"Barack HUSSEIN Obama" - What's offensive about it?

[KG4JYD]

Talk show host Billy Cunningham opened the stage for McCain today. Besides several joking/stabs at the major news networks he called Obama by his full name "Barack HUSSEIN Obama" 3 times.

If you listen to the media reports on the subject every single report I have heard tonight SPECIFICALLY makes the point that Cunningham called Obama by his full name.

My question is "What in the HELL is so offensive about calling the guy by his full name?!?!?!! "


Oh - and McCain APOLOGIZED for it. McCain is A WIMP. Why would he apologize to the media for an act he didn't commit! What a pansy...

The video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNjnUXoHH0E

[N2RJ]

Two things -

1. People think that Obama is a muslim

2. Some think that Muslims are evil, and can't run for President because "America is a Christian nation" and that anyone who is not a Christian or not white should be demonized and treated like dirt.

[K3XR]

3. Obama's parents gave him his "offensive" middle name!!

[N2RJ]

I see nothing offensive about his name by the way.

However, running for President, you are in a popularity contest, which means that even things that you are proud of can spell doom for you.

[n0ov]

Nothing is offensive about Obamas name.

It is his voting record and double talk that offends me...............................

[K7JEM]

King Hussein of Jordan was one of the best leaders to have been in the mid-east in recent decades.

He was also a ham.

JY1

Joe

[N2RJ]

I wish I was a ham when he was one...

I heard he gave out a really nice QSL card, lined with gold and all, truly a gift from a king!

[KA8DKT]

As in many cultures children are often given, as middle names, an ancestral name. Hussein is a name much the same as Smith, or Jackson, or Johnson in the U.S.

Of course, there are those whose complete lack of rational thought process will allow them to believe that a man's name (even his middle name) is somehow related to his opinions and agendas.

Like if my last name (or better yet, my middle name) was Nixon, would that make me a crook who is a Republican? Of course not. But there are those who carry and are quick to support and defend irrational beliefs such as that. These people will grab at anything to support their beliefs, no matter what the evidence and facts are.

-gary

[W8EFA]

Talk show host Billy Cunningham opened the stage for McCain today. Besides several joking/stabs at the major news networks he called Obama by his full name "Barack HUSSEIN Obama" 3 times.

If you listen to the media reports on the subject every single report I have heard tonight SPECIFICALLY makes the point that Cunningham called Obama by his full name.

My question is "What in the HELL is so offensive about calling the guy by his full name?!?!?!! "


Oh - and McCain APOLOGIZED for it. McCain is A WIMP. Why would he apologize to the media for an act he didn't commit! What a pansy...

The video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNjnUXoHH0E

I was really hoping you and your clueless posts would disappear along with Ron Paul. It is probably over your childish head to understand the emphasis on using his middle name Hussein. Have you ever heard it's not always what you say but how you say it?

There is a reason that McCain apologized because he doesn't want to be associated with a jerk like Bill Cunningham and his McCarthyesque tactics . Bill Cunningham is a rabid neo con shock jock jerk that gives Cincinnati a bad name.

[N9XR]

Is there anything wrong with saying George Walker Bush into the bedroom?

[KG4JYD]

I was really hoping you and your clueless posts would disappear along with Ron Paul. It is probably over your childish head to understand the emphasis on using his middle name Hussein. Have you ever heard it's not always what you say but how you say it?So please tell me what is different if he had said "Hillary Rodham Clinton" ?

[N9XR]

What about John Sidney McCain?

What about Ronald Ernest Paul?

Could you trust someone, earnestly, named Ernest?

Urrrr Nessst. How retarded that sounds.

[KB9BVN]

Bill Cunningham is a rabid neo con shock jock jerk that gives Cincinnati a bad name.

Cincinnati gives Cincinnati a bad name. I'm there everyday, and we all think of it as the stain on the Ohio. Billy just adds some balance to the mix, but not much.

I think McCain made a mistake by apologizing, it was not an issue until he made it one. This huge error in judgment will probably cost him a lot of votes.

Have you been downtown lately? The place is a filthy, nasty place with boarded up buildings, broken sidewalks, and a couple billion dollars worth of sports stadiums and no where to park. At least the city loves the homeless, because they are on every street corner, and every intersection, begging.

We spend most of our money in Newport....that's in Kentucky, even when we go down there for a Reds game.

[W3MIV]

I think McCain made a mistake by apologizing, it was not an issue until he made it one. This huge error in judgment will probably cost him a lot of votes.

What you are saying is that McCain, by being a decent and honorable man, does not fulfill your political desires for a candidate who would stoop to pander for the xenophobic vote.

McCain did not make a "huge error in judgment;" McCain stood tall in the saddle and stated clearly that he would rather be an honorable man than president if electoral success were to depend upon pimping for such a group of voters.

My esteem for McCain rises.

[K3XR]

LIB nets out of control on Barry Hussein remark.

http://newsbusters.org/node/19516/print

[N9MOQ]

Talk show host Billy Cunningham opened the stage for McCain today. Besides several joking/stabs at the major news networks he called Obama by his full name "Barack HUSSEIN Obama" 3 times.

If you listen to the media reports on the subject every single report I have heard tonight SPECIFICALLY makes the point that Cunningham called Obama by his full name.

My question is "What in the HELL is so offensive about calling the guy by his full name?!?!?!! "


Probably the same reason they considered it a smear campaign to show a photo of him in Muslim garb.

Obama is trying hard to convince people he is a Christian and not a Muslim.

This is getting harder for him to do, if people keep pointing out his Muslim names, or photographs of him in Muslim garb.

If someone next points out his father was Muslim, this will probably also be considered offensive or a smear campaign.

This is sort of like when it was reported that John Kerry's grandfather changed the family name from Kohn to Kerry and John Kerry was trying hard to assure everyone he was a Christian too.

Actually, Bill Clinton was born William Jefferson Blythe III, and had he not changed his name, Hillary would be known as Hillary Blythe instead of Hillary Clinton.

More important that if Obama's name is Muslim or Christian, is if he can win an election with a name like Obama. Would Bill have won if his name was Blythe instead of Clinton?

Some other candidates that didn't have Presidential sounding names:
Dukakis, Badnarik, Kucinich, Huckabee, Giuliani.

When looking at the list of former US Presidents, we don't find names like these.

Many strongly believe Obama, Huckabee, Kucinich and Giuliani never had a chance of winning, based just on their names alone.

Somehow, "President Barack Hussein Obama" doesn't sound right to many people.

Perhaps Obama would have had a better chance if he had changed his name, like Bill Blythe did.

[K3XR]

What's your name??

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/

[KG4JYD]

Some other candidates that didn't have Presidential sounding names: Dukakis, That sounds soooo dirty when said aloud.

[KG4JYD]

Cincinnati gives Cincinnati a bad name. Or as we call it in Nashville "Cincinasty" :p

[kc2orw]

Two things -

1. People think that Obama is a muslim

2. Some think that Muslims are evil, and can't run for President because "America is a Christian nation" and that anyone who is not a Christian or not white should be demonized and treated like dirt.
Bada bing!

