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Transcript: Barack Obama's Speech On Race
I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. I was raised with the help of a white grandfather who survived a Depression to serve in Patton's Army during World War II and a white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth while he was overseas. I've gone to some of the best schools in America and lived in one of the world's poorest nations. I am married to a black American who carries within her the blood of slaves and slaveowners - an inheritance we pass on to our two precious daughters. I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.
That Kenyan ancestry is definitely forgivable, but the Kansas part is hard to swallow.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/18/politics/main3947908.shtml
EDIT: Sorry, Try this.
Giving a good speech does not mean giving a good answer.
http://newsbusters.org/node/19949/print
kc2orw
03-18-2008, 05:32 PM
Transcript: Barack Obama's Speech On Race
That Kenyan ancestry is definitely forgivable, but the Kansas part is hard to swallow.
Jerry could you fix the link please :)
kg6amw
03-18-2008, 05:36 PM
He's painted himself into a corner on this one – you can’t sit in church for 20 years and then deny you heard anything wrong. He will have to choose sides and take the damage in stride.
AE6IP
03-18-2008, 05:57 PM
He's painted himself into a corner on this one – you can’t sit in church for 20 years and then deny you heard anything wrong. He will have to choose sides and take the damage in stride.
Didn't read the speech before commenting?
I rather think he's painted a mural in that corner of his.
K5RCD
03-18-2008, 06:09 PM
Even though I am diametrically opposed to most of his political views, I thought Barack Obama was someone different - someone special, a breath of fresh air.
This speech shows me that he is just more of the same old - same old.
Do I believe he is a racist ?
No, of course not.
Just another politician. :(
He's painted himself into a corner on this one – you can’t sit in church for 20 years and then deny you heard anything wrong. He will have to choose sides and take the damage in stride.
With that stance, you have painted yourself as part of the problem, not the solution.
Didn't read the speech before commenting?
I rather think he's painted a mural in that corner of his.
Good comeback. But I apologize to all for not having the correct link to start out this thread.
Now you can read the whole speech. Even the part where he talks about his grandmother.
kg6amw
03-18-2008, 06:24 PM
Obama implicitly promised racial healing, which is exactly what makes his two decades of cleaving to the teachings of a raging racial hater so shocking.
ac4ut
03-18-2008, 06:28 PM
Even though I am diametrically opposed to most of his political views, I thought Barack Obama was someone different - someone special, a breath of fresh air.
This speech shows me that he is just more of the same old - same old.
Do I believe he is a racist ?
No, of course not.
Just another politician. :(
That is good and bad. At least you know where you stand with a racist, but a politician??????????
W3MIV
03-18-2008, 07:27 PM
Listen to the speech on YouTube here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xIBAjGGXX2A
Nice try Barry, but it didn't work.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/18/juan-williams-obama-avoided-responsibility/?print=1
WB2WIK
03-18-2008, 08:21 PM
That was a yawnfest.
But technically interesting: I could tell exactly where the teleprompters were located to his left and right, above eye level, because that's where he kept looking.
Obama admits the obvious -- that he does take Wright's views quite seriously. He states:
"The fact is that the comments that have been made and the issues that have surfaced over the last few weeks reflect the complexities of race in this country that we’ve never really worked through – a part of our union that we have yet to perfect. And if we walk away now, if we simply retreat into our respective corners, we will never be able to come together and solve challenges like health care, or education, or the need to find good jobs for every American."
Obama not only welcomes the comments and issues raised by Wright into our national dialogue, but claims that we can't "solve challenges like health or education" without working through these comments and issues. Obama should be required to explain why he thinks. For example, we can't substantially improve our health care system without "working through" whatever "complexity" is associated with such comments as Wright's claim that the U.S. brought 9/11 on itself. Part of the answer, though certainly not a sufficient one, is that Obama takes Wright's comments seriously, even though he does not agree with them. They are, as he has said, provocative from his perspective.
Although Obama's speech is not without its evasions, I consider it politically courageous. He has refused to walk away from Wright's black liberation theology when it might well have been expedient to do so. Personally, this was, probably, not too smart.
The rest of us now should have the courage to take Obama at his word and decide whether it is acceptable to elect as POTUS someone who carries Rev. Wright around as part of him, and who takes his ranting seriously.
73.
Transcript: Barack Obama's Speech On Race
That Kenyan ancestry is definitely forgivable, but the Kansas part is hard to swallow.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/18/politics/main3947908.shtml
EDIT: Sorry, Try this.
