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n0ov
03-19-2008, 08:54 PM
K1MAN -- now here's a call we haven't heard in a while.

Man, remember the last time I mentioned him on QRZ I was featured on his website as a Nazi (just for stating we didn't want to hear his jamming)

Anyway, last I heard is his license had expired and he was at war with the FCC over fines and the freeze that eventually happens when you do something Uncle Charley doesn't appreciate.

Anyone heard anymore on this topic? What ever happened to our favorite jammer............... broadcaster?

n4sva
03-19-2008, 09:13 PM
Still shows pending:

K1MAN (https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/attachments/attachmentViewRD.jsp;ATTACHMENTS=PrVdHhQphW72nShJB 6wzT8mRGdNcWGWTDQ5KnfpYp2FvGj6z1m8p!-1055463981!1921158862?applType=search&fileKey=1250927822&attachmentKey=18043022&attachmentInd=applAttach)

VE7DCW
03-19-2008, 09:37 PM
Hmmmm ....Ol' Glenn still owed that $21,000 fine that the U.S. FCC insisted be paid,that was the last I heard.But...how can you put a dollar figure on having good ol' Karol VE7KFM as a co-host in your "broadcasting" endeavours?I'm sure that really helped Baxter's cause :rolleyes:

73

N4VGB
03-19-2008, 10:32 PM
Answer to the question: absolutely nothing.

It's starting to look as though the FCC does not want to go to court with K1MAN? He can legally still operate as long as his application for renewal is held in this "pending" category.

K5WW
04-10-2008, 05:37 AM
K1MAN -- now here's a call we haven't heard in a while.

I hope that doesn't worry you? :)

As someone who got acqainted with K1"BOY" over a decade ago, on a different continent than the North American, I hope he is gone and gone forever!

w2amr
04-10-2008, 08:08 AM
With any luck the sob will end up in prison.

kb2vxa
04-10-2008, 08:27 AM
Who really cares as long as we don't hear his hyellowy sounding broadcashing anymore?

KD6NIG
04-10-2008, 04:22 PM
Its almost like a war of attrition-like they are hoping he will pass away and thus the problem will be solved?

AC4BB
04-10-2008, 04:36 PM
Maybe< his tiger ate him.? Hi:D

WS2L
04-10-2008, 04:45 PM
I checked the FCC ULS and his license expired on 10/17/2005

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=234404

K9STH
04-10-2008, 04:54 PM
The FCC was questioning the validity of renewing K1MAN and, as far as I know, the final decision has not been made as to whether or not to accept the renewal. However, he did apply for renewal before the expiration date and according to FCC regulations he can still operate until a final decision has been made as to the acceptance of the renewal.

Glen, K9STH

KB3LIX
04-10-2008, 05:55 PM
And, it seems to me that the Department of Justice now has to sue him to collect the NAL.
(Could be wrong about that)


It could take the commission years to determine if they will renew his license, and it may go before an administrative law judge because of the unpaid NAL.


It ain't over......Until it's over !

wy6k
04-10-2008, 07:03 PM
Ok, I give. What did this guy do? I've never heard of him (maybe because I've been mostly on the West Coast?).

KC0BUF
04-10-2008, 07:16 PM
Oh, please don't open that up for discussion... do a google search. That should tell you all you need to know.

N6KX
04-10-2008, 08:22 PM
Once the ticket expires, then goes through the two-year waiting period (assuming it applies in this case), K1MAN will return to the pool of unassigned, available callsigns.

After a few years pass, will anyone opt for "K1MAN" as their vanity call? Or accept it as a systematically assigned call?

Or will "K1MAN" go the way of "Adolf," "Attila," "Lucifer," and "Edsel"? ...Tossed onto the junk heap of history - a name without a man. A callsign no one wants, lest it remind others of the tragic individual who this day languishes in stir.

Or will the number of hams who have any recollection of the infamous K1MAN dwindle to a handful? Will it be restored by time itself, much like Richard Nixon seemed to regain his statesman status after the passage of some years, though clearly tarnished for posterity?

Or, lastly, will some unwitting new ham years from now choose it as a vanity call, unaware of its stigma. Then, by bizarre coincidence, he finds himself engaging in on-air conduct prohibited by law, defying the authorities and other hams along the way... driven by some unknown compulsion.

Will it turn out, ultimately, that the callsign has acquired a curse - a hex - that subsumes the soul of whomever comes to hold it?

I guess we'll see... won't we? Bwah-ha-ha-ha-haaaaa!

:rolleyes:

K9STH
04-10-2008, 09:52 PM
KX:

It may be decades before K1MAN actually expires. Since he applied for renewal before it expired he can operate indefinitely until all the legal doings are done.

Glen, K9STH

kc9jwa
04-10-2008, 09:54 PM
Once the ticket expires, then goes through the two-year waiting period (assuming it applies in this case), K1MAN will return to the pool of unassigned, available callsigns.

After a few years pass, will anyone opt for "K1MAN" as their vanity call? Or accept it as a systematically assigned call?

Or will "K1MAN" go the way of "Adolf," "Attila," "Lucifer," and "Edsel"? ...Tossed onto the junk heap of history - a name without a man. A callsign no one wants, lest it remind others of the tragic individual who this day languishes in stir.

Or will the number of hams who have any recollection of the infamous K1MAN dwindle to a handful? Will it be restored by time itself, much like Richard Nixon seemed to regain his statesman status after the passage of some years, though clearly tarnished for posterity?

Or, lastly, will some unwitting new ham years from now choose it as a vanity call, unaware of its stigma. Then, by bizarre coincidence, he finds himself engaging in on-air conduct prohibited by law, defying the authorities and other hams along the way... driven by some unknown compulsion.

Will it turn out, ultimately, that the callsign has acquired a curse - a hex - that subsumes the soul of whomever comes to hold it?

I guess we'll see... won't we? Bwah-ha-ha-ha-haaaaa!

:rolleyes:
Answer to the first question will you take KIMAN as your call, no not good, in one case what if someone mistakins you on here by not knowing who now has it, even if on others sites. Ilike mine i never change it, it fits me well, yes i made names out of my letters so did my friends. If someone gets it like i said and they get in trouble over it, that aint good. Just hope it dies off, if that person was that bad.

N1BHH
04-10-2008, 09:57 PM
It may have expired, but his application is pending: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/ApplicationSearch/applMain.jsp?applID=3052669

wb5ydk
04-10-2008, 09:58 PM
Or, lastly, will some unwitting new ham years from now choose it as a vanity call, unaware of its stigma. Then, by bizarre coincidence, he finds himself engaging in on-air conduct prohibited by law, defying the authorities and other hams along the way... driven by some unknown compulsion.

Will it turn out, ultimately, that the callsign has acquired a curse - a hex - that subsumes the soul of whomever comes to hold it?Sounds a good plot for a Stephen King movie, or a Twilight Zone episode.

kl7aj
04-10-2008, 10:27 PM
K1MAN -- now here's a call we haven't heard in a while.

Man, remember the last time I mentioned him on QRZ I was featured on his website as a Nazi (just for stating we didn't want to hear his jamming)

Anyway, last I heard is his license had expired and he was at war with the FCC over fines and the freeze that eventually happens when you do something Uncle Charley doesn't appreciate.

Anyone heard anymore on this topic? What ever happened to our favorite jammer............... broadcaster?

He's probably joined WA6GVG and W7DVJ in that great flaming pit. RIP

kl7aj
04-10-2008, 10:31 PM
K1MAN -- now here's a call we haven't heard in a while.

Man, remember the last time I mentioned him on QRZ I was featured on his website as a Nazi (just for stating we didn't want to hear his jamming)

Anyway, last I heard is his license had expired and he was at war with the FCC over fines and the freeze that eventually happens when you do something Uncle Charley doesn't appreciate.

Anyone heard anymore on this topic? What ever happened to our favorite jammer............... broadcaster?

http://www.qrz.com/callsign/WA6GVG

Good gravy.....now they have to haunt us from the black hole.

ab8ma
04-10-2008, 10:32 PM
Snip ...
Or will "K1MAN" go the way of "Adolf," "Attila," "Lucifer," and "Edsel"? ...Tossed onto the junk heap of history - :rolleyes:

If I were a betting man, I would put my money on the Edsel. New, of course. :)

kf6rdn
04-10-2008, 10:50 PM
Sounds a good plot for a Stephen King movie, or a Twilight Zone episode.

Yeah, but Glen Ruined it!
:p

AB8RU
04-11-2008, 04:21 AM
Well if he is off the air for now thats ok with me , just let him go do his thing fight the FCC and just maybe we get lucky .


BTW read the stuff he said when I asked a Question got 500 hits on that one ! if you wanna rack up the numbers

need help go to

http://no2k1man.proboards42.com/index.c.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1127780574

gotta love that one :)


He also does not know I am Married and Straight .

AC4BB
04-11-2008, 06:49 AM
Me thinks K1MAN, has painted himself into a Perverbial radio corner. He's aligned himself with some less than stellar compadres.
If, Glenn, had taken the time to properly conduct his "Message Net" I would have been ok with it. I really like the Bulletin service the ARRL & Gateway 160 have they both are really well done. But, K1MAN, decided to go the Push & shove route on his and Especially with all QRM & Lambasting his caused and especially his so called "Talk show." Glenn, got exactly what he needed.:p

WS2L
04-11-2008, 08:30 AM
And, it seems to me that the Department of Justice now has to sue him to collect the NAL.
(Could be wrong about that)
It could take the commission years to determine if they will renew his license, and it may go before an administrative law judge because of the unpaid NAL.
It ain't over......Until it's over !


If they operate like the IRS does they can garnish his wages, retirement and further tax returns. That is if they operate like the IRS.

N9OGL
04-11-2008, 08:36 AM
My main issue with the Baxter thing, is where does the line get drawn between a broadcast and a information bulletin?? From my understanding a Broadcast is a transmission directed to the general public, while a information bulletin is a mesage directed only to the amateur radio operators consisting stolely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur radio service. According to the FCC it is up to the station transmitting the bulletin to determine if it's consisting of material of interest to the amateur radio service -there is no real format rule, and a bulletin can on at any length of time. so where is the line drawn??