[KB9BVN]

My esteem for McCain rises.

Cunningham now says he's voting for Clinton. Does this mean you're now leaning toward John Sidney McCain?

I still have electile dysfunction. Not liking any of them yet.

[W3MIV]

Cunningham now says he's voting for Clinton. Does this mean you're now leaning toward John Sidney McCain?

I still have electile dysfunction. Not liking any of them yet.

Because I value a man's ethical resolve does not equate to an intention to vote for that man.

I support Obama.

[W8EFA]

Cincinnati gives Cincinnati a bad name. I'm there everyday, and we all think of it as the stain on the Ohio. Billy just adds some balance to the mix, but not much.

I think McCain made a mistake by apologizing, it was not an issue until he made it one. This huge error in judgment will probably cost him a lot of votes.

Have you been downtown lately? The place is a filthy, nasty place with boarded up buildings, broken sidewalks, and a couple billion dollars worth of sports stadiums and no where to park. At least the city loves the homeless, because they are on every street corner, and every intersection, begging.

We spend most of our money in Newport....that's in Kentucky, even when we go down there for a Reds game.
Considering where you live Cincinnati is a paradise.

And I would figure you would like the hate mongering Bill Cunningham, he is definitely your kind. I wish you would take him back with you to "New Whiteland" IN. He would fit in well there I am sure. Of course there would be nothing for him to do there in the middle of nowhere. Downtown Cincinnati is actually safer and nicer than most big cities, coming from where you live you just wouldn't know any better. Saying Newport Ky is nice compared to Cincinnati just proves you don’t have a clue about this area.

[N9XR]

King Hussein of Jordan was one of the greatest world leaders of our time. Also a hammie, JY1.

Obama is in good company.

[W0MT]

Bill Cunningham did not use Barack Obama's full name in an attempt to help him win an election. He used it as an attempt to convince voters who aren't very smart that there is something sinister about Obama. It apparently worked based on some of the comments I read here posted by those who are not very smart. If Cunningham merely wanted to identify Barack Obama he could have said Senator Obama or Barack Obama. It is common to differentiate between the two Presidents with the last name of Bush by using their full names or to at least their middle initials.

[KD6NIG]

Probably the same reason they considered it a smear campaign to show a photo of him in Muslim garb.

Obama is trying hard to convince people he is a Christian and not a Muslim.

This is getting harder for him to do, if people keep pointing out his Muslim names, or photographs of him in Muslim garb.

If someone next points out his father was Muslim, this will probably also be considered offensive or a smear campaign.

This is sort of like when it was reported that John Kerry's grandfather changed the family name from Kohn to Kerry and John Kerry was trying hard to assure everyone he was a Christian too.

Actually, Bill Clinton was born William Jefferson Blythe III, and had he not changed his name, Hillary would be known as Hillary Blythe instead of Hillary Clinton.

More important that if Obama's name is Muslim or Christian, is if he can win an election with a name like Obama. Would Bill have won if his name was Blythe instead of Clinton?

Some other candidates that didn't have Presidential sounding names:
Dukakis, Badnarik, Kucinich, Huckabee, Giuliani.

When looking at the list of former US Presidents, we don't find names like these.

Many strongly believe Obama, Huckabee, Kucinich and Giuliani never had a chance of winning, based just on their names alone.

Somehow, "President Barack Hussein Obama" doesn't sound right to many people.

Perhaps Obama would have had a better chance if he had changed his name, like Bill Blythe did.

Actually, there are a lot of people who find "President Barack Hussein Obama" sounding just dandy.

They just don't reside in this country.

[kc2orw]

Seems to me there is plenty of support here for Barack Hussein Obama, looking forward to saying President Barack Hussein Obama.

[K3XR]

Throw mama from the train, sorry, make that throw Bill under the straight talk express.

http://newsbusters.org/node/19529/print

[KA8DKT]

So please tell me what is different if he had said "Hillary Rodham Clinton" ?
I am going to assume that you are asking this in a sincere manner.

By repeatedly saying Obama's full name, including the middle name "Hussein", this person is trying to make a connection between Obama and the world of Islam. Hussein is a very common name in the Arabic world and since most Arabic people are Islamic, it is also a very common name among Islamics. Again, by repeatedly saying the name the speaker is clearly trying to infer that there is some connection between Islamics and Obama. And of course, Americans are also quite familiar with Saddam Hussein, another "evil" person.

The name Rodham has no such inferred negative connotations so in this case, saying Hillary Rodham Clinton is essentially without harm.

There will always be those whose complete lack of rational thought process will allow them to believe that a man's name (even his middle name) is somehow related to his opinions and agendas, or even his religion.

Cunningham is one of those people as are, apparently, even some people here on the 'Zed.

-gary

[KB9BVN]

Considering where you live Cincinnati is a paradise.

And I would figure you would like the hate mongering Bill Cunningham, he is definitely your kind. I wish you would take him back with you to "New Whiteland" IN. He would fit in well there I am sure. Of course there would be nothing for him to do there in the middle of nowhere. Downtown Cincinnati is actually safer and nicer than most big cities, coming from where you live you just wouldn't know any better. Saying Newport Ky is nice compared to Cincinnati just proves you don’t have a clue about this area.

Hahaha...you have no idea about where I live. I spend about 60 hours a week in Hamiliton County. I have been here for almost 10 years, and I have seen the crooked leadership, the crooked preachers, and the crooked cops up close and personal. I do not, and would not live in Ohio unless it was far away from places like Cincy, Cleveland, Toledo or Columbus.

Like I said..it's a stain on the Ohio.

[KA8DKT]

Probably the same reason they considered it a smear campaign to show a photo of him in Muslim garb.The joke is on them. It is not "Muslim garb". It is Somalian ceremonial garb.

[I stand corrected. It is apparently Kenyan ceremonial garb. Ironically, Kenya's population is largely Christian. 27 Feb 08]

Obama is trying hard to convince people he is a Christian and not a Muslim.No, quite the opposite. There are those who are trying to convince people he is Muslim, and not Christian.

If someone next points out his father was Muslim, this will probably also be considered offensive or a smear campaign.In order to be accurate, they would also have to say he was an "inactive" Muslim. But why mention it at all? Who cares what religion his father was? His father is not running for President. Bill Clinton's brother was an alcoholic. Did that affect your vote when Clinton was running? George H. W. Bush's eldest son was a cokehead and an alcoholic. Did that affect your vote when George H. W. Bush was running for President?

When looking at the list of former US Presidents, we don't find names like these.Really? How about Millard Fillmore or Franklin Pierce?

I am amazed at the efforts to swiftboat Obama with this name/religion thing. As to his religion, from his background, I would not be surprised if he was an atheist. His mother was, and his father was a non-practicing Muslim. They both made an effort to expose Barack to a range of religions and religious services. Perhaps they were helping him make an informed decision about religion?