Translated (Short Version) Obama is a MUTT
Just like the rest of us
Obama admits the obvious -- that he does take Wright's views quite seriously. He states:
"The fact is that the comments that have been made and the issues that have surfaced over the last few weeks reflect the complexities of race in this country that we’ve never really worked through – a part of our union that we have yet to perfect. And if we walk away now, if we simply retreat into our respective corners, we will never be able to come together and solve challenges like health care, or education, or the need to find good jobs for every American."
Obama not only welcomes the comments and issues raised by Wright into our national dialogue, but claims that we can't "solve challenges like health or education" without working through these comments and issues. Obama should be required to explain why he thinks. For example, we can't substantially improve our health care system without "working through" whatever "complexity" is associated with such comments as Wright's claim that the U.S. brought 9/11 on itself. Part of the answer, though certainly not a sufficient one, is that Obama takes Wright's comments seriously, even though he does not agree with them. They are, as he has said, provocative from his perspective.
Although Obama's speech is not without its evasions, I consider it politically courageous. He has refused to walk away from Wright's black liberation theology when it might well have been expedient to do so. Personally, this was, probably, not too smart.
The rest of us now should have the courage to take Obama at his word and decide whether it is acceptable to elect as POTUS someone who carries Rev. Wright around as part of him, and who takes his ranting seriously.
73.
To me here he is saying that we need to give pause to those with differing opinions than our own (as if to say like someone near Palmer), and give their opinion consideration.
But back to you old man. If you were Obama's speech writer, and you had the task to get him to get the correct message across that you are actually looking for, what would you write?
To me here he is saying that we need to give pause to those with differing opinions than our own (as if to say like someone near Palmer), and give their opinion consideration.
But back to you old man. If you were Obama's speech writer, and you had the task to get him to get the correct message across that you are actually looking for, what would you write?
Yeah, Obama's kinda "stuck" with Wright... after a close, TWENTY-YEAR relationship with this man and the church, how do you really wholly reject him without saying, "I screwed up! This relationship was wrong; I was wrong."
Obama's character, social and political sincerity remains patently questionable.
Yeah, Obama's kinda "stuck" with Wright... after a close, TWENTY-YEAR relationship with this man and the church, how do you really wholly reject him without saying, "I screwed up! This relationship was wrong; I was wrong."
Obama's character, social and political sincerity remains patently questionable.
Each to their own. To me, he was showing tolerance to all. He embraces his relationships with people he has disagreements.
Imagine this board if we rejected others with differing opinions. Fred's email list would be long with everybody asking him to ban everybody else.
Dude. No two people agree on everything. Some of us don't agree with ourselves. What else can you ask for from any candidate than to be accepting of other Americans? Really, what more can you ask?
AE6IP
03-18-2008, 09:17 PM
Obama implicitly promised racial healing, which is exactly what makes his two decades of cleaving to the teachings of a raging racial hater so shocking.
So in your world, one angry sermon makes a man a 'raging racial hater'?
You really don't know anything about Wright, do you? You've just picked a sound bite to get worked up over.
And you wonder why the system is broken. It's broken because of you and the style of politics that such behavior entails.
AE6IP
03-18-2008, 09:18 PM
The same tired knees jerking in the same tired direction, and then their owners wonder why the system is broken.
So in your world, one angry sermon makes a man a 'raging racial hater'?
You really don't know anything about Wright, do you? You've just picked a sound bite to get worked up over.
And you wonder why the system is broken. It's broken because of you and the style of politics that such behavior entails.
Without knee jerk, we would have no jerk at all.
AE6IP
03-18-2008, 09:34 PM
Yeah, Obama's kinda "stuck" with Wright... after a close, TWENTY-YEAR relationship with this man and the church, how do you really wholly reject him without saying, "I screwed up! This relationship was wrong; I was wrong."
He has no reason to abandon Wright. We all have friends we don't always agree with.
Obama's character, social and political sincerity remains patently questionable.
Nonsense. The Senator showed more character and integrity by sticking with what Wright has done well but condemning what he has done poorly than any of the people trying to make an issue out of Wright with their shallow sound-bite political ploys.
k0ews
03-18-2008, 09:52 PM
I just watched the whole thing, in it's entirety, and I'm satisfied with the answers he gave. I thought he laid it out directly and I accept where he is on this thing. I congratulate him for tackling it head-on without throwing someone under the bus, or back peddling.
