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k9kxq
02-21-2008, 02:15 AM
The New York Times just released a story on McCain and Vicki Iseman female lobbyist during the 2000 campaign...
link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
kxq
what now?????
kc2orw
02-21-2008, 02:35 AM
Hmm tisk tisk tisk :D
k9kxq
02-21-2008, 02:41 AM
Hmm tisk tisk tisk :D
I'm just the messenger! but if this proves to be of substance and McCain has had romantic relations, or done special favors for this lobbyist then it's over for McCain...
I do not hold The NYT as the gospel but it's NEWS...
kxq
w4nti
02-21-2008, 02:48 AM
And just exactly IS THE FRIGGIN NEWS?
Yep...no doubt about it. Liberalism is a mental disease.
Dan/W4NTI
k9kxq
02-21-2008, 02:53 AM
And just exactly IS THE FRIGGIN NEWS?
Yep...no doubt about it. Liberalism is a mental disease.
Dan/W4NTI
Dumbass go to the link...
kxq
News yes.
Big news? No.
I suppose we could impeach him if they find a dress... oh yeh, he's not in yet is he. Worse yet, this was in 2000.
Sheesh MSNBC wasted 45 minutes of my time with this. It'll be the Daily Show tomorrow.
k9kxq
02-21-2008, 02:58 AM
News yes.
Big news? No.
I suppose we could impeach him if they find a dress... oh yeh, he's not in yet is he. Worse yet, this was in 2000.
Sheesh MSNBC wasted 45 minutes of my time with this. It'll be the Daily Show tomorrow.
Same here John, I don't put alot of faith in the Times, but yes it is NEWS...
kxq
KD8HMO
02-21-2008, 03:01 AM
So if Mccain cheats on his wife its bad, but if Bill Clinton cheats with his bimbos, he gets a pass...
k9kxq
02-21-2008, 03:04 AM
So if Mccain cheats on his wife its bad, but if Bill Clinton cheats with his bimbos, he gets a pass...
Fill me in there Mister Wizzard, where did Bill Clinton get a pass????
kxq
So if Mccain cheats on his wife its bad, but if Bill Clinton cheats with his bimbos, he gets a pass...
Let me fix that for you...
So if Clinton cheats on his wife its bad, but if Newt Gingrich cheats with bimbos, he gets a pass...
Much better.
k9kxq
02-21-2008, 03:10 AM
Let me fix that for you...
So if Clinton cheats on his wife its bad, but if Newt Gingrich cheats with bimbos, he gets a pass...
Much better.
That works for me John...
kxq
KI4ITV
02-21-2008, 03:12 AM
Well, if this ruins his political career, I guess he could take Bob Dole's place as psuedopharmacal sex god.
That works for me John...
kxq
It's nice to know that a partisian impeachment vote is a 'pass' to some.
LOL!:D
Well, if this ruins his political career, I guess he could take Bob Dole's place as psuedopharmacal sex god.
Except he's got the same robot like reflexes as Dr. Evil doing the macarena. :D
kc2orw
02-21-2008, 03:51 AM
I'm just the messenger! but if this proves to be of substance and McCain has had romantic relations, or done special favors for this lobbyist then it's over for McCain...
I do not hold The NYT as the gospel but it's NEWS...
kxq
Trust me I really didn't doubt that McCain was a NeoCon Phony but I didn't have enough on him to make saying so worth my effort. So we now have something that really paints him in a bad light, oh also the reports are now saying she is a lobbyist. Tisk tisk tisk Big Bad John ce'st la vie oh well he could barely collect enough money to actually campaign worth a damn. You can take that in several ways but Republicans have been down in money and turn out this year, that tells ya something don't it...
KG4JYD
02-21-2008, 04:02 AM
Just goes to show that McCain is no better than the Democrats :rolleyes:
W4DFW
02-21-2008, 04:15 AM
Dumbass go to the link...
kxq
Said like someone who truly respects the truth. :rolleyes:
The Time's article is almost completely devoid of substantive links documenting the allegations. Once again, Lib'rul lunes suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome seek to shape the Presidential election in a fashion not unlike Dan Rather and his "document" regarding Bush's military career.