Trying to make a connection between Obama and Islamic terrorism is truly a flight of fancy. If there were any real connection, it would have been uncovered by now by either the Secret Service, FBI, CIA, NSA, or one of the reputable investigative news organizations.

-gary

[N9MOQ]

Trying to make a connection between Obama and Islamic terrorism

Just last night on one of the news networks, someone was mentioning how people keep using the term "Islamic terrorists" in an attempt to associate all of Islam with terrorism, and she didn't like when people used this term.

How ironic to see the term used in a sentance by someone who has a similar distaste for any associations made between Obama and terrorists. (Or was it the association between Obama and Islam?)

Either way, I find the irony interesting.

"Don't do as I do, do as I say."

[W8EFA]

Hahaha...you have no idea about where I live. I spend about 60 hours a week in Hamiliton County. I have been here for almost 10 years, and I have seen the crooked leadership, the crooked preachers, and the crooked cops up close and personal. I do not, and would not live in Ohio unless it was far away from places like Cincy, Cleveland, Toledo or Columbus.

Like I said..it's a stain on the Ohio.

I take offense at calling the city of Cincinnati a stain! And you live where????

And Columbus, and Cleveland, sucks too. According to you? Where do you live again? And if you spend 60 Hours a week in Hamilton County you should at least learn how to spell it.

It is obvious you don't have a clue what you are talking about when you say you like Newport Kentucky, which has been Cincinnati's underground seedy playground, known nationally as Sin City. Anyone that is a Cincinnatian would absolutely roll on the ground with that statement.

Another clodhopper from Indiana putting down a wonderful city because he saw a few homeless people. He prefers the trailer parks of nowhere Indiana apparently. Tell me one major city where there are not homeless people.

Cincinnati is a wonderful Midwest city with a colorful river city history with great hills, food, arts, sports, and one of the best economies of the Midwest.

[K2WH]

Hillary is constantly called "Hillary Rodham Clinton". Wheres the offense. I think everyone should be required to remember and know BHO's middle name is Hussein. It is afterall, his name. If he is ashamed of it, then change it to Bob.

K2WH

[K3XR]

Hillary is constantly called "Hillary Rodham Clinton". Wheres the offense. I think everyone should be required to remember and know BHO's middle name is Hussein. It is afterall, his name. If he is ashamed of it, then change it to Bob.

K2WH

I have been thinking about it, how about the candidate formerly know as Barry Hussein? What the heck, it worked for the purple rain dude.

[KB9BVN]

I take offense at calling the city of Cincinnati a stain! And you live where????

Cincinnati - Home of the Bengals, the worst football team in the history of the NFL....so you bought them a new stadium costing almost 1 billion dollars....good thinking there...oh yeah...Ocho Cinco...nuff sed.

Newport is awesome, they have the Aquarium, movie theaters, nice restaurants, clean streets, yes those dumb old Kentuckians really fixed the place up when they realized that downtown Porkopolis was only fit for transients and folks that can't stay up past 6PM. How long has it been since YOU went downtown?

When we go to Reds games (only when I get free tickets) , we park in Newport and come over on a shuttle. When the game is over, we leave the Queen City and go back to Newport to spend our Hoosier cash on good food, good drink, and good times. I try to spend as little as possible in your town.

[K0RGR]

Hillary is also pushing the "Barack is a Muslim" button. She went out of her way to associate him with Louis Farrakhan last night. Farrakhan has endorsed Obama. Obama denounced Farrakhan's positions on Israel and his anti-semitism, and made it very clear that he did not seek Farrakhan's support.

Cincinnati - a relative of mine actually surveyed and platted the town. Unfortunately, he was a terrible surveyor, and there was a huge amount of land that was actually platted twice, causing many people to lose their shirts when it was discovered that land had been sold twice - Daniel Boone was one such unfortunate. This same fellow at one time or other held every elective office in Cincinnati. He was a terrible City Clerk, though. The city wouldn't buy him filing cabinets, so he just kept all the records in piles on the floor.

[K3XR]

Hillary is also pushing the "Barack is a Muslim" button. She went out of her way to associate him with Louis Farrakhan last night. Farrakhan has endorsed Obama. Obama denounced Farrakhan's positions on Israel and his anti-semitism, and made it very clear that he did not seek Farrakhan's support.

Cincinnati - a relative of mine actually surveyed and platted the town. Unfortunately, he was a terrible surveyor, and there was a huge amount of land that was actually platted twice, causing many people to lose their shirts when it was discovered that land had been sold twice - Daniel Boone was one such unfortunate. This same fellow at one time or other held every elective office in Cincinnati. He was a terrible City Clerk, though. The city wouldn't buy him filing cabinets, so he just kept all the records in piles on the floor.

Hillary did not go out of her way to associate BHO with Farrakan, Farrakan did, I could be wrong, but I think Russert raised the question about Farrakan, not Mrs. Bill.

[KB9BVN]

Hillary is also pushing the "Barack is a Muslim" button. She went out of her way to associate him with Louis Farrakhan last night. Farrakhan has endorsed Obama. Obama denounced Farrakhan's positions on Israel and his anti-semitism, and made it very clear that he did not seek Farrakhan's support.

Cincinnati - a relative of mine actually surveyed and platted the town. Unfortunately, he was a terrible surveyor, and there was a huge amount of land that was actually platted twice, causing many people to lose their shirts when it was discovered that land had been sold twice - Daniel Boone was one such unfortunate. This same fellow at one time or other held every elective office in Cincinnati. He was a terrible City Clerk, though. The city wouldn't buy him filing cabinets, so he just kept all the records in piles on the floor.

I find it amusing that a former Mayor of Cincinnati was none other than Jerry Springer...he got in deep doo doo when he was busted writing bad checks to a prostitute in Covington KY.

[KG6JTB]

Talk show host Billy Cunningham opened the stage for McCain today. Besides several joking/stabs at the major news networks he called Obama by his full name "Barack HUSSEIN Obama" 3 times.

If you listen to the media reports on the subject every single report I have heard tonight SPECIFICALLY makes the point that Cunningham called Obama by his full name.

My question is "What in the HELL is so offensive about calling the guy by his full name?!?!?!! "


Oh - and McCain APOLOGIZED for it. McCain is A WIMP. Why would he apologize to the media for an act he didn't commit! What a pansy...

The video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNjnUXoHH0E

It's not the middle name calling, but the emphasis on it and the strawman push to make Obama appear as if he is a terrorist. That is absurd. So everyone with a name like that is a terrorist?

The Republican party is not something I wish to identify myself with anymore.

Dave
KG6JTB

[K2WH]

It's not the middle name calling, but the emphasis on it and the strawman push to make Obama appear as if he is a terrorist. That is absurd. So everyone with a name like that is a terrorist?

The Republican party is not something I wish to identify myself with anymore.

Dave
KG6JTB

It's simply liberaldoms attempt to distract the voters. They want you to forget the Hussein name.

K2WH

[ad4mg]

It's simply liberaldoms attempt to distract the voters. They want you to forget the Hussein name.

