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AA7BQ
03-15-2008, 12:39 AM
Greetings all,
Today we bring to you a new layout for the QRZ Home Page.
It's been at least 5 years or more since we changed the layout and it has lately become apparent to me that the old layout wasted a lot of valuable space. The new layout puts more information at your fingertips in a single glance. It also brings to light several areas of the website that many users probably didn't even know existed.
Let's give it a try and see how everybody like it!
73,
-fred AA7BQ
kp4jev
03-15-2008, 12:49 AM
GGood Job. I like it. Congratulations
k0yeq
03-15-2008, 12:54 AM
I like it. Just a glance and a lot to pick from.
WE4AU
03-15-2008, 01:18 AM
-fred,
It looks good. Nice and clean.
And thanks for looking at the "Remember Me?" log-in retention
problem I emailed you about last week. It appears to be working
now.
Regards,
-Bruce
M0JFE
03-15-2008, 01:23 AM
Well done looks great a credit to all concerned
John Earnshaw
M0JFE
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KB1NXL
03-15-2008, 01:34 AM
Beautiful! Useful!! Now, if you can get rid of those annoying moving ads that are on the left and right of the screen, PERFECT!!!!
Greetings all,
Today we bring to you a new layout for the QRZ Home Page.
<snip> Let's give it a try and see how everybody like it!
<snip again>
-fred AA7BQ
Fred, The new layout is great. Congrats on a successful site re-do.
Lloyd KO4L
I dunno, I kinda think it sucks (just being honest).
First of all, I liked the old layout, where I'd get summary info along with the story itself. That's how 99% of the news organizations' websites do it. The one I work for and help maintain does it that way. I think that's effective.
Secondly, it doesn't look good on widescreen monitors. There's just this big white space on the sides that looks awful.
Thirdly, just single links makes the site look like DXZone or something, and DXZone looks like one of those websites with a bunch of useless links to spam and other garbage.
Anyway, thanks for your hard work, Fred. I also know it's not my site but I like to tell it as I see it.
wa5znu
03-15-2008, 05:16 AM
How about RSS/ATOM feeds for the sections, listed on the first page?
Then IE7 and Firefox users will get the orange icon on the location bar, and when they click they get a choice of which subsection to subscribe to.
Just stuck this in the head of your home page:
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="QRZ Ham Radio News" href="http://forums.qrz.com/external.php?type=RSS2&forumids=9" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="QRZ Ham Radio Announcements" href="http://forums.qrz.com/external.php?type=RSS2&forumids=15" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="QRZ Ham Radio Questions and Answers" href="http://forums.qrz.com/external.php?type=RSS2&forumids=11" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="QRZ Ham Radio Talk and Opinions" href="http://forums.qrz.com/external.php?type=RSS2&forumids=13" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="QRZ Ham Radio Items For Sale" href="http://forums.qrz.com/external.php?type=RSS2&forumids=7" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="QRZ Ham Radio Items Wanted" href="http://forums.qrz.com/external.php?type=RSS2&forumids=10" />
<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="QRZ Ham Radio Skeds" href="http://forums.qrz.com/external.php?type=RSS2&forumids=28" />
...
Just put in them all and they will show up in a list.
KQ6XA
03-15-2008, 05:17 AM
Hi Fred,
Sorry, I don't like the new format.
It seems like a link page or a run-of-the-mill blog site now, instead of The Most Interesting and Popular Ham Radio Website in the World that QRZ has been.
Yes, as you say, the old format wasted a lot of space.
But it had an incredibly huge human interest factor.
Perhaps some sort a hybrid of your new and your old format would be a winner for you... the most recent 3 or 4 news stories could have very small summaries to entice the reader and provide that human interest again. Also, what about the possibility of moving your right side box of thumbnail image from users' pages to somewhere in the middle column, and expanding it to a little box of 4 different images, instead of just one. This would create more human interest. Also, images that appear in topics in the forums could randomly turn up adjacent to the links to those forums. (I realize this may take some rather creative programming to pull off). The rest of the home page could just be hyperlinks like your new format is now.