If I don't vote for Obama, it will not be because of his race, nor his associations with a controversial minister. It will be due to the issues.
W3MIV
03-18-2008, 09:57 PM
Nonsense. The Senator showed more character and integrity by sticking with what Wright has done well but condemning what he has done poorly than any of the people trying to make an issue out of Wright with their shallow sound-bite political ploys.
Well said.
I like Matthews, he's always good for a laugh, that's funny Chris.
http://newsbusters.org/node/19963/print
kg6amw
03-18-2008, 10:58 PM
The candidacy of Barack Obama wears two aspects: the first as an unconscious acknowledgement of historical guilt and the second as an implicit offer of redemption. It amazes me how many are blinded by these feelings of guilt and then see no wrong.
kc2orw
03-18-2008, 11:07 PM
The candidacy of Barack Obama wears two aspects: the first as an unconscious acknowledgement of historical guilt and the second as an implicit offer of redemption. It amazes me how many are blinded by these feelings of guilt and then see no wrong.
No guilt on my part how about you?
Think of it as restoring greatness to a nation that has gotten a bit of a tarnished reputation and has lost much of it's forward momentum.
Say what!! Barry.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-trots-out-his-racist-grandmother/print/
kc2orw
03-18-2008, 11:34 PM
Say what!! Barry.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obamas-trots-out-his-racist-grandmother/print/
Do you read your links before posting them or do you just blindly post them :D
I'm disappointed in you, Barry.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-first-to-call-for-imus-firing-for-racism/print/
kc2orw
03-18-2008, 11:51 PM
I'm disappointed in you, Barry.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-first-to-call-for-imus-firing-for-racism/print/
Imus is an idiot and he should have stayed off the radio but apparently he feels the need for redemption, or more money. So he spends a portion of his radio time trying to make up for his stupidity...
He has no reason to abandon Wright. We all have friends we don't always agree with.
Nonsense. The Senator showed more character and integrity by sticking with what Wright has done well but condemning what he has done poorly than any of the people trying to make an issue out of Wright with their shallow sound-bite political ploys.
Many people, me included, judge a man/woman by the close and abiding company he/she keeps. The American people will collectively judge him with their votes.
For Obama, it was conveniently and politically expedient at the time (20-years) to attend this church on Chicago's South Side -- as he was reaching out to identify with common folk -- for he was far from one of them with his Ivy League education and privileged upbringing in Hawaii.
Unfortunately, he and his family's attachment to Wright and this church grew over a period of twenty years, and he has admitted to knowing of the hateful rhetoric and outright lies spewed forth by the despicable pastor, yet he did nothing to assuage this outrageous conduct by a minister of the church -- his friend. This amounts to being a tacit partner in such divisive racial and anti-American rhetoric. Only when it becomes politically expedient to speak against such remarks, which he was fully aware of, did he say anything at all.
In the end, he will go down. Appalled voters will see to that.
n2ize
03-19-2008, 12:41 AM
This speech by Obama was most definately the most inspiring and most beautiful speech ever made by anyone in politics. Obama is indeed among the greatest orator in history. He thoroughly addressed the issue of race and the pathway through which we can move forward.
K8YZK
03-19-2008, 12:46 AM
This speech by Obama was most definately the most inspiring and most beautiful speech ever made by anyone in politics. Obama is indeed among the greatest orator in history. He thoroughly addressed the issue of race and the pathway through which we can move forward.
No actually Gettysburg address, was a hundred percent better, and what was it about, keep the country together and stop slavery.
Sorry to say Barry, they're not all fainting for you.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/18/video-gingrich-lowers-the-boom-on-obama/?print=1
W4DFW
03-19-2008, 02:17 AM
Many people, me included, judge a man/woman by the close and abiding company he/she keeps. The American people will collectively judge him with their votes.
For Obama, it was conveniently and politically expedient at the time (20-years) to attend this church on Chicago's South Side -- as he was reaching out to identify with common folk -- for he was far from one of them with his Ivy League education and privileged upbringing in Hawaii.
Unfortunately, he and his family's attachment to Wright and this church grew over a period of twenty years, and he has admitted to knowing of the hateful rhetoric and outright lies spewed forth by the despicable pastor, yet he did nothing to assuage this outrageous conduct by a minister of the church -- his friend. This amounts to being a tacit partner in such divisive racial and anti-American rhetoric. Only when it becomes politically expedient to speak against such remarks, which he was fully aware of, did he say anything at all.