I think what the main issue here is - and if I main use the phrase "pissed amateur off" was because Baxter QRMing them and refeering to them as Nazi's or members of the Nazi Party, and sure no one want to be called a name on the radio, but there are some amateur's that can't let it go. Like I've said it's a freaking hobby, do you see people collecting stamps as a hobby hold a grudge because of what some one said. Do you see them getting the person booted out of the hobby because they called them nazi's. Baxter maybe a slimball cancer in the hobby, but holding onto gurdges doesn't help the hobby either....it's time to let it go.

just my two cent worth

Todd N9OGL

Todd N9OGL

N4VGB
04-11-2008, 09:44 AM
His license did expire but his renewal application is still held as pending. As long as the renewal application is held in this staus, he can and occasionally does operate. Either action of denying the renewal application or attempting collection of the NAL fines will result in court action. Which is what K1MAN has openly requested and even dared the FCC to do? Strange case and the only case of civil disobedience that I recall taking so long.

w2amr
04-11-2008, 10:25 AM
My main issue with the Baxter thing, is where does the line get drawn between a broadcast and a information bulletin?? From my understanding a Broadcast is a transmission directed to the general public, while a information bulletin is a mesage directed only to the amateur radio operators consisting stolely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur radio service. According to the FCC it is up to the station transmitting the bulletin to determine if it's consisting of material of interest to the amateur radio service -there is no real format rule, and a bulletin can on at any length of time. so where is the line drawn??

I think what the main issue here is - and if I main use the phrase "pissed amateur off" was because Baxter QRMing them and refeering to them as Nazi's or members of the Nazi Party, and sure no one want to be called a name on the radio, but there are some amateur's that can't let it go. Like I've said it's a freaking hobby, do you see people collecting stamps as a hobby hold a grudge because of what some one said. Do you see them getting the person booted out of the hobby because they called them nazi's. Baxter maybe a slimball cancer in the hobby, but holding onto gurdges doesn't help the hobby either....it's time to let it go.

just my two cent worth

Todd N9OGL

Todd N9OGL
One of his biggest arguments was ,that he was doing basically the same thing as the ARRL with their bulletins and code practice transmissions. The fact that his transmitter was being turned on and off by a timer with nobody there eventually did him in.

K1CJS
04-11-2008, 12:46 PM
Proceedings are still pending--he still can operate, but it looks like he isn't so as to try to get his license renewed. Fat chance. He did the big no-no's and now he wants to make nice. But Uncle Riley and his people aren't going to let it go--I suspect when everything is done and the dust clears, we'll have heard the last of K1MAN and his 'broadcast' ham station.

WA9SVD
04-11-2008, 12:55 PM
Oh, please don't open that up for discussion... do a google search. That should tell you all you need to know.

For those people that really miss the ol' Baxter (pardon the pun) contact Riley. If he gets enough requests, he could put together a CD of "K1MAN's Greatest Hits." I'm sure he has plenty of recordings in his office...:rolleyes:

VE7DCW
04-11-2008, 04:56 PM
For those people that really miss the ol' Baxter (pardon the pun) contact Riley. If he gets enough requests, he could put together a CD of "K1MAN's Greatest Hits." I'm sure he has plenty of recordings in his office...:rolleyes:

...it actually in a strange way was fun to listen to a Baxter "hit"...or an attempt at one.But the continual "Riley Hollingsworth ...is a cheap corrupt politician" routine got old and totally bizarro.It's pretty well time now for the U.S. government to collect that $21,000 that Baxter richly owes and put him out of his misery...it's now time. :rolleyes:

73

N1LAF
04-11-2008, 05:48 PM
My main issue with the Baxter thing, is where does the line get drawn between a broadcast and a information bulletin?? From my understanding a Broadcast is a transmission directed to the general public, while a information bulletin is a mesage directed only to the amateur radio operators consisting stolely of subject matter of direct interest to the amateur radio service. According to the FCC it is up to the station transmitting the bulletin to determine if it's consisting of material of interest to the amateur radio service -there is no real format rule, and a bulletin can on at any length of time. so where is the line drawn??
Todd N9OGL

Again, you nailed the exact point of contention of this whole K1MAN thing, that is still reverberating on 14.275 today. One of the biggest problems isthat the difference of opinion wasn't respected, with some folks, it was either believe it my way or I will come out and attack you. What happened to discussion and exchange of ideas and information? The Part 97 rules forbid one way transmissions except for certain conditions, such as on-air testing of equipment, code practice, and information bulletins. Now, the problem comes with defining what an information bulletin meant. Do we really need everything defined as the letter of the law, or can we use some common sense in how to approach this.

By definition
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcasting)
Broadcasting is the distribution of audio and/or video signals which transmit programs to an audience. The audience may be the general public or a relatively large sub-audience, such as children or young adults.

Bulletin is
(http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861733258/bulletin.html)
1. news broadcast: a short broadcast containing a single item of news
2. announcement: an official announcement

The ARRL voice information bulletin, was short, less than 15 minutes, one a day or once a week, something like that

The K1MAN 'Information Bulletin' went on for an hour and a half, many times a day. The content was more of programming than a bulletin.

It was long, excessive, and seen as broadcasting rather than a bulletin. Yes we can nit pick the definition, but lets apply some common sense to this. Also, some commercial aspects was drawn in, especially the "business opportunity' aspect. I think that was the issue that done him in.

The second problem is that it looked like the 'Information Bulletins' was used as a weapon against the opposition, changing of times, moving frequencies, etc. It became a circus of epic proportions.

If the two groups talked and struck an agreement, say reducing the time from one and a half hours to 15 minutes, maybe this would not have come to this conclusion that we have now.


I think what the main issue here is - and if I main use the phrase "pissed amateur off" was because Baxter QRMing them and refeering to them as Nazi's or members of the Nazi Party, and sure no one want to be called a name on the radio, but there are some amateur's that can't let it go. Like I've said it's a freaking hobby, do you see people collecting stamps as a hobby hold a grudge because of what some one said. Do you see them getting the person booted out of the hobby because they called them nazi's. Baxter maybe a slimball cancer in the hobby, but holding onto gurdges doesn't help the hobby either....it's time to let it go.

just my two cent worth

Todd N9OGL

Todd N9OGL

Don't take this as an attack, but that is good advice you have there, and when you get the urge to say 'Those blankity-blank ham radio operators', think about what you recommend here, put it into practice, its just a hobby, and nothing to get so wound up about. You will have a better time of it, and with other people, and will be more effective. When I here that kind of nonsense, I just tune it out and move on. Like I said, this is not an attack, but pointing out that this is good advice that you gave here.

kl7f
04-11-2008, 08:09 PM
Like I've said it's a freaking hobby, do you see people collecting stamps as a hobby hold a grudge because of what some one said.



Well, actually, yes. Stamps, specifically, I can't speak to, 'cause I'm not a collector, but in the realm of coin collecting, I've seen ferocious multi-year feuds that were sorta fun to watch, from a safe distance and for a brief interval.

Earlier in my online career, I was the guy at the Internet Service Provider in charge of the group that had to read all the complaints about customers and their whacky behavior and decide what (if anything) to do about it.

We had some horrendous online bunfights involving

cat breeding
amateur archaeology
motor racing
coin collecting
photography
...

Some of the online exchanges were eerily reminiscent of the Great Repeater Wars in a particular midwestern metropolis in the early-mid '70s.

The upshot is, wherever the large primates gather and exchange words, sooner or later some of those large primates will exchange unfriendly words, and it's all downhill from there.

N4AUD
04-11-2008, 10:08 PM
I am a stamp collector, been out of it for a while and just recently got back into it.
Yes, people have been killed over stamps. Some stamps are very rare, very collectible and very valuable, some stamps are disputed as forgeries, people commit fraud in selling and trading, etc. Anytime money, reputation or ego is involved there is a potential for violence.

K1CJS
04-11-2008, 10:40 PM
One of his biggest arguments was ,that he was doing basically the same thing as the ARRL with their bulletins and code practice transmissions. The fact that his transmitter was being turned on and off by a timer with nobody there eventually did him in.

If that was all it was keeping him from getting his license back, he would have had it back a long time ago. He went way beyond what the ARRL does, he criticized the government and the FCC, he went and promoted his services and his financial business on the air, not to mention his baloney concerning the International Radio Alliance, or whatever the heck it was. A non-attended automatic transmission from his station was just icing on the cake as far as his FCC record is concerned.

However, if you really meant the thing that actually brought the FCC inspectors to his door, of course you're right.

N9OGL
04-11-2008, 10:54 PM
If that was all it was keeping him from getting his license back, he would have had it back a long time ago. He went way beyond what the ARRL does, he criticized the government and the FCC, he went and promoted his services and his financial business on the air, not to mention his baloney concerning the International Radio Alliance, or whatever the heck it was. A non-attended automatic transmission from his station was just icing on the cake as far as his FCC record is concerned.

However, if you really meant the thing that actually brought the FCC inspectors to his door, of course you're right.


Ummm When did it become against the law to critize the government???

k4kyv
04-12-2008, 03:27 AM
I think what the main issue here is - and if I main use the phrase "pissed amateur off" was because Baxter QRMing them and refeering to them as Nazi's or members of the Nazi Party, and sure no one want to be called a name on the radio, but there are some amateur's that can't let it go.

Another strike against him was that he would solicit monetary contributions over the air, and ran what may have met the criteria for commercial advertising. The FCC tried to inspect his station while it was transmitting on the air and it appeared that no-one was on the premises, so they cited him for operating an amateur station without the presence of a control operator, as required in Part 97. I don't think calling people "names" had anything to do with it.

kn4ds
04-12-2008, 03:47 AM
he criticized the government and the FCC
Umm... so you're suggesting that criticizing either and/or both will subject one to enforcement action?

Or are you saying it's a bad thing to do those things?

K1CJS
04-12-2008, 02:53 PM
You really had to listen to some of Baxter's rants against the government to understand. Perhaps I was a little too broad in my posting. Calling down the government the way he did and then daring them to take action against him isn't the way to stay on their good side. Neither was comparing them to Hitler's Germany in their tactics and methods--all of which he did. Like I said, you really had to hear him spout off when he was upset about things.

kn4ds
04-12-2008, 04:20 PM
You really had to listen to some of Baxter's rants against the government to understand. Perhaps I was a little too broad in my posting. Calling down the government the way he did and then daring them to take action against him isn't the way to stay on their good side. Neither was comparing them to Hitler's Germany in their tactics and methods--all of which he did. Like I said, you really had to hear him spout off when he was upset about things.
Still... this is a problem?

Baxter did many things that were blatant rules violations, and richly deserves the fines imposed, but that is true regardless of what he said about the government.

n9vo
04-12-2008, 08:07 PM
If people are going to discuss the K1MAN issue they really need to educate themselves. Some get on here and act like poor ole Glenn has been mistreated by the ham community and FCC. His history is a long and drawn out process with many many variables. Try a google search for items like: k1man, iarn, francis ona, bougainville, felony complaints, american nazi party, etc. I sure would not want to be associated with any of those type activities. Of course it may not be fact (and certainly could be fiction), but his history would indicate sitting on the fringe to be sure. Some of the current posters used to be big supporters of him. Now they are passing as "nice guys". Spend a little time researching and you will have a better understanding of why things may have turned out as they have. The ham community is just like the general public in that most are good citizens and get along fine with others. A few bad apples can make life tough.