QRZ is a lot of things to a lot of people... but the home page is like a ham radio newspaper, and some of the same techniques that newspapers have tried and proven are applicable to it. The aspect of reader habits and importance of the space "above the fold" still applies... on the web, this equates to the fact that most people rarely click-through unless they read something that interests them, and they are reluctant to scroll.
AJ4AE
03-15-2008, 06:15 AM
Fine business OM, easy on the eyes. Its good to see a much needed change.
kb3laz
03-15-2008, 07:34 AM
Well its usable, but I have to say I like the old layout better.
But then again when you get use to something change seems bad.
Maybe it will grow on me.
VK2AKG
03-15-2008, 09:18 AM
a real improvement. Thank you.
ww5rm
03-15-2008, 09:47 AM
Awesome Job!!! I Love It!!!! You can see so much more than before with this layout and if you want the details of each topic just click on it. And organized too! Gosh how could anyone not like it? Those who don't are in the slow lane HI HI. Watch out as we fly by you like a Rabbit. Yeah I know the slow consistent one still wins the race. OH well I love it!!
73 DE NØUYX
5WPM EXTRA CLASS OP
Randall
W4INF
03-15-2008, 10:35 AM
Looks better, easier to navigate, TU.
73-
Andrew
k0bca
03-15-2008, 10:49 AM
I think it's terrible. What was once a nice "cozy" site now looks just plain sterile. Whats worse is that no matter where you go now, you've got those damn flashing and moving ads that are so annoying. Anything for a buck, eh Fred??? I guess I'll be a-movin' on. Randall Daggett--k0bca.
N0MLR
03-15-2008, 11:40 AM
Hi Fred
I respect all the work you have put in but.....
The New Layout is just to busy. Kinda makes my eyes water just reading it. The old layout in my opinion was easier to read and at a glance you could see what interested you and what didn't. Now you have to read about every line to get the same information.
Eham has a similar layout and thats why I prefered QRZ.
Thanks
Greg
ab8ma
03-15-2008, 12:18 PM
I had to change My homepage from www.qrz.com/site.html to www.qrz.com to see it. Really nice! Thanks for all the hard work you have put into this site tha past few months.
Fred,
This new format looks good to me! It really does greatly increase the amount of information available on the homepage. It will make the casual visitor better aware of the full dynamics of the site. Only thing I'd like to see would be a softer background color for the forum topic listings. Thanks again for a great job! :D
Apparently the problem isn't solved.
Fred - always thinking, always trying to improve.
The effort to place more on the home page is understood, but the vertical layout used in this initial release does not do the site justice.
You mention in your announcement that the new layout, "...brings to light several areas of the website that many users probably didn't even know existed."
Are these areas being brought to light now because the site visitor must scroll-scroll-scroll down the page to view different article/posting titles, which then exposes them to site areas represented by links on the left side of the home page that have always been there, but might have gone unnoticed in the past?
If this is so, then lack of exposure to those links in the past begs for a more comprehensive redesign of the home page so those areas get better placement. Forcing vertical scrolling is not the answer.
If my interpretation of your statement is wrong, please help me understand what I misinterpreted.
I do think you are on to something by making more content available on the home page at one time. However, this layout will require more time and user input to evolve. Hopefully you will continue to receive constructive feedback from loyal QRZ.com users to help with that evolution.
Best of luck Fred. And thank you for all you do.
Jason - NF6E
P.S. If you do end up keeping this format, please consider the inclusion of posting dates for the articles featured on the home page.
Fred,
I like it. I'm viewing in 1440 X 900 (22" widescreen) and it's much less cluttered visually. Much easier to find links and features, and I have to say I enjoy the ads. I like to read about new equipment and new publications, so I click the ads and visit your sponsors all the time.
Nice job!
Brian
KE7JFA
03-15-2008, 02:55 PM
I think it sux too. The whole new upgrade has been horrible.
KA1SAW
03-15-2008, 03:12 PM
Great Job with the page layout. I like it a lot. Keep up the Good Work.
KA5LQJ
03-15-2008, 03:28 PM
Hi Fred, All,
I musta not had enough Hello World Cajun cowboy Sock kawphy this morning when I logged on. I kept waiting for it to change to the old format, ha ha ha. Anyway, I like the new look. Thanks & Congratulations on keeping QRZ looking and working great.