In the end, he will go down. Appalled voters will see to that.
Well said and right on target!
What I fail to understand is how Obama is somehow "enlightening" the rest of us on race, yet if McCain were associated with a pastor who was a member of the KKK, all HELL would be breaking lose.
Wright is a racist as are the KKK, but somehow Obama's association with Wright is "OK." Just how is that?
What we are finding is that Blacks have completely forgotten the great words of Martin Luther King, Jr., who dreamed of the day his children would be judged NOT by the color of their skin, but by the content of their CHARACTER!
It appears Wright is a race-baiter just like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, someone who lives for the day they can inject race into every aspect of our lives.
Obama can't have it both ways. Either he believes what MLK had to say, or he believes his racist Pastor.
Quite frankly, it doesn't really matter as he has now shown us he is just a great orator without substance.
He is done.
And THANK YOU DUMBOCRATS for giving us the DEVIL HERSELF in his place.
May God rest your souls for the HELL you have brought this great country.
...............Bob
W4DFW
03-19-2008, 02:24 AM
This speech by Obama was most definately the most inspiring and most beautiful speech ever made by anyone in politics. Obama is indeed among the greatest orator in history. He thoroughly addressed the issue of race and the pathway through which we can move forward.
Grasshopper, you are *SO* nieve!
AE6IP
03-19-2008, 06:08 AM
The candidacy of Barack Obama wears two aspects: the first as an unconscious acknowledgement of historical guilt and the second as an implicit offer of redemption. It amazes me how many are blinded by these feelings of guilt and then see no wrong.
Another strawman.
I have no personal guilt on issues of race and am not 'blinded' by it.
I see no message of 'redemption' from Obama and feel no need for any.
There are two people running for the democratic nomination. Of them, Obama, shows the most skill in the areas that the country most needs. If his party continues its course, he will face McCain in November, and I will vote for him, because he is the better choice.
He is the better choice because the presidency is mostly a bully pulpit as Roosevelt described it, and he is the more effective of the three in such a pulpit.
He is a better choice because he carries none of the baggage of the others.
He is a better choice because he is the only of the three who wishes to unite, rather than continue the destructive politics of divisiveness that have too long plagued this country.
AE6IP
03-19-2008, 06:15 AM
Many people, me included, judge a man/woman by the close and abiding company he/she keeps. The American people will collectively judge him with their votes.
and they will make him our next president.
For Obama, it was conveniently and politically expedient at the time (20-years) to attend this church on Chicago's South Side -- as he was reaching out to identify with common folk -- for he was far from one of them with his Ivy League education and privileged upbringing in Hawaii.
You don't know much about the churches on the South Side, if you think that's the reason to pick Trinity.
Unfortunately, he and his family's attachment to Wright and this church grew over a period of twenty years, and he has admitted to knowing of the hateful rhetoric and outright lies spewed forth by the despicable pastor, yet he did nothing to assuage this outrageous conduct by a minister of the church -- his friend.
My how the tale has grown in the telling. We've gone from some inflammatory language in a few sermons -- the correct telling to "outright lies" and "despicable". You're only fooling yourself with that sort of bogus smear.
No doubt, like so many of those who are trying to destroy Wright for his lapses, hoping to bring Obama down in the process, you know nothing at all outside of the text of those few sermons about the man.
In the end, he will go down. Appalled voters will see to that.
In the end he will be president. Voters tired of the sort of political gaming your attempting will see to that.
AE6IP
03-19-2008, 06:24 AM
What I fail to understand is how Obama is somehow "enlightening" the rest of us on race, yet if McCain were associated with a pastor who was a member of the KKK, all HELL would be breaking lose.
McCain is associated with pastors far more deserving of all HELL breaking lose than Wright.
Obama isn't "enlightening" anybody about race. He gave a good speech responding to unwarranted criticism. Race has never been something he's wanted in the campaign and it is only those trying to bring him down with whispering smear campaigns who have led him to address the subject.
Wright is a racist as are the KKK, but somehow Obama's association with Wright is "OK." Just how is that?
Wright's not as racist as the KKK, and you should be ashamed of yourself for spreading such nonsense.
What we are finding is that Blacks have completely forgotten the great words of Martin Luther King, Jr., who dreamed of the day his children would be judged NOT by the color of their skin, but by the content of their CHARACTER!