N9OGL
04-12-2008, 11:29 PM
First off I was NEVER a supporter of K1MAN, my main issue in regards to him was in respond to the rules. The Amateur radio rules and regulations are in themselves very vague, and as the courts has stated any rule or law that is vague, chances are it's unconstitutional. Some of the issues amateurs bring up about K1MAN are either frivolous and are irrelevant, for example Amateurs complained because Baxter infringed on peoples copyrights. The FCC has NO JURISDICTION over copyright law, but some amateur believe they do. If the ARRL, Cronkite and the rest want to get him for using material that doesn't belong to him, they need not complain to the FCC, that is a copyright matter has nothing to do with the FCC. Amateur complaint that he called them members of the Nazi party, that is slander and is not really in the jurisdiction of the FCC either. There are amateur's that complaint because he criticized the FCC and the government, Under Section 326 of the Communication Act the FCC can not control the content of ANY radio station, and the FCC can not create or enforce rules that suppress free speech over radio. That rule BTW also apply to amateur radio. What else??

Todd N9OGL

k4kyv
04-12-2008, 11:57 PM
First off I was NEVER a supporter of K1MAN, my main issue in regards to him was in respond to the rules. The Amateur radio rules and regulations are in themselves very vague, and as the courts has stated any rule or law that is vague, chances are it's unconstitutional. Some of the issues amateurs bring up about K1MAN are either frivolous and are irrelevant, for example Amateurs complained because Baxter infringed on peoples copyrights. The FCC has NO JURISDICTION over copyright law, but some amateur believe they do. If the ARRL, Cronkite and the rest want to get him for using material that doesn't belong to him, they need not complain to the FCC, that is a copyright matter has nothing to do with the FCC. Amateur complaint that he called them members of the Nazi party, that is slander and is not really in the jurisdiction of the FCC either. There are amateur's that complaint because he criticized the FCC and the government, Under Section 326 of the Communication Act the FCC can not control the content of ANY radio station, and the FCC can not create or enforce rules that suppress free speech over radio. That rule BTW also apply to amateur radio. What else??
Todd N9OGL

Lately the FCC has been cancelling amateur radio licences over issues that had nothing to do with radio. Convictions on charges of murder, sexual abuse, domestic assault and telephone fraud have been cited as reasons for revoking licences, with the FCC explicitly admitting that the person was a model licensee and had no known infractions against the Communications Act or FCC's regulations.

It seems to me that the FCC is straying beyond its jurisdiction, and I would feel more comfortable if the Commission would stick to enforcing radio laws and regulations and leave the rest to local, state and federal courts.

n9vo
04-13-2008, 12:08 AM
First off I was NEVER a supporter of K1MAN, my main issue in regards to him was in respond to the rules. The Amateur radio rules and regulations are in themselves very vague, and as the courts has stated any rule or law that is vague, chances are it's unconstitutional. Some of the issues amateurs bring up about K1MAN are either frivolous and are irrelevant, for example Amateurs complained because Baxter infringed on peoples copyrights. The FCC has NO JURISDICTION over copyright law, but some amateur believe they do. If the ARRL, Cronkite and the rest want to get him for using material that doesn't belong to him, they need not complain to the FCC, that is a copyright matter has nothing to do with the FCC. Amateur complaint that he called them members of the Nazi party, that is slander and is not really in the jurisdiction of the FCC either. There are amateur's that complaint because he criticized the FCC and the government, Under Section 326 of the Communication Act the FCC can not control the content of ANY radio station, and the FCC can not create or enforce rules that suppress free speech over radio. That rule BTW also apply to amateur radio. What else??

Todd N9OGL


Well I won't copy the article because of the nc17 language used but here is a url where folks can decide for themselves. There are many more out there, this is just but an example from almost three years ago!!!

http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=69013

Beware of the language used. Hopefully listing the url doesn't violate the decency rules of this site.

N9OGL
04-13-2008, 05:10 AM
Lately the FCC has been cancelling amateur radio licences over issues that had nothing to do with radio. Convictions on charges of murder, sexual abuse, domestic assault and telephone fraud have been cited as reasons for revoking licences, with the FCC explicitly admitting that the person was a model licensee and had no known infractions against the Communications Act or FCC's regulations.

It seems to me that the FCC is straying beyond its jurisdiction, and I would feel more comfortable if the Commission would stick to enforcing radio laws and regulations and leave the rest to local, state and federal courts.

They are straying way beyond their jurisdicition, If it would ever go to federal court some of it would probably be thrown out.

Todd N9OGL

N9OGL
04-13-2008, 05:11 AM
Well I won't copy the article because of the nc17 language used but here is a url where folks can decide for themselves. There are many more out there, this is just but an example from almost three years ago!!!

http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=69013

Beware of the language used. Hopefully listing the url doesn't violate the decency rules of this site.

try here too...scroll down to the middle and read some of my comments


http://forums.qrz.com/archive/index.php/t-73535.html

AC4BB
04-13-2008, 06:24 AM
Lately the FCC has been cancelling amateur radio licences over issues that had nothing to do with radio. Convictions on charges of murder, sexual abuse, domestic assault and telephone fraud have been cited as reasons for revoking licences, with the FCC explicitly admitting that the person was a model licensee and had no known infractions against the Communications Act or FCC's regulations.

It seems to me that the FCC is straying beyond its jurisdiction, and I would feel more comfortable if the Commission would stick to enforcing radio laws and regulations and leave the rest to local, state and federal courts.

I agree with FCC's decision to pull licenses of people with Questionable character flaws. Hopefully, someday, Amateur radio will be better off for their decision. Ask yourself this. Wouldn't you rather have all the criminals and Phedophiles removed from ham radio.? I would. If, you lose your right to vote due to a criminal conviction then Why, not your priviledge to use amateur radio also.?

N8GAV
04-13-2008, 02:34 PM
Some times I laugh, and some times I just shake my head. I am no lawyer but I do understand the rules as put forth by the FCC and working in the the broadcast feild know the difference between "The Pubiic Trust" which is broadcasting and "To Promote the art and science of radio communications" which is by the way is Amateur Radio. Backstaber wanted both, as do a lot of people who see no defference between the two. First off you recieved a GRANT by showing some skills through testing that give you the right to be granted an amateur radio license. In broadcasting there is no testing, but you must show that you provide a pubilc service to your community and or listening audience. That's where the line gets thin. Broadcasters show this by having a "Public File" that the pubilc may ask to see at any time during regular business hours, and commit on when when the stations license is up for renewal. For this a broadcaster may charge a fee for avertising to keep the pubilc informed and entertained.( There is more to it but some won't even get this) I offten hear "Well when you handle a message on a traffic net that go's to a non-ham that is a public service". Oh yes it is and that is promoting the art and science OF Radio Communications and you do it for free as good will to the public. I never heard Baxter say anything that I could not get from the ARRL,FCC, etc.etc. His little group that he always wanted to promote on the air was a for profit for him althrough he claimed it was a 501C Non- Profit Org. I will bet a lot of money went into HIS pocket.I wonder if that has ever been checked out? Maybe thats where the $21,000 will come from when he has to pay it. Oh well I think most of you get the message if not then duck when the jet flys by

K1CJS
04-13-2008, 04:42 PM
Lately the FCC has been cancelling amateur radio licences over issues that had nothing to do with radio. Convictions on charges of murder, sexual abuse, domestic assault and telephone fraud have been cited as reasons for revoking licences, with the FCC explicitly admitting that the person was a model licensee and had no known infractions against the Communications Act or FCC's regulations.

It seems to me that the FCC is straying beyond its jurisdiction, and I would feel more comfortable if the Commission would stick to enforcing radio laws and regulations and leave the rest to local, state and federal courts.

And how are they straying beyond their jurisdiction? They are applying 'character qualifications' to the person holding an amateur license--and other radio licenses as well. If my son or daughter were involved with ham radio, I wouldn't want them talking to a convicted child molester. Would you want your kids doing that? I somehow doubt it.

They're jurisdiction is radio licensing. They're not putting the people in jail or collecting fines--they're not even imposing fines. They're regulating what they're supposed to regulate.

K3VR
04-14-2008, 11:06 PM
As far as I know, Baxter hasn't paid his $21,000 fine. That means the US Attorney for the District of Maine has to sue him to collect it.

The FCC is probably waiting for the outcome of the trial to decide on his renewal application. They're probably also watching his on-air behavior.

I heard a station a few times identifying as K1MAN on 3.890 last summer. It sounded like it was the usual ARRL and Newsline stuff, minus the controversial editorials and the issues related to the Forfeiture. The signal was very weak.

Baxter seems to be behaving himself. The FCC and US Attorney are in no hurry. It's probably in Baxter's best interest to keep a low profile and it's certainly been nice to have a large chunk of the AM window clear for ongoing qsos. What's not to like?

:)

AC4BB
04-15-2008, 06:37 AM
I have gotten (2) E-mails from K1MAN today. He's sent them to several people who disagree with his views lately:D

K3VR
04-17-2008, 05:11 PM
He seems to be sending out quite a few emails to different folks. I thought it was particularly interesting that one email I received said, "K1MAN deplores the antics of VE7KFM."

Kind of confusing though, because K1MAN and VE7KFM did the show together, more than once, as I recall.

Presumably, Baxter invited KFM's participation. So the statement "K1MAN deplores the antics of VE7KFM" seems rather confusing. Maybe Baxter will resume his show and clarify that point for us.

kb2vxa
04-17-2008, 06:43 PM
OU812? He's picked up our e-mail addresses from some leaky forum software I suppose, you guys are in the header of mine. Do I have to tell you he's now on the blocked list?

I was keeping mum but since you let the cat out of the bag, oh well. Here's an interesting notion, QRZ is the only forum I have posted anything about him in years and now that I had a few pages back, WHAMMO. Things that make you go hmmm.

K1KW
04-18-2008, 02:14 AM
Bottom line is that this K1MAN menace is off the air, probably for good.

He is still in limbo, who knows what's next. I bet that if he starts his crap up again, that $21,000 NAL will be collected quickly and he will find himself in front of an ALJ just as fast.

He is obviously laying low, very afraid to get back on the air again.

N9OGL
04-18-2008, 04:43 PM
To: N9OGL

From Glenn Baxter, K1MAN

18 April 2008



Todd,



Thank you for your interest and comments about K1MAN. There is major ignorance out there about this matter which I wish to address here. Since I naver NEVER posted on QRZ and since I am not allowed to anyway (the latter seems a bit un American to me!), would you please post the following for me as, perhaps, something you received from me and disagree with? Thanks.



All K1MAN transmissions have been legal, and this is why the FCC cannot stop them without changing Part 97 rules.