Well, the weather is GORGEOUS out there today. Sunny, warm, low humidity, slight breeze. Going to be in the mid-70's. I think I'll go out in the yard and just trim some limbs and bushes and may even cut the back yard. That is if I can get the mower started from last year, Hi hi.
Respectfully,
73,
Don/KA5-LQJ
n3jbh
03-15-2008, 03:34 PM
Sorry Fred but i at least liked the way before that it gave you a idea what the article was. This way just looks to much like a click the link type a thing.
I guess while i am on my soap box here i wish you kept the pictures in the ad's on the sale forum too. Not that it is a bad thing to sign in to see the pictures but some of us maybe just want to pop in look over the goods and pop back out with out signing in.
So please do not take what i am saying as a bunch a sour grapes. but the old way was great.Hey thanks for the great site and service though. Jeff
Greetings all,
Today we bring to you a new layout for the QRZ Home Page.
It's been at least 5 years or more since we changed the layout and it has lately become apparent to me that the old layout wasted a lot of valuable space. The new layout puts more information at your fingertips in a single glance. It also brings to light several areas of the website that many users probably didn't even know existed.
Let's give it a try and see how everybody like it!
73,
-fred AA7BQ
Excellent work and makes for a very easy read for a lot of information. David
KD8FQM
03-15-2008, 03:51 PM
Since we are talking about the layout of the site, one annoyance that I have is when I go to the forums, there isn't an easy way to navigate back to the main screen (home page). Unless it's there someplace and I just haven't found it yet. All I see is the button for "Main Forum". Thanks for a great site otherwise.
Robert Carr KD8FQM
w5alt
03-15-2008, 03:58 PM
For an honest opinion, I liked the old format better where I could see a little about the News articles right up front. I probably won't be looking at much of the News from now on, unless the title especially attracts attention. In the old format, even if the title was mundane, quite often the first sentence or two grabbed my attention. No more.
73,
Walt, W5ALT
KD0BRD
03-15-2008, 04:18 PM
It's great! I like having the newest post from each forum on the home page. Only one wish: It would be very nice if you added a short (2-3 line) snippet from the news article that is linked to. That will help me decide if I want to read it or not.
Great job, Fred!
Isaac
VE2CU
03-15-2008, 04:28 PM
Simply put, LOVELY. Much easier & quicker to jump to specific subjects. Thanks a million for your continued efforts, Michel
N2JBA
03-15-2008, 05:11 PM
Greetings all,
Today we bring to you a new layout for the QRZ Home Page.
It's been at least 5 years or more since we changed the layout and it has lately become apparent to me that the old layout wasted a lot of valuable space. The new layout puts more information at your fingertips in a single glance. It also brings to light several areas of the website that many users probably didn't even know existed.
Let's give it a try and see how everybody like it!
73,
-fred AA7BQ
Hi Fred: Excellent job and thanks for making QRZ a reliable amateur radio standard.
To those naysayers, I think they should go elsewhere.
73
Ed N2JBA
KE4YHR
03-15-2008, 05:13 PM
I just wanted to let you know that I like it, son.
W0LPQ
03-15-2008, 05:21 PM
Looks good, but have to agree with Walt ... a couple of sentences in the old format was enough to either look or pass it by.
It;s ok I guess, but really, what was wrong with the old one? I think if I had to chose, I prefer the old one, and btw, the flashing ads appear to the subscribers also.
k6spq
03-15-2008, 06:47 PM
I like the new format. I do not see any animated ads because I use a program to stop them. It also stops popups,popunders and many other annoyances and can be programmed for the users preferences. There are several programs available for this and the one I use is called PopUpCop. Thanks for all your good work Fred. 73-Bill
dl7om
03-15-2008, 07:09 PM
hallo bob es tnx fer qrz.com __..__
73 es gb from georg moog dl7om in west berlin tnx es gb de dl7om ..._eT
KE4YD
03-15-2008, 07:11 PM
Sorry, but I don't like it. Page is to busy and a strain on these old eyes. I know you do a lot of work on this site and it is greatly appreciated. But I really like the old layout better.
As a wise man once said "Change is fine, as long as I don't have to do anything different". (me)
Thanks for you efforts.
ac0iv
03-15-2008, 07:13 PM
I like it!
