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KG4RRN
03-02-2008, 02:28 AM
Due to over-achiving, control freaks, and retired hams who claim to know it all,:mad: on several ham radio reflectors I subscribe to; I wish to make the following announcement.
I will not be told to control my sentences, grammer, terminology, or any other item I wish to speak of on any reflector I am subscribed to.
The moderator duties are well understood by me, I am a moderator of two groups and I do not restain the right of anyone to freedom of speech. If someone who is a ham radio operator like me who doesn't like me personally, please send me an email at my call at arrl.net. to tell me why I am offending you.
As of the last time I checked, this is a free country, I have not harrassed anyone, threatened anyone, or conducted spamming, on any website, or reflector, I subscribe to, or am a member of. Others have done so against me and this is illegal, and grounds for a lawsuit.
As far as I am aware, the President of the United States has not revoked the Amendments to the Constitution, and specifically the one which guarantees every citizen of this country the right to express themselves in written or verbal means as reasonable in a public forum without constraint, and I will not be further constrained to my right of free speech.
Rumors and innuendo have no place in this hobby/service and I will not stand for it.
I have retained a lawyer, and if this situation continues, he is one phone call away, and then he will be submitting paperwork and the proof on my behalf, to the appropriate offenders' residential jurisdicition Sherriffs' dept., so that they can explain their actions in a court of law.The charging documents will be for harrassment, violation of my right under the first amendment to the Constitution, Spamming without consent/permission, Defamation of my reputation and character.The time for the juvenile behavior is over. Apparently some are slow to grow up.
The guaranteed legal action will include names of corporations, and/or government entities these hams work for, or naming their property, if they allow this type of illegal activity to emminate from said agencies or corporations/locations of residence.
Both violations of Federal and state law against me, and generally the law, are occurring here folks.
It is time for all of the mentioned activities to S-T-O-P.
Let this be your only warning. You know who you are--- and I will not give you any further warnings. I will not go quietly into the night.
/s/ Robert A. Rice, KG4RRN
McLean, Virginia
03/01/08

K8ERV
03-02-2008, 04:15 PM
Can you type that a bit more slowly? I don't read so fast--

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

kq9j
03-02-2008, 04:36 PM
And I thought I woke up in a pissy mood today :)

K5RCD
03-02-2008, 04:42 PM
UUUH, Bob (KG4RRN):

You might try this.
It will make you feel better.
Really.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/31I6HiD3ChL._AA280_.jpg

K3XR
03-02-2008, 04:50 PM
Let me see if I understand this......I will sue you if you dare infringe on my free speech rights by using your free speech rights. Let me think about that for a bit.

n0ov
03-02-2008, 04:52 PM
So what is the short version

K1VSK
03-02-2008, 05:00 PM
this appears typical of a common malady - the brain isn't connected to the typing fingers

k6pme
03-02-2008, 05:11 PM
Due to over-achiving, control freaks, and retired hams who claim to know it all,:mad: on several ham radio reflectors I subscribe to; I wish to make the following announcement.
I will not be told to control my sentences, grammer, terminology, or any other item I wish to speak of on any reflector I am subscribed to.
The moderator duties are well understood by me, I am a moderator of two groups and I do not restain the right of anyone to freedom of speech. If someone who is a ham radio operator like me who doesn't like me personally, please send me an email at my call at arrl.net. to tell me why I am offending you.
As of the last time I checked, this is a free country, I have not harrassed anyone, threatened anyone, or conducted spamming, on any website, or reflector, I subscribe to, or am a member of. Others have done so against me and this is illegal, and grounds for a lawsuit.
As far as I am aware, the President of the United States has not revoked the Amendments to the Constitution, and specifically the one which guarantees every citizen of this country the right to express themselves in written or verbal means as reasonable in a public forum without constraint, and I will not be further constrained to my right of free speech.
Rumors and innuendo have no place in this hobby/service and I will not stand for it.
I have retained a lawyer, and if this situation continues, he is one phone call away, and then he will be submitting paperwork and the proof on my behalf, to the appropriate offenders' residential jurisdicition Sherriffs' dept., so that they can explain their actions in a court of law.The charging documents will be for harrassment, violation of my right under the first amendment to the Constitution, Spamming without consent/permission, Defamation of my reputation and character.The time for the juvenile behavior is over. Apparently some are slow to grow up.
The guaranteed legal action will include names of corporations, and/or government entities these hams work for, or naming their property, if they allow this type of illegal activity to emminate from said agencies or corporations/locations of residence.
Both violations of Federal and state law against me, and generally the law, are occurring here folks.
It is time for all of the mentioned activities to S-T-O-P.
Let this be your only warning. You know who you are--- and I will not give you any further warnings. I will not go quietly into the night.
/s/ Robert A. Rice, KG4RRN
McLean, Virginia
03/01/08

