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Six land sickos at it again. Time to end all federal funding going to this hate the military city.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_8120433?source=rss
n4sva
01-31-2008, 11:01 PM
Six land sickos at it again. Time to end all federal funding going to this hate the military city.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_8120433?source=rss
Just indicative of the general attitude of the Bay Area. Maybe the time the base realignment occurs, they will close all bases in the area. Then they will see how much they will appreciate their military.
Six land sickos at it again. Time to end all federal funding going to this hate the military city.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_8120433?source=rss
If you want to really send a message, announce the DOD will be closing down 1/2 of the military bases in the State of California because of examples like this.
When they see the big "leafy green machine" leave, taking with it the jobs and all the spending that goes with it, they will be dancing a different jig.
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SVA -- didn't see your post, beat me to the punch. HAW
n2ize
02-01-2008, 01:09 AM
God Bless Code Pink... Medea Benjamin for president ! God bless San Francisco and the Bay area. Heck, if it bothers and upsets the neocons this much it must be a beautiful place. If ever I seek another home Frisco is where I am bound. Bye Bye neocon flyover country.
Uncle -- I understand the concept of a "Proud Liberal Hippy Tree Hugger", but will someone please define what the heck a NeoCon is?
Just indicative of the general attitude of the Bay Area. Maybe the time the base realignment occurs, they will close all bases in the area. Then they will see how much they will appreciate their military.
Thats a good plan close the bases and move fleet week .
God Bless Code Pink... Medea Benjamin for president ! God bless San Francisco and the Bay area. Heck, if it bothers and upsets the neocons this much it must be a beautiful place. If ever I seek another home Frisco is where I am bound. Bye Bye neocon flyover country.
Yep pack your bags and join them before the big one hits.
They should also suspend all federal funds to these areas that oppose the military.
n4sva
02-01-2008, 02:03 AM
God Bless Code Pink... Medea Benjamin for president ! God bless San Francisco and the Bay area. Heck, if it bothers and upsets the neocons this much it must be a beautiful place. If ever I seek another home Frisco is where I am bound. Bye Bye neocon flyover country.
Neocon, Neocon, Neocon, Neocon, Neocon.
That's it. When in doubt, Neocon out.
K0RGR
02-01-2008, 02:17 AM
Last time I looked, they'd already closed most of the bases worth discussing in the Bay Area. Moffett Field, NAS Alameda, Almaden AFB, Mather and McClellan AFB's near Sacramento, Ft. Ord near Monterey, Mare Island, Hamiliton AFB, the Presidio, and many more. Now, why again, would anybody care if they pulled what's left?
As for Berserkley - that's why they call it Berserkley. It's the only Marxist/Anarchist city government in America. And, I'm sure the Marines don't care as much about what the city government thinks as they do about what the students at Cal Berkley do. I'm sure there's a lot of hostility there. There are people organizing war protests who have been doing it since the 60's without a break, and they certainly won't spare the recruiters.
Is this the same bunch of Marine recruiters that demanded to film in downtown San Francisco during fleet week and were refused a permit? It seems to me that their real purpose is to provoke and arouse the mentally challenged into thinking that the Marines are being picked on. Another staged non-event to gain political hay for somebody.
This next time a natural disaster hits let them call code pinko for help.
n2ize
02-01-2008, 03:35 AM
Uncle -- I understand the concept of a "Proud Liberal Hippy Tree Hugger", but will someone please define what the heck a NeoCon is?
Look in the nearest mirror.
n2ize
02-01-2008, 03:38 AM
This next time a natural disaster hits let them call code pinko for help.
Yes. You should call Code Pink for help. Or else, call a hippie for help. You'll probably get a lot more genuine people giving down to earth help and assistance in a way that is genuinely compassionate and caring. That is more than you're gonna get from Bush,or your neocon hate radio extremist fascists or from the agencies your God ronnie stripped to the bone.
Last time I looked, they'd already closed most of the bases worth discussing in the Bay Area. Moffett Field, NAS Alameda, Almaden AFB, Mather and McClellan AFB's near Sacramento, Ft. Ord near Monterey, Mare Island, Hamiliton AFB, the Presidio, and many more. Now, why again, would anybody care if they pulled what's left?
As for Berserkley - that's why they call it Berserkley. It's the only Marxist/Anarchist city government in America. And, I'm sure the Marines don't care as much about what the city government thinks as they do about what the students at Cal Berkley do. I'm sure there's a lot of hostility there. There are people organizing war protests who have been doing it since the 60's without a break, and they certainly won't spare the recruiters.
Is this the same bunch of Marine recruiters that demanded to film in downtown San Francisco during fleet week and were refused a permit? It seems to me that their real purpose is to provoke and arouse the mentally challenged into thinking that the Marines are being picked on. Another staged non-event to gain political hay for somebody.
You beat me to it.
I was going to point out to our mentally challenged southern right wing friends that all of the big bases have been closed for some time. But I guess it's more fun for these guys to wave the flag around and label everyone in the Bay Area as freaks. I don't think so.
I agree that the Marines are really attempting to provoke the "professional agitator" crowd in Berkeley. Anyone with any REAL knowledge of the area (that precludes SVA and the phenix city station) would know the majority of the student body could really care less about the rumblings of the Berkeley city government. One can always rile up Tom Bates or people like him when mentioning the military. Then, there will always be some right wing blog willing to pick up some of the quotations as red meat for our less enlightened friends itching to trash California and Berkeley, complete with the usual McCarthyite "pinko" nonsense. Do you right wing types realize who stupid you look rolling out terms like "pinko"?
My brother was Army ROTC at UC Berkeley in the early '70's, and never had any problem wearing his uniform on campus or in town. I went to school there too in the late '70's. A lot of my classmates were way more conservative than I'd ever think of being! Yet the right wing noise machine still cranks out the noise started in 1964 in reaction to the free speech movement. And there are people stupid enough to still buy into the "hippie" nonsense.
Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA
K6WAC
02-01-2008, 04:56 AM
They should also suspend all federal funds to these areas that oppose the military.
You're not alone in these sediments. These anti military-USA hating communities seems to get all the attention in the media. As you so rightly mention, the communities that ban the military should suffer the the wrath of financial isolation from the federal government. All international commerce conducted from cities such as San Francisco and Berkley, rely on the federal government for logistics, trade and treaty support; as well as armed protection for the right of passage of trade vessles. All national support should be pulled from these ungrateful cities and targeted legislation should be inacted to allow the military to openly recruit, to establish bases, and to protect the domestic interest as directed by congress. Any city or municipality that violates these smandated standards would be deemed federal free zones that would no longer eligible for federal assistance of any kind. This would clear the air!
KI4PEQ
02-01-2008, 05:41 AM
God Bless Code Pink... Medea Benjamin for president ! God bless San Francisco and the Bay area. Heck, if it bothers and upsets the neocons this much it must be a beautiful place. If ever I seek another home Frisco is where I am bound. Bye Bye neocon flyover country.
Typical crap from the loony left. Typical for the ultra liberal crew to slam and badmouth the very people who put their lives on the line to protect the freedom of all.
Of course, they think that if the U.S. disbanded the military, melted down all the weapons, and sang "Kumbaya" that there would be more money for their all important social engineering.
They would have to budget for extensive language training for the U.S. population, because it we disbanded the military, we would have a new language.
Would it be Arabic, Persian, or Chinese?
If I were a doctor, assigned to give six land an enema, I would stick the nozzle in the front door of Berkeley City Hall.
Dave should be along any time now to throw his two cents in, call me a warmonger and a social retard. One, two, three...
KI4PEQ
02-01-2008, 05:45 AM
You're not alone in these sediments. I think you meant sentiments, OM. But it could be sediments if you count all of the concentrated fecal matter that spews from the mouths of the so called leadership of the Bay Area constituency. It gets so deep you need hip waders and a shovel to keep your head above the "brown 25"
KI4PEQ
02-01-2008, 05:48 AM
Yes. You should call Code Pink for help. Or else, call a hippie for help. You'll probably get a lot more genuine people giving down to earth help and assistance in a way that is genuinely compassionate and caring. That is more than you're gonna get from Bush,or your neocon hate radio extremist fascists or from the agencies your God ronnie stripped to the bone.
Break out the shovels, boys. Another load of bovine fertilizer...:D
n2ize
02-01-2008, 12:30 PM
You beat me to it.
I was going to point out to our mentally challenged southern right wing friends that all of the big bases have been closed for some time. But I guess it's more fun for these guys to wave the flag around and label everyone in the Bay Area as freaks. I don't think so.
I agree that the Marines are really attempting to provoke the "professional agitator" crowd in Berkeley. Anyone with any REAL knowledge of the area (that precludes SVA and the phenix city station) would know the majority of the student body could really care less about the rumblings of the Berkeley city government. One can always rile up Tom Bates or people like him when mentioning the military. Then, there will always be some right wing blog willing to pick up some of the quotations as red meat for our less enlightened friends itching to trash California and Berkeley, complete with the usual McCarthyite "pinko" nonsense. Do you right wing types realize who stupid you look rolling out terms like "pinko"?
My brother was Army ROTC at UC Berkeley in the early '70's, and never had any problem wearing his uniform on campus or in town. I went to school there too in the late '70's. A lot of my classmates were way more conservative than I'd ever think of being! Yet the right wing noise machine still cranks out the noise started in 1964 in reaction to the free speech movement. And there are people stupid enough to still buy into the "hippie" nonsense.
Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA
Yeah, but the people you're addressing don't want to hear facts. They want to belive that every student and professor that goes to UC Berkeley or every person who lives in san Francisco walks around carrying a red flag with a hammer and sickle and calls each other comrade.
n2ize
02-01-2008, 12:33 PM
Break out the shovels, boys. Another load of bovine fertilizer...:D
Well I don't know about you but I think people who are calling for an end to a corrupt war and are calling for world peace and an end to killing and sufferage are more desirable than people who constantly espouse messages of war, hate, violence, I think people who help people out of a genuine sense of compassion and concern for others are a lot nicer than people who turn their backs on others.
n2ize
02-01-2008, 01:00 PM
Typical crap from the loony left. Typical for the ultra liberal crew to slam and badmouth the very people who put their lives on the line to protect the freedom of all.
