View Full Version : Ron Paul Wins Florida
Not quite. The latest poll shows McCain & Romney in a dead heat, followed by Mr. 9/11.
Ron Paul is polling 4% below "Undecided" and 2% above "Other." So, he's losing to none of the above and beating Mickey Mouse by 2%.
Another glorious win in a long line of consecutive er.. non delegates?
Well he's consistent.
http://politics.nytimes.com/packages/html/election-guide/2008/primaries/states/FL.html
W3MIV
01-29-2008, 06:08 PM
Well he's consistent.
So, too, his ardent league of boosters. Consistently wrong.
So, too, his ardent league of boosters. Consistently wrong.
LOL!
:D
Weren't they supposed to clean up on the supporters of those who dropped out??
AE6IP
01-29-2008, 06:33 PM
LOL!
:D
Weren't they supposed to clean up on the supporters of those who dropped out??
I think I'm starting to understand what the twenty million is going to be used for.
kc2orw
01-29-2008, 07:14 PM
I think I'm starting to understand what the twenty million is going to be used for.
Yep a nice vacation in Europe :D
Ron Paul Wins Florida!
Story here: http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/190999.php
AE6IP
01-30-2008, 01:07 AM
with 20% of the vote in, Ron Paul is in fifth place.
But it's different than before. Now he's only polling a mere 3% of the vote!
At least he's still (barely) ahead of Thompson, who dropped out of the race.
Isn't it time for the good doctor to admit that he's done?
W3MIV
01-30-2008, 01:22 AM
Isn't it time for the good doctor to admit that he's done?
He is waiting for his orders from the mothership.
With 30% counted a big 3% for Ron.
kc2orw
01-30-2008, 01:28 AM
While we are playing the horse race game I have this thought.
I was watching CNN and listening to the experts, self appointed without a doubt, pontificate. They were all making bets about Guiliani dropping out before Super Tuesday.
So I will add my own expert, self appointed without a doubt, opinion on that very topic.
Guiliani will stay in till Super Tuesday and possibly beyond even though he has no money and shows up nowhere. Why, to steal votes away from the single digit candidate. Eveyone loves seeing Mickey Mouse listed as a candidate Guiliani is now Mickey Mouse :D
KG4JYD
01-30-2008, 01:56 AM
Ron was not expected to do well in Florida. However he'll do very well on Super Tuesday it looks like.
AE6IP
01-30-2008, 04:33 AM
Ron was not expected to do well in Florida. However he'll do very well on Super Tuesday it looks like.
and by "very well" we mean he'll be back to four percent of the popular vote.
Stick a fork in him. He's over.
KG4JYD
01-30-2008, 05:57 AM
the popular vote.Popular vote doesn't matter. Delegates do, and even to a certain extent they don't. What really will matter is what happens on the floor of the GOP convention. That's where this will be decided. Oh - and it looks like I am going to be a delegate from Tennessee.
W4DFW
01-30-2008, 05:58 AM
Wasn't that asteroid coming close to Earth supposed to pick him up?
Hey, I'm just asking!!
W4DFW
01-30-2008, 05:59 AM
Ron was not expected to do well in Florida. However he'll do very well on Super Tuesday it looks like.
Wanna bet??
KG4JYD
01-30-2008, 06:05 AM
Wanna bet??No. But again, even if he doesn't it won't matter because it's going to be a brokered convention.
AE6IP
01-30-2008, 06:15 AM
Popular vote doesn't matter. Delegates do, and even to a certain extent they don't. What really will matter is what happens on the floor of the GOP convention. That's where this will be decided. Oh - and it looks like I am going to be a delegate from Tennessee.
Weren't you recently calling me all sorts of names for pointing that out?
Paul looks even worse in the delegate count than he does in the popular votes.
He got zero again in Florida.
K7JEM
01-30-2008, 06:20 AM
He got zero again in Florida.
Yes, but he may get ten to twenty times that number on Tuesday!
AE6IP
01-30-2008, 06:22 AM
No. But again, even if he doesn't it won't matter because it's going to be a brokered convention.
You need to wake up to reality, Matt.
The Republican convention is very unlikely to be brokered, and if it is brokered, it isn't going to be Ron Paul brokering it.
If McCain comes out of next Tuesday clearly in the lead, the party leadership will finally remember that they're the Republican party, and will close ranks around him. Concessions will be made to Romney, who will gracefully bow out, as will Giuliani and Huckabee, if they haven't already.
As is normally the case, the nomination will be made on the first round of ballots and none of your fantasies about released delegates will have the slightest chance of happening.