Is there an elected official in Washington that doesn't have a relationship with lobbyists? Can you say CLINTON?? HELLO!!??!!??
At some point, the NY Times is going to have to answer with substance these allegations, but of course, they will claim "privilege" so they don't have to reveal their sources.
I'm no McCain fan, but the NY Times is scum lower than a snake's belly.
Bob Bennett has already come out against the NY Times stupidity and Bennett is no friend to the Republican Party, but someone who independently investigated McCain and found nothing of substance.
Once again, we see great evidence of Dumbocrat Lib'rul Lunes searching for better ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Keep it up, NY Times! You guys seriously need to get over you BDS.
............Bob
k9kxq
02-21-2008, 05:11 AM
Said like someone who truly respects the truth. :rolleyes:
The Time's article is almost completely devoid of substantive links documenting the allegations. Once again, Lib'rul lunes suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome seek to shape the Presidential election in a fashion not unlike Dan Rather and his "document" regarding Bush's military career.
Is there an elected official in Washington that doesn't have a relationship with lobbyists? Can you say CLINTON?? HELLO!!??!!??
At some point, the NY Times is going to have to answer with substance these allegations, but of course, they will claim "privilege" so they don't have to reveal their sources.
I'm no McCain fan, but the NY Times is scum lower than a snake's belly.
Bob Bennett has already come out against the NY Times stupidity and Bennett is no friend to the Republican Party, but someone who independently investigated McCain and found nothing of substance.
Once again, we see great evidence of Dumbocrat Lib'rul Lunes searching for better ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Keep it up, NY Times! You guys seriously need to get over you BDS.
............Bob
Again! Dumbass, I'm just the messenger...
kxq
Didn't take the NY Slimes and the LIB media long, did it?
Georgie Porgie's take....
http://newsbusters.org/node/19362/print
kc2orw
02-21-2008, 08:53 PM
Here is a snippet from a story available at the times today while it doesn't prove anything it sure doesn't show John McCain as some kind of saint.
Mr. McCain started his career like many other aspiring politicians, eagerly courting the wealthy and powerful. A Vietnam war hero and Senate liaison for the Navy, he arrived in Arizona in 1980 after his second marriage, to Cindy Hensley, the heiress to a beer fortune there. He quickly started looking for a Congressional district where he could run.
Mr. Keating, a Phoenix financier and real estate developer, became an early sponsor and, soon, a friend. He was a man of great confidence and daring, Mr. McCain recalled in his memoir. “People like that appeal to me,” he continued. “I have sometimes forgotten that wisdom and a strong sense of public responsibility are much more admirable qualities.”
During Mr. McCain’s four years in the House, Mr. Keating, his family and his business associates contributed heavily to his political campaigns. The banker gave Mr. McCain free rides on his private jet, a violation of Congressional ethics rules (he later said it was an oversight and paid for the trips). They vacationed together in the Bahamas. And in 1986, the year Mr. McCain was elected to the Senate, his wife joined Mr. Keating in investing in an Arizona shopping mall.
Mr. Keating had taken over the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association and used its federally insured deposits to gamble on risky real estate and other investments. He pressed Mr. McCain and other lawmakers to help hold back federal banking regulators.
For years, Mr. McCain complied. At Mr. Keating’s request, he wrote several letters to regulators, introduced legislation and helped secure the nomination of a Keating associate to a banking regulatory board.
By early 1987, though, the thrift was careering toward disaster. Mr. McCain agreed to join several senators, eventually known as the Keating Five, for two private meetings with regulators to urge them to ease up. “Why didn’t I fully grasp the unusual appearance of such a meeting?” Mr. McCain later lamented in his memoir.