I think the people who slam the military are those who send them into corrupt wars in places like Iraq and those who continue to support such wars even after it has been exposed that they were initiated on lies and factual distortions.
In typical fashion you mis-correlate anyone who calls for peace and an end to war, who calls for a change in military policy as "hating and badmouthing" the people in uniform. In reality one has nothing to do with the other. Even the closure of military bases in a particular city or town does not equate to "slamming and badmouthing" personell.
Of course, they think that if the U.S. disbanded the military, melted down all the weapons, and sang "Kumbaya" that there would be more money for their all important social engineering.
Well,less weapons and less wars and less violence and more singing of Kumbaya might not be such a bad idea. Perhaps we should give it a try for the first time in history. We might learn something if we took more time trying to educate ourselves and understand each other and less time trying to plan how we are going to kill each other. Perhaps if more countries focused on the methodologies of simply getting along rather than the methodologies of how to blow each other off the map.Maybe we would learn something about ourselves, the world around us and, those select few who
make wars and profit from them.
Well, we might find our nation somewhat less in debt. We might also not need to sell off as much of our national infrastructure to foreign interests as we do now. And we might actually find that a world with less corrupt wars and a lttlke more peace and understanding might serve our nation and the world a bit better. As well as make a better place for our children and grandshildren to live.
They would have to budget for extensive language training for the U.S. population, because it we disbanded the military, we would have a new language.
I doubt it would happen like that but it might be enlightening for the average American to learn to speak more than one langauge. I mnean, perish the thought of actually learning different langauges and methods of communicatiing ideas...
Would it be Arabic, Persian, or Chinese?
Probably Chinese at the rate they are presently buying out our country and which we in debt to them.
Yes. You should call Code Pink for help. Or else, call a hippie for help. You'll probably get a lot more genuine people giving down to earth help and assistance in a way that is genuinely compassionate and caring. That is more than you're gonna get from Bush,or your neocon hate radio extremist fascists or from the agencies your God ronnie stripped to the bone.
That works, no federal aid of assistance. Maybe you could send them a can of soup.
n2ize
02-01-2008, 02:02 PM
That works, no federal aid of assistance. Maybe you could send them a can of soup.
Yeah right...make that suggestion to Washington. I'm sure they'll be impressed.
kg6amw
02-01-2008, 03:02 PM
Those poor Marines. I heard the biggest compliant was the Code Pink Cows block doorways doing yoga, smoke a lot and talk loud. I suppose the occasional farting due to the high fiber vegetarian Code Pink diet is also adding to the woes.
W1GUH
02-01-2008, 03:08 PM
God Bless Code Pink... Medea Benjamin for president ! God bless San Francisco and the Bay area. Heck, if it bothers and upsets the neocons this much it must be a beautiful place. If ever I seek another home Frisco is where I am bound. Bye Bye neocon flyover country.
Be sure to wear a flower in your hair! :)
W1GUH
02-01-2008, 03:09 PM
Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure.
-Ronald Reagan
He may have read it off a teleprompter, but he sure as heck didin't come up with it.
n4sva
02-01-2008, 03:14 PM
He may have read it off a teleprompter, but he sure as heck didin't come up with it.
How would you know? Were you there, Richard Cranium?
Cut Berkeley's federal funding, now!!
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/01/berkeley-council-member-us-marines-are-unwelcome-intruders/?print=1
n2ize
02-01-2008, 04:46 PM
How would you know? Were you there, Richard Cranium?
Talk to his PR mangers and his speech writer. Face it, ronnie was a class act performed for the American people.
n2ize
02-01-2008, 04:48 PM
Cut Berkeley's federal funding, now!!
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/01/berkeley-council-member-us-marines-are-unwelcome-intruders/?print=1
Yeah right and loose the tax revenue ? Berkely ain't some small town in the middle of noplace.
W1GUH
02-01-2008, 05:11 PM
How would you know? Were you there, Richard Cranium?
It was perfectly clear that the imbecile didn't have enough brains cells to say anything that wasn't in a script.
W1GUH
02-01-2008, 05:22 PM
How would you know? Were you there, Richard Cranium?
Richard Cranium...you know him too?
Very clever, and such an effective vehicle of debate, but actually shows more evidence of gray matter than imbecile ronnie ever did.
CA-CA Poo Poo on you, too. :p
Yes. You should call Code Pink for help. Or else, call a hippie for help. You'll probably get a lot more genuine people giving down to earth help and assistance in a way that is genuinely compassionate and caring. That is more than you're gonna get from Bush,or your neocon hate radio extremist fascists or from the agencies your God ronnie stripped to the bone.
Are the hippies organizing? How are they funded? How effective are their supposed services when they do not train together in a cohesive group governed by a hierarchical structure? I see lots of bluster -- chock full of good intentions, empathy, and feelings -- effeminacy run amok.
Keep grasping for illusion, Johnny. Meanwhile our military, made up of real men and women, will take action in times of need.
73.
n2ize
02-01-2008, 09:42 PM
Are the hippies organizing? How are they funded? How effective are their supposed services when they do not train together in a cohesive group governed by a hierarchical structure?
They don't need to train in a structured hierarchy because they bestow natural virtues. A rigid hierarchy is not required when you are bestowing the beauty and virtues of peace, nonviolence, happiness, freedom , tolerance , understanding and compassion. The hierarchy lies within ourselves when we become conciously aware of quality virtues and what is truly right and wrong.
I see lots of bluster -- chock full of good intentions, empathy, and feelings -- effeminacy run amok.
Oh I see. So good virtues of peace, kindness, nonviolence, etc. are effeminate. Well, if they are then so be it. They strike me as a voice of sanity in a world overrun with hate, violence, repression and an abundance of war. Male ego and too much testosterone run amok perhaps ?
Keep grasping for illusion, Johnny. Meanwhile our military, made up of real men and women, will take action in times of need.
The only illusion lies in what you cannot see nor accept.
They don't need to train in a structured hierarchy because they bestow natural virtues. A rigid hierarchy is not required when you are bestowing the beauty and virtues of peace, nonviolence, happiness, freedom , tolerance , understanding and compassion. The hierarchy lies within ourselves when we become conciously aware of quality virtues and what is truly right and wrong.
Oh I see. So good virtues of peace, kindness, nonviolence, etc. are effeminate. Well, if they are then so be it. They strike me as a voice of sanity in a world overrun with hate, violence, repression and an abundance of war. Malke ego and too much testosterone run amok perhaps ?
The only illusion lies in what you cannot see nor accept.
NIZ, you're words have touched my heart. Heck, want to go out and rent a copy of Easy Rider....................
W1GUH
02-01-2008, 11:40 PM
They don't need to train in a structured hierarchy because they bestow natural virtues. A rigid hierarchy is not required when you are bestowing the beauty and virtues of peace, nonviolence, happiness, freedom , tolerance , understanding and compassion. The hierarchy lies within ourselves when we become conciously aware of quality virtues and what is truly right and wrong.
Oh I see. So good virtues of peace, kindness, nonviolence, etc. are effeminate. Well, if they are then so be it. They strike me as a voice of sanity in a world overrun with hate, violence, repression and an abundance of war. Malke ego and too much testosterone run amok perhaps ?
The only illusion lies in what you cannot see nor accept.
I quoted your words because they deserve to be repeated. What's worth saying once is worth saying again.
And to our brother who said...
Meanwhile our military, made up of real men and women, will take action in times of need.
There are many hippies in the military, or were former good military people. The more talented ones can hold both concepts..
1) The rigid discipline needed in the military
and
2) The way to live harmoniously with Mother Earth and with each other that is so very, very important. Always has been, always will be.
It's not an "either-or" with them. They have the gray matter to accept each where appropriate.
C'mon out to a gathering. I will personally escort you and make sure you feel comfortable and at home. Check it out...and if you still don't like it, you will be more respected for your views. This, by the way, is a completely sincere and real offer. One which I would really like you to accept.
Peace and Love, brothers...
Paul
Yeah right...make that suggestion to Washington. I'm sure they'll be impressed.
I thought you were " Mr Compassion". LOL
They don't need to train in a structured hierarchy because they bestow natural virtues. A rigid hierarchy is not required when you are bestowing the beauty and virtues of peace, nonviolence, happiness, freedom , tolerance , understanding and compassion. The hierarchy lies within ourselves when we become conciously aware of quality virtues and what is truly right and wrong.
Oh I see. So good virtues of peace, kindness, nonviolence, etc. are effeminate. Well, if they are then so be it. They strike me as a voice of sanity in a world overrun with hate, violence, repression and an abundance of war. Male ego and too much testosterone run amok perhaps ?
The only illusion lies in what you cannot see nor accept.
Actually, I'd say the same about you. I'm college educated, as well as educated early in life by the hard knocks of military training.
You, sir, have NOT seen both sides of the fence. You have never been a member of the military. You have never lived overseas for any length of time. You have never worked for the Feds for any length of time either, right?
Your life experience is limited and biased.
Try again...
n2ize
02-02-2008, 10:41 AM
Actually, I'd say the same about you. I'm college educated, as well as educated early in life by the hard knocks of military training.
You, sir, have NOT seen both sides of the fence. You have never been a member of the military. You have never lived overseas for any length of time. You have never worked for the Feds for any length of time either, right?
Your life experience is limited and biased.
Try again...
And have you ever been a hippie ? I didn't think so. So there,your life experiences are limited as well.
My brother, actually everyones life experiences are limited and biased. Part of being a man or woman of wisdom is understanding how little one really knows... about things...including themselves.. The greater I delve into a subject or realm the more aware I become of how much remains unknown. Only the fool would think he is unlimited in scope and unbiased. So yes, indeed I am quite limited and biased, and so are you and so is everyone.
Beyond that I choose not to tout my credentials and my lifes whereabouts. Let's just say my lifes experiences would probably surprise you. But I leave that discussion for another time.
And have you ever been a hippie ? I didn't think so. So there,your life experiences are limited as well.
My brother, actually everyones life experiences are limited and biased. Part of being a man or woman of wisdom is understanding how little one really knows... about things...including themselves.. The greater I delve into a subject or realm the more aware I become of how much remains unknown. Only the fool would think he is unlimited in scope and unbiased. So yes, indeed I am quite limited and biased, and so are you and so is everyone.