I take it you neither listened to nor read Obama's speech. I can't imagine any other way you could have gotten from Wright's angry rhetoric to such an overtly racist comment.
It appears Wright is a race-baiter just like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, someone who lives for the day they can inject race into every aspect of our lives.
It only appears that way to people trying to destroy Wright, hoping the collateral damage will bring Obama down.
Wright's language is inflammatory, but hardly race-baiting.
Obama can't have it both ways. Either he believes what MLK had to say, or he believes his racist Pastor.
Since you profess such a strong judgment of Wright, answer a few questions: How long was he pastor at Trinity? How many sermons did he give in that time? How many of them were inflammatory? What did he do with the other six days of the his week?
Quite frankly, it doesn't really matter as he has now shown us he is just a great orator without substance.
He showed you nothing, because you were not willing to look.
He is done.
Not hardly.
You don't know much about the churches on the South Side, if you think that's the reason to pick Trinity.
Actually, my great uncle just retired as a pastor of a prominent Catholic church on the South Side. I visited him several times growing up in Iowa and Wisconsin, and we have had several interesting conversations concerning race and the role of the Church in the poorer sections of Chicago.
As a lowly pastoral priest on the South Side for more than 45 years, He had an immeasurable amount of compassion and love for the poor and less fortunate -- a quality very few have. His service to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, was the propagation of God's love, peace, and His unbounding abilities of forgiveness, despite past transgressions. God's love of His people is color blind; so shall his People be.
73, ye of little faith.
AE6IP
03-19-2008, 12:18 PM
Actually, my great uncle just retired as a pastor of a prominent Catholic church on the South Side.
This great uncle have a name? How about the "prominent" church?
As a lowly pastoral priest on the South Side for more than 45 years,
One cannot be the 'lowly' pastor of a 'prominent' church.
I don't think it's going away, Barry.
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=BD65630D-3048-5C12-00DB8D4AECDABF35
Actually, my great uncle just retired as a pastor of a prominent Catholic church on the South Side. I visited him several times growing up in Iowa and Wisconsin, and we have had several interesting conversations concerning race and the role of the Church in the poorer sections of Chicago.
As a lowly pastoral priest on the South Side for more than 45 years, He had an immeasurable amount of compassion and love for the poor and less fortunate -- a quality very few have. His service to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, was the propagation of God's love, peace, and His unbounding abilities of forgiveness, despite past transgressions. God's love of His people is color blind; so shall his People be.
73, ye of little faith.
Looks almost like an Obama speech. Did you get Obama to write this for you?
K8YZK
03-19-2008, 12:58 PM
"There are two people running for the democratic nomination. Of them, Obama, shows the most skill in the areas that the country most needs."
What areas are those that he is most skilled at?
AE6IP
03-19-2008, 01:19 PM
"There are two people running for the democratic nomination. Of them, Obama, shows the most skill in the areas that the country most needs."
What areas are those that he is most skilled at?
Feel free to read the next three paragraphs in my post after that one.
This speech by Obama was most definately the most inspiring and most beautiful speech ever made by anyone in politics. Obama is indeed among the greatest orator in history. He thoroughly addressed the issue of race and the pathway through which we can move forward.
What was your favorite part, where he threw grandmom under the bus, but made excuses for his racist preacher.
K8YZK
03-19-2008, 02:38 PM
Feel free to read the next three paragraphs in my post after that one.
I did before I posted my reply.
Again what areas is he the best of the best of all the rest?
N0WVA
03-19-2008, 02:42 PM
Whats the big deal here,anyway?
The "bad clip" you see in the media says "god damn America for treating its citizens less than human",now whats wrong with that?
I agree, and think why should god bless a country led by power hungry men bent on global domination?
Where did the glow go??
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=Y2NjOTA1YzIxNTIxYWFmNTVkOGE0ZDVhMDNlYzg4ODc=
Obama is getting more scary. Holy bag of hot air!
We'll see what the McCain camp comes up with.
What Barry did not say.
http://newsbusters.org/node/19972/print
KD6NIG
03-19-2008, 03:11 PM
That is good and bad. At least you know where you stand with a racist, but a politician??????????
You don't stand with a politician. You know what you're going to get. Check your wallet after he stands next to you. You'll find it empty.
One thing this preacher (if thats what you want to call him) solidifies is that racism is alive and well in America, and unlike what every race other than White keeps crowing, its not just the White people perpetuating it. It comes from all colors and all creeds.
