View Full Version : I am an Obamacan !!!
KG6JTB
02-27-2008, 04:16 AM
I became a Republican for Obama for several reasons…
#1. The professional manner in which he has run his grass-roots campaign.
#2. The business-like manner to which his campaign has managed it’s money.
#3. His demeanor and mannerisms are mature and statesmanlike, and conspicuously absent since the time of Reagan.
#4. The hope that someone who can bring people together in this nation, of all races, religions, etc will do the same on the international stage.
Those are a few reasons. Experience has really nothing to do with it. We have had successful presidents with little to no Washington experience. I view that as a plus because as president, Obama can always hire skilled policy writers. We don’t always have a choice who to hire for president that we can be proud of, or at the least, not embarrassed by.
Dave
KG6JTB
AE6IP
02-27-2008, 05:12 AM
Welcome to the team.
Glad to see someone who is willing to vote for a Candidate and what they stand for rather than a Party.
I have yet to decide myself, but I congratulate you for going beyond the party line to find the person you believe in. :)
AD5WY
02-27-2008, 08:26 AM
I notice that on his main campaign website that he has * FINALLY * put a veterans section in under 'issues' (a little late...).
What he DOES say : compare to what everybody-else has already said, and form your own opinion.
BUT he says NOTHING about ending the 'Veterans Disability Tax' (A.K.A. 'Concurrent Receipt').
kc7jty
02-27-2008, 08:31 AM
the odds are in favor him being worth 2 bits. It's just like religion, believe my brothers and thou shalt be saved.
Are you ready for the return to the big gun grab and an annexation of Africa?
W3MIV
02-27-2008, 11:13 AM
Glad to see someone who is willing to vote for a Candidate and what they stand for rather than a Party.
I have yet to decide myself, but I congratulate you for going beyond the party line to find the person you believe in. :)
It is being decided for you.
k0ews
02-27-2008, 12:13 PM
Very interesting post. I've also been impressed with the way he has run his campaign. If he were to run an administration like he's campaigned the last few months, he'd be very good.
I am giving the man a serious look as well. I thought he did a great job in the debate last night, and that the debate was pretty good (other than spending 20 minutes debating the finer points of a national health care system we don't even have.) He came off as Presidential for sure. I think Clinton is totally frustrated on how she cannot beat this guy.
If he is the nominee, I'll give him a serious look for sure.
Barry is a great choice if you are into symbolism over substance. When it's all said and done he is at least as much a hardcore LIB as Mrs. Bill, and likely more so.
ad4mg
02-27-2008, 02:25 PM
Barry is a great choice if you are into symbolism over substance. When it's all said and done he is at least as much a hardcore LIB as Mrs. Bill, and likely more so.
Thanks for calling them like Rush sees them, Mr. McNasty.
Is it painful to live life as a dittohead sound bite?
W3MIV
02-27-2008, 02:41 PM
Barry is a great choice if you are into symbolism over substance. When it's all said and done he is at least as much a hardcore LIB as Mrs. Bill, and likely more so.
An amusing hypocrisy, and not unexpected given your continual posting of "symbolism over substance" in nearly every post you make.
It long has been obvious that you have nothing more to offer than the echoes of others, and most of us no longer even bother to examine the links you post, knowing with a high degree of certainty that the content will be a meritless regurgitation of neo-conservative propaganda.
Thanks for calling them like Rush sees them, Mr. McNasty.
Is it painful to live life as a dittohead sound bite?
No more so than being a Soros Soldier.
ad4mg
02-27-2008, 02:59 PM
No more so than being a Soros Soldier.
You know what happens when you assume, Comrade?
In reality, if the true conservatives ever regain control of the republican party from the war mongering neoconservatives currently attempting to destroy this country, I lean more in that direction.
But, in your world of black and white, I couldn't possibly expect you to understand a situation that complicated.
I simply despise the arrogant, hateful, inconsiderate, and sometime traitorous mindset of the neoconservative.
kc2orw
02-27-2008, 03:03 PM
If and when the true conservative take back the party I will consider voting for them. But alas sending them back to the wilderness could cause the bad element to become more determined to hold the reigns for a while longer.
I hope you looked at his stance on issues and voting records.
Isn't that more important?
Dave
AE6IP
02-27-2008, 05:56 PM
I notice that on his main campaign website that he has * FINALLY * put a veterans section in under 'issues' (a little late...).
What he DOES say : compare to what everybody-else has already said, and form your own opinion.