Beyond that I choose not to tout my credentials and my lifes whereabouts. Let's just say my lifes experiences would probably surprise you. But I leave that discussion for another time.
As you already know, my life is an open-book. I am not afraid to talk about my past in any shape or form -- for there's just not much dirt to hide or skeletons in the closet. Just service to my Nation and a quiet life raising my family.
OTOH, you are overtly private, and will not expound or backup your liberal-socialist positions based on experiences and logic. I assume they're much too private... knowing "hippies" from history, they're probably illegal -- being the anti-establishment person you are.
Now there's a statement for ya...
Open up, Johnny Boy, and a big "Toodles" to ya.
ad4mg
02-02-2008, 11:51 AM
As you already know, my life is an open-book. I am not afraid to talk about my past in any shape or form -- for there's just not much dirt to hide or skeletons in the closet. Just service to my Nation and a quiet life raising my family.
OTOH, you are overtly private, and will not expound or backup your liberal-socialist positions based on experiences and logic. I assume they're much too private... knowing "hippies" from history, they're probably illegal -- being the anti-establishment person you are.
Now there's a statement for ya...
Open up, Johnny Boy, and a big "Toodles" to ya.
Not too long ago you were going to incapacitate n2nh by shooting him in the knees, and then observing if he could outrun your neocon bear.
Now, you brand n2ize a criminal.
You're not a very nice person, are you, Frozen Steve?
Unkind comment removed. My apologies, Steve.
Fixed that for ya ...
Not too long ago you were going to incapacitate n2nh by shooting him in the knees, and then observing if he could outrun your neocon bear.
Now, you brand n2ize a criminal.
You're not a very nice person, are you, Frozen Steve?
Fixed that for ya ...
That's a neocon grizzly "bar"... don't you know. And I particularly like the .22 limp-bait joke. It's a classic!
Have a wonderful Saturday!
n2ize
02-02-2008, 12:24 PM
As you already know, my life is an open-book. I am not afraid to talk about my past in any shape or form -- for there's just not much dirt to hide or skeletons in the closet. Just service to my Nation and a quiet life raising my family.
OTOH, you are overtly private, and will not expound or backup your liberal-socialist positions based on experiences and logic. I assume they're much too private... knowing "hippies" from history, they're probably illegal -- being the anti-establishment person you are.
Now there's a statement for ya...
Open up, Johnny Boy, and a big "Toodles" to ya.
Sometimes the more "open" a person is the more they are hiding. I suspect the "book"you have open contains only the pages you want the rest of us to read.
I'm not ashamed of my life nor do I have anything to hide. I simply prefer to keep my life to myself for my own reasons. I First of all it's not particularly interesting to anyone here. Secondly there is no viable reason to discuss it on QRZ . If you want to believe I don't discuss it here because I am a crook then so be it. In the immortal words of Richard Millhouse Nixon,"I'm No Crook". But you are free to think and believe as you wish. I could care less.
. knowing "hippies" from history, they're probably illegal -- being the anti-establishment person you are.
Who have you known from history ? Most of the "hippies" that I once knew were damned good people. Kind, considerate, polite, helpful, selfless and filled with beautiful values and fine virtues. Most of them raised wonderful families and taught their children good clean and honest values. They were indeed beautiful people in so many ways. Above all theyneither prejudged others nor did they teach their children to prejudge.
Sometimes the more "open" a person is the more they are hiding. I suspect the "book"you have open contains only the pages you want the rest of us to read.
I'm not ashamed of my life nor do I have anything to hide. I simply prefer to keep my life to myself for my own reasons. I First of all it's not particularly interesting. Secondly there is no viable reason to discuss it. If you want to believe I don't discuss it here because I am hiding then so be it.
Who have you known from history ? Most of the "hippies" that I once knew were damned good people. Kind, considerate, polite, helpful, selfless and filled with beautiful values and fine virtues. Most of them raised wonderful families and taught their children good clean and honest values. Perhaps you knew the wrong people.
:confused:
So be it then... Mr. Privacy.
As for me, I haven't joined the "dark side" of the Force yet, youngling. I am still a Jedi.
And, law breakers are just that... law breakers. Your "admirable" hippie-folks were law breakers. I have no use for their kind, be it in the past, present, or future.
73.
n2ize
02-02-2008, 01:20 PM
So be it then... Mr. Privacy.
As for me, I haven't joined the "dark side" of the Force yet, youngling. I am still a Jedi.
And, law breakers are just that... law breakers. Your "admirable" hippie-folks were law breakers. I have no use for their kind, be it in the past, present, or future.
73.
Boy oh boy... What happened to all the kindness, love,and forgiveness you espoused in another post a few nights ago ? You know,the stuff that Jesus preached unto all Christians. I find it surprising that one who claims to be so Christian and living in the image of a loving Christian God can be so bitterly judgemental of those whom he has neither met or known.
So now you declare that people you don't even know or know anything about are "law breakers" ? What was their crime, not hating people ? maybe their crime was teaching their children to be honest and respectful of others ? Or maybe their crime was not being judgmental of others .
It's really sad that you are so condemning of those whom you don't even know anything about.
I have no use for their kind, be it in the past, present, or future.
I could not in good concious direct the same sentiments towards you because I don't negatively judge others whom I don't know. I can say however which crowd I'd rather hang out with.
As you already know, my life is an open-book. I am not afraid to talk about my past in any shape or form -- for there's just not much dirt to hide or skeletons in the closet. Just service to my Nation and a quiet life raising my family.
OTOH, you are overtly private, and will not expound or backup your liberal-socialist positions based on experiences and logic. I assume they're much too private... knowing "hippies" from history, they're probably illegal -- being the anti-establishment person you are.
Now there's a statement for ya...
Open up, Johnny Boy, and a big "Toodles" to ya.
You wouldn't know "logic" if it smacked you in the face, Frozen Steve.
You couldn't think for yourself if your life depended on it.
For someone who likes to pull the humble Midwestern (albeit Frozen) act, you sure spend a lot of time ripping on other people that don't share your so-called "Christian" values, and whacky right wing dittohead politics.
I'll take IZE's view of the world any day over your soma induced, right wing "Ozzie and Harriet" fantasyland...
Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA
It gets better...
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/02/berkeleys_war_against_marines.html
So be it then... Mr. Privacy.
As for me, I haven't joined the "dark side" of the Force yet, youngling. I am still a Jedi.
And, law breakers are just that... law breakers. Your "admirable" hippie-folks were law breakers. I have no use for their kind, be it in the past, present, or future.
73.
You have no use for law breakers? What about Rush? He has been caught doctor shopping (a crime) and with a perscription drug (viagra) in his luggage when he did not have a perscription (another crime).
Steve, I embrace most if the conservative values you do. But we have to be equal in how we view the actions of others. To say you have no use for law breaking hippies, yet you are willing to listen to Limbaugh who has also broken the law is somewhat hypocritical is it not?
You wouldn't know "logic" if it smacked you in the face, Frozen Steve.
You couldn't think for yourself if your life depended on it.
For someone who likes to pull the humble Midwestern (albeit Frozen) act, you sure spend a lot of time ripping on other people that don't share your so-called "Christian" values, and whacky right wing dittohead politics.
I'll take IZE's view of the world any day over your soma induced, right wing "Ozzie and Harriet" fantasyland...
Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA
... and who are Ozzie and Harriet? I think you might be dating yourself, Old Man. Go fish...
You have no use for law breakers? What about Rush? He has been caught doctor shopping (a crime) and with a perscription drug (viagra) in his luggage when he did not have a perscription (another crime).
Steve, I embrace most if the conservative values you do. But we have to be equal in how we view the actions of others. To say you have no use for law breaking hippies, yet you are willing to listen to Limbaugh who has also broken the law is somewhat hypocritical is it not?
What's a "perscription?" :D:D:D
Who's poking around in Rush's luggage? Who's poking around in your luggage? If Rush likes Viagra, perhaps I would? I'll have to talk to my wife... to get a "perscription."
n2ize
02-03-2008, 08:28 AM
What's a "perscription?" :D:D:D
Who's poking around in Rush's luggage? Who's poking around in your luggage? If Rush likes Viagra, perhaps I would? I'll have to talk to my wife... to get a "perscription."
It's all about charachter. Charachter counts. Rush is a lawbreaker. he got in trouble for illegally obtaining a dangerous narcotic poison. And what's worst is so many conservatives supported and condoned his illegal activity. Where is their integrity and respect for law and order and decency ?
Charachter counts...But in this case it's obviously poor charachter.
Now,on the other hand, the hippies and the Code Pink people didn't get in trouble for such illegal drug activity. They have shown that they have respect for the nations drug laws and they are innocent of any such crimes... Obviously people of superb charachter.
It all boils down to charachter... Charachter counts.
... and who are Ozzie and Harriet? I think you might be dating yourself, Old Man. Go fish...
You're probably so clueless that you don't even know what "soma" is either.
You're a mess, Frozen Steve.
You're probably so clueless that you don't even know what "soma" is either.
You're a mess, Frozen Steve.
What's soma? Apparently, it's something I've never had a need or hankering for? Is this some kind of drug you take when you're not sippin' your Cali Wine and munchin' on your local fruits and nuts?
Fill me in, o' high and mighty!
73.
P.S. You continually make me laugh, OM! Such spite is always laughable!
It's all about charachter. Charachter counts. Rush is a lawbreaker. he got in trouble for illegally obtaining a dangerous narcotic poison. And what's worst is so many conservatives supported and condoned his illegal activity. Where is their integrity and respect for law and order and decency ?
Charachter counts...But in this case it's obviously poor charachter.
Now,on the other hand, the hippies and the Code Pink people didn't get in trouble for such illegal drug activity. They have shown that they have respect for the nations drug laws and they are innocent of any such crimes... Obviously people of superb charachter.
It all boils down to charachter... Charachter counts.
Did Rush become addicted to a script pain killer because he WANTED to do so? Or, was it something insidious that changed him, causing an addiction.
Did "hippies" of the past, perhaps of the present, do patently illegal drugs because they WANTED and DESIRED to do so -- to get high and escape from the real world? I bet they did... because they WANTED to do so. There's no doubt about it.
Big diff, youngling...