Its nice to wake up in the morning and hear cries of Racism, and for once have it not tied to someone White like they usually like to do.
It happens from all sides, and its not going to stop till all sides view it for what it is. The scary thing about this situation is that if you listen to some of the rhetoric coming out of this, its "OK" because its not a White person doing it.
Thankfully we can all be reassured that stupidity doesn't have racial boundries.
But, even with all this, I don't think its going to hurt Obama in the long run. At least not for getting the nomination. It came out too late to hurt him now. Sure, the DNC might look at it and maybe derail him, but this kind of preaching has been going on for years, and anyone who calls anyone on it just gets accused of the very crime they are committing. I'm honestly shocked people are calling this guy on the carpet for it at all.
Its funny that good old Al Sharpton isn't screaming either.
I love the double standard. But frankly, unless this guy is discovered to have preached a calling of jihad, its going to blow over. It always does.
Double standards are nice when you're on the good side of the standard. As a white person in America, I learned a long time ago to just keep my mouth shut, because anything I say will be twisted into something that I didn't remotely come close to saying.
If Obama wins the nomination, perhaps I will at least be able to speak with my vote. That will be about it though-and even then, by doing so, I'll be accused of voting against him because of my skin color by some ultra radical group, I'm sure.
Nevermind the fact I'll likely be writing in NONE since I don't trust any of them at all, and still wonder to this day how the heck any of them even got in the running for this presidency. This has got to be the most worthless lot of candidates I've ever seen. But thats a rant for a different thread.
We'll see if this explodes into scandal of a level it should. I'm not counting on it.
kg6amw
03-19-2008, 03:13 PM
What was your favorite part, where he threw grandmom under the bus, but made excuses for his racist preacher.
Thowing grandma under the wheels is nothing to this guy. Obama is not much more than a modern day huckster selling “cure all medicine” out the back of his wagon. People are just head over heals for reasons of guilt or the fact that they see him as modern day utopian savior. Such statements as “he’s just right for the country”, or “the people need to hear a different message” all allude to this mania. Obama is selling tap water as magic elixir and he has no shortage of dupes thrusting dollars bills for his cure all. Check out his policies on his web site and what you find are vague statements and recyled hard left economic policies. The only thing missing here is the organ music in the background while he makes his pitches.
AE6IP
03-19-2008, 03:35 PM
I did before I posted my reply.
Again what areas is he the best of the best of all the rest?
Read them again. They answer that question.
Well, they answer the proper question 'which of the three current candidates is most suited for the job'.
K8YZK
03-19-2008, 04:44 PM
Read them again. They answer that question.
Well, they answer the proper question 'which of the three current candidates is most suited for the job'.
And I know it is not Barack Hussein Obama..
AE6IP
03-19-2008, 04:52 PM
And I know it is not Barack Hussein Obama..
If you want four more years of the mess we're currently in, by all means, vote for McCain.
I'm going to vote for the man who can use the president's bully pulpit as a tool for solving this country's problems, rather than making them worse.
N0WVA
03-19-2008, 05:01 PM
Obama is still the most viable candidate. Im sure not voting for Hillary, I dont like having health care crammed down my throat. And McCain is just more of the good ole boys we have had for the last 28 years.
n2ize
03-19-2008, 05:02 PM
Thowing grandma under the wheels is nothing to this guy. Obama is not much more than a modern day huckster selling “cure all medicine” out the back of his wagon. People are just head over heals for reasons of guilt or the fact that they see him as modern day utopian savior. Such statements as “he’s just right for the country”, or “the people need to hear a different message” all allude to this mania. Obama is selling tap water as magic elixir and he has no shortage of dupes thrusting dollars bills for his cure all. Check out his policies on his web site and what you find are vague statements and recyled hard left economic policies. The only thing missing here is the organ music in the background while he makes his pitches.
Obama has instilled a vision and a sense of direction in America. He has already done a great job in uniting America. The verdict is clear.., Obama will be a great president because he has alreay done a great job merely trrying to run for president. Obama has brought our nation back together.
As only Ann can tell it.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=59377
KD6NIG
03-20-2008, 02:08 AM
Obama has instilled a vision and a sense of direction in America. He has already done a great job in uniting America. The verdict is clear.., Obama will be a great president because he has alreay done a great job merely trrying to run for president. Obama has brought our nation back together.