I'm not quite sure that I fully understand your drift here. Are you upset with someone?

ad4mg
03-02-2008, 05:51 PM
When you joined this site, you were instructed to read the terms of service. They pretty much null and void everything you have offered in your post above.

None of the rights you speak of are protected on private property. QRZ is privately owned, and therefore, private property. You are granted posting privileges because you agreed to those terms of service when you registered. You really should speak to your legal adviser about this. I'm sure he/she will set the record straight for you.

I have no affiliation with QRZ other than being a member. I'm sharing this with you because all of this cannot possibly lead to any good for anyone.

If you have a beef with one or more members here, drop a PM or email to one of the administrators or moderators about the problem. I think you will find them most receptive to helping you find a solution to any problems. I may not agree with these guys and gals all the time, but none have ever refused any reasonable request for assistance, or advice to clarify a matter.

Overall, this site is well run, and your accusations hint that there are legal matters involved. I think, in this regard, they would be more than eager to help.

I hope whatever the problem is gets resolved.

73 - Luke

W0MT
03-02-2008, 06:29 PM
KG4RNN,

From the tone of your rant, it seems that you think that your First Amendment rights mean no one can limit your "freedom" to speak your mind at any time, at any place, and on any subject. You might try reading the First Amendment as it does not say anything like that. Last time I looked it says (in part), "Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech."

The courts have repeatedly said that the rights and privileges of the Constitution are NOT absolute rights and that the rights need to be balanced against one another and against public safety and welfare. For example, laws making it illegal to make a false police report are legal. Same goes for libel, slander, threats to do bodily harm, to name just a few laws that abridge freedom of speech.

And of course, forums such as QRZ can limit your freedom of speech all they want. So can your employer or any other private entity. These are not operated by Congress and therefore your First Amendment rights do not apply.

If you wish to make that phone call to your attorney as I have criticized you, be my guest.

WA4TM
03-02-2008, 06:46 PM
:D :D Dang, I think someone pissed him off!! :D :D

w2amr
03-02-2008, 07:58 PM
If you spent this much time studying for your general...............

PA5COR
03-02-2008, 08:01 PM
Since you are an moderator on other forum(s) why are you needed there?
To delete or change posts others make that didn't make the rules of the board(s) you moderate?
Also then YOU are in breach of the first amendment you are so proud off..

As stated above you agreed to the rules here and that can and will limit your right of free speech.

As admin on another board i see it is sometimes difficult to get good moderators, i see more boards have that problem it seems...

Brilliantly you claim the right of free speech and deny it to others....

But what do i know as foreighner...;)

KA8NCR
03-02-2008, 08:02 PM
If you spent this much time studying for your general...............


Snappy vest though, wouldn't you say?