The FCC can issue their silly (uncollectible) fines all they want and delay (almost three years now) renewing K1MAN's license as long as they want, but they cannot stop K1MAN's on the air operations because K1MAN is licensed (even while a renewal application is pending), and are legal, and they know it, and they are afraid to go to court and be made fools of.



K1MAN "broadcasts" are all legal. Most hams forget to look at the FCC definition (as

opposed to a dictionary definition) of "broadcast," which is a transmission intended for the general public. Don't like it? Petition the FCC to change the rules.



Transmissions must be of direct interest to the Amateur Radio Service, which would include everything ever transmitted by K1MAN. There is no time limit or other content limit on amateur transmissions except a ban on profanity. You can call Riley a bum or you can call Glenn a bum if you wish. You can be called a member of the "Amateur Nazi Party (a ficticious joke to make a point, or course)." K1MAN has never transmitted profanity.



You can publish a schedule and then come on without listening as both K1MAN and W1AW have done legally for years. If you don't like it, petition the FCC to change the rules. This is good engineering practice in the opinion of both K1MAN and W1AW. Bad engineering practice would be to put one way W1AW or K1MAN transmissions on different frequencies from day to day.



K1MAN used timers to start the transmissions exactly on time (for 17 years), as is also done now by W1AW. Current K1MAN policy is to check the band on or near 14.275 and come on a clear spot sometime in the morning and run all day and then do the same thing sometime in the evening on or near 3.890 and then run all night. This solves the QRM complaint. The odd times makes it more difficult for intentional jammers of the show.



The closest that K1MAN comes to pecuniary interest is to announce (publish) that the transmitting schedule can be found at www.K1MAN.com. This is far less commercial than "QST, QST, QST, this is W1AW in Newington Connecticut." QST, of course, is their magazine for sale. Then you have to buy an ARRL handbook to check the accuracy of your code practice! K1MAN is also less commercial than talking you in to a ham fest where you then pay to be admitted. K1MAN has never solicited money on the air.



K1MAN is legally remote controlled. The most recent inspection of K1MAN by three FCC engineers from the Boston office verified this 100%. In a previous attempt by the FCC to inspect K1MAN, they went to the unattended transmitter site and did not bother to telephone to ask where the remote control point was on that day. The FCC lids in Washington , of course, reported some of the latter and none of the former.



IARN (the International Amateur Radio Network) is not baloney. IARN was officially

recognized by both the State of Maine legislature and Vermont Academy for emergency traffic work world wide. These honors, of course, were never mentioned in QST.



K1MAN deplores the antics of VE7KFM.



The FCC officially equated K1MAN to W1AW in an FCC letter dated 2 November 1989 from FCC Special Services Division Chief Robert H. McNamara:



"….We are familiar with the nature of the transmissions by K1MAN and find that they fall in the same category as transmissions by amateur station W1AW….."



The Supreme Court has ruled that this letter by the FCC constitutes the rule by res judicata and that nothing written by Riley Hollingsworth can change it. The only way around this is for the FCC to change the Part 97 rules themselves.



K1MAN has been legally "broadcasting" for 20 years. Of course there have been a few

technical errors from time to time. A missed ID, a tape jam, the access of a wrong tape by a newly installed cassette system, perhaps. There is no rule saying you must monitor your own on the air signal. If something goes wrong at K1MAN, the phone usually rings immediately. Worst case is a card from an ARRL Official Observer or a Notice of Violation from an FCC Engineer in charge. You don't wait several years and then revoke someone's license over minor technical errors!



Opinions and editorials. Some say this is bad. I say it is good to have robust opinions expressed over amateur radio.



Ya know, if you don't like it, turn the dial or hit the off switch!



IN SUMMARY



Riley Hollingsworth runs a very sloppy operation. Regarding K1MAN, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He knows it. If he or ARRL or my detractors could do something about K1MAN they would, in a heartbeat. It only takes 51% to be elected President. To the other 49%, or whatever the number is, that don't like K1MAN for whatever reasons, well, welcome to America ! Vote with your hands and turn that great big dial on your radio! 73 and GL de K1MAN.

kb2vxa
04-18-2008, 05:04 PM
Now was that REALLY necessary?

VE7DCW
04-18-2008, 05:07 PM
...and with all that rhetoric that Baxter has spewed...all is now right with the world... only one thing you can say to Baxter... "yeah yeah" :rolleyes:

73

KB3LIX
04-18-2008, 05:41 PM
WOW......Another LOAD of MAINE HORSE HOCKEY floats to the surface of the pond.
And, it is just that HORSE HOCKEY !!!!!

Pay your fine Baxter !!!!

K1CJS
04-18-2008, 06:58 PM
Oh, how nice he now tried to be. Oh, how wonderful! Oh, joy!

K1MAN broke the law, unattended transmitters that are on the air hours on end, pushing his business interests and other things, and a continuing list of regulation violations is why Baxter won't get his renewal. Not even if the fine is paid, which it seems he is unlikely to do.

While the legal proceedings drag on, the FCC is just waiting for another bunch of crap to surface and show, and K1MAN will join the list of people who USED TO BE ham radio operators. Bye-bye K1MAN, it HASN"T been nice knowing you.

K3VR
04-18-2008, 07:33 PM
Baxter's $21,000 FCC Forfeiture states: (http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2006/DA-06-663A1.html)

"The noted violations of the Rules involve interference with the ongoing communications of other Amateur radio stations, failure to exercise station control, transmission of communications in which Baxter had a pecuniary interest, and transmission of communications that constituted impermissible broadcasting."

The email Todd published states:

"All K1MAN transmissions have been legal. Transmissions must be of direct interest to the Amateur Radio Service, which would include everything ever transmitted by K1MAN."

Comment: In contrast, the FCC says the long broadcast about Baxter's consulting firm was not in the amateur interest, and therefore not legal.

"K1MAN has never transmitted profanity."

Comment: Actually, the FCC didn't call him on it, but I remember the F word being transmitted for about a week. It was on one of the phone machine messages. Not sure if that's considered profane, indecent, or obscene? In general though, Baxter's bulletin was not what most people would call obscene, indecent, or profane.

"You can publish a schedule and then come on without listening as both K1MAN and W1AW have done legally for years."

Comment: Disagree. Incidental interference occurs all the time when one station can't hear another station. Interference that happens because of an intentional failure to listen is a crime of deliberate disregard. That's why the FCC said Baxter engaged in intentional interference.

"The closest that K1MAN comes to pecuniary interest is to announce (publish) that the transmitting schedule can be found at his website."

Comment: I think facilitating the business practices of AARA, IARN, and Baxter Associates might be the real issue, but we may have to attend the trial to see how that plays out.

"K1MAN is legally remote controlled."

Comment: Absolutely true! I often operate by remote myself. Although... when a tape malfunctions and an amateur lets the tape run for an hour without fixing it, then, his station's out of control, obviously, and that would probably give rise to a complaint of poor amateur practice and/or poor engineering... and a $21,000 Forfeiture.

"K1MAN deplores the antics of VE7KFM."

Comment: Bravo for that! I think every decent human being echoes the sentiment. I do have a question. Why did Baxter invite KFM to be his co-host in the first place? I suspect Baxter may not have realized who he was dealing with at the time, so I'll just applaud that particular announcement and move on.

"You don't wait several years and then revoke someone's license over minor technical errors!"

Comment: Agreed again. Thank goodnesss no one's planning to revoke Baxter's license over minor technical errors.

"Ya know, if you don't like it, turn the dial or hit the off switch!"

Comment: Agreed again! I believe Riley said much the same thing at Dayton last year. In broader terms, I think he said: 'report the violation, that's part of your self-policing function, then turn the big knob, because you can't fix stupid' or similar words to that effect.

"Riley Hollingsworth runs a very sloppy operation. Regarding K1MAN, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He knows it."

Comment: Amusing and reminiscent of other statements issed from Down East, but the Forfeiture's been affirmed, so Riley's part is finished until the renewal is acted on, and that's a separate issue. Presumably the US Attorney will bring the FCC's evidence to trial whenever they get around to it. I doubt Riley will be there, except, perhaps, as a spectator.

I think those are the major points in the email, and it's been an interesting case to watch. Baxter can legally operate until these issues are settled in court. The preceding are simply my opinions... so, no strategic lawsuits against public participation...please.

N8GAV
04-18-2008, 08:53 PM
I wonder if Backstaber sent a copy of his little manfisto here to Leo Myerson,Walter Cronkite and the few outher well known hams he tried to scam?

VE7DCW
04-18-2008, 09:08 PM
I always wondered if Baxter uses violations of section 333 and 501 of the 1934 communications act(as ammended).... in normal every day in-passing conversations with people on the street :rolleyes: no,he's not crazy.... :D

73

n9vo
04-18-2008, 09:16 PM
It is interesting who he chose to be his spokesperson!!!!!!

N8GAV
04-18-2008, 09:20 PM
It is interesting who he chose to be his spokesperson!!!!!!

Hey is Todd a lawyer now?

K3VR
04-18-2008, 11:26 PM
It's pretty clear those anime pics are not illegal. Not my taste, but not illegal. I didn't hear anything about the FBI. What happened there Todd?

w4nti
04-18-2008, 11:33 PM
In the military we called them "Latrine Lawyers".

Dan/W4NTI

N9OGL
04-18-2008, 11:36 PM
It's pretty clear those anime pics are not illegal. Not my taste, but not illegal. I didn't hear anything about the FBI. What happened there Todd?

Brian,

I really can't say at this time, it's under investigation. All I can say we sat and talked for about half hour to an hour and that's it.

Todd N9OGL

w4nti
04-18-2008, 11:38 PM
It's pretty clear those anime pics are not illegal. Not my taste, but not illegal. I didn't hear anything about the FBI. What happened there Todd?

Me either.....this was a real photo of a real child. A ham, I won't put the call out or discuss it in much detail. Other than to say he made some serious accusations, cussed up a blue streak, said he was coming back to HF to "get some folks". Whatever that means.

The picture disappeared in less than a half hour. Someone must not of liked it much.

You know since Todd is such a latrine lawyer and all you would think he would be a bit more careful of what he says in print, eh?

Enough of that....lets get back to the other loser, K1MAN.

Dan/W4NTI

K3VR
04-18-2008, 11:49 PM
Ok Todd, wasn't sure if we were talking about anime or the kid in Wisconsin where the FBI was concerned. As far as I can tell, the anime isn't illegal, so I guess the FBI visit pertained to the picture of the boy.

Understand you want to keep it quiet until it's settled. People get very nervous when kids are attacked, especially when obscenities, sexual innuendo, and real pics are involved. The FBI agents were probably just trying to assess if you were making a threat and if you had any immediate plans to hurt the boy. They probably won't be back as long as you don't threaten anyone or post pics of real kids in the future.

