10:00 PM
Best of luck to your washed-up candidate. He's lacking in so many ways. He admires and allies with divisive bigots. Publicly, he claims to be a uniter; secretly, is he espouses and surrounds himself with dividers. He's living on borrowed time... and hope.

I thought the topic was Obama until I read your post. Clearly you are now referring to McCain. I think you are a bit hard on the old guy.

W5JO
03-22-2008, 12:06 AM
I thought the topic was Obama until I read your post. Clearly you are now referring to McCain. I think you are a bit hard on the old guy.

You are so right, he allies himself with several washed up democratic senators, but at least not too often.

n2ize
03-22-2008, 03:52 AM
ACTIONS, not spoken words or "feelings" of hope, speak louder. What has a particular person done with their life? How have he behaved? Is he/she experienced through doing, or are he an inexperienced bump-on-a-log.

How does he vote? Is he shy and timid, and/or calculating -- marking "present" -- effectively taking no stance or position? What are his core beliefs? Does anyone really know? Where's the leadership? Being decisive on ONE position is far from being a "leader."

Does he speak in flowery generalities, giving no specifics and real-world ideas? Does he actively participate in current, worldly engagements affecting his Nation -- actively doing something -- exploring and uncovering the truths regarding the War on Terror, European and Russian relations, trade with other nations, NAFTA? Does he say one thing to the public, and quite the opposite to diplomats of neighboring countries behind the scenes? Does he site on a committee, waiting for the sifted, downhill flow of second and third-hand information? Is his mind closed to others' thoughts?

Best of luck to your washed-up candidate. He's lacking in so many ways. He admires and allies with divisive bigots. Publicly, he claims to be a uniter; secretly, he espouses and surrounds himself with dividers. He's living on borrowed time... and hope.

Doggerel on doggerel.