When Lincoln went bankrupt in 1989 — one of the biggest collapses of the savings and loan crisis, costing taxpayers $3.4 billion — the Keating Five became infamous. The scandal sent Mr. Keating to prison and ended the careers of three senators, who were censured in 1991 for intervening. Mr. McCain, who had been a less aggressive advocate for Mr. Keating than the others, was reprimanded only for “poor judgment” and was re-elected the next year.
Some people involved think Mr. McCain got off too lightly. William Black, one of the banking regulators the senator met with, argued that Mrs. McCain’s investment with Mr. Keating created an obvious conflict of interest for her husband. (Mr. McCain had said a prenuptial agreement divided the couple’s assets.) He should not be able to “put this behind him,” Mr. Black said. “It sullied his integrity.”
Mr. McCain has since described the episode as a unique humiliation. “If I do not repress the memory, its recollection still provokes a vague but real feeling that I had lost something very important,” he wrote in his memoir. “I still wince thinking about it.”
It may even remind some about some old history that some may not have realized McCain was involved in, he wasn't quite the household name back then as he is today.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
Rush gets is right, again....
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/21/rush-rallies-to-mavericks-side/?print=1
kc2orw
02-21-2008, 08:58 PM
Rush gets is right, again....
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/21/rush-rallies-to-mavericks-side/?print=1
Trust me goober there is way more to come :D
What else will we learn??
http://newsbusters.org/node/19374/print
kc2orw
02-21-2008, 09:15 PM
What else will we learn??
http://newsbusters.org/node/19374/print
Goober it isn't about the sex it is about Mr. Straight Talk actually looking more like Mr Big BS., Critical litigation may never be the outcome but straight talk looks more like forked tongue :D
"Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=56964
k9kxq
02-21-2008, 09:56 PM
Goober it isn't about the sex it is about Mr. Straight Talk actually looking more like Mr Big BS., Critical litigation may never be the outcome but straight talk looks more like forked tongue :D
LMAO... he won't understand that, Goober is too set in his ways...
kxq
Will the NY Slimes hit piece on McCain have him looking to Conservatives for help??
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3C7E194E-3048-5C12-00F5BF8055956BA3
N7RJD
02-21-2008, 11:02 PM
Bottom line, if McCain is truly a Republican there is no way this is true. While she may be a lobbyist she most certainly is not a little boy.
W4DFW
02-21-2008, 11:44 PM
Again! Dumbass, I'm just the messenger...
kxq
I was responding to your obviously eloquent command of the English language.
............Bob (wondering why lib's so often resort to name calling :confused: )
kc2orw
02-22-2008, 12:50 AM
Reposted:
PS: Yes it is a smear but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving fellow.
Here is a snippet from a story available at the times today while it doesn't prove anything as far as the core story goes it does paint an alternate view of John McCain that most haven't heard or some may have forgotten, he is no saint.
Mr. McCain started his career like many other aspiring politicians, eagerly courting the wealthy and powerful. A Vietnam war hero and Senate liaison for the Navy, he arrived in Arizona in 1980 after his second marriage, to Cindy Hensley, the heiress to a beer fortune there. He quickly started looking for a Congressional district where he could run.
Mr. Keating, a Phoenix financier and real estate developer, became an early sponsor and, soon, a friend. He was a man of great confidence and daring, Mr. McCain recalled in his memoir. “People like that appeal to me,” he continued. “I have sometimes forgotten that wisdom and a strong sense of public responsibility are much more admirable qualities.”
During Mr. McCain’s four years in the House, Mr. Keating, his family and his business associates contributed heavily to his political campaigns. The banker gave Mr. McCain free rides on his private jet, a violation of Congressional ethics rules (he later said it was an oversight and paid for the trips). They vacationed together in the Bahamas. And in 1986, the year Mr. McCain was elected to the Senate, his wife joined Mr. Keating in investing in an Arizona shopping mall.