K2WH

Totally void of any additional relevant material, Billy-Bob?

[KA8DKT]

Just last night on one of the news networks, someone was mentioning how people keep using the term "Islamic terrorists" in an attempt to associate all of Islam with terrorism, and she didn't like when people used this term.

How ironic to see the term used in a sentance by someone who has a similar distaste for any associations made between Obama and terrorists. (Or was it the association between Obama and Islam?)

Either way, I find the irony interesting.

"Don't do as I do, do as I say."Perhaps she should reconsider. The vast majority of today's active terrorists seem to be Islamic. Forty years ago the big terrorists were the Northern Irish.

Moderate Islamics seem to be all so offended by being grouped in with the extremists. Well, if they don't like being associated with extremists, why don't they help out with finding and neutralizing those who are terrorists?

-gary

[K3XR]

Was I on vacation, or did I miss the LIBS, and the looney ZED posters, outrage on this comment by Kerrey??
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/12/why-did-bob-ker.html

[N9MOQ]

Perhaps she should reconsider. The vast majority of today's active terrorists seem to be Islamic.

I just found it ironic how one person who may not like the linking of two words, used another linking of two other words that another person found offensive, while trying to point out how wrong the first example was.

As far as terrorists being more of any particular group, it is all relative.

Sort of like sports teams. I always found it strange that people would be so passionate about one team being the best, just because it happens to be in the same geographical area that they happen to live. I'm the type of person that would have to look at all the teams, and decide which has the best players based on the players, not the geographical location of the team.

For instance, in this region, there are those that are hard core Bears fans, and those that are hard core Green Bay fans. To the ridiculous point that they would actually enter into a physical fight over an argument to which team is better. So which ones are the bad guys?

In the case that they would actually fight over it, BOTH of them are the bad guys.

I don't watch or like gridiron, so I could care less. I like REAL football. And since all the good football teams are in the UK and Europe, I don't pick favorites based on which one is in my geographical location, because none of them are.

Sometimes two teams play in which I like players from both teams, and then it is hard for me to decide which one to root for. But I enjoy the game anyway.

[KA8DKT]

It's simply liberaldoms attempt to distract the voters. They want you to forget the Hussein name.

K2WH
Tell me, exactly, why anyone should care about the Hussein name?

-gary

[kc4ylv]

t's simply liberaldoms attempt to distract the voters. They want you to forget the Hussein name.

You do realize that the name Hussein in the Middle East is roughly as common as the name Smith, right?

[KG4JYD]

It's not the middle name calling, but the emphasis on it and the strawman push to make Obama appear as if he is a terrorist. How is reciting someone's full name making them sound like a terrorist?


The Republican party is not something I wish to identify myself with anymore.Me neither. But there is a growing effort to change it from within. We'll see if we have any success.

[KG4JYD]

By repeatedly saying Obama's full name, including the middle name "Hussein", this person is trying to make a connection between Obama and the world of Islam. Hussein is a very common name in the Arabic world and since most Arabic people are Islamic, it is also a very common name among Islamics. And Obama's lineage is part of that. So? Big deal!



Again, by repeatedly saying the name the speaker is clearly trying to infer that there is some connection between Islamics and Obama. There is! His dad was Muslim, thus the middle name.



The name Rodham has no such inferred negative connotations so in this case, saying Hillary Rodham Clinton is essentially without harm. If he didn't want to have negative connotations associated with his name he would either have it legally changed or NOT seek public office where he is under constant scrutiny.

[W8EFA]

Cincinnati - Home of the Bengals, the worst football team in the history of the NFL....so you bought them a new stadium costing almost 1 billion dollars....good thinking there...oh yeah...Ocho Cinco...nuff sed.

Newport is awesome, they have the Aquarium, movie theaters, nice restaurants, clean streets, yes those dumb old Kentuckians really fixed the place up when they realized that downtown Porkopolis was only fit for transients and folks that can't stay up past 6PM. How long has it been since YOU went downtown?

When we go to Reds games (only when I get free tickets) , we park in Newport and come over on a shuttle. When the game is over, we leave the Queen City and go back to Newport to spend our Hoosier cash on good food, good drink, and good times. I try to spend as little as possible in your town.

Yea, I am sure you don't like Ocho Cinco , after all he is Black. I notice "New Whiteland" is pure 98.4% whitebread and the Black population is less than .03% Such Cultural diversity in Central Indiana :p

And many NFL teams have been around a lot longer than the Bengals and have never even been to a Superbowl to which the Bengals (and I) have been twice.

Again your comments are downright hilarious to anyone that lives in Cincinnati. What you know of Newport that you think is so wonderful is the strip of land on the river, facing Cincinnati approximately 200 yards deep and 1 mile long facing CINCINNATI's beautiful SKYLINE. Without Cincinnati that little strip in Newport wouldn't even be their!

Newport was the slums of Cincinnati where there is over 30% Poverty, and Monmouth Street which is nationally famous for its strip clubs, prostititution and drugs.

What is really funny is someone that lives on the street you live on in your godforsaken nowhere central Indiana town of "New Whiteland would have the gall to make" making fun of ANY QTH. Yes, New Whiteland, the epitomy of class and culture.. ROTFLMAO

[K3XR]

A voter who casts their vote based on Obama's middle name, should not be allowed to vote.

[N9MOQ]

You do realize that the name Hussein in the Middle East is roughly as common as the name Smith, right?

This brought up an interesting thought.

What if someone with the name Steve Smith decided to run for election someplace in the middle east? I wonder how well that would work out?

Then someone could say something about Steve John Smith and point out his middle name is John and then Mr Smith's campaign could complain that mentioning his middle name was an evil smear campaign.

And what if someone posted a photo of Mr Smith dressed up in a suit and tie?

And I wonder if Steve John Smith claimed he was a muslim, how many people would beleive him. Especially if his father was a Christian and he had lived in America and went to a Christian school when he was a kid.

It's always interesting to set up an example where the shoe is on the other foot, and how people on the other side would react.

[KA8DKT]

This brought up an interesting thought.
What if someone with the name Steve Smith decided to run for election someplace in the middle east? I wonder how well that would work out?
Then someone could say something about Steve John Smith and point out his middle name is John and then Mr Smith's campaign could complain that mentioning his middle name was an evil smear campaign.
And what if someone posted a photo of Mr Smith dressed up in a suit and tie?
And I wonder if Steve John Smith claimed he was a muslim, how many people would beleive him. Especially if his father was a Christian and he had lived in America and went to a Christian school when he was a kid.
It's always interesting to set up an example where the shoe is on the other foot, and how people on the other side would react.In your example you state that this individual went to a Christian school as a kid. I suppose this would be the equivlent of Obama having gone to an Islamic school as a kid. But in reality Obama went to a secular school as a kid. Obama's father was a non-practicing Muslim. Obama's mother was an athiest. He was born in Hawaii, and raised in Jakarta, a culturally diverse city although Indonesia is largely Islamic in population.