BUT he says NOTHING about ending the 'Veterans Disability Tax' (A.K.A. 'Concurrent Receipt').
Have you asked his campaign for specific information on his standing on that issue?
Perhaps you'd be pleasantly surprised by the response.
You know what happens when you assume, Comrade?
I simply despise the arrogant, hateful, inconsiderate, and sometime traitorous mindset of the neoconservative.
Interesting sentences! Now we know what you really believe and your true colors.
So you don't have to assume, let me state it. You believe any person who is a registered independent with mildly conservative leanings is a communist. You also assume anyone who would vote for anyone you do not anoint is a traitor. You also have trouble seeing through the fog of the campaign and meaningless words.
One thing about the other parties is they are not funded by immigrants who want the bring their former countries political and socialist style here. Witness the Libertarian, Green Party, Republican and many others. Check Mr. Obama's ties and fund sources for his past campaigns.
I do feel so sorry for you that you can be so blind and arrogant as to assume anything you do not know. I have lived under the control of the Democratic party most of my life and know them for what they are. And I don't want any more of them. Anything is better than their socialist agenda. Give me the boll weevil democrat agenda, and we can talk about who is best qualified to lead the country.
So are you for personal freedom and responsibility or for a socialist agenda?
ad4mg
02-27-2008, 09:41 PM
Interesting sentences! Now we know what you really believe and your true colors.
So you don't have to assume, let me state it. You believe any person who is a registered independent with mildly conservative leanings is a communist. You also assume anyone who would vote for anyone you do not anoint is a traitor. You also have trouble seeing through the fog of the campaign and meaningless words.
One thing about the other parties is they are not funded by immigrants who want the bring their former countries political and socialist style here. Witness the Libertarian, Green Party, Republican and many others. Check Mr. Obama's ties and fund sources for his past campaigns.
I do feel so sorry for you that you can be so blind and arrogant as to assume anything you do not know. I have lived under the control of the Democratic party most of my life and know them for what they are. And I don't want any more of them. Anything is better than their socialist agenda. Give me the boll weevil democrat agenda, and we can talk about who is best qualified to lead the country.
So are you for personal freedom and responsibility or for a socialist agenda?
See, you just illustrated perfectly how your black and white world of sucking down the medium wave propaganda is making you act stupid.
You, in your altered reality of neoconservatism, have categorized neatly everyone who disagrees with you as described in your childish rant, which constitutes little more than ordinary, garden variety juvenile delinquent playground rhetoric.
If you had taken time to read a few more of my posts, you would know exactly where I'm coming from. I'd elaborate, but I'm enjoying myself watching you twist, turn, and squeal like a school girl with a bug caught in her hair. You're putting on quite a show.
I really enjoy putting out the bait for the weak minded, "jigging" for the inevitable reaction that I know will come. It took very little bait, and less action, to reel you in. You should stand proud as an example why the uber right-wing is going to be run out of the big white house on Pennsylvania Avenue very shortly.
As I've often noted, neocons are such a box of tools.
Thanks for playing.
KG6JTB
02-28-2008, 01:07 AM
Interesting sentences! Now we know what you really believe and your true colors.
So you don't have to assume, let me state it. You believe any person who is a registered independent with mildly conservative leanings is a communist. You also assume anyone who would vote for anyone you do not anoint is a traitor. You also have trouble seeing through the fog of the campaign and meaningless words.
One thing about the other parties is they are not funded by immigrants who want the bring their former countries political and socialist style here. Witness the Libertarian, Green Party, Republican and many others. Check Mr. Obama's ties and fund sources for his past campaigns.
I do feel so sorry for you that you can be so blind and arrogant as to assume anything you do not know. I have lived under the control of the Democratic party most of my life and know them for what they are. And I don't want any more of them. Anything is better than their socialist agenda. Give me the boll weevil democrat agenda, and we can talk about who is best qualified to lead the country.
So are you for personal freedom and responsibility or for a socialist agenda?
Would you really vote fo McCain, as self labeled "maverick"? He's unstable. If Huckabee was in McCains place, I might consider him over Obama.
I'm not enamored with Obama's positions, but rather know that the country needs a drastic change. The war has been a failure, and we have lost our standing in the world. Our government stood by while greedy lenders allowed homeowners to get themselves it terrible financial trouble. The packaged this debt and sold it internationally, further damaging our reputation. If you believe in national security, the government has been asleep at the switch domestically, and now American families are suffering.