Mr. Keating had taken over the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association and used its federally insured deposits to gamble on risky real estate and other investments. He pressed Mr. McCain and other lawmakers to help hold back federal banking regulators.
For years, Mr. McCain complied. At Mr. Keating’s request, he wrote several letters to regulators, introduced legislation and helped secure the nomination of a Keating associate to a banking regulatory board.
By early 1987, though, the thrift was careering toward disaster. Mr. McCain agreed to join several senators, eventually known as the Keating Five, for two private meetings with regulators to urge them to ease up. “Why didn’t I fully grasp the unusual appearance of such a meeting?” Mr. McCain later lamented in his memoir.
When Lincoln went bankrupt in 1989 — one of the biggest collapses of the savings and loan crisis, costing taxpayers $3.4 billion — the Keating Five became infamous. The scandal sent Mr. Keating to prison and ended the careers of three senators, who were censured in 1991 for intervening. Mr. McCain, who had been a less aggressive advocate for Mr. Keating than the others, was reprimanded only for “poor judgment” and was re-elected the next year.
Some people involved think Mr. McCain got off too lightly. William Black, one of the banking regulators the senator met with, argued that Mrs. McCain’s investment with Mr. Keating created an obvious conflict of interest for her husband. (Mr. McCain had said a prenuptial agreement divided the couple’s assets.) He should not be able to “put this behind him,” Mr. Black said. “It sullied his integrity.”
Mr. McCain has since described the episode as a unique humiliation. “If I do not repress the memory, its recollection still provokes a vague but real feeling that I had lost something very important,” he wrote in his memoir. “I still wince thinking about it.”
It may even remind some about some old history that some may not have realized McCain was involved in, he wasn't quite the household name back then as he is today.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
Wow, anybody see McCain on the news tonight? He was really unconvincing. He seemed like someone caught with their hand in the pickle jar. Maybe this is a big story.
ad4mg
02-22-2008, 01:37 AM
Wow, anybody see McCain on the news tonight? He was really unconvincing. He seemed like someone caught with their hand in the pickle jar. Maybe this is a big story.
It may or may not be, but it really won't matter.
Remember the "swift boating" of Kerry?
Enjoy, neoboyz. Payback is a bitch!
And before anyone gets their panties in a knot, I've noted k2wh using that particular term numerous times referring to Mrs. Clinton, so it's obviously OK.
KD4LEI
02-22-2008, 02:40 AM
are the days of our lives...
:D
KD4LEI
02-22-2008, 02:47 AM
Unless Hillary pulls out a miracle comeback... We're going to have Obama in the Oval Office this time next year. I can say that with a good amount of certainty. History will be made...
McCain is going to get blown out against Obama. I can see that coming and anyone else keen on what is going on can too.
If McCain tries to argue he did this that and the other to say he helped the conservative cause, Obama will let him have it on his actual voting record. His reaching across the aisle will be his downfall. Conservatives will have none of it and the liberals have a TON of fodder to lay out their case against him.
Sit back and tighten that seatbelt folks. It's going to be a wild ride...
k4kyv
02-22-2008, 03:37 AM
Let the sex and private personal life scandals begin... You ain't seen nothin' yet. Just wait till they know for sure whether it's Obama or Hillery nominated.
KD4LEI
02-22-2008, 03:54 AM
Let the sex and private personal life scandals begin... You ain't seen nothin' yet. Just wait till they know for sure whether it's Obama or Hillery nominated.
That this old style of mudslinging won't fly much anymore. That remains to be seen. Who really knows...
NY Slimes, "Typhoid Mary"
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=3D12DA66-B2AB-46A5-8E51-A491E2F6E87E
I was responding to your obviously eloquent command of the English language.
............Bob (wondering why lib's so often resort to name calling :confused: )
That's funny.
You can't say anything without your silly supposed insults, and dumb psuedo southern word contractions.
The "high road" you're on is six feet under water, station. Get a snorkel.
Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA
kc2orw
02-22-2008, 02:08 PM
Reposted:
PS: Yes it is a smear but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving fellow.
Here is a snippet from a story available at the times today while it doesn't prove anything as far as the core story goes it does paint an alternate view of John McCain that most haven't heard or some may have forgotten, he is no saint.
Mr. McCain started his career like many other aspiring politicians, eagerly courting the wealthy and powerful. A Vietnam war hero and Senate liaison for the Navy, he arrived in Arizona in 1980 after his second marriage, to Cindy Hensley, the heiress to a beer fortune there. He quickly started looking for a Congressional district where he could run.
Mr. Keating, a Phoenix financier and real estate developer, became an early sponsor and, soon, a friend. He was a man of great confidence and daring, Mr. McCain recalled in his memoir. “People like that appeal to me,” he continued. “I have sometimes forgotten that wisdom and a strong sense of public responsibility are much more admirable qualities.”
During Mr. McCain’s four years in the House, Mr. Keating, his family and his business associates contributed heavily to his political campaigns. The banker gave Mr. McCain free rides on his private jet, a violation of Congressional ethics rules (he later said it was an oversight and paid for the trips). They vacationed together in the Bahamas. And in 1986, the year Mr. McCain was elected to the Senate, his wife joined Mr. Keating in investing in an Arizona shopping mall.
Mr. Keating had taken over the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association and used its federally insured deposits to gamble on risky real estate and other investments. He pressed Mr. McCain and other lawmakers to help hold back federal banking regulators.
For years, Mr. McCain complied. At Mr. Keating’s request, he wrote several letters to regulators, introduced legislation and helped secure the nomination of a Keating associate to a banking regulatory board.
By early 1987, though, the thrift was careering toward disaster. Mr. McCain agreed to join several senators, eventually known as the Keating Five, for two private meetings with regulators to urge them to ease up. “Why didn’t I fully grasp the unusual appearance of such a meeting?” Mr. McCain later lamented in his memoir.
When Lincoln went bankrupt in 1989 — one of the biggest collapses of the savings and loan crisis, costing taxpayers $3.4 billion — the Keating Five became infamous. The scandal sent Mr. Keating to prison and ended the careers of three senators, who were censured in 1991 for intervening. Mr. McCain, who had been a less aggressive advocate for Mr. Keating than the others, was reprimanded only for “poor judgment” and was re-elected the next year.
Some people involved think Mr. McCain got off too lightly. William Black, one of the banking regulators the senator met with, argued that Mrs. McCain’s investment with Mr. Keating created an obvious conflict of interest for her husband. (Mr. McCain had said a prenuptial agreement divided the couple’s assets.) He should not be able to “put this behind him,” Mr. Black said. “It sullied his integrity.”
Mr. McCain has since described the episode as a unique humiliation. “If I do not repress the memory, its recollection still provokes a vague but real feeling that I had lost something very important,” he wrote in his memoir. “I still wince thinking about it.”
It may even remind some about some old history that some may not have realized McCain was involved in, he wasn't quite the household name back then as he is today.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
It may or may not be, but it really won't matter.
Remember the "swift boating" of Kerry?
Enjoy, neoboyz. Payback is a bitch!
And before anyone gets their panties in a knot, I've noted k2wh using that particular term numerous times referring to Mrs. Clinton, so it's obviously OK.
Very interesting, for you to would point out, that the nation's leading newspaper, with an obligation of fair and balanced reporting, for all it's readers, is doing no more than "swift boating", says a great deal for the NY Slimes.
ad4mg
02-22-2008, 02:32 PM
Very interesting, for you to would point out, that the nation's leading newspaper, with an obligation of fair and balanced reporting, for all it's readers, is doing no more than "swift boating", says a great deal for the NY Slimes.
OK, and your statement speaks volumes of the swift boat folks ... obviously if my statement is being interpreted in such that I am stating the NYT is "swift boating", then yours says much the same thing about the lying neocons of yesteryear.