How about Omega One, any plans to get that 13556 station on the air? I never was able to copy you but we're too close except for backscatter and occasional Sporadic E.

W3HR
04-19-2008, 12:06 AM
This is far less commercial than "QST, QST, QST, this is W1AW in Newington Connecticut." QST, of course, is their magazine for sale.

Come, now. That's really a stretch.

N9OGL
04-19-2008, 12:08 AM
Ok Todd, wasn't sure if we were talking about anime or the kid in Wisconsin where the FBI was concerned. As far as I can tell, the anime isn't illegal, so I guess the FBI visit pertained to the picture of the boy.

Understand you want to keep it quiet until it's settled. People get very nervous when kids are attacked, especially when obscenities, sexual innuendo, and real pics are involved. The FBI agents were probably just trying to assess if you were making a threat and if you had any immediate plans to hurt the boy. They probably won't be back as long as you don't threaten anyone or post pics of real kids in the future.

How about Omega One, any plans to get that 13556 station on the air? I never was able to copy you but we're too close except for backscatter and occasional Sporadic E.

All I will say is it wasn't about the anime or the kid from Wisconsin, it was about something whole different.

Todd N9OGL

N9OGL
04-19-2008, 12:23 AM
Some of the things I think the FCC needs to clarify in regards to information bulletins and other stuff.

1. A better definition of what a information bulletin is and what a broadcast is. There is a huge Grey area of what an information bulletin is and what a broadcast is. For a number of years amateur tried to get the FCC to clarify the rule, even W5YI tried. A clarification of how long a information bulletin can run and a clarification on posting schedules in regards to users rights.

2. Pecuniary Interest: A better definition need to put into place. pecuniary interest or Commercial speech as it is really call has the same first amendment rights as regular non commercial speech, but unlike non-commercial speech it can be regulated. Pecuniary Interest or commercial speech can be regulated but as the courts has stated it can not be banned, amateur rules need to reflect what the courts stated.

3. Content Neutrality: Unlike what many amateurs think the FCC can not control the content of any station, nor is the FCC allowed to propagate or fix any rule that suppresses free speech via radio (47 CFR 326) this has also been reflected in a number of court cases. The FCC need to remove the content based rules in the amateur radio service, or one of these days the courts may change them. The FCC rules are suppose to be of a technical aspect and not content one, and that how it should be.

Todd N9OGL

w4nti
04-19-2008, 12:25 AM
All I will say is it wasn't about the anime or the kid from Wisconsin, it was about something whole different.

Todd N9OGL

Wow....who would of thunk it......a latrine lawyer in trouble for running his mouth. Amazing.

You know that 13556 frequency is in a memory bank of mine with the TX locked of course. And I have never heard Toad on it. Do you think it was another case of mouth over ridding brain?

Sure hope not, I enjoy listening to the pirate stations. Not that I would ever get into actually DOING it. But I have NO Problem as long as they stay out of the ham bands. I guess I'm just old fashioned, eh?

Dan/W4NTI

K3VR
04-19-2008, 12:41 AM
Not anime, not the kid in Wisconsin... that still doesn't narrow it down much...

What would the FBI care about... Threats to shut down the FCC mail system... Stealing wi-fi... Downloading copyrighted items via bit torrent... Stalking FCC personnel and/or other hams... I know you're not downloading kiddy porn... Mailing white powder to Canada when you were on your cruise...

Lots of possibilities. I'm thinking, it might be better just to tell everyone what's up, because the speculation online will be probably worse than the actual reason FBI visited you! You know how the rumor mill churns.

N9OGL
04-19-2008, 12:52 AM
I was told by the FBI to say nothing, It's under investigation.

w4nti
04-19-2008, 12:53 AM
Not anime, not the kid in Wisconsin... that still doesn't narrow it down much...

What would the FBI care about... Threats to shut down the FCC mail system... Stealing wi-fi... Downloading copyrighted items via bit torrent... Stalking FCC personnel and/or other hams... I know you're not downloading kiddy porn... Mailing white powder to Canada when you were on your cruise...

Lots of possibilities. I'm thinking, it might be better just to tell everyone what's up, because the speculation online will be probably worse than the actual reason FBI visited you! You know how the rumor mill churns.

Maybe it is just me, but it seems there is a problem with comprehension here. I know I would'nt be discussing on a open forum the fact that the FBI visited me. I mean this is pretty serious stuff, especially considering the fact that the country is at WAR and the Patriot Act is controlling things. Kinda like marshall law , but not quite.

I have lived my life doing my best to keep Uncle Sam out of my business. But considering my military time and my FCC license that is kinda tough.. hi,.

Heck the Feds got my particulars and identification way back to my first Secret Crypto clearance. Boy I bet my neighbors just loved their visits to check me out as a teen ager....BWAHAHAHAHAH.

Whatever....

Well Todd...you keep it up there fella....Do you like Wheat bread with the water?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Dan/W4NTI

N8GAV
04-19-2008, 01:15 AM
3. Content Neutrality: Unlike what many amateurs think the FCC can not control the content of any station, nor is the FCC allowed to propagate or fix any rule that suppresses free speech via radio (47 CFR 326) this has also been reflected in a number of court cases. The FCC need to remove the content based rules in the amateur radio service, or one of these days the courts may change them. The FCC rules are suppose to be of a technical aspect and not content one, and that how it should be.

Todd N9OGL

Todd, every court case you seem to always bring up has NOTHING to do with the Amateur Radio Service. Every case I have seen you name has to do with broadcasting. Look up the Brinkley Law ii US vs John Brinkley (MD) att el US 3rd curcit southen dist. 1942. This will keep you busy for awhile.

K3VR
04-19-2008, 01:29 AM
I was told by the FBI to say nothing, It's under investigation.

I understand. Probably a wise decision... I'm kind of surprised though. Usually you invoke the 1st Amendment and Free Speech. I mean, a couple of FBI agents, or an FBI agent and a Postal Inspector can't really tell you what to do, can they?

AB8RU
04-19-2008, 01:49 AM
look at it this way they will be in court til the Cows come home, I think Glen ought to operate 11 Meters is the only service he may operate legally and if he broadcasts his radio show maybe the response will be welll I am not publishing comments except he may have the local natives mad !


and the funny thing in Grand Rapids a Glen X is also a bad word on 11 Meters coincendental hunh ? and he last is not Baxter !

:p

K3VR
04-19-2008, 02:05 AM
CLICK HERE FOR SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT IS TO BE DONE (http://www.treventerprise.com/Laughter.JPG) - with apologies to the late Comrade Vladimir Ilich.

NA4BH
04-19-2008, 02:15 AM
Well Todd, when things get too rough just do what I do. Get some friends and go to the beach. Time for a KEGGER.......

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/104500327_ac9d66bd06.jpg?v=0

N9OGL
04-19-2008, 02:16 AM
Todd, every court case you seem to always bring up has NOTHING to do with the Amateur Radio Service. Every case I have seen you name has to do with broadcasting. Look up the Brinkley Law ii US vs John Brinkley (MD) att el US 3rd curcit southen dist. 1942. This will keep you busy for awhile.

Section 326 applies not only to broadcast, but to ALL radio services. Here is a little too...Amateur's aren't broadcasters, in fact they are defined as a point to point communication, and unlike broadcaster who are assigned one frequency, amateurs have a wider arrangement of frequencies, and thereby, Amateurs have more free speech, then broadcaster, because amateur do not have to obligate the public interest like broadcaster do.

N9OGL

N9OGL
04-19-2008, 02:20 AM
I understand. Probably a wise decision... I'm kind of surprised though. Usually you invoke the 1st Amendment and Free Speech. I mean, a couple of FBI agents, or an FBI agent and a Postal Inspector can't really tell you what to do, can they?

Accually, we had a pretty nice talk, we talk about what we talked about, and then I showed them some of my art, which they though some of it was good. all and all it was pretty nice to talk to them.... :)


N9OGL

VE7DCW
04-19-2008, 02:29 AM
Well Todd, when things get too rough just do what I do. Get some friends and go to the beach. Time for a KEGGER.......

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/40/104500327_ac9d66bd06.jpg?v=0

Bob has the right idea.... uh...should'nt there be more than one keg?? :D

73

N9OGL
04-19-2008, 02:37 AM
Bob has the right idea.... uh...should'nt there be more than one keg?? :D

73


Unfortunately I don't drink :(

Todd N9OGL

K3VR
04-19-2008, 03:00 AM
Accually, we had a pretty nice talk, we talk about what we talked about, and then I showed them some of my art, which they though some of it was good. all and all it was pretty nice to talk to them.... :)


N9OGL

Well that's nice then Todd. I had the impression it was an unpleasant visit because of your blog post(s) titled "LET THE WAR BEGIN!"

And this part...

"FBI THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME HOW ARE TAXS DOLLAR IS WASTED BY SUPRESSING FREE SPEECH.... BLANK YOU!!!"

You created the same thread 8 times with the same heading.

Was it such a nice visit that you just kind of lost track of what you really meant to say?

NA4BH
04-19-2008, 03:04 AM
Do you think he could have mis-spoke? Maybe he was thinking about a Bosnia trip, ducking bullets you know.

VE7DCW
04-19-2008, 03:11 AM
Do you think he could have mis-spoke? Maybe he was thinking about a Bosnia trip, ducking bullets you know.

I'd miss my mother-in-law as well..... now i'm going to buy a quality scope for the rifle! :D

73

N9OGL
04-19-2008, 03:17 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I thought this thread was about K1MAN.... Guess I was wrong...Back to LAH!

Todd N9OGL

K3VR
04-19-2008, 04:23 AM
Actually Todd, your report about your FBI visit is FAR more interesting than the K1MAN case, or anything going on in Canada. In Baxter's case nothing's changed. The Forfeiture stands, he still owes the government $21K, and he's still claiming he's innocent. Nothing new there.

Nothing new in Canada either. Same windbag, same spiel, same tired lies. The pirates, bootleggers, callsign hijackers come and go. Naive trolls and the tinfoil hat brigade are urged to file false reports and post lies here and there. Nothing new at all.

But an FBI visit... that's big news Todd. Hope you can tell us what it's all about someday soon. At least before it hits the newspaper, or the Enforcement Log.

I believe I'll hit the sheets. G'nite all!

NA4BH
04-19-2008, 04:50 AM
About how long does it take for this type stuff to become public? Just wondering.......

VE7DCW
04-19-2008, 06:01 AM
Actually...i'd love to see it in the enforcement log....it has a nice sound of finality to it,does'nt it?? :D

73

N9OGL
04-19-2008, 06:29 AM
Actually Todd, your report about your FBI visit is FAR more interesting than the K1MAN case, or anything going on in Canada. In Baxter's case nothing's changed. The Forfeiture stands, he still owes the government $21K, and he's still claiming he's innocent. Nothing new there.