Let's try this, instead. Let's name our young individual Steve Bush Smith. His father is a Christian, as is his mother. He went to public school in, say, Madrid as a kid and found Islam in college. He is now Islamic and lives in an Islamic nation. He is a member of a local mosque. He is running for a government office in this Islamic country, i.e., a country in which the government is run by Islamic religious rule. Bush is not an uncommon name in America. Is this man an agent of the bush administration? Could he really be Islamic? But of course we will have an element of those who will accuse him of being a dangerous person with no more justification than just his name.

The real difference between the examples is that in America we have access to vast resources of information. Almost everyone in America can read and was taught reading from books other than the Koran or the Bible. Almost everyone in America has had an education that covered myriad subjects from the alphabet to geography, to literature, to higher math and sciences. Typically, the government in America does not promote cultural lies and hate. So we have the ability to discern that rantings with incorrect evidence or no evidence at all are just that, rantings.

In many Islamic nations, and especially where Islamic fundamentalists hold control, there is no access to resources such as ours. The the only source of information is the Imam at the local mosque. The only learning is done with the Koran.

Thus those who follow the radical/fundamentalist/extremist Islamic leaders are those who cannot think for themselves because they have been taught not to. They believe their leaders even when evidence points otherwise because they have been taught to do so. They have been taught to not ever question authority and especially not religious authority. Not substantially different from religious fundamentalists and extremists anywhere.

So it is easy to understand why and believe these people might have difficulty judging the vercity of the claims made against our fictional Steve Bush Smith. It is more difficult to understand why people in America have difficulty figuring out claims such as these against Obama.

Your example, while valid in some respects, is a little oversimplified and does not account for other significant factors that are germaine to such a comparison.

-gary

[kc2orw]

A voter who casts their vote based on Obama's middle name, should not be allowed to vote.
So maybe KKK members should lose their right to vote because they believe this...

[N8UZE]

Bill Cunningham did not use Barack Obama's full name in an attempt to help him win an election. He used it as an attempt to convince voters who aren't very smart that there is something sinister about Obama. It apparently worked based on some of the comments I read here posted by those who are not very smart. If Cunningham merely wanted to identify Barack Obama he could have said Senator Obama or Barack Obama. It is common to differentiate between the two Presidents with the last name of Bush by using their full names or to at least their middle initials.

Precisely. Cunningham said it as Barack Hussein Obama with emphasis on the middle name.

Also using Obama's name three times in its long form is a similar overemphasis. Think about your own speech and/or writing patterns. Generally, unless there is a strong reason to do so, names are used in their shortened forms after the initial use of the long form. By not using the shorter Barack Obama or Obama or even Barack, in subsequent sentences, he was attempting to deliberately call attention to the middle name.

[N8UZE]

It's not the middle name calling, but the emphasis on it and the strawman push to make Obama appear as if he is a terrorist. That is absurd. So everyone with a name like that is a terrorist?

The Republican party is not something I wish to identify myself with anymore.

Dave
KG6JTB


Unfortunately every political party, every hobby group, every collection of people anywhere for any purpose contains its share of idiots. Unless you want to hole up somewhere as a hermit, just separate the wheat from the chaff and move on.

This was an individual person playing this game.

[K3XR]

So maybe KKK members should lose their right to vote because they believe this...

I think you can do better than that.

[kc2orw]

I think you can do better than that.
Sure I could but I felt it kinder to just match you one for one :D

[N8UZE]

If he didn't want to have negative connotations associated with his name he would either have it legally changed or NOT seek public office where he is under constant scrutiny.

Obama doesn't seem worried about it.

The one who was worried was John McCain as he did not want to appear to be supporting the person who may have been trying to smear Obama based solely on a name.

[ad4mg]

Sure I could but I felt it kinder to just match you one for one :D

You left out the link. He communicates using the words of others.

[kc2orw]

Obama doesn't seem worried about.

The one who was worried was John McCain as he did not want to appear to be supporting the person who may have been trying to smear Obama based solely on a name.
I actually give credit to John McCain for trying to temper things a bit. I still disagree with his position on the war and the possibility of him escalating it.

[N8UZE]

I have a couple of points to add.

The first one is an extension of my comment on saying the name in its long form several times. In writing/speaking, one is taught that if you want your audience to really remember something, you say it three times, at the beginning, in the middle, and near the end. So it would appear that this speaker wanted to be sure that the audience would remember it. Why he would want the audience to remember it is open to speculation.

My next comment is on the connotations of words/names. Try as we might, some words and names are associated with "evil" and others with "good". A politician will attempt to use those associations, justified or not to sway people to his point of view.

So let's go on and look at the long forms of Clinton's and Obama's names.

Barack Hussein Obama
- If the middle name is emphasized, that negative connotation is apt to end up attached to it. Even though it is wrong, it will, at least momentarily, trigger the association with Sadam Hussein. As I stated previously, Obama does not seem worried about it. He himself seems to use the common approach of simply using first and last name with no particular reason other than normal usage standards.

Hillary Rodham Clinton
- No particularly negative association yet she is using the long form for a reason. Note that Rodham is NOT her middle name but her maiden name. Now there are several reasons she might choose this form. One it shows that she is a separate person than Bill by choosing to use Rodham instead of her middle name of Diane. Two, Rodham is much stronger sounding than Diane. Three, it links her back to the women's lib movement of the 60's and 70's where this type of usage was actively encouraged by the leaders of the movement and so perhaps she hopes to connect better with people in her own age group. Any one or all or none of these reasons may be why she uses this form. However, you can bet she has a reason. Note I am not saying that this is a bad thing to do, simply that she has a reason for it.

[KA8DKT]

A voter who casts their vote based on Obama's middle name, should not be allowed to vote.
Really. Once we exclude one little group, who is next? People with your criteria? People with your beliefs? People with mine?

-gary

[KG4JYD]

The one who was worried was John McCain as he did not want to appear to be supporting the person who may have been trying to smear Obama based solely on a name.I know. He's a pansy and a wimp.

I could understand (and even to a certain extent agree with) McCain wanting to distance himself and disassociate himself with those comments. However there was ZERO need for him to apologize for something he did not do. That shows weakness and pandering.

He will NOT be getting my vote....

[W3MIV]

He will NOT be getting my vote....

Glad to hear it. Vote for change by voting for Barack Obama. You'll be happy you did.

[KG4JYD]

Glad to hear it. Vote for change by voting for Barack Obama. You'll be happy you did.HA HA HA.... funny guy.

The only person who is going to REALLY change things as President is Ron Paul. Unfortunately it isn't looking good for him except for his Congressional seat again.

Since it doesn't look like I'll get the opportunity to vote for Ron Paul in the general election I'll either vote for the Libertarian Party candidate, the Constitutional Party Candidate, or I'll simply write-in Ron Paul's name.

[K3XR]

"Politics of personal distraction".

http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/02/barack_obama_and_the_politics_1.php

[w8pm]

HA HA HA.... funny guy.

The only person who is going to REALLY change things as President is Ron Paul. Unfortunately it isn't looking good for him except for his Congressional seat again.