K8MHZ
03-02-2008, 08:04 PM
At least he has a day named after him:

Date of Birth

April 1, 1962

:D:D

K8ERV
03-02-2008, 08:08 PM
I only read the first half, then hit the mute button.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

K8MHZ
03-02-2008, 08:12 PM
I wonder if he made his 10 meter contact using FM??? :confused:

w2amr
03-02-2008, 08:28 PM
UUUH, Bob (KG4RRN):

You might try this.
It will make you feel better.
Really.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/31I6HiD3ChL._AA280_.jpg

Good advise LMAO :D:D

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03-02-2008, 08:47 PM
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WA6MHZ
03-02-2008, 08:53 PM
This one is easy to answer, only takes THREE LETTERS!!!


W T F ??????


Oh yes, some question marks too.

k5phw
03-02-2008, 08:58 PM
@RNN: Unbunch panties. We don't care. :rolleyes:

N1LAF
03-02-2008, 09:03 PM
When you joined this site, you were instructed to read the terms of service. They pretty much null and void everything you have offered in your post above.

None of the rights you speak of are protected on private property. QRZ is privately owned, and therefore, private property. You are granted posting privileges because you agreed to those terms of service when you registered. You really should speak to your legal adviser about this. I'm sure he/she will set the record straight for you.

I have no affiliation with QRZ other than being a member. I'm sharing this with you because all of this cannot possibly lead to any good for anyone.

If you have a beef with one or more members here, drop a PM or email to one of the administrators or moderators about the problem. I think you will find them most receptive to helping you find a solution to any problems. I may not agree with these guys and gals all the time, but none have ever refused any reasonable request for assistance, or advice to clarify a matter.

Overall, this site is well run, and your accusations hint that there are legal matters involved. I think, in this regard, they would be more than eager to help.

I hope whatever the problem is gets resolved.

73 - Luke

Luke, Great post, you are dead on right. I had to do a little research to see if this was a joke or not. Looks like this character is not kidding. A post like that is like a neon sign saying "I dare you".

One of the side affects of public free speech, is to expect opposing speech, stuff that may not be so comfortable. Thats why I find it so strange for folks who scream free speech, are also intolerant of others expressions, as illustrated from his website, http://www.geocities.com/kg4rrn/ , where he complains about being squelched, then follows with this line "If others try to denounce this, they too may face legal action". See what I mean.

Luke, I know you are a moderator/admin of a fellow ham site, www.hamisland.net, so you may be familiar to this kind of behavior, and if so, has it gone farther than idle threats?

For every free speech, there is opposing free speech. If you can't take it, don't spout it. know what I mean?

Just for the record, I reserve my right to express opposing free speech rights within the guideline set forth by the owners of this private forum whom has given me the privilege to participate.

-------
General note, in my opinion, I would not write to strangers, you never know if such gesture of kindness will be thrown back at you.

NR7J
03-02-2008, 09:03 PM
I'll tell you "W T F" When you have gas and you hold it in, the gas travels up the spine and lodges in the brain and that's when you get s h .... statements to write.



This one is easy to answer, only takes THREE LETTERS!!!


W T F ??????


Oh yes, some question marks too.

KI4PEQ
03-02-2008, 09:08 PM
This one is easy to answer, only takes THREE LETTERS!!!


W T F ??????


Oh yes, some question marks too.


If you are a military man, you forgot a letter.

W T F O


As for the OP. he's got his head stuck in his alimentary canal. He doesn't like the rules here, he shouldn't let the virtual doorknob hit him in the hind end when he exits. It never pays to argue or pick a fight with a person who buys ink by the barrel or who maintains a server farm to run an internet forum. They always win, and rightfully so.. But he will learn this soon enough.:D

KB3LIX
03-02-2008, 09:19 PM
HORSE HOCKEY !!!

I love to witness someone winning the Bravo Sierra of the WEEK award......

We have a winner !!!

Ding, Ding, Ding !!!!

(Lights flash and bells ring )

ad4mg
03-02-2008, 09:32 PM
Luke, Great post, you are dead on right. I had to do a little research to see if this was a joke or not. Looks like this character is not kidding. A post like that is like a neon sign saying "I dare you".