Go back to your books; get in-touch with your effeminate feelings. Let your "feelings" drag you to the "dark side." They do so often, the darkness seems to be quite soothing for you. Telling the difference between an unfortunate happenstance brought about by unbearable pain versus voluntary, recreational drug use by hippies is beyond those perusing the "dark side."
Like Yoda says, "Control... you must learn control. Control your feelings, young one."
... and 73.
I think the people who slam the military are those who send them into corrupt wars in places like Iraq and those who continue to support such wars even after it has been exposed that they were initiated on lies and factual distortions.
In typical fashion you mis-correlate anyone who calls for peace and an end to war, who calls for a change in military policy as "hating and badmouthing" the people in uniform. In reality one has nothing to do with the other. Even the closure of military bases in a particular city or town does not equate to "slamming and badmouthing" personell.
Well,less weapons and less wars and less violence and more singing of Kumbaya might not be such a bad idea. Perhaps we should give it a try for the first time in history. We might learn something if we took more time trying to educate ourselves and understand each other and less time trying to plan how we are going to kill each other. Perhaps if more countries focused on the methodologies of simply getting along rather than the methodologies of how to blow each other off the map.Maybe we would learn something about ourselves, the world around us and, those select few who
make wars and profit from them.
Well, we might find our nation somewhat less in debt. We might also not need to sell off as much of our national infrastructure to foreign interests as we do now. And we might actually find that a world with less corrupt wars and a lttlke more peace and understanding might serve our nation and the world a bit better. As well as make a better place for our children and grandshildren to live.
I doubt it would happen like that but it might be enlightening for the average American to learn to speak more than one langauge. I mnean, perish the thought of actually learning different langauges and methods of communicatiing ideas...
Probably Chinese at the rate they are presently buying out our country and which we in debt to them.
What n2ize said.
What's soma? Apparently, it's something I've never had a need or hankering for? Is this some kind of drug you take when you're not sippin' your Cali Wine and munchin' on your local fruits and nuts?
Fill me in, o' high and mighty!
73.
P.S. You continually make me laugh, OM! Such spite is always laughable!
Oh Steve! :rolleyes: Didn't you ever have to read any novels in high school?
n2ize
02-03-2008, 01:30 PM
Did Rush become addicted to a script pain killer because he WANTED to do so? Or, was it something insidious that changed him, causing an addiction.
Nope. Sorry.No excuses. He broke the law. There are legal ways to get pain killers. Rush broke the law and obtained them illegally. Needing them is no excuse. If you have pain,be it mental or physical you see a doctor and he decides if it warrants drugs. You belive in law and order ? Then that is the proper way to obtain drugs.. The legal way. End of story.
Addiction is no excuse either. If he used the drugs properly rather than illegally he would not likely have become addicted because the doctor would have known when enough is enough and when to stop prescribing. His illegal use led to addiction. And there are LEGAL ways to treat addiction.He could have signed up for a methadone program where they would have weaned him off the narcotics properly and legally.
See. We live in a good society that provides legal ways to deal with such problems. There is no excuse for breaking the law. Rush could have handled all his problems by following the straight and narrow path...legally. Remember...charachter counts.
Did "hippies" of the past, perhaps of the present, do patently illegal drugs because they WANTED and DESIRED to do so -- to get high and escape from the real world? I bet they did... because they WANTED to do so. There's no doubt about it.
Hippies are passe'. There are few around these days. Of course that depends on who/what you consider to be a "hippie". First you need to define whatyou mean by "hippie". Then you need to explains whatyoumean by drug use ? Do all these supposed "hippies"use recreational drugs ? Is recreational drug use ever done by people who are not "hippies" ? Which "hippies"specifically got into trouble for illegal drugs ? Hmmmm ?
I can tell you that NONE of those whom I considered "hippies" ever got in any trouble for any sort of drug use. As far as societyis concerned that are/were all
honest,law abiding, clean living people of good charachter. And remember...charachter counts.
Go back to your books; get in-touch with your effeminate feelings. Let your "feelings" drag you to the "dark side." They do so often, the darkness seems to be quite soothing for you.
Telling the difference between an unfortunate happenstance brought about by unbearable pain versus voluntary, recreational drug use by hippies is beyond those perusing the "dark side."
What books do you want me to go back to. Name them and maybe I'll read them. In what way do effiminate feelings lead on to the so called "dark side" ? Are you insinuating that females and female personna's are the source of all evil and weakness in society ? It wouldn't surprise me. Most of the modern day woman haters seem to come from the neocon side of the fence these days.
Like Yoda says, "Control... you must learn control. Control your feelings, young one."
... and 73.
I think you need to contol your feelings. Namely fear...man;s greatest weakness.
Or else maybe it's just a long cold winter.
n2ize
02-03-2008, 01:36 PM
What's soma? Apparently, it's something I've never had a need or hankering for? Is this some kind of drug you take when you're not sippin' your Cali Wine and munchin' on your local fruits and nuts?
Fill me in, o' high and mighty!
73.
P.S. You continually make me laugh, OM! Such spite is always laughable!
Apparently you don't know. It has more than one meaning. One encompasses your physical entirety.
Hate America, hate the military LEFT, at their best. \
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/02/berkeley-mayor-to-marines-end-the-occupation-of-our-city-marines-to-berkeley-mayor-get-bent/?print=1
n2ize
02-03-2008, 02:11 PM
[QUOTE=K3XR;1123484]Hate America, hate the military LEFT, at their best. \
QUOTE]
Couldn't agree with you more "hotair.com" is a pretty dumb source of "news".
Talk radio fights the anti-troop, kook, hatered.
http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2008/02/talk-radio-mobilizes-public-against.html
What's a "perscription?" :D:D:D
Who's poking around in Rush's luggage? Who's poking around in your luggage? If Rush likes Viagra, perhaps I would? I'll have to talk to my wife... to get a "perscription."
It was the US Customs service.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/27/national/main1753947.shtml
Limbaugh has broken the law and has gotten away with it simply because he can afford high dollar lawyers.
Rush may not have meant to get addicted, but then again no one means to get addicted to a drug. They start to take them to ease pain, physical or emotional. The addiction comes later.
It is when Rush started to get multiple prescriptions from multiple doctors that he went from a simple addict to a criminal. Had you or I done the same thing we would be rotting in jail right now. Rush never made an apology for his actions. He was sorry that he got caught and little more. Making excuses does not cut it.
I quit listening to Rush and so should have anyone who claims to hold conservative values.
To make excuses for one addict and condemn another is hypocritical. Like it or not. If you are willing to forgive Rush, then you better forgive the hippies as well.
It was the US Customs service.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/27/national/main1753947.shtml
Limbaugh has broken the law and has gotten away with it simply because he can afford high dollar lawyers.
Rush may not have meant to get addicted, but then again no one means to get addicted to a drug. They start to take them to ease pain, physical or emotional. The addiction comes later.
It is when Rush started to get multiple prescriptions from multiple doctors that he went from a simple addict to a criminal. Had you or I done the same thing we would be rotting in jail right now. Rush never made an apology for his actions. He was sorry that he got caught and little more. Making excuses does not cut it.
I quit listening to Rush and so should have anyone who claims to hold conservative values.
To make excuses for one addict and condemn another is hypocritical. Like it or not. If you are willing to forgive Rush, then you better forgive the hippies as well.
Sorry, Charlie. I am discriminating for the right reasons. Rush never intended to allow the circumstances unfold they way they did. The "hippies" and/or criminals who have used and distributed patently illegal drugs have known exactly what they are doing -- from the very beginning. The harm and evil from illegal drug distribution and use far surpasses insidious prescription drug addictions unknowingly attaching themselves to their hapless victims.
As I've said before, there a big diff between these typical situations.
Learn to discriminate, young one.
73.
What n2ize said.
Wishful thinking and outside the bounds of the reality on this blue sphere. Therefore, Ron Paul's "reality" just isn't quite...
Islamic Radical Terrorists will make no distinction between those ready and willing to stand up and fight for their culture and beliefs and those passive "make love not war" types. The latter will only be easier to murder in the name of the radicals' cause.
Toodles.
Oh Steve! :rolleyes: Didn't you ever have to read any novels in high school?
You forget... you have at least ten years on me. And, I'm sure my Iowan education was vastly different than your Sixties and Seventies "ed" received elsewhere. I'm decidedly Eighties. We concentrated on reading, writing, and arithmetic -- our standardized Midwestern education was decidedly conservative. Perhaps that's the reason "soma" and any related text or literature never came up in the classroom. You were raised on the West Coast right? I assume in WA or OR, right? Fill me in, learned one.
BTW, I hear soma is addicting. It might be best to steer clear of it, as well as other powerful pain killers.
Speaking of pain killers, I developed a rather acute case of arthritis in my middle back about 3 years ago. At age 39, I developed 24 by 7 severe pain, brought about by two completely disintegrated disks in my back. After almost three months of constant pain and continual muscle spasms -- a locked-up back -- I found Celebrex, a specific cox-2 inhibitor. This drug kept me from being hospitalized and bedridden -- it kept me a productive DoJ contractor at the time. I still consider it's pain relief, when nothing else would touch my back pain, a Godsend. Please note that muscle relaxers wouldn't touch my excruciating, locked-up back at the time.
Recently, I have learned that Celebrex may cause heart issues like arrhythmia. Coincidentally, my heavy use of this drug for 6 months to a year may have caused some, hopefully temporary, heart rhythm issues of my own. Luckily, I my heart is not in peril at 42 years of age, and I will certainly be ever more discerning and conservative in my use of Celebrex, and other powerful drugs, into the future.
Relating "real" stories are great. Drugs of all kinds have serious effects and latent consequences on the human body. Over and above the concerns of the medical community, patients' prudent and conservative use of prescription drugs is highly recommended. Doctors' second and third opinions are recommended. Treatments that do not include drugs should be tried, if at all possible.
I am concerned that we, Americans, are relying more and more heavily on drugs. Our doctors are doling them out, I believe, without fully taking into consideration their use, to include gaining some kind of understanding of the near and long term consequences for individual patients. Today, our medical community is liberally prescribing (over-prescribing) legal drugs. This is unwise. Caveat emptor...