Since it doesn't look like I'll get the opportunity to vote for Ron Paul in the general election I'll either vote for the Libertarian Party candidate, the Constitutional Party Candidate, or I'll simply write-in Ron Paul's name.

Unfortunately for Mr. Paul, he lives in a democratic society. In order to "REALLY change things" he has to get elected by convincing more than a few drunk frat boys that he has the stones for the job. So, how many delegates does Ron have now?:rolleyes:

[n9kpn]

{SNIP}
Sort of like sports teams. I always found it strange that people would be so passionate about one team being the best, just because it happens to be in the same geographical area that they happen to live. I'm the type of person that would have to look at all the teams, and decide which has the best players based on the players, not the geographical location of the team.

For instance, in this region, there are those that are hard core Bears fans, and those that are hard core Green Bay fans. To the ridiculous point that they would actually enter into a physical fight over an argument to which team is better. So which ones are the bad guys?
{SNIP}


Very interesting point. The only sport I mildly take an interest in is NASCAR. In this sport there are Earnhardt/Dale Jr. fans and everyone else. In the seasons previous to 2007 someone like Jeff Gordon (a Hendrick driver) would be pelted with trash for winning a race over Jr. Basically anyone on the Hendrick team was considered EVIL by Earnhardt fans. But that changed in 2007 when rumors began that Jr. might move to Hendrick. Now he's one of the bad guys and that has made all of them the good guys. Dale, Jeff, and Jimmy are still all the same men. But in the past Dale was a good guy and Jeff and Jimmy were the bad guys. The only thing that changed was the person Dale was working for and now the previously bad guys are buddies!

Where am I going with this? The GOP was all down on McCain when they thought Gulliani was the person the voters would pick. Right now HUSSEIN and RODHAM (just to be fair) are trashing each other. In the next couple weeks a clear front runner will be picked; my guess now is it will be HUSSEIN. How likely to you think RODHAM will be saying "VOTE FOR McCAIN" next October and November? Right now she's saying DON'T vote for HUSSEIN. Now, let's say he gets the nod and becomes the Democrat candidate and he picks her as his running mate. Will the GOP leaders that were saying DON'T vote for McCAIN say vote for HUSSEIN/RODHAM or will they turn around and say we want you to vote for the guy we told you NOT to vote for back in January?

Both sides trash one another to win. But you never see them say VOTE FOR THE OTHER PARTY as the guy that won on our side isn't worth having.

(IMHO I wish there was a NONE OF THE ABOVE)

[nx6d]

Pathetic, yet typical of the AM radio mob...

Get real, station. NASCAR fan, I should have figured...

Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA


Very interesting point. The only sport I mildly take an interest in is NASCAR. In this sport there are Earnhardt/Dale Jr. fans and everyone else. In the seasons previous to 2007 someone like Jeff Gordon (a Hendrick driver) would be pelted with trash for winning a race over Jr. Basically anyone on the Hendrick team was considered EVIL by Earnhardt fans. But that changed in 2007 when rumors began that Jr. might move to Hendrick. Now he's one of the bad guys and that has made all of them the good guys. Dale, Jeff, and Jimmy are still all the same men. But in the past Dale was a good guy and Jeff and Jimmy were the bad guys. The only thing that changed was the person Dale was working for and now the previously bad guys are buddies!

Where am I going with this? The GOP was all down on McCain when they thought Gulliani was the person the voters would pick. Right now HUSSEIN and RODHAM (just to be fair) are trashing each other. In the next couple weeks a clear front runner will be picked; my guess now is it will be HUSSEIN. How likely to you think RODHAM will be saying "VOTE FOR McCAIN" next October and November? Right now she's saying DON'T vote for HUSSEIN. Now, let's say he gets the nod and becomes the Democrat candidate and he picks her as his running mate. Will the GOP leaders that were saying DON'T vote for McCAIN say vote for HUSSEIN/RODHAM or will they turn around and say we want you to vote for the guy we told you NOT to vote for back in January?

Both sides trash one another to win. But you never see them say VOTE FOR THE OTHER PARTY as the guy that won on our side isn't worth having.

(IMHO I wish there was a NONE OF THE ABOVE)

[NL7W]

Since we cannot say "Hussein" without being labeled racist by the Left, let's do as Mark suggests:

"Let's give him a new middle name, Barack Milhous Obama!" :D:cool:

[KU0DM]

It's not using his full name, it's using his full name followed by "a muslim" which you hear on many conservative talk shows.

Get your facts straight. :D;)

[KA8DKT]

...
(IMHO I wish there was a NONE OF THE ABOVE)One day that might win.

-gary

[ko0m]

Considering where you live Cincinnati is a paradise.

And I would figure you would like the hate mongering Bill Cunningham, he is definitely your kind. I wish you would take him back with you to "New Whiteland" IN. He would fit in well there I am sure. Of course there would be nothing for him to do there in the middle of nowhere. Downtown Cincinnati is actually safer and nicer than most big cities, coming from where you live you just wouldn't know any better. Saying Newport Ky is nice compared to Cincinnati just proves you don’t have a clue about this area.

I have never heard Billy tell a lie, you may not like what he says or how he says it but, it's the truth.

http://home.cinci.rr.com/melgriffindotcom/Ebay/willie.gif

(Guess which one is Billy Cunningham!)

[KA8DKT]

Since we cannot say "Hussein" without being labeled racist by the Left, let's do as Mark suggests:

"Let's give him a new middle name, Barack Milhous Obama!" :D:cool:There is only one reason to use Obama's middle name, and that is an attempt to promote the false innuendo that he is Islamic, extremist Islamic, or at least Arabic. The last time I checked, he was an American citizen.

When you don't have a rational argument about his policies or plans, you can always plant some false innuendo based on his name.

Only ignorant people would believe and promote such misinformation.

Educated people know that Hussein is a very common name in the Middle East, much like Johnson or Smith here in America. Educated people understand Obama's real background. Educated people realize a man's name does not dictate his politics or agendas. Educated people would understand Obama's father giving him, as a middle name, the name of, perhaps, an ancestor.

-gary

[ad4mg]

There is only one reason to use Obama's middle name, and that is an attempt to promote the false innuendo that he is Islamic, extremist Islamic, or at least Arabic. The last time I checked, he was an American citizen.

When you don't have a rational argument about his policies or plans, you can always plant some false innuendo based on his name.

Only ignorant people would believe and promote such misinformation.

Educated people know that Hussein is a very common name in the Middle East, much like Johnson or Smith here in America. Educated people understand Obama's real background. Educated people realize a man's name does not dictate his politics or agendas. Educated people would understand Obama's father giving him, as a middle name, the name of, perhaps, an ancestor.

-gary

"New World Order Conservatives", being racially prejudiced, easily fall prey to grade school rhetoric such as this.

[NL7W]

There is only one reason to use Obama's middle name, and that is an attempt to promote the false innuendo that he is Islamic, extremist Islamic, or at least Arabic. The last time I checked, he was an American citizen.

