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W3MIV
02-18-2008, 01:40 PM
Even Chuck the Schmuck gets it: For Billary to fight this thing all the way to the convention will be a train wreck.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/02/18/2008-02-18_schumer_convention_battle_between_hillar.html

I have been preaching this line for quite some time (and denounced for doing so by at least one of the Kool-Aid Kids of the Modern Democracy), but this is as clear as anything one can predict. If Billary drops farther back by losing either Texas (likely) or Ohio (not as likely), she needs to follow Edwards and that long parade of also-rans into asteriskville.


"Each candidate will have to buy into that strategy to determine who wins, because if the loser and their supporters stalk away, then we will lose the general election," said Schumer.

One of Obama's top backers, former Virginia Gov. Doug Wilder, seconded Schumer, saying that if party insiders pick the nominee, the convention will face more "chaos" than in 1968, when pro- and anti-Vietnam War forces clashed violently.

"If you think 1968 was bad, you watch; in 2008, it will be worse," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

I don't think either Hillary or Billary has the moral strength to reach down deep inside and tap a core of civic duty and humility and graciously defer to Obama, who is showing himself to be far more popular and is likely far more electable against McCain.

While there is yet time, the energy for Obama continues to build while that small coterie of Kool-Aid support for Billary is in decline.

ad5mb
02-18-2008, 03:56 PM
Shrillary committed the classic error in presidential campaigns: She ran too soon. Think back to previous campaigns - how often does the first one out the gate get to the finish line?

K5RCD
02-18-2008, 04:48 PM
I think Albert nailed it.

I'm going to do my part by crossing over party lines and voting for Obama in the Texas primary. I would hate to see the train wreck Albert so accurately describes - it would be very bad for our country and our political system in the long run.

I say let Obama and McCain duke it out on the ISSUES. Let each of them describe their stance and vision and let the voters decide.

I would much prefer any Republican (even McCain) over Obama at this point, but would like to hear Obama's actual, practical views on HOW to effect (and pay for) "change" and just what "change" entails.

Although I believe Obama is a good man and quite likable, I think his populist rhetoric will fall on deaf ears with the electorate once his views are clearly understood.

I think both McCain and Obama are basically intellectually honest (not pretending to be something they are not) and although McCain's definition of "conservative" differs from mine, he is a far cry from being "liberal".

I have not heard anything from Obama so far except speeches and hot air. I will be listening.

I do believe that if Obama IS elected he will at least TRY to end the partisan bickering in Washington. I fear he will have a rude awakening though due to the rancor that has contaminated Congress since the end of the Reagan Administration.

I am however, trying to keep an open mind. :cool:

Hillary's problem is not that she entered the race too soon, It is that she has made it clear what she represents, and no amount of word smithing on her behalf is going to change the perception of the public. She is seen as a cackling old hen who reminds even die hard Democrats of the past, and the scandals and disgrace attached to her and Billy Boy's 8 years of shame. She has nothing to offer but more of the same.

It's too bad we don't have better candidates to choose from on BOTH sides of the aisle. :(

W3MIV
02-18-2008, 04:57 PM
It's too bad we don't have better candidates to choose from on BOTH sides of the aisle. :(

Given the invective we subject them to, is it really any wonder?

K5RCD
02-18-2008, 05:28 PM
Given the invective we subject them to, is it really any wonder?

No. It is no wonder.

I would rather be dragged to the gallows than run for public office. (Of course in MY case I might be dragged to the gallows if I DID run for public office).

k9kxq
02-18-2008, 05:32 PM
This country definitely needs change and I am hopeful...

kxq

KD6NIG
02-18-2008, 05:36 PM
It scares me that the most coveted position in the land is up for grabs and this was the best they could give us.

I guess thats the way it is though-they only promote from within.

Not like anyone they put up there will really do anything radical-congress will see to that, but still, this time, as it has been in the past few elections, there just isn't anyone that dynamic to me.

Change, Change, Change. That word gets tossed around a lot. I just have a bad feeling that in the end it will mean less change-in my pocket.

W3MIV
02-18-2008, 06:07 PM
Change, Change, Change. That word gets tossed around a lot. I just have a bad feeling that in the end it will mean less change-in my pocket.

Ah, yes. Patriotism is the measure of mere money, not of civic responsibility, not of ideals or of interest in the commonweal. It is a measure of your felicity to the American concept that you think in terms of change, of pennies to pinch instead of vistas to imagine.

It is no wonder that you would fail to feel the magic.

kc2orw
02-18-2008, 09:54 PM
Even Chuck the Schmuck gets it:

Mark Levin?