George Bush has done more to hurt this country than protect it. Millions are facing foreclosure, the dollar is losing value, and the spending power of US consumers is evaporating. The Republicans want to further cut taxes so you can go out and spend your money in Wal Mart and fund the Chinese economy.
Well, I'm not going to argue it.
Dave
KG6JTB
See, you just illustrated perfectly how your black and white world of sucking down the medium wave propaganda is making you act stupid.
You, in your altered reality of neoconservatism, have categorized neatly everyone who disagrees with you as described in your childish rant, which constitutes little more than ordinary, garden variety juvenile delinquent playground rhetoric.
If you had taken time to read a few more of my posts, you would know exactly where I'm coming from. I'd elaborate, but I'm enjoying myself watching you twist, turn, and squeal like a school girl with a bug caught in her hair. You're putting on quite a show.
I really enjoy putting out the bait for the weak minded, "jigging" for the inevitable reaction that I know will come. It took very little bait, and less action, to reel you in. You should stand proud as an example why the uber right-wing is going to be run out of the big white house on Pennsylvania Avenue very shortly.
As I've often noted, neocons are such a box of tools.
Thanks for playing.
Glad to obliges you. Every time you answer a challenge you spout the same answers thinking no one will recognize, attack, attack, attack. This type of thing is very tiring. You do not raise any new arguments nor do you emphasize any new points.
When you and people like you stop playing as if you are more knowledgeable and all seeing than everyone else we might make some headway. Not every liberal point of view is correct, in fact history is your enemy. It always falls to people of Conservative leanings to get the country out of wars and trouble the liberal group lead us into.
Your shortsightedness and failure to think above anything other than the adjective of the decade is just plain uneducated. You can be a bore and need to reflect on where the county is heading and who is leading it there. But I would imagine the words are just too big for you to understand.
ad4mg
02-28-2008, 01:52 AM
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Your shortsightedness and failure to think above anything other than the adjective of the decade is just plain uneducated. You can be a bore and need to reflect on where the county is heading and who is leading it there. But I would imagine the words are just too big for you to understand.
It's obvious the country is going to hell, and the current crop of republicants is leading us there, with the dimocraps providing additional thrust from behind.
Your remark about conservatives would ring true if there were any real conservatives left in the republicant party. That's what you missed in my other posts, my stating that I await the return of the real conservatives to the Republican party. I have more in common with conservative values, with a few exceptions, than I do extreme liberal ideals. I probably fall just slightly to the right of the center on the political bar.
But I don't wish to bore you, or deny you the enjoyment of propping yourself up at the expense of others, so I'm delighted you see me as an uneducated bore. In your spare time, when you're not demeaning others in order to build your own self esteem, you may wish to investigate your tendency to act like that.
You have the attack method down pat, and probably excel in that regard even better than I do, so don't exclude yourself from appearing in that list of participants. To do so would be slightly more than a bit hypocritical.
Do me a favor, if you will. Look up conservative in the dictionary, and if you see a candidate who fits the description, let me know. All I see out of the republicant party these days is borrow and spend, war mongering myopics. capable of seeing only personal profit at the expense of good people. Similarly, there used to be a few good democrats around, so if you spot any of them, I'd be interested in that as well.
See my signature for further clarification. And don't be afraid of the truth ... it doesn't hurt as bad as you think. Self examination reveals much.
Ciao.
k0ews
02-28-2008, 03:33 AM
Let's see here. Energy prices soaring, inflation on the rise, economic slowdown, perhaps even stagflation, America's place in the world is diminished, and we're in a bit of crisis of confidence. We have trouble in the Mideast. Economic crisis. You'd think it was 1979. We had a fundamental shift in this country then, and we're due for one now. Reagan was elected on a message of hope, and many questioned his experience, intelligence, etc. Many supported him that didn't even agree with everything he was selling. We called them "Reagan Democrats."
This is shaping up the same way, only in reverse. We're probably due a shift back to the center from the right. The circumstances are right, and the Democrats, agree or disagree with them, are on message. The Republicans don't have a message. They've even repeatedly broken Ronald Reagan's famous 11th commandment: Thou Shalt Not Speak Ill Of Other Republicans. They do this on a daily basis anymore.
Reagan once said, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the party left me." We're seeing the same thing on this board with the original poster. Obamicans? Reagan Democrats? Funny how history seems to repeat itself.
Go to the head of the class, warfare.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/29/obamanomics-the-economics-of-fear/?print=1