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K0DXC
02-20-2008, 01:56 AM
I also posted this in the Ragchew section. I'm putting it here to ease up some possible tension from this years good ol' presidential candidates (Let's see Obama fix that! :D)
Hello All,
Recently in my US History Class I had to right a "28th amendment" or at least what I would like to be passed for number 28. We turned them in today and my teacher is going to be sending them into Washington D.C. for the big guys to read.
You're thinking, "Gosh no, Calvin running our country" :) don't worry, it probably won't be passed. I wrote saying that kids should only be required to go to school 4 out of every 5 days, or if they wanted they could go 5/5 but it was their choice. Kind of dumb, but I did it last minute and I couldn't think of anything better at the time (I hate homework :o)
Now for the question......... What would you like to be passed for the 28th amendment for the Bill of Rights. What law do you think our country should go by?
K9STH
02-20-2008, 02:20 AM
DXC:
Your teacher should have taught you that the Bill of Rights is the first 10 Ammendments to the Constitution. Those were adopted by Congress in 1789 (actually 12 were proposed but only 10 received the necessary approval of the states) with the 10th being adopted in 1791.
The other 17 Ammendments modify the Constitution but are NOT part of the Bill of Rights.
Glen, K9STH
KG4JYD
02-20-2008, 03:56 AM
Now for the question......... What would you like to be passed for the 28th amendment for the Bill of Rights. What law do you think our country should go by?The abolition of the 16th Amendment and the revoting on the 14th Amendment.
But unfortunately it doesn't matter what's written down, pretty much no one follows the Constitution anymore.
K0DXC
02-20-2008, 10:35 PM
DXC:
Your teacher should have taught you that the Bill of Rights is the first 10 Ammendments to the Constitution. Those were adopted by Congress in 1789 (actually 12 were proposed but only 10 received the necessary approval of the states) with the 10th being adopted in 1791.
The other 17 Ammendments modify the Constitution but are NOT part of the Bill of Rights.
Glen, K9STH
:confused: This is called the Constitution
K0DXC
02-20-2008, 10:35 PM
The abolition of the 16th Amendment and the revoting on the 14th Amendment.
But unfortunately it doesn't matter what's written down, pretty much no one follows the Constitution anymore.
Wasn't the 16th amendment abolishing slavery :confused:
kc2orw
02-20-2008, 10:42 PM
Wasn't the 16th amendment abolishing slavery :confused:
That is the 13th the 16th is about federal income taxes
PS: Here is a quick reference for you Calvin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constituti on
K0DXC
02-20-2008, 10:57 PM
I see, thank you
kc2orw
02-20-2008, 11:25 PM
Here is a topic you should read up on and it relates to constitutional issues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
Be sure to check out the external links section on the bottom, interesting...
K0DXC
02-20-2008, 11:30 PM
I learned about Alexander Hamilton in school!!! :D
kc2orw
02-20-2008, 11:40 PM
I learned about Alexander Hamilton in school!!! :D
Yeah crusty old dead guy, bit of a nut! :D
Here read this one instead
http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/personhood/
K9STH
02-21-2008, 12:17 AM
:confused: This is called the Constitution
You have to be kidding!
If not, then your teacher needs to go back to school!
The Constitution of the United States of America, the document that begins with "We the people of the United States of America . . .", is the basis for all of the laws of this country. There have been 27 amendments adopted which modify the original document. Of these, the first 10 are known as the Bill of Rights.
Now there was an amendment that is "screwy" in the numbering system but I cannot remember exactly what happened which caused this. Maybe it was approved by Congress but was rescinded. However, various states ratified it. But, I definitely am not sure of the exact procedings and cannot find a reference to this using Google (at least in just a few minutes of searching).
Anyway, I hope that you are not serious about the Constitution being called "The Bill of Rights"!
Glen, K9STH
K0DXC
02-21-2008, 12:24 AM
Come on Glen, be nice. :( someones not very happy today as I can see. You don't need to find all the mistakes, simply post your opinion on the subject. What bill would you like to have passed, make one up.
We aren't all perfect, in fact, only one person has ever been. I don't think that was you.
K0DXC
02-21-2008, 12:30 AM
I meant the thread is called the constitution by the way. You probably had it confused.
AE6IP
02-21-2008, 03:47 AM
You have to be kidding!
If not, then your teacher needs to go back to school!
The Constitution of the United States of America, the document that begins with "We the people of the United States of America . . .", is the basis for all of the laws of this country.
Looks like you could use a refresher course yourself, Glen.
The Constitution is not the 'basis for all of the laws of this country.' English common law is the basis for the laws of the individual states, except for Louisiana, which based its laws originally on French civil law.
Federal law is based on English common law, as well. The constitution documents the limits of federal powers and outlines some but not all of the rights of individuals. It also documents a number of important procedures.
KG4JYD
02-21-2008, 04:08 AM
The Constitution is not the 'basis for all of the laws of this country.' English common law is the basis for the laws of the individual states, except for Louisiana, which based its laws originally on French civil law.
Federal law is based on English common law, as well. The constitution documents the limits of federal powers and outlines some but not all of the rights of individuals. It also documents a number of important procedures.
Wow - I am impressed. A very good post by you. I never would've thought it possible :D
But to add what you are saying, the Constitution isn't the basis for all laws in the country, it is however the supreme law of the land.
KC9IUX
02-22-2008, 06:15 AM
Federal law is based on English common law, as well. The constitution documents the limits of federal powers and outlines some but not all of the rights of individuals. It also documents a number of important procedures.
Yes, I wish more understood that, especially those in DC and voters.
As far as the basis of laws regarding the Constitution, they must adhere to that document.
Also see The Magna Carta.
KC9IUX
02-22-2008, 06:16 AM
And as far as Wikipedia goes, see Stephen Colbert on that.
Whatta great source. LOL
KG4JYD
02-23-2008, 01:32 AM
http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/personhood/
Reclaim democracy?
Why try and "reclaim" something that we never had? :rolleyes:
We are a Constitutional Republic, NOT a democracy. We have democratic elements, but we are not a democracy.
Looks like you could use a refresher course yourself, Glen.
The Constitution is not the 'basis for all of the laws of this country.' English common law is the basis for the laws of the individual states, except for Louisiana, which based its laws originally on French civil law.
Federal law is based on English common law, as well. The constitution documents the limits of federal powers and outlines some but not all of the rights of individuals. It also documents a number of important procedures.
However, I would like to add that the U.S. Constitution does place bounds around statutory and common law. For example, the Roe v. Wade decision did not legalize abortion. It rendered statutory laws banning the practice unconstitutional.
AE6QE
02-23-2008, 09:07 AM
Two amendments never to be added:
Amendment 28:
No individual may serve longer than 20 years combined within Congress, the Presidency, or the Vice-Presidency.
Amendment 29:
An immediate family member of former Presidents may not be elected President his/her self, for at least 50 years after the related President's term of office ends.
73,
Rickey/AE6QE