If he can wave his hand and drop gas prices a buck, and diesel prices a buck fifty, then maybe I'll share your vision.
Until then, I think I and many others aren't going to be persuaded this easily.
And I personally think that thus far the campaign for this presidency has been a total crock. Perhaps if I was a fan of Jerry Springer I might find this entertaining. The fact is, we're watching people run for the highest office in the land, not people on an island sniping each other to win a million dollars.
I hate reality TV. The fact that this campaign is actually reality is quite sickening, in my view. The only people chortling with glee are the news outlets selling advertising and selling newspapers.
The only thing scarier is the fact people are donating money to this circus that is this presidential race.
With the economy going the way it is though, we'll see if it keeps up.
Obama has brought our nation back together.
Only about 1/8 of the nation.
About 1/2 of the democrats have or will vote for Hillary. There are almost as many Republicians as Democrats and the other 1/3 are Independents like me. What I heard in his speech convinced me he is just a slick politician who tells what lies he needs to gain votes. Might as well vote for Hillary.
McCain at least is a maverick in his own party, unlike the other two. That is his most saving grace. I still am not convinced what kind of president he would make.
Edit,
Just came across this. Not good news for Obama.
http://www.gallup.com/tag/Election%2b2008.aspx
Cry me a river.....
http://newsbusters.org/node/20012/print
ad4mg
03-21-2008, 12:01 PM
Cry me a river.....
http://newsbusters.org/node/20012/print
P.J. Gladnick, isn't he the raving lunatic of the fringe right who never recovered from his hatred of Clinton?
A fine, unbiased source, that is, of course, if you're a mindless moron who sucks up every word of an uber right-wing BLOG, written by an idiot who can't grow up.
Another perfect example of the HATRED emanating from the extreme right.
I still find it incredible that a grown man allows himself to be influenced by garbage written by mindless little bed-wetters like this POS, much less proudly link to it for all to see.
K8YZK
03-21-2008, 02:02 PM
"I'm going to vote for the man who can use the president's bully pulpit as a tool for solving this country's problems, rather than making them worse."
Did he learn how from his Pastor/Mentor Wright?
AE6IP
03-21-2008, 05:50 PM
"I'm going to vote for the man who can use the president's bully pulpit as a tool for solving this country's problems, rather than making them worse."
Did he learn how from his Pastor/Mentor Wright?
If you'd actually read his speech, you'd know the answer to that question: He's gone in a positive direction far beyond whatever he learned from Wright. My condolence to you on your inability to do so.
K8YZK
03-21-2008, 08:43 PM
Marty no matter what I say or what you say is going to change our opinions/views on Obama.
I do not agree with yours and so be it, but has stated in another post, I would fight to make sure you have the right to voice you views.
As far as this post and the other one, I am done with them. The following weeks and months will for sure be very interesting.
DONE
Kurt
Oh well.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/21/the-last-obama-post-of-the-week-hopefully/?print=1
Krauthammer nails it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/questions_for_obama_1.html
The rest of us now should have the courage to take Obama at his word and decide whether it is acceptable to elect as POTUS someone who carries Rev. Wright around as part of him, and who takes his ranting seriously.
73.
As much as I find Wright's comments controversial, just what did he say that was so bad? Quotes please.
OTOH, the same people here complaining about Wright were nowhere to be seen on these McCain threads. Mind you McCain not only didn't care about the creeps he's getting endorsed from, but those crying here barely made an appearance in these threads. I suppose it's okay if you're all-White hm?
McCain and his friend the Hater. (http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=156082)
And they had literally NOTHING to say about this one:
Destroy the "False Religion". (http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=156084)
I suppose we are all used to the bigoted hypocrisy of the NeoKKons. They just want to engage in debate. On their terms.
;):cool:
KA8NCR
03-22-2008, 04:25 PM
Although Obama's speech is not without its evasions, I consider it politically courageous. He has refused to walk away from Wright's black liberation theology when it might well have been expedient to do so. Personally, this was, probably, not too smart.
I have to agree.
Do you know why he refused to walk away? Because he's not willing to dismiss the elephant in the room. He's holding true to a personal conviction that racism *still* exists in this country, that racism is not confined to whites on black and that this country has a LONG way to go.
I think overall, most people are not racist. But I bet that are many people that don't consider themselves racist because they work and have personal relationships with blacks, the thought of a non-caucasian president is still at best, uncomfortable. And there is the summary, until it's no longer an issue, we have a ways to go.