A71AN
03-15-2008, 07:52 PM
Greetings all,
Today we bring to you a new layout for the QRZ Home Page.
It's been at least 5 years or more since we changed the layout and it has lately become apparent to me that the old layout wasted a lot of valuable space. The new layout puts more information at your fingertips in a single glance. It also brings to light several areas of the website that many users probably didn't even know existed.
Let's give it a try and see how everybody like it!
73,
-fred AA7BQ
When there is a change, there is some one doing active work, thank you
AA7BQ
03-15-2008, 07:56 PM
Fred - always thinking, always trying to improve.
The effort to place more on the home page is understood, but the vertical layout used in this initial release does not do the site justice.
You mention in your announcement that the new layout, "...brings to light several areas of the website that many users probably didn't even know existed."
Are these areas being brought to light now because the site visitor must scroll-scroll-scroll down the page to view different article/posting titles, which then exposes them to site areas represented by links on the left side of the home page that have always been there, but might have gone unnoticed in the past?
If this is so, then lack of exposure to those links in the past begs for a more comprehensive redesign of the home page so those areas get better placement. Forcing vertical scrolling is not the answer.
If my interpretation of your statement is wrong, please help me understand what I misinterpreted.
Jason - NF6E
P.S. If you do end up keeping this format, please consider the inclusion of posting dates for the articles featured on the home page.
So what you're saying is that presenting the info without forcing vertical scrolling is better. Well, the new format presents significantly more article header information on the first "above the fold" view. The old format showed at most 4 or five article teasers before forcing a scroll.
I will add the date info on the headers - thanks.
-fred
KB1IAI
03-15-2008, 08:10 PM
hi fred. i realize that in the past year you have put a lot of work into your site. i like it it really. but this addition is a mistake. it looks like a third class blogger site now. i liked the front page the way it was. easier to search from. if it was up to me, i would stop the blinking ads. they give me a headache. faster is better, your t2 connection really tripped my trigger. thanks for all the work.
73 paul kb1iai
N9MOQ
03-15-2008, 08:46 PM
I think I may like the way it used to be before too, although it has already changed since I looked yesterday, so perhaps it is going back closer to the way it was.
Here is what is really more important of an issue, in my opinion...
It is annoying to me to have to scoll from side to side when reading posts here, and I wish the programing could be done so that the window fits into everyone's computer screens like many other websites do.
Changing the resolution on my screen to the next available setting makes the words way too small to read, so that is not an option.
Interesting to note, is that if the ads were on the right hand side, instead of the left hand side, I wouldn't have to scroll to read most of the posts, I just wouldn't be able to see the ads.
As it is, as soon as I scroll all the way to the right, the ads are cut off anyway, but if they were on the other side, I wouldn't have to scroll at all, most of the text would be in view as soon as the page opened.
But on some threads, where someone has included a large photo or something, then scrolling has to be done for each line of text read, because sliding it over to the right isn't good enough, as it is for most threads.
The front page of QRZ.com is interesting, in that it didn't USED to have a scroll bar on the front page, and now I see it does. If I scroll to the right, it is just blank white area, so I don't need to scroll there to see anything, everyting is within the screen on the front page, but the scroll bar shouldn't be there.
The regular QRZ.com page used to fit perfectly in my screen, and the front forum pages too, it is just when you get into a thread to start reading posts, that I have to use the bottom scroll bar to be able to see everything.
AA7BQ
03-15-2008, 08:49 PM
Dare I say that some of you guys can be a bit harsh at times? The opinions on the new changes are running tighter than the Clinton / Obama race.
For the record, I've never made a change on this site that didn't stir up a rush of negative complaints. And for those of you who used the word "sucks" to describe my most recent work, thanks a lot. That's what I call the essence of insightful, constructive criticism.
Exactly what is a "third rate blog site" anyway? I have to bite my tongue on that one or risk breaking QRZ's rules of acceptable content in my response. Here's another factoid: about 80% of all QRZ access ignores our forums completely. Our callsign database is and has always been the overwhelming favorite feature of the site. My sense is that "third rate blog sites" are put into that position by those writing the blogs and not those providing the platform.