Nothing new in Canada either. Same windbag, same spiel, same tired lies. The pirates, bootleggers, callsign hijackers come and go. Naive trolls and the tinfoil hat brigade are urged to file false reports and post lies here and there. Nothing new at all.

But an FBI visit... that's big news Todd. Hope you can tell us what it's all about someday soon. At least before it hits the newspaper, or the Enforcement Log.

I believe I'll hit the sheets. G'nite all!

It isn't going to hit the newspaper or the enforcement log....whatever

Todd N9OGL

n9vo
04-20-2008, 12:06 AM
Oh but surely it will hit the headlines. Especially after you have declared war as indicated on your blog............

N9OGL
04-20-2008, 05:29 AM
Well since some amateur radio operators what to cut off my access point on wi-fi to the web, then I guess I will be going back to radio, and then there WILL BE A WAR....and the FCC nor the FBI will be able to stop it.

Todd N9OGL

VE7DCW
04-20-2008, 05:40 AM
Todd .... just a suggestion...declaring war and then saying no one,not even the FCC,FBI ,ATF, NSA,... **add 3 letter law enforcement agency of your choice** will stop you,would most likely get you more attention than you could've ever imagine.Enforcement log?? nope....i'll change it,i'll look for the take down news in the newspaper :rolleyes:

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NA4BH
04-20-2008, 05:43 AM
Well since some amateur radio operators what to cut off my access point on wi-fi to the web, then I guess I will be going back to radio, and then there WILL BE A WAR....and the FCC nor the FBI will be able to stop it.

Todd N9OGL

If they pre-sell tickets for this, I want to be on the list....... :D :D

VE7DCW
04-20-2008, 05:45 AM
If they pre-sell tickets for this, I want to be on the list....... :D :D

Bob...I can hardly wait for the movie to come out... :D

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N9OGL
04-20-2008, 06:36 AM
They keep knocking me off the web, and killing my access points, then I will go back to radio, and they will not able to stop me....but whatever :)

g3hge
04-20-2008, 12:20 PM
We had the Great Plague in London many moons ago . Nasty at the time but now a distant memory . It was caused by rats !

VE7DCW
04-20-2008, 04:38 PM
It's a good thing that rats can't read or write...producing and sending out "Felony complaint Affadavits" is'nt an activity one would associate with rats :D

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N8GAV
04-20-2008, 04:43 PM
Well since some amateur radio operators what to cut off my access point on wi-fi to the web, then I guess I will be going back to radio, and then there WILL BE A WAR....and the FCC nor the FBI will be able to stop it.

Todd N9OGL

They keep knocking me off the web, and killing my access points, then I will go back to radio, and they will not able to stop me....but whatever :)

And Todd wonders why he is treated like a joke? I hope you do Todd for someone who is 39-40yrs old going on 15 maybe a little smack up long your head will make you grow up. Time will tell how smart you are and who will stand by you. I bet Glenn Backstaber the Canaduh Klown, and Billy Crowell are just have a good time letting you do their biddings for them and having a BIG laugh for the joke is on you. Keep up the good work :rolleyes:

K3VR
04-20-2008, 05:55 PM
Well since some amateur radio operators what to cut off my access point on wi-fi to the web, then I guess I will be going back to radio, and then there WILL BE A WAR....and the FCC nor the FBI will be able to stop it.

Todd N9OGL

Come on Todd, let's be reasonable. How do you know amateurs are attacking your wi-fi access point... It would take someone with extensive knowledge of 802.11 WLAN protocol to do that, wouldn't it?

And another thing, how can you have an on-air war? Who would you fight with? How would you conduct your war? What kind of hardware would you bring to your war? Would a dipole and 100 watts cut it?

I don't think the FCC and FBI want to prevent you from transmitting or using your computer. They probably just want to see you follow part 97 and not threaten anyone. You can do that, right?

K8MHZ
04-21-2008, 01:48 AM
They keep knocking me off the web, and killing my access points, then I will go back to radio, and they will not able to stop me....but whatever :)

Don't bet the farm on it unless you move to Kanaduh. And don't let the door hit you on the way out. Maybe you can shack up with Karol....but sleep with one eye open, if you know what I mean. I am under the impression he has taken a shinin' to you. You know, a few beers, some imported incense, soft music and all you will have to deal with is hating yourself in the morning.

VE7DCW
04-21-2008, 02:55 AM
Todd...if I might say,to "declare war" because you've been denied wi-fi internet access "by those ham operators" is bordering on the edge of absolute bizarro!I'd take a deep breath....now...i'd let it out....breath again..now you should be able to clearly, logically figure out what the problem is without a cuckoo declaration of war against something that perhaps is an oversight on your part...breath deep again Todd....let it out.....:rolleyes:

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n4mxz
04-21-2008, 06:43 AM
They keep knocking me off the web, and killing my access points, then I will go back to radio, and they will not able to stop me....but whatever :)

Who are "they", ( I sure hope you don't mean "them"! :eek:) and how are "they" doing this? :confused:
Maybe you could solicit friends, neighbors, and interested parties to fill out a "Formal Felony Complaint Form" like Glenny used to do when he was QRMing 75m. ;)

I am sorry N9OGL, but you sound like a K1MAN lap-puppy.
Paranoid rhetorical nonsense interspersed with what appears to be substantial hyperbole at best, and outright fabrication at worst. :D

w3wn
04-21-2008, 01:37 PM
They keep knocking me off the web, and killing my access points, then I will go back to radio, and they will not able to stop me....but whatever :)
Who's "they" ??

K3VR
04-21-2008, 02:51 PM
Let's get our facts straight. Was it them (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1482989312/tt0047573?slideshow=1) or they (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AOX0F.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)?

KD6NIG
04-21-2008, 03:21 PM
WAR....huuh...thats right. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!

(With apologies to Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan of "Rush hour" fame)

K3VR
04-21-2008, 03:31 PM
WAR....huuh...thats right. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!

(With apologies to Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan of "Rush hour" fame)


That was funny! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-bA9FYB8HY)

n8yx
04-21-2008, 03:39 PM
Step away from this place for a week or two and it do get interesting...fer sure...

VE7DCW
04-21-2008, 04:44 PM
Let's get our facts straight. Was it them (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1482989312/tt0047573?slideshow=1) or they (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AOX0F.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)?

"Them"....were giant ants that got super- sized by nuke testing in Nevada...they ended up in California.I can see how the California tin foil paranoia thing got so out of control.But Todd is in the state of Illinois...I really don't see the connection... :D

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N8GAV
04-21-2008, 04:52 PM
"Them"....were giant ants that got super- sized by nuke testing in Nevada...they ended up in California.I can see how the California tin foil paranoia thing got so out of control.But Todd is in the state of Illinois...I really don't see the connection... :D

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Gerry I do, Route 66 :D

VE7DCW
04-21-2008, 05:06 PM
Gerry I do, Route 66 :D

Hank....good one! my understanding is route 66 has been delisted as a highway due to the fact the interstate highway system made it obsolete.I see the irony in Todds situation :D ... and for the record...the tv show "Route 66" was a very good show...i'd kill for that vette those guys were driving around...:)

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N8GAV
04-21-2008, 05:45 PM
Hank....good one! my understanding is route 66 has been delisted as a highway due to the fact the interstate highway system made it obsolete.I see the irony in Todds situation :D ... and for the record...the tv show "Route 66" was a very good show...i'd kill for that vette those guys were driving around...:)

73

Some areas you can drive on and the interstate exits will let you know where "Historic Route 66" was and is. 8 years ago my wife and I drove on some of it and stayed at the motel that are Tee-Pees and went to Winslow Az.to see some of her family on it. Yea that was about a 1960-61 Vette I think on that show. I watched that show when it was on and a few years back my daugthers watched on TV-Land and thought it was a cool show

K3VR
04-21-2008, 06:18 PM
I drove on some of it and stayed at the motel that are Tee-Pees and went to Winslow Az...

Coincidentally, I was standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaBgyPdI7c) just last winter!

N8GAV
04-21-2008, 06:45 PM
Coincidentally, I was standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaBgyPdI7c) just last winter!

And there was a girl my lord in a flat bed Ford slowing down to take a look at me :D

n9vo
04-21-2008, 07:21 PM
And there was a girl my lord in a flat bed Ford slowing down to take a look at me :D


Well, I hope you guys take it ezzzzzzzzzzzz and loosen your load!!!!

wb5ydk
04-21-2008, 08:47 PM
I think we're ready for an entrance by Joe Walsh, WB6ACU, to carry the melody.
http://www.qrz.com/callsign.html?callsign=wb6acu

n8yx
04-21-2008, 09:34 PM
I think we're ready for an entrance by Joe Walsh, WB6ACU, to carry the melody.
http://www.qrz.com/callsign.html?callsign=wb6acu

Joe's probably a little too busy with his music career to engage in these BashBaxterFests...besides, if he DID show up here, he'd be set upon worse than an auditorium full of former 13-year-old girls would do with David Cassidy... :eek:

kb2vxa
04-22-2008, 01:05 AM
You guys have me going, now the instrumental theme to the TV show starring Martin Milner as (get this) Tod Stiles is running rampant around my head.

"I think we're ready for an entrance by Joe Walsh, WB6ACU, to carry the melody."

Maybe he should learn these lyrics even if I do prefer Manhattan Transfer.

If you ever
Plan to motor west
Travel my way, take the highway that's the best
Get your kicks on Route 66

It winds from Chicago to LA
More than two thousand miles all the way
Hey, get your kicks on Route 66

Now you go through St. Louie
Joplin, Missouri
And Oklahoma City looks mighty pretty
Hey Janis, now you'll see Amarillo
Gallup, New Mexico
Flagstaff Arizona
Don't forget Winona
Kingman, Barstow, San Bernardino

Won't you get hip to this timely tip
When you make that California trip
Get your kicks on Route 66

Now you go through St. Louie
Joplin, Missouri
And Oklahoma City looks mighty pretty
Now you'll see Amarillo
Gallup, New Mexico
Flagstaff Arizona
Don't forget Winona
Kingman, Barstow, San Bernadino

Won't you get hip to this timely tip
When you make that California trip
Get your kicks on Route 66

N8GAV
04-22-2008, 01:14 AM
Ol Nat King Cole would be proud of you :)

VE7DCW
04-22-2008, 01:32 AM
Since all this "Route 66" stuff has started,I too hear that Nelson Riddle Route 66 theme song going over and over in my head :D nostalgia is wonderful... :)

73

K3VR
04-22-2008, 01:48 AM
Wouldn't "Random Nonsense" be a great name for a glam rock band?

Ladies and Gentleman, put your hands together for K1MAN and Random Nonsense as they introduce their new hit single, "Fruitcake!"