One of the side affects of public free speech, is to expect opposing speech, stuff that may not be so comfortable. Thats why I find it so strange for folks who scream free speech, are also intolerant of others expressions, as illustrated from his website, http://www.geocities.com/kg4rrn/ , where he complains about being squelched, then follows with this line "If others try to denounce this, they too may face legal action". See what I mean.

Luke, I know you are a moderator/admin of a fellow ham site, www.hamisland.net, so you may be familiar to this kind of behavior, and if so, has it gone farther than idle threats?

For every free speech, there is opposing free speech. If you can't take it, don't spout it. know what I mean?

Just for the record, I reserve my right to express opposing free speech rights within the guideline set forth by the owners of this private forum whom has given me the privilege to participate.

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General note, in my opinion, I would not write to strangers, you never know if such gesture of kindness will be thrown back at you.

Hey Paul! Fortunately, we've had only a couple of empty threats there. Those issuing the threats failed to act on them.

I suppose at some point in time, someone will seek relief from some perceived injustice done them in the form of a lawsuit against an administrator and/or moderator, in addition to the site owner. It's almost a given that it will eventually happen, especially given the litigious nature of our society.

I hoped that the message I offered him would save him a few pennies in legal fees. I have no idea as to what the "bee in his bonnet" is. I poked around a little here, and noticed nothing unusual.

I see the thread is getting more interesting as it matures. I had a feeling this one would become a real hum-dinger before it ended.

I wonder if popcorn would be appropriate at this time? :)

N1LAF
03-02-2008, 09:35 PM
Luke, make mine homestyle (pop secret)

By the way, it was this thread that inspired by signature.

kc5chm
03-02-2008, 09:43 PM
You might consider taking time to relax ..... might be a cure for your issue!

ae4fa
03-02-2008, 10:05 PM
Unbunch panties. We don't care
I can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly don't care.

RRF:

Stop everything. Don't speak, don't type.

Take a deep breath - slowly in and out.

Again.

Imagine the most beautiful place you can.

Go there in your mind.

And, most importantly,












Don't come back.

ae4fa
03-02-2008, 10:11 PM
Make that RRN.

The edit feature dosn't seem to be working.

KC9JIQ
03-02-2008, 10:28 PM
HORSE HOCKEY !!!

I love to witness someone winning the Bravo Sierra of the WEEK award......

We have a winner !!!

Ding, Ding, Ding !!!!

(Lights flash and bells ring )

Chicken Pucket!!

And Johnny, tell him about the secret prizes!!!

K8ERV
03-02-2008, 11:45 PM
You gotta admit he got everyone's attention---

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

KD4LEI
03-03-2008, 12:33 AM
Who has been pounding their fist about suppression of their free speech rights being violated, is a moderator on another site and such? May frequent a certain 20m freq?

I smell a troll and the callsign of the individual in question may not be the person who it belongs to trying to post on here.

I could be way off on this, but something doesn't sound right about this rant. Explains why a lot of us have the ??? floating above our heads reading it.

KD8HMO
03-03-2008, 12:39 AM
The nice thing about the 1st amendment and the internet is that if you arent happy with the way a forum is run, you are free to start your own forum. If you can afford two or three packs of cigarettes, you can afford to register a domain name and start a forum as I just did with www.NoCodeHams.Net.

kf6rdn
03-03-2008, 12:49 AM
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z24/ns-mymyspacelayouts/youtube-star-chris-crocker-glitter.gif

K1CJS
03-03-2008, 01:00 AM
.....You're telling us you have your rights and will hire an attourney to protect them. All well and good, but we have those same rights--so what does it come down to? A pi$$ing contest to see who will follow up on threats? Sorry, but there are other ways to conduct oneself on sites such as this--more mature ways.

Try using the ignore feature. Bypass the reply you don't like. Ignore the poster. See, there are other ways. On the radio you turn the big dial.

I think Will Rogers said it best: Yes, you have the right to swing your fist. BUT, that right ends where my nose begins.