And then there was K0BCA who indicated that I'd "do anything for a buck". Well, actually, no. But I will do what it takes to keep food on the table. QRZ isn't just a hobby for me, it's my livelihood. The advertising revenue is essential. The ads are easy for any user to remove for just $20 per year and that covers every page on the site except for the home page.
So, it is with mixed emotions that I've restored the old format, AND I've added a "Headlines" link at the top of the page that points to the new format. My heartfelt thanks goes out to all of those who encouraged and appreciated the new format.
Incidentally, many of you will be interested to know that I'm working hard on a new version of the online callsign database. It's been quite a project and it will add a bunch of new features that I'm sure many folks will also say "sucks". On the other hand, for those of you who realize and appreciate that technology and innovation only go in the forward direction, the new features will be very exciting. I should probably write a separate article about it and get some advance feedback on the new features. I'll whet your whistle on a few of them here. The new callsign database will add the following:
Full HTML editing by the user employing a WSIWYG editor similar to the one recently made available on these forums.
Unlimited image uploads per callsign
Multi-column, multi-row biography layouts
Color, font, font-size, background color, and CSS Stylesheet support
Simple enough for anyone to use
Predefined templates for "fancy" user pages
A "buddy list" feature
Support for additional data fields such as ITU Zone, CQ Zone, and othersThat's all for now. Sorry to rant but I guess I couldn't hold my tongue after all!
73,
-fred
kb3afz
03-15-2008, 08:58 PM
I haven't noticed a change only last night the articles looked different, but today it was back the way I originally saw it. What was the change? What I saw last night? If that was it, I didn't care for it to much. I know a friend of mine had trouble logging in and resetting password and I was on the phone with him last night as I was talking him through the site form my end, we both noticed the changes and neither of us was impressed by the way you have the site set up to change passwords and information. Not to say your not doing an exceptional job on this site, because you are. Just maybe a few areas need to be a bit easier to navigate, and get personal profiles edited. One thing that sticks in my mind, is the different things a person needs to edit in their profile and they are hidden here and there, and you have to dig all through a page to find them. The ULS pages within the FCC's pages are that way. makes it rather frustrating clicking on 3 or 4 links just to get to one place to make a change. Maybe some work could be done there???? Just throwing out examples. this site is definately awesome and keep up the good work. I am sure you spend a lot of time with it, and your doing a wonderful job thus far. I also agree with the other fellow about the blinking ads...GRRRRR LOL Not pleasing to older eyes.
Thanks Fred for all you do here.
KB3AFZ
KD0BRD
03-15-2008, 09:08 PM
We were a bit harsh, weren't we. I dunno. It seems like what you've done is for the best. When you first changed the forum, I didn't like it as much. But now that I've used it for a while, I've come to understand that it really is (at least for me) better. I'm guessing it would have been the same with the new front page.
Also, just for the record, the adverts are not a problem at all. In fact, I kinda like them there. It give the site a much more "alive" feeling. (If that makes any sense :D)
Thank you for everything that you do, Fred. I understand that this is how you make a living, and that you probably could make more money somewhere else. But, you choose to run this site.
Thanks, Fred!:)
Isaac
PS. About the problems that everyone is citing about the horizontal scrolling, I'm not sure. It scales fine on my monitor from 800 by 600 all the way to 1600 by 1200.
Dare I say that some of you guys can be a bit harsh at times? The opinions on the new changes are running tighter than the Clinton / Obama race.
For the record, I've never made a change on this site that didn't stir up a rush of negative complaints. And for those of you who used the word "sucks" to describe my most recent work, thanks a lot. That's what I call the essence of insightful, constructive criticism.
Exactly what is a "third rate blog site" anyway? I have to bite my tongue on that one or risk breaking QRZ's rules of acceptable content in my response. Here's another factoid: about 80% of all QRZ access ignores our forums completely. Our callsign database is and has always been the overwhelming favorite feature of the site. My sense is that "third rate blog sites" are put into that position by those writing the blogs and not those providing the platform.
And then there was K0BCA who indicated that I'd "do anything for a buck". Well, actually, no. But I will do what it takes to keep food on the table. QRZ isn't just a hobby for me, it's my livelihood. The advertising revenue is essential. The ads are easy for any user to remove for just $20 per year and that covers every page on the site except for the home page.