The only chance Paul has of "brokering" anything is if McCain and Romney come out of next Tuesday in a dead heat and Huckabee and Giuliani, who are, after all, still on all those ballots, poll less than Paul.
Huckabee, whose only win so far was a fluke, stands a better chance of 'brokering' a Republican convention than Paul does, and he stands the same chance I stand of winning that Irish Sweepstakes I keep forgetting to enter.
KG4JYD
01-30-2008, 06:41 AM
The Republican convention is very unlikely to be brokered, and if it is brokered, it isn't going to be Ron Paul brokering it.The way things are going, we are headed towards one. It may not happen but all indicators are that it presently will.
If McCain comes out of next Tuesday clearly in the lead, the party leadership will finally remember that they're the Republican party, and will close ranks around him. You fail to see that many conservatives DON'T like McCain and won't vote for him.
Huckabee, whose only win so far was a fluke, stands a better chance of 'brokering' a Republican convention than Paul does, and he stands the same chance I stand of winning that Irish Sweepstakes I keep forgetting to enter.Huckabee is broke and will quit after Super Tuesday unless he sweeps everything. And even then he won't have any money to continue.
the nomination will be made on the first round of ballots and none of your fantasies about released delegates will have the slightest chance of happening.Then the Democrats will win the White House; it's just that simple. :(
AE6IP
01-30-2008, 07:22 AM
The way things are going, we are headed towards one. It may not happen but all indicators are that it presently will.
You fail to see that many conservatives DON'T like McCain and won't vote for him.
You fail to see that "many conservatives" do tolerate McCain and have voted for him already and will continue to do so.
Huckabee is broke and will quit after Super Tuesday unless he sweeps everything. And even then he won't have any money to continue.
Then the Democrats will win the White House; it's just that simple. :(
I'll take Obama over any of the Republicans, thanks.
It's Mrs Clinton who is the Democrat to worry about; and despite your hopes, she would mop up the floor with Ron Paul if she were the democratic candidate and he the Republican.
As far as the Republicans losing to the Democrats you have, mainly, the current president to blame for that.
KG4JYD
01-30-2008, 09:36 PM
You fail to see that "many conservatives" do tolerate McCain and have voted for him already and will continue to do so.But they don't like McCain on the immigration issue. And also McCain can't win against the Democrats because he has stated "We'll be in Iraq for 100 years". So you'll have a lot of independent/conservative/libertarians who will NOT vote for McCain and will go 3rd party, write-in, or sit-out. And no liberal/Democrat will vote for McCain guaranteed.
As far as the Republicans losing to Democrats you have, mainly, the current president to blame for that.Absolutely the Republicans have shot themselves in the foot and deserve not to be in office. Ron Paul is the lone exception to that because he is a different kind of Republican.
Now the Democrats can easily win this election given a few things: 1- They don't put a black man up whose middle name is Hussein and is believed to be a Muslim by most of the country. 2- Ron Paul isn't their opponent. 3- They don't put up a woman who EVERYONE hates.
John Edwards would've been a smart choice for the Dems but they are not that bright (although the GOP isn't that bright either to be honest).
W3MIV
01-30-2008, 09:40 PM
John Edwards would've been a smart choice for the Dems but they are not that bright (although the GOP isn't that bright either to be honest).
Astonishing. Absolutely astonishing. :eek:
KG4JYD
01-31-2008, 01:48 AM
Astonishing. Absolutely astonishing. :eek:Simple. Edwards was the most electable of the 3 of them.
W3MIV
01-31-2008, 01:52 AM
Simple. Edwards was the most electable of the 3 of them.
I am starting to understand the logic that exists on the other side of the mirror. Edwards, receiving the least votes of the Democrats, becomes "the most electable" of the lot. Now I understand how Ron Paul, finishing dead last, will undoubtedly win the Presidency.
Jeez, Matt, it really is simple! Thanks for clearing that up for me.
K7JEM
01-31-2008, 02:09 AM
I am starting to understand the logic that exists on the other side of the mirror. Edwards, receiving the least votes of the Democrats, becomes "the most electable" of the lot. Now I understand how Ron Paul, finishing dead last, will undoubtedly win the Presidency.
Jeez, Matt, it really is simple! Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Welcome to RonPaulWorld. Where up is down, black is white, and getting a lot of votes will guarantee that you won't be elected.
Am I crazy or is it them?
Please tell me it's them.
It's them, right?
Joe
W3MIV
01-31-2008, 11:18 AM
After the primaries, all you will see of Ron Paul is his grin. In a little while, that too will fade.
Have another mushroom and shut up.