(crowd goes wild)

VE7DCW
04-22-2008, 02:43 AM
Wouldn't "Random Nonsense" be a great name for a glam rock band?

Ladies and Gentleman, put your hands together for K1MAN and Random Nonsense as they introduce their new hit single, "Fruitcake!"

(crowd goes wild)

..... featuring Karol "deedle deedle bleep bleep"Madera on the one armed cymbal You could sell a lot of tickets to a "band" like that!

73

K3VR
04-22-2008, 02:01 PM
Yes, "Random Nonsense" exemplifies the entire topic extremely well. You have your "War on Riley" crew; your "Defamation and False Complaint" crew; your "Callsign Hi-Jacker" crew, and; your "Anonymous Jamming" crew.

And at the "head" of this so-called organization is a Fruitcake who solicits sexual favors from other men over the air, then cries like a baby when you state the facts about him. The word "LOSER" would cover the whole topic!

:)

N4VGB
04-22-2008, 02:30 PM
Anybody else getting emails from K1MAN wanting you to make posts here on his opinion? I'm still laughing. :)

N8GAV
04-22-2008, 04:10 PM
Anybody else getting emails from K1MAN wanting you to make posts here on his opinion? I'm still laughing. :)

No but I would not put it passed him,acouple of us are wondering if it is Glenn sending out emails? I got a ton of spam with pop-up that had K1MAN 100% Leagal that I worked two days to get rid of. Now anything with K1MAN in it go's to BLOCKED

K3VR
04-22-2008, 05:07 PM
I got two emails containing a virus and a ton of AARA IARN spam since 2002. Now everything with the label K1MAN goes directly into the trash. I didn't get the emails you guys got, or if I did, they went straight to my junk/delete folder.

The email that's going around looks genuine, but who knows, and really, who cares? Like I said, there was nothing new in it anyhow. It's like getting an mp3 of so-called "interference" from the Fruitcake -- If you have a tinfoil beanie and half-a-brain it might be interesting, otherwise, nobody cares!

:)

n4mxz
04-22-2008, 05:13 PM
No but I would not put it passed him,acouple of us are wondering if it is Glenn sending out emails? I got a ton of spam with pop-up that had K1MAN 100% Leagal that I worked two days to get rid of. Now anything with K1MAN in it go's to BLOCKED

K1MAN 100% Leagal :eek:

The Amateur Service is a priviledge. It is controlled administratively within the confines and proscriptions of the Communications Act of 1934: as ammended by Telecom Act of 1996 (http://www.fcc.gov/Reports/1934new.pdf). This administrative process gives the FCC broad latitude in enforcment of Amateur Radio. Add to this the extremely subjective:

§97.101 General standards.
(a) In all respects not specifically covered by FCC Rules each amateur station must be operated in accordance with good engineering and good amateur practice.

and you have a controlling authority (FCC) that can 'do' just about anything they want to short of violating Federal statutory law and the Constitution.
Collecting fines and putting people in jail crosses into the realm of codified law. Pulling a license, or not renewing a license, or restricting air time is strictly under the purview of the FCC and the administrative process. ( Not often does an Administrative Law Judge reverse the FCC in Amateur issues).

To say K1MAN is "legal" is irrelevant. :D

N8GAV
04-22-2008, 05:29 PM
K1MAN 100% Leagal :eek:

The Amateur Service is a priviledge. It is controlled administratively within the confines and proscriptions of the Communications Act of 1934: as ammended by Telecom Act of 1996 (http://www.fcc.gov/Reports/1934new.pdf). This administrative process gives the FCC broad latitude in enforcment of Amateur Radio. Add to this the extremely subjective:

§97.101 General standards.
(a) In all respects not specifically covered by FCC Rules each amateur station must be operated in accordance with good engineering and good amateur practice.

and you have a controlling authority (FCC) that can 'do' just about anything they want to short of violating Federal statutory law and the Constitution.

Whether K1MAN was "legal" is irrelevant. :D

True, so it makes one wonder what he is talking about? Oh he claims the FCC sent someone to check out his TX and so on and they, "he claims", says he is leagal just more of Glenn's BS. And like Brian said WHO CARES,Face it Glenn no one dose if you are reading this

K3VR
04-22-2008, 07:33 PM
QST Contributing Editor H. Ward Silver, N0AX, Named "Amateur of the Year" (Apr 11, 2008) -- Dayton Hamvention® has named QST Contributing Editor and Author H. Ward Silver, N0AX, as its 2008 Amateur of the Year. Hamvention says Silver's "books and teaching materials have helped many become hams." Tom McDermott, N5EG, will receive Hamvention's Technical Achievement Award to recognize his technical contributions that helped digital ham radio expand. Emery McClendon, KB9IBW, was named the recipient of the Special Achievement Award for starting Amateur Radio Military Appreciation Day (ARMAD) in 2003 as a way for Amateur Radio to express support and appreciation for our service men and women. Hamvention announced its award winners today.

NA4BH
04-22-2008, 07:39 PM
Well that is just a shame. If there was a stipend with the award, MAN could have used it to help pay his $21,000 fine.

N8GAV
04-22-2008, 10:22 PM
WHAT? K1MAN SNUBBED :eek: Just what is this world comming to :confused:

w2amr
04-22-2008, 10:51 PM
WHAT? K1MAN SNUBBED :eek: Just what is this world comming to :confused:

With any luck he will be eligible for inmate of the year.

NA4BH
04-22-2008, 10:53 PM
With any luck he will be eligible for inmate of the year.

:D :D :D

He has my vote.

VE7DCW
04-22-2008, 11:42 PM
With any luck he will be eligible for inmate of the year.

...he could stay at the spacious Glenn Baxter wing at the Crowbar Hilton :D

73

kb2vxa
04-23-2008, 08:32 AM
I just realized something, look at his hair. Not quite an issue but one of those things that make you go hmmm.

wb5ydk
04-23-2008, 09:12 AM
That tiger looks somewhat sedated.

w2amr
04-23-2008, 10:56 AM
That tiger looks somewhat sedated.
They both do

VE7DCW
04-23-2008, 04:37 PM
That tiger looks somewhat sedated.

....oh..... it was'nt a promotional photo for Siegfried and Roy?? I knew Baxter had his bombastic tendencies,but I could never really figure out what was the idea with the Tiger Photo.You look at that picture and of course you can then hear Baxter spewing the age old line "Riley Hollingsworth is nothing but a cheap corrupt politician...!" It was good for a few laughs... :D

73

n8yx
04-23-2008, 04:45 PM
Why, the POOR animal! Being forced to sit through a photo shoot with THAT!

Someone call the ASPCA! Call ASCAP! AFL-CIO! Call Annemarie Lucas!

Please...won't someone think of the tigers?

w3wn
04-23-2008, 06:47 PM
I just realized something, look at his hair. Not quite an issue but one of those things that make you go hmmm.

Does he use the same hair stylist as Donald Trump? Or at least Jimmie Johnson?

N4VGB
04-24-2008, 02:12 AM
No but I would not put it passed him,acouple of us are wondering if it is Glenn sending out emails? I got a ton of spam with pop-up that had K1MAN 100% Leagal that I worked two days to get rid of. Now anything with K1MAN in it go's to BLOCKED

I got two emails from him requesting that I post on his behalf. I thought it was very comical.

AC4BB
04-24-2008, 02:56 AM
If. Baxter would pay the $21,000 Nal:eek:

VE7DCW
04-24-2008, 03:16 AM
If. Baxter would pay the $21,000 Nal:eek:

It's obvious Baxter gets more benefits out of not paying the $21,000.You could say it's the best publicity money can't buy..sheeeesh ...another K1MAN moment :D

73

n9vo
04-24-2008, 05:06 AM
It's been a while since Todd checked in!!!!

K3VR
04-24-2008, 03:19 PM
It's been a while since Todd checked in!!!!


Yeah... I wonder how the war's going!?

n8yx
04-24-2008, 03:28 PM
Yeah... I wonder how the war's going!?

Have you checked his blog for details?

VE7DCW
04-24-2008, 04:23 PM
Yeah... I wonder how the war's going!?

Good grief !! .... could Todd be MIA in his own one man war?? Something tells me we're not going to see Todd's name on a memorial plaque hanging in the Amateur Radio Operators hall of fame .... :rolleyes:

73

N8GAV
04-24-2008, 04:40 PM
I think Todd is a POW in his own War :D if not the he is AWOL :D He can't be MIA becouse there has been no action so to say

n9vo
04-24-2008, 04:49 PM
Have you checked his blog for details?

Unless there is another, his "declaration of War" blog entry was the last on April 17th. Hope we don't have to pay a ransom for his release!!!!

N8GAV
04-24-2008, 04:52 PM
Unless there is another, his "declaration of War" blog entry was the last on April 17th. Hope we don't have to pay a ransom for his release!!!!

If it is more then 10 cents.......... They can keep him :D

NA4BH
04-26-2008, 03:49 AM
I think Todd is a POW in his own War :D if not the he is AWOL :D He can't be MIA becouse there has been no action so to say


Beverage just shot out of my nose......... :D :D :D

Oh GOD, I fired the first shot.........

K3VR
04-26-2008, 03:55 AM
I doubt Todd's a POW. He may simply be enjoying a Disney movie and some popcorn with that new Japanese doll he mentioned...

VE7DCW
04-26-2008, 04:21 AM
Yup...Todd's version of "the Life of Riley" ...a definate must read...I laughed all the way through it... if I was Karol,i'd sue....Todd is making you look...well....nuts really.. :D

73

K3VR
04-26-2008, 04:24 AM
I like the recording of the Fruitcake on that other site. The one about him, not by him. You know the one?

"Keep it up Todd, I like it Todd, I like it very much!"

I smile every time I hear that one. Where else can you find quality entertainment like that?

VE7DCW
04-26-2008, 04:51 AM
I like the recording of the Fruitcake on that other site. The one about him, not by him. You know the one?

"Keep it up Todd, I like it Todd, I like it very much!"

I smile every time I hear that one. Where else can you find quality entertainment like that?

I find it amusing.... stupid egging on stupidity... Karol's run of vulgarity will hopefully soon come to an end...Todd will have uttered his last whatever to the law...Baxter will officially be forced to pay.....yikes...red letter days you have to love them.. :)

73

K3VR
04-26-2008, 08:31 PM
You better be careful or Todd will put this conversation on his blog. He's very sensitive when he thinks people are making fun of him!

The Fruitcake is sensitive too. If someone doesn't say something mean about me soon, he's going to have to make something up... Not that it hasn't happened before... about 1,000 times!

:)

NA4BH
04-26-2008, 11:26 PM
It kinda reminds me of this.....


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/JohnnySevenCatalog.jpg




EDIT TO ADD: And tell me you didn't have one of these.......

VE7DCW
04-27-2008, 02:16 AM
It kinda reminds me of this.....