So, it is with mixed emotions that I've restored the old format, AND I've added a "Headlines" link at the top of the page that points to the new format. My heartfelt thanks goes out to all of those who encouraged and appreciated the new format.
Incidentally, many of you will be interested to know that I'm working hard on a new version of the online callsign database. It's been quite a project and it will add a bunch of new features that I'm sure many folks will also say "sucks". On the other hand, for those of you who realize and appreciate that technology and innovation only go in the forward direction, the new features will be very exciting. I should probably write a separate article about it and get some advance feedback on the new features. I'll whet your whistle on a few of them here. The new callsign database will add the following:
Full HTML editing by the user employing a WSIWYG editor similar to the one recently made available on these forums.
Unlimited image uploads per callsign
Multi-column, multi-row biography layouts
Color, font, font-size, background color, and CSS Stylesheet support
Simple enough for anyone to use
Predefined templates for "fancy" user pages
A "buddy list" feature
Support for additional data fields such as ITU Zone, CQ Zone, and othersThat's all for now. Sorry to rant but I guess I couldn't hold my tongue after all!
73,
-fred
And for those of you who used the word "sucks" to describe my most recent work, thanks a lot. That's what I call the essence of insightful, constructive criticism.
Whoa there.
I never said I didn't appreciate your work. But honestly I call a spade a spade, and I've told many people that their work "sucks" but that doesn't mean that they themselves are any less of a person. It just means that I don't like the work and it is not to my liking.
And that's just being honest, and I'm a straight up no BS guy and I will tell you like it is and not just tell you what you want to hear.
At my job I do a lot of thumbs up and thumbs down of ideas. I have thumbs downed (and even shot down) what some have considered to be absolutely GREAT ideas, and some of those ideas even come from people many orders of magnitude higher than me in the food chain. Most times I am on the mark, and after soliciting several opinions and even doing a trial of things they are thankful that they didn't waste money on what I deemed to be a dumb idea because it really was a dumb idea. There are of course times that I am wrong and I am willing to admit that. I'm not perfect.
But by all means, Fred, it's your site, and you have the final say.
I apologize if my comments sounded harsh.
And again, thanks for all of your hard work.
Unlimited image uploads per callsign
Well, this is a nice idea, but I don't know how this would work.
If you're going to do that, might I suggest a "shack photo album" in their profile and a link instead of just putting a whole bunch of photos in the profile itself.
If multiple images are allowed, trust me - some hams are going to upload everything including the kitchen sink and make their profile pages 30 pages long with photos, just because.
kb7nmu
03-15-2008, 10:02 PM
I actually liked the new format and found it useful. In my experience a lot of people don't like change but give them a week and they start to find the change useful. I think you may have given up a bit soon.
Fred,
Thanks for the "Headlines" link. It looks like you've managed to come close to pleasing everybody. That's remarkable! :D
I agree. The "Headlines" link is a good compromise.
G3SEA
03-15-2008, 10:47 PM
Just one man's opinion :)
Seems that if one clicks on a swap meet item it is not always on the ' same page ' ( as it used to be ) as the ' swap meet ' list has been extended ?
Mahalo for producing such a wonderful ham site anyway !! These things take lot of work !
KH6/G3SEA
KE7JFA
03-15-2008, 10:49 PM
Thanks. That is MUCH better.
G3SEA
03-15-2008, 11:46 PM
Mahalo Fred :cool:
Re my earlier post :
The Swapmeet list item selection now functions as it formerly did ! :)
KH6/G3SEA
N4PRT
03-16-2008, 12:12 AM
Well, the blue color might make it impossible for someone that is colorblind to see. And the flashing things might make someone with epilepsy or something have a fit and bite their tongue off. Then there is the size of the type that makes everything hard to see, and getting closer to the monitor might make some people drool into the keyboard thus ruining it.
And if the callsign database is changed, won't that screw up the dozens of logbook programs that are leaching off it for info? And what about...:eek:
And if the callsign database is changed, won't that screw up the dozens of logbook programs that are leaching off it for info?
Of course. But there's the XML port for log software, which is what they should be using anyway.
I'm writing my own software using the XML port and it simply rocks.