An excerpt from an ABC News article today:
- A Prescription for Tragedy -
Legitimate Users Affected
While many individuals and families suffer because of the inappropriate use of OxyContin, others who need it for legitimate pain treatment may suffer from the stigma and fear that surrounds the drug.
According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse, most people who take OxyContin as prescribed do not become addicted.
"Overall, this situation has added to the overall tone of opioid fear in this country which makes getting patients under good medical control difficult," says Dr. Michael Joseph, clinical associate director of the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles Comfort and Pain Management Program.
And it's not just the patients who have become fearful.
"Now many doctors are even afraid to prescribe it," Shurman says. "The sad part about this is that for patients, it's led to this massive chilling effect."
He says many patients who might benefit from the drug are either scared to take it, fearing addiction, or are worried about the stigma of taking a drug so widely known for its abuse. But avoiding the drug comes with risks of its own.
"The risk of suicide in these patients is very high; a lot of these pain patients have depression."
Fruit of an Impatient Culture
And some say the true problem is not the drug itself, but a general culture of overmedication and liberal prescribing habits.
"We have become an impatient culture," says Phil Bryant, associate chair for community rehabilitation programs at the University of Pennsylvania Health System.
"We want instant meals, instant responses, and instant pain relief. Instead of resolving the underlying medical or emotional issue, we often mask it with pain medications. When this becomes habitual, the individual often develops both a physiologic addiction and emotional dependence," Bryant said.
It's a dependence that headache sufferer Spector feels he narrowly avoided by seeking medical help. And he says patients and doctors alike must be more wary about OxyContin.
"I think doctors have been persuaded that it's a lot less problematic than it is," Spector says. "I don't think it's the type of drug you want out in the public."
References:
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/163/4/594
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/PainManagement/Story?id=3172365&page=3
help.senate.gov/Hearings/2002_02_12_a/Giglio.pdf
http://ww.signonsandiego.com/news/health/20040928-9999-n20553.html
n2ize
02-04-2008, 12:58 AM
Sorry, Charlie. I am discriminating for the right reasons.
Ha ha Ha ha.... Translation... "It's okay to break the law if I agree with your politics".
n2ize
02-04-2008, 01:02 AM
Wishful thinking and outside the bounds of the reality on this blue sphere. Therefore, Ron Paul's "reality" just isn't quite...
Islamic Radical Terrorists will make no distinction between those ready and willing to stand up and fight for their culture and beliefs and those passive "make love not war" types. The latter will only be easier to murder in the name of the radicals' cause.
Toodles.
Yeah right... thats why they attacked the WTC and Pentagon on 911 instead of a hippie commune.
Yeah right... thats why they attacked the WTC and Pentagon on 911 instead of a hippie commune.
I love it. Even hippies have to wake up and work once in awhile! ;)
Ha ha Ha ha.... Translation... "It's okay to break the law if I agree with your politics".
If politics has to do with discriminating between willful and patently illegal drug use / distribution and the insidious addicting effects of legal pain-killers... then, hell yes.
Go fish...
ad4mg
02-04-2008, 03:32 AM
Ha ha Ha ha.... Translation... "It's okay to break the law if I agree with your politics".
It's just another in a very long line of "Neocon Mulligans".
The song remains the same.
ad4mg
02-04-2008, 03:34 AM
What he really meant: If politics has to do with discriminating between liberals / Democrats and neoconservative Bible-thumping war mongering Republicans... then, hell yes.
Go fish...
Fixed that for ya / you gotta stand up and say what you really mean sometimes.
Fixed that for ya / you gotta stand up and say what you really mean sometimes.
I subscribe to this position and the conjoined position in our Constitution's preamble:
The Constitution of the United States of America Preamble
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
The Christian Position on War
Question:
I am a Sunday School teacher and I gave my class the following question to answer: Is the US justified in declaring war on Osama bin Laden, and what is the Christian response to a call for war? Are we to be pacifists? I would be interested in you take on this issue.
Todd
Answer:
Hi Todd,
Thank you for writing and for giving of your time and talent to help educate others in a strong Christian worldview. As we come into these uncertain times, a solid foundation will go a long way in understanding how we as Christians should react to the various issues we're facing.
Our first reaction to war is usually one of repugnancy. It entails massive death and destruction from all parties and we can see how this type of "problem solving" is outside of God's perfect will for humanity. However, God's perfect will for humanity was for man to never sin. Since man has a sin nature, it may not be possible to live in a world where wars don't exist. Let's try and unravel what position the Bible takes in respect to Christianity and war.
Before going too far, we need to establish first that the Bible makes a distinction between individual moral responsibility and governmental responsibility. As free moral agents, Paul tells us "See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people." (1 Thess 5:15) Individual Christians should show Christ's love to those who personally wrong them. But this does not mean that if someone physically threatens us we should not fight back. Nor does it imply that we shouldn't use physical force to aid another person being threatened. In such situations it would be a greater sin to stand by and do nothing that to help a person who is in danger.
The same type of responsibility God requires of governments. They are specifically put in a position of power to protect their citizens. Paul shows us this in Romans 13: 3-5 where he writes,
"For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience' sake."
Note how the Scriptures say that the ruling body "does not bear the sword for nothing." In other words, governments are to function in a guardian role, both dealing with crime inside its own borders (such as the police) and also any enemy who would attack its citizens from outside.
This brings up another concept that in recent years people have forgotten; that there exists such a thing as a just war. The Romans passage above is very clear on this point. A government can function as an avenger of God to bring His judgment upon them. The Old Testament is replete with examples of this, but I'd like to look at a more modern situation.
In World War II Hitler was bent on conquest of Europe. He also sought to exterminate the Jewish race from the face of the planet. Those allied against Hitler and his plan were just in fighting him and his armies. To ignore him is morally the same as a police officer who does not try to stop a mugging attempt. There were good reasons, moral reasons to go to war in that instance and it would have been more immoral for the United States not to get involved.
The question that we must ask, then, is does our current situation fit the criteria for a just war? Is the United States justified in using its considerable military might against bin Laden and other terrorists? Let's look at what we know already.
The terrorists have attacked United States property and people before in the bombings of our two embassies in Africa and the attack on the USS Cole.
They have intentionally killed thousands of innocent civilians for no other purpose than to try and hurt us.
There will be a continuing threat of danger to U.S. citizens as it is highly likely the terrorists will try other acts in the future.
Taken together, I believe that it is the God-given responsibility of the United States government to protect all its citizens by declaring war on those who would seek us intentional harm. I believe that Romans 13 commands the government to not shirk its role of protector and guardian of all those who fall within its care, just as a police officer should not shirk his role of protecting those who fall within his care. To ignore such a dangerous threat to our population would be a bigger sin.
I hope this has helped clarify how Christians should approach this very sensitive topic. Although this is a very emotional issue, I think that we can thoughtfully discern the will of God and how He would want us to proceed. Please let me know how your class goes. I'd be interested in their reactions to this question.
It is our moral right and duty bound responsibility to ensure our republic form of government wholly defend the Nation and protect it's citizens, in-country and abroad, to the best of it's ability.
73.
ad4mg
02-04-2008, 09:47 AM
I lost you there, Steve ... I hope it isn't the cold getting to ya. I was just giving a mildly exaggerated description of OxyRushbo in an effort to point out your being a bit more than a tad hypocritical about this whole thing.
I find it curious that you take the defensive stand for Lush, the drug addict. You are definitely a good little neoconservative foot soldier. I hope it never comes to pass, but I wonder if you would defend a Democratic administration during time of war, just as you do for boosh the shrub.
I kinda doubt it. I think more of your hypocrisy would show.
n2ize
02-04-2008, 10:47 AM
I love it. Even hippies have to wake up and work once in awhile! ;)
Ok... so you mean hippies ran the WTC and the Pentagon ? Do you also have problems with hippies hiding in your closet and peeking in your windows at night ? There are people who can help you.
n2ize
02-04-2008, 11:06 AM
If politics has to do with discriminating between willful and patently illegal drug use / distribution and the insidious addicting effects of legal pain-killers... then, hell yes.
Go fish...
So in other words you support crime, just so long as you happen to agree with the criminal. Well,at least we know where you're coming from. Nuff said.
If politics has to do with discriminating between willful and patently illegal drug use / distribution and the insidious addicting effects of legal pain-killers... then, hell yes.
Go fish...
News flash for you. Willful and illegal is when you start to get multiple doctors to give you prescriptions for the same drug. Nothing accidental about his actions at that point.
That is the same as a junkie breaking into a pharmacy to get his fix.
I am willing to forgive Rush, just as I will forgive any other addict. That does not mean that I will listen to them for advice and insight.
Do you forgive GW for his alcohol abuse? He drank to get hammered and got addicted. It was not an accidental addiction, it was deliberate.
W3MIV
02-04-2008, 03:52 PM
That is the same as a junkie breaking into a pharmacy to get his fix.
No, it is NOT the same. Do not diminish a case by becoming overly zealous and reaching for ludicrous hyperboles to support your thesis.
No, it is NOT the same. Do not diminish a case by becoming overly zealous and reaching for ludicrous hyperboles to support your thesis.
Both are dishonest actions with the acquisition of drugs as the goal.
Only difference is that one guy is rich and the other is not.
W3MIV
02-04-2008, 06:11 PM
Both are dishonest actions with the acquisition of drugs as the goal.
Only difference is that one guy is rich and the other is not.
Not quite. You make no mention of burglary compounding another felony, both of which add up to a very far more serious charge. It would seem, therefore, to be a difference not really far apart from acquiring the drugs by way of an armed robbery or even a murder, wouldn't you agree?
Many people end up victimized by addiction to prescribed narcotics for a wide range of reasons, many if not most probably legitimate at the outset, but resort to doctor-shopping to satisfy their habits. Hell, how long ago was it that "Valley of the Dolls" was a best-seller?
My father-in-law is a WWII USAAF vet with a serious back problem for which the VA docs have prescribed Percoset. He is, and has been, addicted to them for some time. The docs know it, and they supply the 'scripts needed to manage the pain. If they did not, he would probably not have the ability to doctor-shop as readily as a Limbaugh might, but I have no doubt at all that he would be desperate and try whatever he could manage to satisfy the habit.
n2ize
02-04-2008, 06:11 PM
Both are dishonest actions with the acquisition of drugs as the goal.
Only difference is that one guy is rich and the other is not.