When you don't have a rational argument about his policies or plans, you can always plant some false innuendo based on his name.

Only ignorant people would believe and promote such misinformation.

Educated people know that Hussein is a very common name in the Middle East, much like Johnson or Smith here in America. Educated people understand Obama's real background. Educated people realize a man's name does not dictate his politics or agendas. Educated people would understand Obama's father giving him, as a middle name, the name of, perhaps, an ancestor.

-gary

Yes... let's just ignore his Islamic middle name. We'll just ignore his long-lost father's heritage. It doesn't exist. We've assigned Tricky Dicky's middle name to him as great cover. Milhaus it is...

We'll also ignore those questioning the fidelity of the "Christian" church he attends, and his beliefs. Questioning any candidate's religious affiliation and beliefs is wrong, and doesn't have anyplace during this election cycle. Right... the hypocrisies never cease to amaze.

The MSM instinctively knows they should never breach that subject with the Dumbocratic candidates. OTOH, it's fair game and incessant for all other candidates, despite their long list of government, executive, and private sector credentials and accomplishments as compared to the inexperienced and leftist Dumbocrat candidates.

You would think educated men and women equally apply same serious and thoughtful questions to candidates of both political persuasions. But being so educated and politically astute, the MSM knows better than to ask the same difficult questions of their own kind, lest be castigated and expelled from Club Liberal Elite.



Toodles.

[nx6d]

Typical bleating from Frozen Steve and his fellow travelers:

"MOM! It isn't FAIR" WAAAA!

"The MEAN MSM isn't being nice to me"! MOM!

Extremely weak...

Yes... let's just ignore his Islamic middle name. We'll just ignore his long-lost father's heritage. It doesn't exist. We've assigned Tricky Dicky's middle name to him as great cover. Milhaus it is...

We'll also ignore those questioning the fidelity of the "Christian" church he attends, and his beliefs. Questioning any candidate's religious affiliation and beliefs is wrong, and doesn't have anyplace during this election cycle. Right... the hypocrisies never cease to amaze.

The MSM instinctively knows they should never breach that subject with the Dumbocratic candidates. OTOH, it's fair game and incessant for all other candidates, despite their long list of government, executive, and private sector credentials and accomplishments as compared to the inexperienced and leftist Dumbocrat candidates.

You would think educated men and women equally apply same serious and thoughtful questions to candidates of both political persuasions. But being so educated and politically astute, the MSM knows better than to ask the same difficult questions of their own kind, lest be castigated and expelled from Club Liberal Elite.



Toodles.

[nx6d]

"New World Order Conservatives", being racially prejudiced, easily fall prey to grade school rhetoric such as this.

Of course they do. They don't have anything else.

It's astounding the amount of jingoistic hate noise that eminates from so-called "conservatives". This brouhaha over Barack Obama's middle name is classic. Get all the single digit IQ types in a frenzy over the name "Hussein". Maybe they'll all go to their bunkers and never come out.

Since the dawn of the Limbaugh era, we've had to put up with this nonsense. Now, thanks to "Faux News", we get the same propaganda on TV, too. There's always a group of dummies out there willing to buy into this stuff. Seems like a lot of them hang out right here on QRZ.

For the Cincy area station, Bill Cunningham wouldn't know "truth" if it smacked him in the face. He's a cheap Bill O'Reilly wannabe who taps into the fears and prejudices of his brain dead "audience".

Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA

[K2WH]

I want to know why Hussein (sorry, Barack) is always referred to as black man when he is just as much a white man ? This is so confusing.

K2WH

[ad4mg]

I want to know why Hussein (sorry, Barack) is always referred to as black man when he is just as much a white man ? This is so confusing.

K2WH

I want to know what drives your relentless fixation with race and gender. It makes you appear uneducated.

[W3MIV]

I want to know what drives your relentless fixation with race and gender. It makes you appear uneducated.

You have answered your own question.

[N8UZE]

Educated people know that Hussein is a very common name in the Middle East, much like Johnson or Smith here in America. Educated people understand Obama's real background. Educated people realize a man's name does not dictate his politics or agendas. Educated people would understand Obama's father giving him, as a middle name, the name of, perhaps, an ancestor.

-gary

Even if it were a rare name, it shouldn't matter.

[W3MIV]

Even if it were a rare name, it shouldn't matter.

That is exactly the point. But to a degraded sort of mind, it DOES matter.

The sole rationale behind the emphasis on the name is a desire to inflame a controversy by equating Obama with the radical Islamic extremists with which he has no demonstrated attachment or allegiance. This is, more than anything else, hard evidence of the paucity of both the merit and the ethics that undergird the arguments offered by the expected clique of racists, xenophobes and pithecanthropine recidivists who populate this forum and freely distribute their atavistic scat in lieu of any credible argument.

"By their fruits shall ye know them." And their fruits stink worse than gingko.

[K4GUN]

I think we should just start calling him by his initials. Then we could ask what BO says about HRC today. BO would be all over Texas. Republicans would be worried about how to get rid of BO before the election. BO would take over the Northeast states but wouldn't be sniffed at by many in the South except maybe in Florida.

[N8UZE]

I think we should just start calling him by his initials. Then we could ask what BO says about HRC today. BO would be all over Texas. Republicans would be worried about how to get rid of BO before the election. BO would take over the Northeast states but wouldn't be sniffed at by many in the South except maybe in Florida.

Now be fair. It's either BO vs HC or BHO versus HRC. It wouldn't be right to pit BO against HRC.

[N2RJ]

I want to know why Hussein (sorry, Barack) is always referred to as black man when he is just as much a white man ? This is so confusing.

K2WH

Because for many, anyone with even a drop of black blood was considered to be black.

Besides, just look at him. If you saw him, what would you think of him as? A black man or a white man?

[N3ATS]

I would think of him as an African-American Ryan! :D

He's a black guy.

[VK3ZL]

This thread once more reeks of good old fashioned racism..

[N2RJ]

I think we should just start calling him by his initials. Then we could ask what BO says about HRC today. BO would be all over Texas. Republicans would be worried about how to get rid of BO before the election. BO would take over the Northeast states but wouldn't be sniffed at by many in the South except maybe in Florida.

If you associate Barack Obama with Body Odor, I can guarantee that you'll be labeled a racist.

Guaranteed.

[kc2orw]

If you associate Barack Obama with Body Odor, I can guarantee that you'll be labeled a racist.

Guaranteed.
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, who knows maybe he just has BO and stinks :D

[VK3ZL]

What's offensive about it ??

Nothing.It is the name he was given at birth.

For many of us outside the USA reading all the various news articles and reply's and threads like these on QRZ, the impression we get is that there are a lot of bigoted and small minded people in the USA.So every time a new racist comment regarding Obama,veiled or otherwise appears, it just reinforces the belief that some of the USA population has very narrow views.

I guess it wouldn't be much different if a candidate had a Japanese or Indian name even if he was US born and deeply christian..

Small minds..