73 all!

wa8rti
03-03-2008, 01:06 AM
Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes said something to the effect that freedom of speech did not include the right to cry fire in a crowded theater. It never has been an absolute right.

n9yb
03-03-2008, 03:10 AM
As far as I am aware, the President of the United States has not revoked the Amendments to the Constitution, and specifically the one which guarantees every citizen of this country the right to express themselves in written or verbal means as reasonable in a public forum without constraint, and I will not be further constrained to my right of free speech.



Lordy lordy...

The Constitution and its Amendments are a contract between the Federal Government and the governed not between one citizen and a private entity (QRZ.com).

QRZ.com is not a public forum. As noted, users are subject to the terms of service.

N1LAF
03-03-2008, 03:14 AM
Because of the irony of the situation, I cannot help myself...

It's 'grammar', not 'grammer'

KD4LEI
03-03-2008, 03:15 AM
This guy might be legit, but to say you have a right to say what you want no matter what site or forum is not for him to say and solely what the moderators determine.

N7RJD
03-03-2008, 03:27 AM
It seems to me a high percentage of these threats to sue people on these forums come from Virginia. Is McLean near or downwind from Mechanicsville? It could be something in the air or water.

KD4LEI
03-03-2008, 03:35 AM
It seems to me a high percentage of these threats to sue people on these forums come from Virginia. Is McLean near or downwind from Mechanicsville? It could be something in the air or water.

and Fairfax is a suburb (on the Virginia side) of DC... They are in the same county

KL1ZB
03-03-2008, 05:29 AM
This guy might be legit, but to say you have a right to say what you want no matter what site or forum is not for him to say and solely what the moderators determine.

o, no's!!! He is going to sue you now!!!! :D

KL1ZB
03-03-2008, 05:32 AM
Due to over-achiving, control freaks, and retired hams who claim to know it all,:mad: on several ham radio reflectors I subscribe to; I wish to make the following announcement.
I will not be told to control my sentences, grammer, terminology, or any other item I wish to speak of on any reflector I am subscribed to.
The moderator duties are well understood by me, I am a moderator of two groups and I do not restain the right of anyone to freedom of speech. If someone who is a ham radio operator like me who doesn't like me personally, please send me an email at my call at arrl.net. to tell me why I am offending you.
As of the last time I checked, this is a free country, I have not harrassed anyone, threatened anyone, or conducted spamming, on any website, or reflector, I subscribe to, or am a member of. Others have done so against me and this is illegal, and grounds for a lawsuit.
As far as I am aware, the President of the United States has not revoked the Amendments to the Constitution, and specifically the one which guarantees every citizen of this country the right to express themselves in written or verbal means as reasonable in a public forum without constraint, and I will not be further constrained to my right of free speech.
Rumors and innuendo have no place in this hobby/service and I will not stand for it.
I have retained a lawyer, and if this situation continues, he is one phone call away, and then he will be submitting paperwork and the proof on my behalf, to the appropriate offenders' residential jurisdicition Sherriffs' dept., so that they can explain their actions in a court of law.The charging documents will be for harrassment, violation of my right under the first amendment to the Constitution, Spamming without consent/permission, Defamation of my reputation and character.The time for the juvenile behavior is over. Apparently some are slow to grow up.
The guaranteed legal action will include names of corporations, and/or government entities these hams work for, or naming their property, if they allow this type of illegal activity to emminate from said agencies or corporations/locations of residence.
Both violations of Federal and state law against me, and generally the law, are occurring here folks.
It is time for all of the mentioned activities to S-T-O-P.
Let this be your only warning. You know who you are--- and I will not give you any further warnings. I will not go quietly into the night.
/s/ Robert A. Rice, KG4RRN
McLean, Virginia
03/01/08

I had no idea the QRZ rag chew forums was a place to post Legal Notices.

Well I guess knowing really is half the battle... :D

nq6v
03-03-2008, 05:42 AM
I do not know what is written in the other 49 states penal code, but the last time i checked California's. it was against the law to threaten legal action against another.