I have to agreee with MIV on this one. While I fully agree with you about people being very hypocritical I also agree that doctor shopping is not exactly like breaking into a drug store. Howeer,it is a means of acquiring narcotics illegally and it is indeed hypocritical for a person to condone this form of illegal drug acquisition while condeming others.
More on the Berkeley hate the Military crowd.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/08/video-code-stink-and-berkeley-vs-the-usmc/
Real Americans vs. Code Pinko and friends.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPrint.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200802/NAT20080212a.html
Hate military DEMS show their true colors, when the rubber hits the road.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/12/berkeley-update-dingy-harry-blocks-the-demint-defunding/?print=1
KC2PBJ
02-12-2008, 05:01 PM
In their next protest, all of the Bad Bay Gay Wolves are going to gather around the recruiting station and try to blow it down. Look out little green piggies!
kg6amw
02-12-2008, 09:27 PM
Berkeley is a place where arrogant a-holes reside who lost sight of reality a long time ago. Apparently the city council and other activists don't have enough to worry about so they set out to disrupt other peoples lives because they think differently than they do. Freedom of speech and recruiting activities is ok with them, so long as it agrees with their politics, but if it doesn’t well then drive them out. As I said, arrogant a-holes.
Berkeley is a place where arrogant a-holes reside who lost sight of reality a long time ago. Apparently the city council and other activists don't have enough to worry about so they set out to disrupt other peoples lives because they think differently than they do. Freedom of speech and recruiting activities is ok with them, so long as it agrees with their politics, but if it doesn’t well then drive them out. As I said, arrogant a-holes.
From the looks of things these last few days, Berkeley and it's University might be Cali's enclave for retarded hippie children of the 60's. Would N2IZE fit in? It's quite possible! You've gotta love our resident hippie...
73.
kg6amw
02-13-2008, 05:46 AM
Why do I think that the police might be instructed to be less than neutral if the protestors were blocking Planned Parenthood, or a political party HQ, or any other place people have the right to enter? Pitch black is the new enlightenment. Better to love the darkness than light a candle.
n2ize
02-13-2008, 07:17 AM
From the looks of things these last few days, Berkeley and it's University might be Cali's enclave for retarded hippie children of the 60's. Would N2IZE fit in? It's quite possible! You've gotta love our resident hippie...
73.
Hey Steve. Why don't you "put your money with your mouth is". Go to UCLA Berkeley or contact someone from there and debate one of the "retarded hippies of the 1960's" and show everyone how smart you are. Here's a head start.
http://www.berkeley.edu/
Hey Steve. Why don't you "put your money with your mouth is". Go to UCLA Berkeley or contact someone from there and debate one of the "retarded hippies of the 1960's" and show everyone how smart you are. Here's a head start.
http://www.berkeley.edu/
They wouldn't have me; I wouldn't have them. This is good.
Johnny, did I strike a nerve? I didn't mean to do so. Actually, I was expecting a light, whimsical, and heartened response!
73, old boy.
Why do I think that the police might be instructed to be less than neutral if the protestors were blocking Planned Parenthood, or a political party HQ, or any other place people have the right to enter? Pitch black is the new enlightenment. Better to love the darkness than light a candle.
Normally, most people know how their bread is buttered -- even in the darkness.
73.
Berkeley tries PR move, hate America, hate military nut jobs show true colors.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/13/berkeley-a-change-in-pr-strategy/?print=1
n2ize
02-13-2008, 06:54 PM
Berkeley tries PR move, hate America, hate military nut jobs show true colors.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/13/berkeley-a-change-in-pr-strategy/?print=1
I don't believe you. I don't belive anything coming from hotair.com. That's not a real neocon site.
You show me a link from newsbusters written by Noel Shepperd and then maybe, just maybe, I'll believe you.
Berkeley tries PR move, hate America, hate military nut jobs show true colors.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/13/berkeley-a-change-in-pr-strategy/?print=1
Great article.
I loved one of the first bloggers' responses: "Liberalism is never having to say your sorry."
So true!
Go Jim DeMint -- get that Semper Fi Act passed now!
Toodles.
KC2PBJ
02-14-2008, 01:35 AM
CNN has an interesting report that a Berkely protest has today burned and desecrated the American flag and done it publicly. Perhaps they are formally moving to have the Gay Bay accept Islam and give themselves to Iran. They are beneath our contempt. Also in protest, will they return their share of federal aid (including the Homeland Security fatted cow) or the higher education grants and aid that they receive? I think not.
CNN has an interesting report that a Berkely protest has today burned and desecrated the American flag and done it publicly. Perhaps they are formally moving to have the Gay Bay accept Islam and give themselves to Iran. They are beneath our contempt. Also in protest, will they return their share of federal aid (including the Homeland Security fatted cow) or the higher education grants and aid that they receive? I think not.
Absolutely no proof to your allegation. There's no CNN story, I looked.
YOU are beneath contempt for posting unsubstantiated lies.
What's with the "gay bay" crap? Do you know something I don't, even though I lived in the Bay Area for almost 50 years?
Give me a break. Your ignorance is astounding.
Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA
KA5LQJ
02-14-2008, 03:20 AM
You can't believe all the Bravo Sierra that AOHell puts out. But, they reported from their ÜberLeftist HQ that the City of Beserksly has reconsidered what they said to the Marine Corps. Bwahahahahaha!
Maybe someone whispered in the City Council's ear that we still had WMD's, LOL!
Neocon - aludes to right-wing Christians (aka. Nazi). Considered to be an 'insult hurled by ÜberLeftist Liberals at Christians, zealots or not.
Ooooorah!
Respectfully,
73,
Don/KA5-LQJ
Absolutely no proof to your allegation. There's no CNN story, I looked.
YOU are beneath contempt for posting unsubstantiated lies.
What's with the "gay bay" crap? Do you know something I don't, even though I lived in the Bay Area for almost 50 years?
Give me a break. Your ignorance is astounding.
Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA
Reference: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/13/berkeley.marines/
Excerpt:
" Ahead of the vote, passions ran high on both sides of the debate as pro-military demonstrators squared off with anti-war protesters. Berkeley police reported four arrests before the meeting began, all misdemeanors. Police said there were minor scuffles between the anti-war and pro-military camps.
An American flag was set aflame outside the City Council chambers, damaging a pair of bicycles, police said.
Inside, members of the anti-war group Code Pink lined up at the podium to speak. Their salmon-colored signs read, "Berkeley says No to War" and "City Council - We have your back."
I goggled it in ten seconds. Your researching skills stink.
Have a nice day!
...and Toodles.
DEMS vs. Marines.......I know the truth hurts, LIBS, sorry.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/14/video-unwelcome-intruders/?print=1
Turn the heat up....
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/16/the-siege-at-berkeley-not-over-yet/?print=1
N3ATS
02-17-2008, 03:58 PM
Why do I think that the police might be instructed to be less than neutral if the protestors were blocking Planned Parenthood, or a political party HQ, or any other place people have the right to enter? Pitch black is the new enlightenment. Better to love the darkness than light a candle.
I wonder how the lefties would feel if those on the right would block the entrance to an abortion clinic like this.
I wonder how the lefties would feel if those on the right would block the entrance to an abortion clinic like this.
SO RIGHT YOU ARE! Congrats on the fantastic analogy!
73!
Gold Star mom gives Berkeley what for.....
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/19/video-gold-star-mother-debbie-lee-tells-off-the-berkeley-city-council/?print=1
More real Americans vs. Berkeley.....
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/21/move-america-forwards-new-ad-a-message-to-berkeley/?print=1
Berkeley East.......
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=25132
They need to tell he Code Pinkos not to drink the water in Berkeley.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPrint.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200802/CUL20080225a.html
Going after Code Pinkos and other hate America types.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=25493
A little gift for the Code Pinkos and the rest of the hate America crowd.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/22/photos-the-counterinsurgency-in-berkeley/?print=1
A little gift for the Code Pinkos and the rest of the hate America crowd.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/22/photos-the-counterinsurgency-in-berkeley/?print=1
Funny how you quote an American hater in that context.
kd8dey
03-24-2008, 05:28 AM
Six land sickos at it again. Time to end all federal funding going to this hate the military city.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_8120433?source=rss
from the land of whispering bushes?
I swear, NeoCon heads are going to explode next year.
I'm wondering what hypocrisy they'll exhibit come 2009, should be entertaining in any case.
K8YZK
03-24-2008, 12:24 PM
"Red Green for President 08 "
Sorry but Red is Canadian, and can't be President yet, except for the Lodge.
Great show, and make sure you keep your stick on the ice...
kd8dey
03-24-2008, 08:58 PM
"Red Green for President 08 "
Sorry but Red is Canadian, and can't be President yet, except for the Lodge.
Great show, and make sure you keep your stick on the ice...
You mean they havn't been annexed yet?? wonder when they will get around to issuing the "amero" that I keep hearing tales about. Prolly backed by mexican oil......
March 2003: Anti-war zealots in Ithaca, N.Y., target a recruitment center that had been hit before with Molotov cocktails. On St. Patrick's Day, wielding cups of their own blood, they entered a Lansing military recruitment office and splashed their blood over recruiter posters, military cutouts and the American flag. Daniel Burns, Peter De Mott, Clare Grady and Teresa Grady were convicted in 2005 on two misdemeanor counts of trespassing and damaging federal property. All but Burns have been released from prison.
January 20, 2005: At Seattle Central Community College, Army recruiter Sgt. Jeff Due and his colleague Sgt. 1st Class Douglas Washington were hounded by an angry mob of 500 anti-war students. The recruiters' table was destroyed; their handouts, torn apart. Protesters threw water bottles and newspapers at the soldiers. The far-left Students Against War had been agitating to kick the recruiters off campus. The college administration refused to punish the radicals.
Jan. 31, 2005: Recruiters in Manhattan reported that a door to their office had been beaten in. Anarchist symbols were scrawled in red paint on the building. On the same day, New York police collared a young Manhattan College junior and charged him with throwing a burning rag into an Army recruiting station and ruining the door locks with super glue.
Feb. 1, 2005: At a South Toledo, Ohio, recruitment center, unhinged protesters hurled manure all over the building. They broke windows and sprayed vulgar graffiti -- "War is Sh*t" -- on office property.