Nice try, oh master of the link.
BTW - Very nice picture in the avatar!
KW4MW
02-22-2008, 02:36 PM
I have to ask these questions:
Why is such a potentially damaging story to McCains run at the presidency being divulged so soon? Wouldn't it be a bit more expedient to hold off publishing the story until Oct.? The Times is famous for its uncanny timing of publishing politically damaging stories against conservative/republican candidates in order to promote their favored liberal candidates.
Could it be that the story has been released in order to get the rino liberals in OH and TX to cross over and vote for Hillary (or Obama)?
Could it be that McCains staff has released this story themselves, knowing that (a) the Dems intended to use it later in the campaign and (b) the American public has short memories?
Many ex presidents have cheated on their wives before. So what?
What has that got to do with their ability to do the job.
I don't like McCain at all so don't get me wrong.
Many like to judge others on issues like this. I could care less.
kg6amw
02-22-2008, 02:59 PM
The New York Times ran a piece of gossipy nonsense that doesn't even have the courage to allege what it only implies. Two self-described "disillusioned" former staffers who won't go on the record alleged -- what? -- that McCain had an affair? No. That McCain did favors for a romantic paramour? No. The Times reported that these two staffers somehow got past Mark Salter and John Weaver to stage a confrontation with McCain over their concerns that McCain might have possibly started to get close to thinking about a romance with Vicki Iseman. For this, the Times offer no corroboration.
kc2orw
02-22-2008, 03:45 PM
Reposted:
PS: Yes it is a smear but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving fellow.
Here is a snippet from a story available at the times today while it doesn't prove anything as far as the core story goes it does paint an alternate view of John McCain that most haven't heard or some may have forgotten, he is no saint.
Mr. McCain started his career like many other aspiring politicians, eagerly courting the wealthy and powerful. A Vietnam war hero and Senate liaison for the Navy, he arrived in Arizona in 1980 after his second marriage, to Cindy Hensley, the heiress to a beer fortune there. He quickly started looking for a Congressional district where he could run.
Mr. Keating, a Phoenix financier and real estate developer, became an early sponsor and, soon, a friend. He was a man of great confidence and daring, Mr. McCain recalled in his memoir. “People like that appeal to me,” he continued. “I have sometimes forgotten that wisdom and a strong sense of public responsibility are much more admirable qualities.”
During Mr. McCain’s four years in the House, Mr. Keating, his family and his business associates contributed heavily to his political campaigns. The banker gave Mr. McCain free rides on his private jet, a violation of Congressional ethics rules (he later said it was an oversight and paid for the trips). They vacationed together in the Bahamas. And in 1986, the year Mr. McCain was elected to the Senate, his wife joined Mr. Keating in investing in an Arizona shopping mall.
Mr. Keating had taken over the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association and used its federally insured deposits to gamble on risky real estate and other investments. He pressed Mr. McCain and other lawmakers to help hold back federal banking regulators.
For years, Mr. McCain complied. At Mr. Keating’s request, he wrote several letters to regulators, introduced legislation and helped secure the nomination of a Keating associate to a banking regulatory board.
By early 1987, though, the thrift was careering toward disaster. Mr. McCain agreed to join several senators, eventually known as the Keating Five, for two private meetings with regulators to urge them to ease up. “Why didn’t I fully grasp the unusual appearance of such a meeting?” Mr. McCain later lamented in his memoir.
When Lincoln went bankrupt in 1989 — one of the biggest collapses of the savings and loan crisis, costing taxpayers $3.4 billion — the Keating Five became infamous. The scandal sent Mr. Keating to prison and ended the careers of three senators, who were censured in 1991 for intervening. Mr. McCain, who had been a less aggressive advocate for Mr. Keating than the others, was reprimanded only for “poor judgment” and was re-elected the next year.