Who am I to critize.I do it myself.

nq6v
03-03-2008, 06:12 AM
O.K. Luke,baby, I'm gonna try something here.

I think your announcment is a big joke, coming from you. You behave in exactly the manner you accuse unnamed others of. You and a few of your brain dead zombies followed me around from forum to forum and harrased and intimidated me enough so i felt an actual threat against my life, and you are so unpreceptive of that fact that i place you just one brain cell smarter than your cohorts in that felony piece of action and the fact you were assured you were not in violation of the laws lesked thru etween the lines enough that it stained my screen.

You did not consol with an atty. An atty would not allow you to use his professional name attached to that piece of work in the front of this threat. I find it amusing you actually belive others would belive you actually did. You just got a bit creative with your prose, is all. Your actual imagination shines thru. Go back and reread your legal threat. Maybe it would be better if you waited a week, then reread it. You are a total idiot. And to think you actually belive yourself smarter than anyone here.

I really do not care if I am banned for this. I do not like you. I despise you. I hold you in contempt. Now to hold up a mirror to you.

www.badcopnews.com
CHOKE ON IT!

kb2vxa
03-03-2008, 06:21 AM
It's amazing how many fish may be caught by just one troll. One simply uses the right bait is all and one on this little fishing boat holds a Masters.

w6vps
03-03-2008, 06:27 AM
Get a grip mister.
In your rather lengthy diatribe you revert to passive voice, you have poor spelling and your typing skills are suspect. Those are facts right before my eyes as I read your post.
I have criticized you and your posting. Do you want to sue me now?
Bring it on.
Paul/W6VPS

W4DFW
03-03-2008, 06:31 AM
Due to over-achiving, control freaks, and retired hams who claim to know it all,:mad: on several ham radio reflectors I subscribe to; I wish to make the following announcement.
I will not be told to control my sentences, grammer, terminology, or any other item I wish to speak of on any reflector I am subscribed to.
The moderator duties are well understood by me, I am a moderator of two groups and I do not restain the right of anyone to freedom of speech. If someone who is a ham radio operator like me who doesn't like me personally, please send me an email at my call at arrl.net. to tell me why I am offending you.
As of the last time I checked, this is a free country, I have not harrassed anyone, threatened anyone, or conducted spamming, on any website, or reflector, I subscribe to, or am a member of. Others have done so against me and this is illegal, and grounds for a lawsuit.
As far as I am aware, the President of the United States has not revoked the Amendments to the Constitution, and specifically the one which guarantees every citizen of this country the right to express themselves in written or verbal means as reasonable in a public forum without constraint, and I will not be further constrained to my right of free speech.
Rumors and innuendo have no place in this hobby/service and I will not stand for it.
I have retained a lawyer, and if this situation continues, he is one phone call away, and then he will be submitting paperwork and the proof on my behalf, to the appropriate offenders' residential jurisdicition Sherriffs' dept., so that they can explain their actions in a court of law.The charging documents will be for harrassment, violation of my right under the first amendment to the Constitution, Spamming without consent/permission, Defamation of my reputation and character.The time for the juvenile behavior is over. Apparently some are slow to grow up.
The guaranteed legal action will include names of corporations, and/or government entities these hams work for, or naming their property, if they allow this type of illegal activity to emminate from said agencies or corporations/locations of residence.
Both violations of Federal and state law against me, and generally the law, are occurring here folks.
It is time for all of the mentioned activities to S-T-O-P.
Let this be your only warning. You know who you are--- and I will not give you any further warnings. I will not go quietly into the night.
/s/ Robert A. Rice, KG4RRN
McLean, Virginia
03/01/08

Yes sir're Bob!

kb3laz
03-03-2008, 06:43 AM
Alprazolam, xanax, niravam, diazepam, valium, klonopin.
Any of these may solve the problem. :D

KI4PEQ
03-03-2008, 08:21 AM
Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes said something to the effect that freedom of speech did not include the right to cry fire in a crowded theater.