Mid-Feb. 2005: Twenty-year-old anti-war goon Brendan Walsh is sentenced to five years in federal prison for hurling a Molotov cocktail through the window of a Vestal, N.Y., military recruitment office in 2003.
March 2005: In East Orange, N.J., young anti-military protesters shattered the windows of an Army recruitment station and a neighboring Navy office. At City College in New York, a campus secretary protesting recruiters was charged with second-degree assault, disorderly conduct and obstructing governmental administration. Police also arrested students Justin Rodriguez and Nicholas Bergreen for resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and assaulting a police officer.
March/April 2005: Anti-war extremists at New York's Bronx Community College shut down several military recruitment sessions. At UC Santa Cruz, "peace" thugs drove recruiters off campus after an hour-long demonstration of shouting and window banging.
May 2005: Anti-military students swarmed the booths of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the USAF at a San Francisco State University career fair. In Wisconsin, an Air Force ROTC information day was canceled due to threats by the University of Wisconsin-Madison chapter of Stop the War.
April 2006: UC Santa Cruz students ambushed military recruiters. Vandals at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill tossed cans of red paint in front of an ROTC office and spray-painted vulgarities all over its doors. University of Minnesota students splattered red paint all over an Army recruiting station.
December 2006: Anarchists in Lawrence, Kan., crippled business at an Army/Navy recruitment center, where workers' car tires were slashed and bomb-proof glass had to be installed.
Jan. 2007: Anti-war radicals laid siege to the U.S. Capitol and smashed windows at a downtown Washington recruitment center. Pittsburgh radicals shut down a recruitment station for a day, wielding signs calling recruiters "child predators."
March 2007: Vandals broke into a Milwaukee recruitment station wielding crowbars.
July 2007: A teenager in Bremerton, Wash., was charged with a felony for slashing 42 government tires of Army recruiting vehicles to protest the Iraq war and because he "hated the military." In Maryland, anti-recruiter vandals smashed a Rockville Air Force career center. In Lufkin, Texas, Navy recruiters were the targets of vandals who keyed their cars, smashed their windows and shot at their vehicles with "with what appeared to be a high-powered pellet gun."
August 2007: In Stamford, Conn., Francis Monaghan is arrested on charges that he twice left a fake bomb package at a military recruitment office.
September 2007: The far-left group Iraq Veterans Against the War calls on followers to commit fraud to interfere with military recruiters. Anti-war punks shut down the Times Square recruitment station.
October 2007: Code Pink defaces the Berkeley recruitment office, branding our troops as assassins.
Jan. 2008: The Code Pink/city council siege at the Berkeley recruiting center reaches a boiling point. Protesters chain themselves to the station to shut it down, and vandalize the windows with bloody handprints and signs branding recruiters "death pimps."
Feb. 2008: Anarchists trash the recruiting station at 14th and L Streets in Washington, D.C., which has been subjected to multiple attacks.
March 2008: The bomb goes off at the Times Square recruitment station.
When will this escalating war end? There will be no end in sight until lawmakers, law enforcement, the media and the public open their eyes to the hate, connect the dots, and stop coddling the increasingly crazed and emboldened anti-military militants before more bombs go off -- and innocents get harmed -- in the name of "peace."
Reverend King's spinning in his grave.
Ref: http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_commentary/commentary_by_michelle_malkin/the_left_s_escalating_war_on_military_recruiters
n2ize
03-25-2008, 01:48 AM
March 2003: Anti-war zealots in Ithaca, N.Y., target a recruitment center that had been hit before with Molotov cocktails. On St. Patrick's Day, wielding cups of their own blood, they entered a Lansing military recruitment office and splashed their blood over recruiter posters, military cutouts and the American flag. Daniel Burns, Peter De Mott, Clare Grady and Teresa Grady were convicted in 2005 on two misdemeanor counts of trespassing and damaging federal property. All but Burns have been released from prison.
January 20, 2005: At Seattle Central Community College, Army recruiter Sgt. Jeff Due and his colleague Sgt. 1st Class Douglas Washington were hounded by an angry mob of 500 anti-war students. The recruiters' table was destroyed; their handouts, torn apart. Protesters threw water bottles and newspapers at the soldiers. The far-left Students Against War had been agitating to kick the recruiters off campus. The college administration refused to punish the radicals.
Jan. 31, 2005: Recruiters in Manhattan reported that a door to their office had been beaten in. Anarchist symbols were scrawled in red paint on the building. On the same day, New York police collared a young Manhattan College junior and charged him with throwing a burning rag into an Army recruiting station and ruining the door locks with super glue.
Feb. 1, 2005: At a South Toledo, Ohio, recruitment center, unhinged protesters hurled manure all over the building. They broke windows and sprayed vulgar graffiti -- "War is Sh*t" -- on office property.
Mid-Feb. 2005: Twenty-year-old anti-war goon Brendan Walsh is sentenced to five years in federal prison for hurling a Molotov cocktail through the window of a Vestal, N.Y., military recruitment office in 2003.
March 2005: In East Orange, N.J., young anti-military protesters shattered the windows of an Army recruitment station and a neighboring Navy office. At City College in New York, a campus secretary protesting recruiters was charged with second-degree assault, disorderly conduct and obstructing governmental administration. Police also arrested students Justin Rodriguez and Nicholas Bergreen for resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and assaulting a police officer.
March/April 2005: Anti-war extremists at New York's Bronx Community College shut down several military recruitment sessions. At UC Santa Cruz, "peace" thugs drove recruiters off campus after an hour-long demonstration of shouting and window banging.
May 2005: Anti-military students swarmed the booths of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the USAF at a San Francisco State University career fair. In Wisconsin, an Air Force ROTC information day was canceled due to threats by the University of Wisconsin-Madison chapter of Stop the War.
April 2006: UC Santa Cruz students ambushed military recruiters. Vandals at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill tossed cans of red paint in front of an ROTC office and spray-painted vulgarities all over its doors. University of Minnesota students splattered red paint all over an Army recruiting station.
December 2006: Anarchists in Lawrence, Kan., crippled business at an Army/Navy recruitment center, where workers' car tires were slashed and bomb-proof glass had to be installed.
Jan. 2007: Anti-war radicals laid siege to the U.S. Capitol and smashed windows at a downtown Washington recruitment center. Pittsburgh radicals shut down a recruitment station for a day, wielding signs calling recruiters "child predators."
March 2007: Vandals broke into a Milwaukee recruitment station wielding crowbars.
July 2007: A teenager in Bremerton, Wash., was charged with a felony for slashing 42 government tires of Army recruiting vehicles to protest the Iraq war and because he "hated the military." In Maryland, anti-recruiter vandals smashed a Rockville Air Force career center. In Lufkin, Texas, Navy recruiters were the targets of vandals who keyed their cars, smashed their windows and shot at their vehicles with "with what appeared to be a high-powered pellet gun."
August 2007: In Stamford, Conn., Francis Monaghan is arrested on charges that he twice left a fake bomb package at a military recruitment office.
September 2007: The far-left group Iraq Veterans Against the War calls on followers to commit fraud to interfere with military recruiters. Anti-war punks shut down the Times Square recruitment station.
October 2007: Code Pink defaces the Berkeley recruitment office, branding our troops as assassins.
Jan. 2008: The Code Pink/city council siege at the Berkeley recruiting center reaches a boiling point. Protesters chain themselves to the station to shut it down, and vandalize the windows with bloody handprints and signs branding recruiters "death pimps."
Feb. 2008: Anarchists trash the recruiting station at 14th and L Streets in Washington, D.C., which has been subjected to multiple attacks.
March 2008: The bomb goes off at the Times Square recruitment station.
Ad nobody has yet to attruibute the bomb in times square toCode Pink or any anti war activity. It could have been an agent provocateur of which there were many during the Vietnam era.
When will this escalating war end? There will be no end in sight until lawmakers, law enforcement, the media and the public open their eyes to the hate, connect the dots, and stop coddling the increasingly crazed and emboldened anti-military militants before more bombs go off -- and innocents get harmed -- in the name of "peace."
Ref: http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_commentary/commentary_by_michelle_malkin/the_left_s_escalating_war_on_military_recruiters
Maybe it's a by prroduct of the escalating abuse of ilitary power by politicians who could care less about you, me or our men and women in uniform. The point is that any are of politics in which there are strong sentiments is going to bring out a smalkl number of extremist loons. The same can be said of pro war, pro conservative extremists. Case and point, look at the violence, hatred, and death spewed out by the anti-abortion crowd.
I saw many anti war marches and demonstrations back in the 1960'sand 1970's and the ONLY violence I saw was done 1) By men in uniform, i.e. the police, 2) By provocateurs, and 3) By the national guard who murdered students, several of which who were not even protesting, and one who was an ROTC member, killed by their own country and their deaths justified by Nixon and Agnew.
n2ize
03-25-2008, 01:50 AM
Funny how you quote an American hater in that context.
Yeah, but they're not even aware of their own hypocrisy.
Looks like the Code Pinko bunch has started a junior auxiliary.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/24/ani-war-protesters-attack-catholic-easter-services-in-chicago/?print=1
Ad nobody has yet to attruibute the bomb in times square toCode Pink or any anti war activity. It could have been an agent provocateur of which there were many during the Vietnam era.
Maybe it's a by prroduct of the escalating abuse of ilitary power by politicians who could care less about you, me or our men and women in uniform. The point is that any are of politics in which there are strong sentiments is going to bring out a smalkl number of extremist loons. The same can be said of pro war, pro conservative extremists. Case and point, look at the violence, hatred, and death spewed out by the anti-abortion crowd.
I saw many anti war marches and demonstrations back in the 1960'sand 1970's and the ONLY violence I saw was done 1) By men in uniform, i.e. the police, 2) By provocateurs, and 3) By the national guard who murdered students, several of which who were not even protesting, and one who was an ROTC member, killed by their own country and their deaths justified by Nixon and Agnew.
The tables have turned... you cannot rationalize the crazy Left's behavior. It's plainly despicable.
Toodles.
ad4mg
03-25-2008, 11:19 AM
The tables have turned... you cannot rationalize the crazy Left's behavior. It's plainly despicable.
Toodles.