KB5DRJ
03-16-2008, 12:32 AM
Fred,
Thanks for the hard work on the site. QRZ.com has been my default site in my browsers for years. It would stay that way no matter what you do with the format. :)
I prefer the old format better than the new basically since it looks better on my 20" wide display. I like the flashing ads and use them every time I browse around to make a purchase instead of having to remember a bunch of separate URL's. I also like the multi-line headers and I choose which ad to read based on the header.
Again, thanks for the hard work and I'll continue to use your site regardless of what you do with it. :)
David KB5DRJ
kb3afz
03-16-2008, 01:50 AM
Three Cheers for FRED HIP HIP HIP
WITHOUT THIS SITE WHAT WOULD WE HAVE??? you tube???:rolleyes:
KC0OFZ
03-16-2008, 03:05 AM
Greetings all,
Today we bring to you a new layout for the QRZ Home Page.
It's been at least 5 years or more since we changed the layout and it has lately become apparent to me that the old layout wasted a lot of valuable space. The new layout puts more information at your fingertips in a single glance. It also brings to light several areas of the website that many users probably didn't even know existed.
Let's give it a try and see how everybody like it!
73,
-fred AA7BQ
Looks good Fred.
I am glad it was your web site. I though my computer was going on the blink and would need a good hammering. LOL.
Arend
KD7VOK
03-16-2008, 04:38 AM
Fred,
It looks great right now........please lock it down.
KI6MWS
03-16-2008, 04:49 AM
Fred,
Thank you!
Scott
W0UZR
03-16-2008, 04:53 AM
If it is going to stay this wide, I have to go. With this horrible carpals tunnel I have
and have to scroll back and forth reading every sentence, I cannot do it. And I can't
change my screen resolution and still read it. Need a magnifiying glass. I have a dif-
ferent computer I will be trying out soon, and maybe that will be OK. I donno.
If this is the way it is going to stay, I can't stay. I can't read without scrolling back and
forth.
I appreciate all the work you do though, and it does look nice. I like everything else Fred.
Can you make it just an Little inch narrower? http://www.radioclassifieds.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/Please.gif
Thanks
I like it Fred, Great Job
I guess I am just old fashioned. I liked the old format. To me it was easier to wade around in as a ham op. I believe the old way was better. You asked, I said.
AB8XA
03-16-2008, 01:52 PM
My favorite QRZ bookmark:
http://forums.qrz.com/search.php?do=getdaily
Fred,
I appreciate your efforts in upgrading the site. When it first changed over I had a difficult time with figuring out the changes that were made and how different they were. Presently I am still lukewarm about the changes on the whole as the site still seems a bit alien to me. As I type this I just now noticed that there is a choice of fonts available. I am especially happy that there is a mono space font choice for building data tables. There are probably a lot of enhancements I have not discovered as yet.
I tend to agree with the others as it concerns all of the scrolling and flashing ads being distracting. On the other hand, the site needs to generate revenue in order to keep the business viable.
I have been in the print media business since I started work on my high school newspaper in 1966 and worked also on my college paper. Since then I have been in the newspaper industry. I do know that any time we made changes to the product there would always be a backlash from the readers who do not like any change. Sometimes it is economics that foster the changes.
Publishers cut the size of their product but cutting down the web. I remember 32 and 36 inch webs but now we have cut them down to 25 and 22 inch webs along with decreasing font size. Newspaper have shrunk, on the average of 30% to almost 40%. Because of lack of ROP advertising page totals have fallen almost as much as the webs have shrunk. This has also helped to shrink the audience because there is less content.
I recently gave up on Wired Magazine because of its horribly cluttered layout and the difficulty of navigating through it.
Major changes in product almost always result in less readership because there needs to be a period of adjustment that sometimes put off people who rarely or never return and the best you can hope for is that you attract new readers to replace those who left. Churning readership in printed and online publications are at all time highs.
I am slowly getting used to the changes in QRZ but it has not been an easy transformation for me and I notice that I am not looking or posting as much as I used to.
73
George
K3UD
N1LAF
03-16-2008, 03:32 PM
Three Cheers for FRED HIP HIP HIP
WITHOUT THIS SITE WHAT WOULD WE HAVE??? you tube???:rolleyes:
There is always www.Hamisland.net
w5alt
03-16-2008, 03:32 PM
Dare I say that some of you guys can be a bit harsh at times? The opinions on the new changes are running tighter than the Clinton / Obama race.