One should not yell "Theater!" in a crowded firehouse, either.

This message brought to you by the American Dyslexic Society.:D

KD4LEI
03-03-2008, 10:48 AM
o, no's!!! He is going to sue you now!!!! :D

He does then I won't sweat it too much... :cool::D

KA7RRA
03-03-2008, 11:30 AM
As for the OP. he's got his head stuck in his alimentary canal.

thats called "HUA"

aa5te
03-03-2008, 04:15 PM
Make that RRN.

The edit feature dosn't seem to be working.

That's because you'd be blocking your own free speech!

KD6NIG
03-03-2008, 04:31 PM
I'm wondering how many reflectors have terminated his account for his free use of language.

The way I'm reading it, hes been banned and hes mad he has been.

WA3KYY
03-03-2008, 05:24 PM
Alprazolam, xanax, niravam, diazepam, valium, klonopin.
Any of these may solve the problem. :D

Except the lastest medical studies show they all fail to work except in the most severly ill.

What? Oh, never mind .......

KB1KIX
03-04-2008, 06:06 AM
OMG, what a riot.

Take a few days of and come back to this???

To the original poster - shut your pie hole, yep, I told you so.

I'm expecting my papers, so sue me.

I ain't posted this in a half year or so..... yet it seems appropriate here.

Jonathan




http://innerslacker.com/images/argue091204.jpg

k4kyv
03-04-2008, 09:01 AM
...I will not be told to control my sentences, grammer, terminology, or any other item I wish to speak of on any reflector I am subscribed to.
The moderator duties are well understood by me, I am a moderator of two groups and I do not restain the right of anyone to freedom of speech...
03/01/08

Please translate to English so I can understand what you are trying to write. The word grammer is not in the dictionary. Nor does it show any such word as restain.

Results

grammer was not found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary

Did you spell it correctly? Here are some alternatives:

* garner
* garnered
* garnering
* garners
* grainier
* grammar
* grammarian
* grammarians
* grammars
* granary
* greener
* greenery
* greenhorn
* greenhorns
* grimier
* grimmer

Or you could try searching for 'grammer' on the World Wide Web:

Google
Yahoo

Results

restain was not found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary

Did you spell it correctly? Here are some alternatives:

* raggedness
* ragtime
* reactant
* reactants
* reacting
* reaction
* reactionaries
* reactionary
* reactions
* receding
* reciting
* rectangle
* rectangles
* rectangular
* rectum
* rectums
* requiting
* residence
* residences
* residency
* resident
* residential
* residents
* residing
* resitting
* restante
* restauant
* restauants
* resting
* rightangled
* righthand
* righthanded
* righthander
* righthanders
* righting
* rightminded
* rightness
* rightthinking
* rightwing
* rightwinger
* rightwingers
* roasting
* roastings
* rocketing
* roosting
* rosetinted
* ructions
* rusting

Or you could try searching for 'restain' on the World Wide Web:

Google
Yahoo

But then, I couldn't do much better on your QRZ.com profile:

I started out in the hobby after September 11th 2001,obtaining my callsign in February 2002, and my goals are to provide emergency communications, and handle traffic on nets, expand my frequency privilages, and to own a free Gigaparts radio one day,after winning their drawing.(is that too much?)

W5GA
03-04-2008, 04:58 PM
restain is something you do to a piece of wood.

NA5Z
03-04-2008, 05:08 PM
RRN:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i97/TeamTumbleweeds/Smileys/wolfgangcopy.gif


Oh and you might want to grab some of these, too..... I think this would help you more than anything else:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i97/TeamTumbleweeds/Smileys/200.jpg

W0BKR
03-04-2008, 05:12 PM
I must have missed something..what is this rant all about anyway...

n0drb
03-04-2008, 05:48 PM
You've been seeing my ex-wife, haven't you????:eek:

K4GUN
03-04-2008, 07:02 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e217/cliffy109/helping%20a%20guy%20out/pancakebunny.jpg

w2amr
03-04-2008, 08:22 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e217/cliffy109/helping%20a%20guy%20out/pancakebunny.jpg
Quick, shoot it ! :D

n2nh
03-04-2008, 08:42 PM
The Internet Cops are ready to spring into action!
http://i27.tinypic.com/xlhwg4.jpg

W0MT
03-04-2008, 09:24 PM
One should not yell "Theater!" in a crowded firehouse, either.