Message brought to you by Frozen Steve and his NeoKon Bear. Sponsored by the Party of Hate, and all the New American Century, New World Order, and Bush Doctrine inspired war mongering conservative lunatics.
Sieg Heil Bush - duh decider.
How's that for crazy, big guy? :)
w2amr
03-25-2008, 12:45 PM
Sorry, Charlie. I am discriminating for the right reasons. Rush never intended to allow the circumstances unfold they way they did. The "hippies" and/or criminals who have used and distributed patently illegal drugs have known exactly what they are doing -- from the very beginning. The harm and evil from illegal drug distribution and use far surpasses insidious prescription drug addictions unknowingly attaching themselves to their hapless victims.
As I've said before, there a big diff between these typical situations.
Learn to discriminate, young one.
73.
Limbaugh 1995:
"Too many whites are getting away with drug use...Too many whites are getting away with drug sales...The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send them up the river, too."
Slime ball Hypocrite . End of story.
Code Pinko breeding grounds, guess all the war heros are Republicans??
http://www.startribune.com/politics/local/16971116.html
Message brought to you by Frozen Steve and his NeoKon Bear. Sponsored by the Party of Hate, and all the New American Century, New World Order, and Bush Doctrine inspired war mongering conservative lunatics.
Sieg Heil Bush - duh decider.
How's that for crazy, big guy? :)
How did you know of my German ancestry? Did my glorious sir name give it away?
73!
n2ize
03-25-2008, 06:24 PM
Funny how you quote an American hater in that context.
If he's a representative of whatlives outside of Berkely then I would move to Berkely immediatly.
n2ize
03-25-2008, 06:25 PM
More on the Berkeley hate the Military crowd.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/08/video-code-stink-and-berkeley-vs-the-usmc/
That's why Uncle Sam, the Military, and corporate America comes to Berkely when they need research and new ideas.
That's why Uncle Sam, the Military, and corporate America comes to Berkely when they need research and new ideas.
New? I'd call them radical ideas leftover from the 60's. Try again! :)
New? I'd call them radical ideas leftover from the 60's. Try again! :)
Call them your superiors for all I care. If it quacks like a duck...
Call them your superiors for all I care. If it quacks like a duck...
Yes... those with superiority complexes -- for sure. ;):rolleyes:
Long-haired hippies are so "ducky." Superior ducks?
Try again.
n2ize
03-25-2008, 06:50 PM
The tables have turned... you cannot rationalize the crazy Left's behavior. It's plainly despicable.
Toodles.
I fail to understand your statement. It makes no sense.
I fail to understand your statement. It makes no sense.
Statements from around Palmer haven't been making sense since I used the privy on a flight while crossing the town there last December on my way to Tokyo..
n2ize
03-25-2008, 07:08 PM
Yes... those with superiority complexes -- for sure. ;):rolleyes:
Long-haired hippies are so "ducky." Superior ducks?
Try again.
Everyone loves us hippies because we get to wear our hair long, we listen to groovy music, we wear beads and flowers and tye dyed shirts and bell bottoms and we all hang out together and have a really good times and on top of all that we all got our Ph.D's and we got all the good jobs working and teaching in all the top colleges and Universities and when anyone needs new research, new ideas, new technology they have to come to us so that we can figure it all out for them. Plus, we can wear our hair long at work and nobody bothers us about it. It just makes some people green with envy...
Everyone loves us hippies because we get to wear our hair long, we listen to groovy music, we wear beads and flowers and tye dyed shirts and bell bottoms and we all hang out together and have a really good times and on top of all that we all got our Ph.D's and we got all the good jobs working and teaching in all the top colleges and Universities and when anyone needs new research, new ideas, new technology they have to come to us so that we can figure it all out for them. Plus, we can wear our hair long at work and nobody bothers us about it. It just makes some people green with envy...
Ph.D's figure stuff out? I don't think so... When orgs need things done, they hire or let folks like me, INTJ's with practicality, ingenuity, keen engineering experience, real intuitive capabilities, and abilities to figure things out on their own, get to the heart of the matter at-hand. The Ph.D's just take all the credit. Hmm... that must be the reason the DoJ & DoD hired me to do RDT&E a few years back -- developing a reasonably reliable and inexpensive way to link disparate, digital land mobile radio systems, using DoD-approved AES encryption over wireless and wired paths, via lower-cost, shared, IP over Satellite (IPoS) systems. Perhaps it was because I had a track record of actually doing and accomplishing great things. BTW, a Ph.D. didn't take credit for my project...
Anyway, I keep my hair short -- more or less to similar to my prior military days. Why? Silly me... it's just too easy to keep clean and kept this way. I'm do retain some amount of vanity in my early 40's, and I'm not interested in attracting a French woman who, must likely, doesn't shave. It's just that clean look and feeling (hygiene) we normal Americans enjoy.
Chow.
Ph.D's figure stuff out? I don't think so... When orgs need things done, they hire or let folks like me, INTJ's with practicality, ingenuity, keen engineering experience, real intuitive capabilities, and abilities to figure things out on their own, get to the heart of the matter at-hand. The Ph.D's just take all the credit. Hmm... that must be the reason the DoJ & DoD hired me to do RDT&E a few years back -- developing a reasonably reliable and inexpensive way to link disparate, digital land mobile radio systems, using DoD-approved AES encryption over wireless and wired paths, via lower-cost, shared, IP over Satellite (IPoS) systems. Perhaps it was because I had a track record of actually doing and accomplishing great things. BTW, a Ph.D. didn't take credit for my project...
Anyway, I keep my hair short -- more or less to similar to my prior military days. Why? Silly me... it's just too easy to keep clean and kept this way. I'm do retain some amount of vanity in my early 40's, and I'm not interested in attracting a French woman who, must likely, doesn't shave. It's just that clean look and feeling (hygiene) we normal Americans enjoy.
Chow.
Come back and attempt to impress when you improve beyond hooking up RJ-45 connectors.
Ph.D's figure stuff out? I don't think so... When orgs need things done, they hire or let folks like me, INTJ's with practicality, ingenuity, keen engineering experience, real intuitive capabilities, and abilities to figure things out on their own, get to the heart of the matter at-hand. The Ph.D's just take all the credit. Hmm... that must be the reason the DoJ & DoD hired me to do RDT&E a few years back -- developing a reasonably reliable and inexpensive way to link disparate, digital land mobile radio systems, using DoD-approved AES encryption over wireless and wired paths, via lower-cost, shared, IP over Satellite (IPoS) systems. Perhaps it was because I had a track record of actually doing and accomplishing great things. BTW, a Ph.D. didn't take credit for my project...
Anyway, I keep my hair short -- more or less to similar to my prior military days. Why? Silly me... it's just too easy to keep clean and kept this way. I'm do retain some amount of vanity in my early 40's, and I'm not interested in attracting a French woman who, must likely, doesn't shave. It's just that clean look and feeling (hygiene) we normal Americans enjoy.
Chow.
BWAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAA!
Right'o there Stevie! Sure thing!
Psssst, a little secret - the French aren't hairy.
Cao bella!
BWAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAA!
Right'o there Stevie! Sure thing!
Psssst, a little secret - the French aren't hairy.
Cao bella!
How would or could a guy from somewhere near Palmer, Alaska know something like this? The closest thing to "French" he could know about is French Fries.
kd8dey
03-26-2008, 06:25 PM
The closest thing to "French" he could know about is French Fries.
Thought after 9/11 they changed the name to freedom fries??:confused:
Thought after 9/11 they changed the name to freedom fries??:confused:
How could they have known about this in Alaska?
Come back and attempt to impress when you improve beyond hooking up RJ-45 connectors.
I wished it was that easy... you should have seen the volumes of paper I generated for this competitive $1.3 million, DoD & DoJ grant and subsequent project. The writing of subcontractor statements of work, drawing up the test plan, etc. You should have seen the matrix of tested satcom providers, Radio over IP gateway products, VPN tunneling boxes, encryption and transport circuit variations, P25 trunked radios simulating remote and local connectivity, and test equipment to quantify packets, record, and statistically validate end-resulting voice quality characteristics (utilizing TSB-88) and circuit iterations. Resulting successful combinations were few and far between...
Nothing is ever as easy as it seems. Especially when it's done in Alaska.
BWAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAA!
Right'o there Stevie! Sure thing!
Psssst, a little secret - the French aren't hairy.
Cao bella!
The French, as well as a good part of Europe, let themselves go. Perhaps it's the cost of hygiene levels we keep that keep them down... or not.
I see you're back with flair. Who did you bribe?
The French, as well as a good part of Europe, let themselves go. Perhaps it's the cost of hygiene levels we keep that keep them down... or not.
I see you're back with flair. Who did you bribe?
Wow, you really are clueless about Europe aren't you?
Well, being here right at this moment gives me some insight that you evidently lack. You should come and take a look for yourself sometime, at least that way you can speak with some authority on the subject instead of spewing forth outdated and completely wrong stereotypes that were created to make insecure Americans feel superior.
I did my time out Steve, I wasn't banned.
And now I am a paying customer and as long as I play by the rules I can slap you guys around with facts to my hearts content.
Nothing in the rules says I can't be as nasty and mean spirited as you guys are. And in that respect I don't even come close to your levels of outright nastiness, you guys just whine about it because I call you on your spin and can't be spun in return.
But keep on trying, it would be boring if you didn't.
Now, en garde! :D
Wow, you really are clueless about Europe aren't you?
Well, being here right at this moment gives me some insight that you evidently lack. You should come and take a look for yourself sometime, at least that way you can speak with some authority on the subject instead of spewing forth outdated and completely wrong stereotypes that were created to make insecure Americans feel superior.
I did my time out Steve, I wasn't banned.
And now I am a paying customer and as long as I play by the rules I can slap you guys around with facts to my hearts content.
Nothing in the rules says I can't be as nasty and mean spirited as you guys are. And in that respect I don't even come close to your levels of outright nastiness, you guys just whine about it because I call you on your spin and can't be spun in return.
But keep on trying, it would be boring if you didn't.
Now, en garde! :D
Ah, I only spent a little over a year in Europe, twenty years ago. Have they cleaned themselves up since then? Do they bathe more than 1 or twice a week -- deodorant and all?
Please tell us the trends today. I am interested.
BTW, whose whining? Keep trying... :D