[KA8DKT]

Yes... let's just ignore his Islamic middle name. We'll just ignore his long-lost father's heritage. It doesn't exist. We've assigned Tricky Dicky's middle name to him as great cover. Milhaus it is...

We'll also ignore those questioning the fidelity of the "Christian" church he attends, and his beliefs. Questioning any candidate's religious affiliation and beliefs is wrong, and doesn't have anyplace during this election cycle. Right... the hypocrisies never cease to amaze.

The MSM instinctively knows they should never breach that subject with the Dumbocratic candidates. OTOH, it's fair game and incessant for all other candidates, despite their long list of government, executive, and private sector credentials and accomplishments as compared to the inexperienced and leftist Dumbocrat candidates.

You would think educated men and women equally apply same serious and thoughtful questions to candidates of both political persuasions. But being so educated and politically astute, the MSM knows better than to ask the same difficult questions of their own kind, lest be castigated and expelled from Club Liberal Elite.



Toodles.You'd think that educated men would research Obama's history, and upon not finding anything unusual would move on to issues. I am amazed that this business implying that he is Islamic (and I suppose by innuendo, extremist Islamic) is still going on. I haven't listened to Rush for a while, is this one of his creations?

When the people were trying to point out that bush had misspent his youth doing coke and alcohol to an extreme, that every business he started failed, that he still seemed to not be past the frat boy stage in his life, guys like you got all offended. And these are not allegations, they are facts.

So now after checking out Obama the best as I can and finding that the allegations of him being Islamic seemed to be not true according to every credible biography and history of his life, I am showing hypocracy?

Frankly I don't much care what his religion is. My father was a Methodist. I am not a Methodist. Obama's father was by all serious accounts a non-practicing Muslim. I think I can believe that. What active and serious Muslim would marry an atheist, which by all accounts was the choice of his mother. I have yet to see a single fact from a reliable source that supports Obama being some kind of evil person.

I don't know what McCain's religion is except that he claims to be a Christian. He reportedly goes to church. Maybe we should check that more closely. It would be fun to find that he did not spend every Sunday morning in church. Then we could say he is a liar because he claims to be a Christian but doesn't go to church all the time. Is this what you are suggesting we do? How about Hillary. What church does she go to? Do we even care?

I think you are another one of those who claims that America is a "Christian Nation", founded by Christians. The founders were not Christians. Surprise.

-gary

[K3XR]

And the true bigots are, the LIBS, but you knew that.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-war-room-calls-obama-a-bigot/print/

[ad4mg]

And the true bigots are, the LIBS, but you knew that.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-war-room-calls-obama-a-bigot/print/

I'll take your word for it. Judging by one of your recent threads, you're the consummate expert here on bigotry, racism, and prejudice.

[AE6IP]

Yes... let's just ignore his Islamic middle name.

Your ignorance is showing. "Hussein" is not an "Islamic" name. It's an Arabic middle name. Not all adherents of Islam are Arabic, nor all Arabs adherents; but don't let knowledge get in the way of your bigotry.

We'll just ignore his long-lost father's heritage. It doesn't exist.

We'll ignore his long-lost father, who did, indeed, exist. But we'll do it because the man had no influence, beyond genetics, on his son.

We'll also ignore those questioning the fidelity of the "Christian" church he attends, and his beliefs.

You go ahead and ignore it. I've checked it and found it perfectly typical moderate Christian behavior.

You would think educated men and women equally apply same serious and thoughtful questions to candidates of both political persuasions.

It's "all" political persuasions, and we do apply the same serious and thoughtful questions. But once they're answered, and all of the accusations against Obama have been well answered long ago, we move on to other serious and thoughtful questions.

"Is his middle name Islamic" is not a serious or thoughtful question, with respect to presidential qualifications, by the way.

[KU0DM]

I'll take your word for it. Judging by one of your recent threads, you're the consummate expert here on bigotry, racism, and prejudice.

You forgot he is also the expert on everything else, knows the answer, but won't tell us and lies that he doesn't know the answer.

He is a NeoCon too.

That is my opinion of the Republican party and their expertise, not Danny himself.

[N9MOQ]

An interesting observation. After reading through the comments here on why it was wrong to use Barack's middle name, some are suggesting that this was an attempt by Barack's oponents to make a comparison of Barack to Muslims and/or terrorists, or perhaps try to make a connection to Saddam "Hussein".

Why has no one suggested that the use of his last name could also be an attack against the senator, in a dirty attempt to try and associate him with Muslims, terrorists, or "Osama" Bin Laden?

Will we soon see news reports like this....


Apologies for Using Barack's LAST Name

WASHINGTON -- Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan formally denounced on Friday the use of Barack's last name in a recent news release.

The news release now includes a clarification that reads, "In order to diffuse attempts to divert attention from the main point of this release -- we have deleted the use of Barack's last name and apologize."

He denied that the use of Barack's last name carried any racial overtones.

"We can't help that the senator's last name sounds similar to "Osama" but what else are we supposed to call him now? "Mr Candidate"?

The news release, however, drew a sharp rebuke Friday from Tennessee Democratic Party Chairman Gray Sasser, who said it "amplifies misinformation, discredited tall tales and Internet innuendo to appeal to the worst in people."

Though it was issued Friday, the release came under fresh scrutiny after conservative talk radio host Bill Cunningham, who repeatedly used Barack's middle name at a former campaign event last week, had not learned his lesson and was now repeating Barack's LAST name over and over again, while describing Barack "Obama" as a politician who had yet to be challenged by the media.

[K3XR]

The true racists, the LIBS, at it again.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/hillary-camp-admits-to-darkening-obama-in-ad

[N8UZE]

Almost any time that a person's middle name or initial(s) are used, there is a reason for it. Sometimes it is simply for clarification (John Adams versus John Quincy Adams or George H.W. Bush versus George Bush). Other times it is to express displeasure as when your parents start off a tirade with your full name (I think we all remember those). Other times it is to express solidarity with a certain group (perhaps Hillary Rodham Clinton trying to appeal to the women who participated in women's lib). Sometimes to attempt to manipulate an audience (perhaps this is the case with the speaker using Obama's middle name).

[N9XR]

Almost any time that a person's middle name or initial(s) are used, there is a reason for it. Sometimes it is simply for clarification (John Adams versus John Quincy Adams or George H.W. Bush versus George Bush). Other times it is to express displeasure as when your parents start off a tirade with your full name (I think we all remember those). Other times it is to express solidarity with a certain group (perhaps Hillary Rodham Clinton trying to appeal to the women who participated in women's lib). Sometimes to attempt to manipulate an audience (perhaps this is the case with the speaker using Obama's middle name).

Many of these guys are easy to whip into a frenzy.

Gorsh. Lihbruls want to take away my gones. Ain't dey red the seccond commandment?

Wid a name like Hussein, he must be a mosleem. He wint to a skool where dey teech ya ta reed an rite. Nuthin I am entrested eon.

[kf6rdn]

I'd prefer his middle name.

His first name sounds like a rip roarin belch!

[ac4ut]

I told you guys it would just be simpler to nominate Edwards.