This message brought to you by the American Dyslexic Society.:D

Richard, I don't know anything about the American Dyslexic Society but I do know about the new group, D.A.M.

That is, Mothers against Dyslexia.

KG6OPR
03-04-2008, 09:27 PM
Hey Gang, whats for Lunch?

n2nh
03-04-2008, 09:29 PM
Baloney...
http://i30.tinypic.com/2s6scpe.png

K7JEM
03-04-2008, 09:29 PM
Hey Gang, whats for Lunch?

Looks like a pancake slathered in rabbit meat.

kb3laz
03-05-2008, 06:15 AM
Except the lastest medical studies show they all fail to work except in the most severly ill.

What? Oh, never mind .......

Ah but they give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
Does this mean they are working, perhaps not.
However it is sure fun, hahahahah.

W2LYS
03-05-2008, 07:19 AM
Rumors and innuendo have no place in this hobby/service and I will not stand for it.


Innuendo?

Isn't that an Italian suppository???

KG4CGC
03-05-2008, 08:24 AM
Innuendo?

Isn't that an Italian suppository???

*rimshot*
da daat da!

ac4ut
03-05-2008, 02:14 PM
Looks like a pancake slathered in rabbit meat.



I think it is Rabbit/Crepe tartare.

Disclaimer: I called my attorney before posting to get advise but my lawyer jokes offended him so I didn't get any ditrectives. I am posting at my own risk.

WA7OET
03-05-2008, 03:36 PM
I have retained a lawyer, and if this situation continues, he is one phone call away, and then he will be submitting paperwork and the proof on my behalf, to the appropriate offenders' residential jurisdicition Sherriffs' dept., so that they can explain their actions in a court of law.The charging documents will be for harrassment, violation of my right under the first amendment to the Constitution, Spamming without consent/permission, Defamation of my reputation and character.The time for the juvenile behavior is over. Apparently some are slow to grow up.


I rarely post here and I dont know what the problem is but the tragedy is that this is what my beloved hobby has come down to...

It also reminds me why I left 6 meters some 30 yrs ago... the handful of locals who were stuck on 50.110 and constantly argued amongst themselves which presented a nasty representation of what 6 meters was in that area... now its the internet...

If all this drama makes your life worthwhile then I guess you are entitled to do it but you are only giving this site a black eye and will drive people away from it... Your "retainer" to the "lawyer" probably would have been much better spent buying a k2 or k3 kit... at least you would have gotten some satisfaction from actually doing something that you could be proud of in this hobby.

K1CJS
03-05-2008, 03:48 PM
No matter what endeavor there is, there are ALWAYS some who will be involved who is involved to either push their own agenda or to try to spoil it for others who disagree with them. The sad part is there are those who try to spoil it just to spoil it.

ka5piu
03-05-2008, 04:03 PM
Hello.

Slander? you want slander? just tell people you are a ham or a cop.
Cops have this image, cops, pigs, fuzz, etc.
Hams have this image, overweight hogs that stink.
I go thru great effort not to look like A or B.
Quite a few hams, the B group, try, sort of, to look like the A group.
Slander? walk around with half a dozen talkies on your belt, wearing an orange vest, and have the odor of a rendering plant, do not forget that badge, and see what slander is all about.
I see no need to slander, the image speaks for itself.

KA9VQF
03-05-2008, 04:17 PM
{edited quote}
Originally Posted by KG4RRN

The time for the juvenile behavior is over. Apparently some are slow to grow up.

I think right here is where the mirror should have been inserted so he could see what he is saying and take his own advice.