...
So, it is with mixed emotions that I've restored the old format, AND I've added a "Headlines" link at the top of the page that points to the new format. My heartfelt thanks goes out to all of those who encouraged and appreciated the new format.
Fred, I apologize if I sounded harsh. You asked for opinions and you got them. I would have gotten used to the new format, if you had decided to stick with it. Either way, thanks for the work you do in maintaining this site. Whether we like everything or not, your efforts are still appreciated.
Actually I figure if you can please about half of us, you've done a tremendous job!
73,
Walt, W5ALT
W4KVW
03-16-2008, 03:42 PM
I PREFER the OLD format MUCH better than the NEW!Just my PREFERENCE & my 2 cents worth.GREAT site still either way.
Clayton
W4KVW
AA7BQ
03-16-2008, 04:55 PM
If it is going to stay this wide, I have to go. With this horrible carpals tunnel I have
and have to scroll back and forth reading every sentence, I cannot do it. And I can't
change my screen resolution and still read it. Need a magnifiying glass. I have a dif-
ferent computer I will be trying out soon, and maybe that will be OK. I donno.
If this is the way it is going to stay, I can't stay. I can't read without scrolling back and
forth.
I appreciate all the work you do though, and it does look nice. I like everything else Fred.
Can you make it just an Little inch narrower? http://www.radioclassifieds.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/Please.gif
Thanks
Okay,
I just completed another layout of the main menu and squeezed out another inch or so (depending on your monitor).
cheers,
-fred
ja1ogs
03-16-2008, 08:50 PM
Wow Fred very nice I love it it looks great !!
73 Art near Tokyo Japan[/QUOTE]
W5UGD
03-16-2008, 08:59 PM
I just completed another layout of the main menu and squeezed out another inch or so (depending on your monitor).
That should help the people who are unhappy...
I like it... :)
73,
W5UGD
W0UZR
03-16-2008, 10:02 PM
Okay,
I just completed another layout of the main menu and squeezed out another inch or so (depending on your monitor).
cheers,
-fred
WoW!!!
Fantastic Fred! Thanks. It didn't have to get narrowed by much. It's narrow enough now. http://www.radioclassifieds.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/ThankYou.gif
KB5DRJ
03-17-2008, 03:53 AM
Nice work Fred, it is looking a lot better!
David KB5DRJ
G0KSC
03-17-2008, 07:17 AM
The same wingers and moaners as always. Don't you guys ever get sick of being that way?
Fred, it looks great. Ignor the guys under the storm clouds..
JJ
m0hem
03-17-2008, 01:06 PM
hi fred
Good Job. I like it. Congratulations
73 john m0hem
wa0yas
03-17-2008, 05:23 PM
:cool: I like the new QRZ.com webpage, the only change I'd like to see is the Ham radio practice test return to thier original format. I honestly believe that the old format was a better way to learn the answers for the various classes of Hamradio tests.
Thanks & 73,
Allen....wa0yas
HB9TLK
03-17-2008, 05:28 PM
I think the best layout change would be to prevent flashing, moving and blinking ads. These type of ads make it impossible to read qrz.com for people with an intact "hunting" vision.
Almost ALL webpages have banned those types of ads, and for a good reason. They drive away traffic, and with this ad revenue falls as well. Pure text ads or not moving or blinking image ads are OK.
I always have to disable gif animation and flash before reading qrz. That is annoying. The other side effect is i never buy from a company with animated ads, but i shure click them a lot to make those companies waste ad money.
KD0BRD
03-17-2008, 09:30 PM
:cool: I like the new QRZ.com webpage, the only change I'd like to see is the Ham radio practice test return to thier original format. I honestly believe that the old format was a better way to learn the answers for the various classes of Hamradio tests.
Thanks & 73,
Allen....wa0yas
I have to agree. I much preferred the old way.
k1lwi
03-18-2008, 03:19 AM
Hello Fred Nice Job 73
Wendell De K1lwi
w0bst
03-18-2008, 11:09 AM
I like it. It would be helpful if we could switch to 'headline' view from the forum home page as well, instead of going first to QRZ Home.