Some people involved think Mr. McCain got off too lightly. William Black, one of the banking regulators the senator met with, argued that Mrs. McCain’s investment with Mr. Keating created an obvious conflict of interest for her husband. (Mr. McCain had said a prenuptial agreement divided the couple’s assets.) He should not be able to “put this behind him,” Mr. Black said. “It sullied his integrity.”
Mr. McCain has since described the episode as a unique humiliation. “If I do not repress the memory, its recollection still provokes a vague but real feeling that I had lost something very important,” he wrote in his memoir. “I still wince thinking about it.”
It may even remind some about some old history that some may not have realized McCain was involved in, he wasn't quite the household name back then as he is today.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
W3MIV
02-22-2008, 04:11 PM
Reposted:
PS: Yes it is a smear but it couldn't have happened to a more deserving fellow.
Here is a snippet from a story available at the times today while it doesn't prove anything as far as the core story goes it does paint an alternate view of John McCain that most haven't heard or some may have forgotten, he is no saint.
He is arguably a whole lot better man than they who delight in spreading smear campaigns. Though I am an Obama supporter, and I plan to vote for Obama, I would not stoop so low as you choose to stoop. As I recall, you are one of the primary deprecators of Karl Rove, yet have not the least compunction to bend over to the same tactics you condemn when it suits your narrow-minded views.
N0WVA
02-22-2008, 04:22 PM
I dont like McCain, but who cares what bimbo he is doing? There is so much of this stuff going on with these high profile people that I actually expect stories like this.
One thing I know for certain is we gotta get rid of this debt. And Bill was the first pres in 16 years to have a surplus, and he was the last. Its not coincidence and he didnt inherit that surplus from Bush seniors administration, either. There is no way you can have 20 years of republican rule and not one year have a surplus, then Bill gets into office and has a surplus?
Im not impressed with the Republicans at all, and McCain shows no evidence of breaking the cycle of mega-debt. Has nothing to do with cheating.
kc2orw
02-22-2008, 04:25 PM
He is arguably a whole lot better man than they who delight in spreading smear campaigns. Though I am an Obama supporter, and I plan to vote for Obama, I would not stoop so low as you choose to stoop. As I recall, you are one of the primary deprecators of Karl Rove, yet have not the least compunction to bend over to the same tactics you condemn when it suits your narrow-minded views.
Albert you are too much I simply posted the section about the history of John McCain. It is one that hasn't gotten much exposure but make note what I posted isn't about this current, so called, issue it is about his past. If you actually read it you might have reason to pause but like the rest of the McCain supporters you refuse to consider it.
If you think there is something to refute in what I posted feel free to post the exculpatory evidence...
I repeat the post over and over again because apparently some have blinders on, so be it.
W3MIV
02-22-2008, 04:34 PM
You can't even read, obviously. :p
Albert you are too much I simply posted the section about the history of John McCain. It is one that hasn't gotten much exposure but make note what I posted isn't about this current, so called, issue it is about his past. If you actually read it you might have reason to pause but like the rest of the McCain supporters you refuse to consider it.
If you think there is something to refute in what I posted feel free to post the exculpatory evidence...
I repeat the post over and over again because apparently some have blinders on, so be it.
kc2orw
02-22-2008, 04:39 PM
You can't even read, obviously. :p
Oh another non sequitur from you how surprising :rolleyes:
PS: If you mean your alleged claim to be a supporter of Obama the answer is simple I have my doubts :D
W3MIV
02-22-2008, 04:58 PM
PS: If you mean your alleged claim to be a supporter of Obama the answer is simple I have my doubts :D
More proof of a desire to make assumptions with no basis in fact or in reason. I am clearly on record with my support, just as you are clearly on record with shallow attempts to defame. The entire Keating fiasco happened twenty years ago, and McCain was cleared of any wrongdoing beyond simple naivety and stupidity -- which are not culpable, else you and the entire Congress would now be behind bars. :D
Please tell us all again how genuinely evil Karl Rove is, and how far above the muck you and the NYT stand in terms of ethical debate.