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/JohnnySevenCatalog.jpg




EDIT TO ADD: And tell me you didn't have one of these.......

..Oh my goodness!!...does'nt that bring back memories!! I had one when I was kid...the grenade launcher was the coolest!

NA4BH
04-27-2008, 02:25 AM
I hate to be exposing all of the secret weapons that will be used in the One Man War. But here is another.

http://www.samstoybox.com/toypics/SixfingerR.jpg


And I am sure you had one of these.

VE7DCW
04-27-2008, 02:33 AM
nope....I did'nt have one....the neighbours kid did.....but I had a neat potato gun he did'nt have...I suppose Todd will be using the most advance weapons in his "war"? :D

73

K3VR
04-27-2008, 02:35 AM
Someone on Todd's blog posted a link to the Fruitcake's administrative functions panel on his webpage, saying something like "I sure hope hackers don't destroy this webpage" and for some odd reason Todd deleted the message several times!

I thought Todd was a Free Speech Advocate. Why is he deleting perfectly normal comments designed to protect netizens everywhere, but he doesn't mind using the F word and declaring war on everyone?

I'll bet the folks who track the Fruitcake will post the link and the comment on their webpage. You know the one I mean? "It's not by him, but about him." They seem like true free speech advocates to me.

Although, it's sometimes a bit inappropriate for the office, since it contains actual recordings of the Fruitcake himself...

NA4BH
04-27-2008, 02:36 AM
I just noticed it has a CW key built in.

K3VR
04-27-2008, 02:43 AM
I had this Aston Martin DB5 Coupe toy in 1965. It had a bullet proof windscreen, and ejector seat, and machine gun turrets, and a license plate that revolved, just like in the movie, Casino Royale. Wish I still had it!

http://www.toywonders.com/productcart/pc/catalog/39413SV_ZOOM.jpg

VE7DCW
04-27-2008, 03:01 AM
Wow!! ....I sure hope Karol's obscene website does'nt suffer too many "accidents" ...geeez look at all that work he's put into it.Sure be a terrible shame if it was nuked...:D

73

N8GAV
04-27-2008, 02:24 PM
Yea But this was DAh BOMB

N8GAV
04-27-2008, 02:46 PM
It may help if picture will load

N8GAV
04-27-2008, 04:47 PM
Well as the say Three times a charm....... I got this in 1965 and Christmas two years ago my Mother handed me a package an asked me if I remembered this, she had kept it and I forgot about it. You were not cool if you didn't have this Christmas '65 :rolleyes:

N4VGB
04-28-2008, 02:51 AM
Well as the say Three times a charm....... I got this in 1965 and Christmas two years ago my Mother handed me a package an asked me if I remembered this, she had kept it and I forgot about it. You were not cool if you didn't have this Christmas '65 :rolleyes:

EBAY SOLID GOLD!!! :D:D:D

N9OGL
04-28-2008, 05:39 AM
Boy, it went from talking about K1MAN, to me to toys.....what a weird thread

Mr. Todd N9OGL

VE7DCW
04-28-2008, 06:05 AM
So Todd.....the question everyone seems to want an answer to....how's your little war going anyways? :rolleyes:

73

N9OGL
04-28-2008, 06:10 AM
Just peachey Keen, As long as I'm on the web, the goverment doesn't have to worry

Mr. Todd N9OGL :p

K3VR
04-28-2008, 02:03 PM
Speaking of random nonsense, I got an anonymous email asking me to check out the KB9RQZ blog.

He has a picture there which he found on the Canadian Fruitcake's web page. It's a picture of N3JBH and WB3IAL at the Westmoreland hamfest. The Fruitcake has it labeled as being me and Mike Guernsey.

Anyway, KB9RQZ says the guy in the picture (Smith) looks familiar and he may have had amorous relations with him (WB3IAL). Yikes! I guess someone better contact Smitty and tell him to be on the lookout for his Michigan love interest.

Not only that, but the Canadian Fruitcake calls this Kevin Strom, white supremacist, person who was recently jailed, my "guru"... Wow, stay away from that cheap vodka boys, it'll really rot your brain!

:)

N9OGL
04-28-2008, 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by N9OGL
I personally don't know the guy and could care less about him. To answer the second question, I don't really have to worry about FBI.

Thanks, I don't know him either, never talked to him, never met him, wouldn't know him from Adam. Did the FBI give you the all clear after their visit last Tuesday? I thought you said it was an ongoing investigation?

K3VR


To answer your question here, as not to do a Mark Morgan and hijack a thread. The FBI isn't too worried about me, like I said on my blog, the people posting comment better watch what they say, hint hint.


Mr. Todd

K3VR
04-28-2008, 07:03 PM
To answer your question here, as not to do a Mark Morgan and hijack a thread. The FBI isn't too worried about me, like I said on my blog, the people posting comment better watch what they say, hint hint.


Mr. Todd

I agree. I read some of those comments a few days ago and some of them were REALLY nasty and mean spirited. I'd delete the nasty ones if I were you, but, it's your blog.

N9OGL
04-28-2008, 08:21 PM
The point is, the FBI isn't look at me anymore, their kind of looking at these other people.
I do like how the ve7kfm site claims that a post I made was on the taylorville site, yet it wasn't.

Mr. Todd

VE7DCW
04-28-2008, 09:27 PM
The point is, the FBI isn't look at me anymore, their kind of looking at these other people.
I do like how the ve7kfm site claims that a post I made was on the taylorville site, yet it wasn't.

Mr. Todd

Wow Todd!!... with all the crazy stuff that you and Karol keep doing,and I really do mean nutso,I would think the 2 of you both would be suffering "constantly looking over my shoulder" syndrome..probably not the governments you need to worry about.... yikes!! :rolleyes:

73

N9OGL
04-28-2008, 09:48 PM
I agree. I read some of those comments a few days ago and some of them were REALLY nasty and mean spirited. I'd delete the nasty ones if I were you, but, it's your blog.

what nutso thing are you talking about in regarding me....some jackass is attacking my access pointing to the INTERNET, so if you were like me you would get pissed off too if someone cut your access to the internet and free speech off. BTW that isn't no threat, if these people complete remove me from the INTERNET, I WILL return to radio and the FCC will not be able to stop me, why free speech. that's why the FBI doesn't want to touch this crap, they are afraid of getting sued for free speech violation. you think of full of it on that, I'm not :)

K3VR
04-28-2008, 10:29 PM
what nutso thing are you talking about in regarding me....some jackass is attacking my access pointing to the INTERNET, so if you were like me you would get pissed off too if someone cut your access to the internet and free speech off. BTW that isn't no threat, if these people complete remove me from the INTERNET, I WILL return to radio and the FCC will not be able to stop me, why free speech. that's why the FBI doesn't want to touch this crap, they are afraid of getting sued for free speech violation. you think of full of it on that, I'm not :)

I think you meant to quote VE7DCW? Gerry made a remark about something nutso on your blog. Not sure if he was talking about the attack on the ten year old, the threat to crash the FCC email servers, the comment about the war against the FBI and FCC, or what have you.

VE7DCW
04-28-2008, 10:33 PM
K3VR quote:
"Not only that, but the Canadian Fruitcake calls this Kevin Strom, white supremacist, person who was recently jailed, my "guru"... Wow, stay away from that cheap vodka boys, it'll really rot your brain!"

Brian....you know Karol has incredible knowledge in all this.All you you have to do is listen to Mr.Magic and the incredibly homophobic,racist and obscene dogma that he spiels on the 20 meter band and he proves his expert opinion in the matter.Here's hoping Karol's days as "Embarressment Amateur Operator of the decade" may soon be over! :)

73

K3VR
04-28-2008, 11:03 PM
All you you have to do is listen to Mr. Magic and the incredibly homophobic, racist and obscene dogma that he spiels on the 20 meter band and he proves his expert opinion in the matter. Here's hoping his days as "Embarassment Amateur Operator of the decade" may soon be over! :)

73

If he'd find a girlfriend, or get a job, or at least lay off the booze, he'd probably be a lot happier. We'd be happier too because we could use 14.275 without banning our kids from the radio room.

On second thought, scratch the girlfriend comment. I doubt he'd be interested. Studies (http://www.philosophy-religion.org/handouts/homophobia.htmScientific) indicate 4 out of 5 homophobes are actually repressed homosexuals.

w2amr
04-28-2008, 11:22 PM
You guys should get a room.

N8GAV
04-28-2008, 11:47 PM
what nutso thing are you talking about in regarding me....some jackass is attacking my access pointing to the INTERNET, so if you were like me you would get pissed off too if someone cut your access to the internet and free speech off. BTW that isn't no threat, if these people complete remove me from the INTERNET, I WILL return to radio and the FCC will not be able to stop me, why free speech. that's why the FBI doesn't want to touch this crap, they are afraid of getting sued for free speech violation. you think of full of it on that, I'm not :)

Oh Todd your sooooooo funny. The FBI afraid of YOU? You may have what a AAS degree or a JVS education telling us here that people with Jurist Doctorate degrees are afraid of being sued over free speech. I think they know more then you do about what is freedom of speech becouse they are also inmursed in civil rights every day. They will IF they want go to the Courts and stop you.;)

N9OGL
04-29-2008, 12:23 AM
Oh Todd your sooooooo funny. The FBI afraid of YOU? You may have what a AAS degree or a JVS education telling us here that people with Jurist Doctorate degrees are afraid of being sued over free speech. I think they know more then you do about what is freedom of speech becouse they are also inmursed in civil rights every day. They will IF they want go to the Courts and stop you.;)

Keep Dreaming.....

N9OGL
04-29-2008, 12:31 AM
I think you meant to quote VE7DCW? Gerry made a remark about something nutso on your blog. Not sure if he was talking about the attack on the ten year old, the threat to crash the FCC email servers, the comment about the war against the FBI and FCC, or what have you.

Accually Brian, as for the Kid I didn't really threaten him, more or less, Secondly I didn't threat to crash the FCC computers, I threaten to send the FCC an email a day until something was done about this warning letter crap. Finally I did declare war since these "groups" (the FCC and FBI) a group that seems to basic don't give a crap that a persons "free speech" is being suppress. The FBI knows that the FCC didn't check my field strength on my station (Which according to the FBI they were suppose to do) and that those warning letters were nothing but a threat tatic by the FCC. They also know that the information that the FCC got about the station came off the internet.

Mr. Todd N9OGL

K3VR
04-29-2008, 12:59 AM
I guess it all depends on how the Police in Wisconsin and Illinois, and the FBI, FCC, etc., interpret what you wrote. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. If they charge you then you'll have to defend yourself, whatever your intent was.

This passage is from your 1st FCC Warning, and it mentions "Commission radio direction finding." I don't see anything about information obtained from the internet.