Incredible to me to see the number of people here and on the talk show circuit holding their hands over their ears screaming, "This is too much information. I can't handle this right now. I am too unstable." And "Why did the info come out now? Why didn't it come out earlier or later? Why right now at this minute and second?"
Then they turn on the messenger; a trick they claim that others do, but they confuse releasing good information with releasing bad information. So they belittle others who are light years beyond their own mental state.
Same old games never change.
W3MIV
02-22-2008, 06:31 PM
Sorry, Jerry, but this post makes no sense whatever.
Incredible to me to see the number of people here and on the talk show circuit holding their hands over their ears screaming, "This is too much information. I can't handle this right now. I am too unstable." And "Why did the info come out now? Why didn't it come out earlier or later? Why right now at this minute and second?"
Then they turn on the messenger; a trick they claim that others do, but they confuse releasing good information with releasing bad information. So they belittle others who are light years beyond their own mental state.
Same old games never change.
Sorry, Jerry, but this post makes no sense whatever.
There may be hope for you. I will not hold my breath.
k9kxq
02-22-2008, 07:02 PM
For me, this story is questionable, McCain may be a Bush clone, but to have some Bill Clinton in him is something else... lol, just thinking out loud gentlemen...
kxq
W3MIV
02-22-2008, 07:03 PM
There may be hope for you. I will not hold my breath.
Please don't. We'd miss having you to pick on. ;)
Please don't. We'd miss having you to pick on. ;)
Oww. That really hurt. I am in so much pain. Au Bon Pain.
W3MIV
02-22-2008, 07:16 PM
Oww. That really hurt. I am in so much pain. Au Bon Pain.
Careful of too much butter; it's not good for old men's hearts.
:p
Yo Nance, did the NY Slimes forget about you??
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/speaker_pelosi_and_the_new_yor.html
It may or may not be, but it really won't matter.
Remember the "swift boating" of Kerry?
Enjoy, neoboyz. Payback is a bitch!
And before anyone gets their panties in a knot, I've noted k2wh using that particular term numerous times referring to Mrs. Clinton, so it's obviously OK.
Did the man say "swift boat"??
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB120369981494086111.html
N7RJD
02-23-2008, 02:40 AM
Wow, anybody see McCain on the news tonight? He was really unconvincing. He seemed like someone caught with their hand in the pickle jar. Maybe this is a big story.
Give it a rest. He was just showing her how the enemy tied him up and tortured him in Vietnam. :D
NY Slimes, it's the readers fault.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/nyt-editor-says-readers-didnt-get-it
N1LAF
02-25-2008, 12:57 AM
Many ex presidents have cheated on their wives before. So what?
What has that got to do with their ability to do the job.
I don't like McCain at all so don't get me wrong.
Many like to judge others on issues like this. I could care less.
Such actions may make them vulnerable to blackmail by foreign agents.
That will affect their jobs, and don't forget national security.
W3MIV
02-25-2008, 01:46 AM
Such actions may make them vulnerable to blackmail by foreign agents.
That will affect their jobs, and don't forget national security.
You can't possibly believe such nonsense. No human, indeed, no mere anthropoid, could possibly be so gullible, so utterly credulous to believe such rubbish.
Are you a troll? Or a bumpkin? :confused:
N1LAF
02-25-2008, 03:57 AM
You can't possibly believe such nonsense. No human, indeed, no mere anthropoid, could possibly be so gullible, so utterly credulous to believe such rubbish.
Are you a troll? Or a bumpkin? :confused:
Informed.........
NY Slimes....."dirty".
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=25170
Phony docs Dan on the NY Slimes article.
http://newsbusters.org/node/19482/print
Rush is right.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/print/more-dirt-on-mccain/
General Strangelove and the Femi-Nazi-in-Chief on McCain.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/02/chickenhawk-v20-gloria-steinem-wes-clark-shrug-at-mccains-military-service/?print=1