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KU0DM
01-27-2008, 02:26 AM
Obama won South Carolina!

Billary: 3
Obama: 2

KB1KIX
01-27-2008, 02:56 AM
Getting even further ahead in delegates.

This will make Billary very angry.

Billary will blame the media for focusing on the race thing, his campaign, etc.

Yet, she/he never really did focus on issues over Obama.

It's a weird world when Edwards started to sound like he was making sense in the debates!

Jonathan

kc2orw
01-27-2008, 03:20 AM
Funny even CNN (Formerly Clinton News Network) were going on a bit about Hill letting big Bill run wild. Even funnier you could tell she set up this very staged event in Tenn. (not SC) to make her speech where she acts as if she won and CNN fades it to black :D Ah momentum is a funny thing it is so amusing to watch a Republican like Bill Benett get excited over a Democrats campaign ain't it. Maybe it just Obama has some charisma that the others are sorely lacking. Oh well Fla next and the Super Tuesday, her we go :)

W3MIV
01-27-2008, 12:54 PM
Quite a substantial win, too. Fifty-five percent versus 27 for Shrillary and 18 for Edwards.

The growing awareness of the politically cynical use Bill Clinton has made of the Black community will present an ever more serious problem to the Clintons, Howard Dean and the other party hacks who have vested large interests in a return of Clinton machine to power.

Expect an even lower road to be taken by the Clintons as their mutual desperation grows. You may note that Shrillary is already having second thoughts about her earlier support for the Demo Party rule that punished Michigan delegates and would punish Florida delegates. When she thought that it would benefit her to the injury of others, all was hunky-dory; now, of course, we can expect to see some pronouncements about "fairness" to emerge from the Klinton Kamp.

k2gsp
01-27-2008, 01:05 PM
Quite a substantial win, too. Fifty-five percent versus 27 for Shrillary and 18 for Edwards.

The growing awareness of the politically cynical use Bill Clinton has made of the Black community will present an ever more serious problem to the Clintons, Howard Dean and the other party hacks who have vested large interests in a return of Clinton machine to power.

Expect an even lower road to be taken by the Clintons as their mutual desperation grows. You may note that Shrillary is already having second thoughts about her earlier support for the Demo Party rule that punished Michigan delegates and would punish Florida delegates. When she thought that it would benefit her to the injury of others, all was hunky-dory; now, of course, we can expect to see some pronouncements about "fairness" to emerge from the Klinton Kamp.

You hit that nail on the head. That's why she kept her name on the ballot in both states, so she could use it down the road if need be.

K3XR
01-27-2008, 01:09 PM
Will Uncle Ted be next??
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27kennedy.html?pagewanted=print

KE7JFA
01-27-2008, 01:29 PM
Osama the drug dealing anti american muslim.
Oh, but he's much better now.

ad4mg
01-27-2008, 01:35 PM
Osama the drug dealing anti american muslim.
Oh, but he's much better now.

Pitiful. You couldn't be more uninformed. I certainly hope that, given your total lack of knowledge regarding political candidates, you don't plan on voting.

Only woefully stupid individuals attempt to perpetuate the feeble accusation that this candidate is a Muslim. Welcome to that exclusive club.

You have any additional lies from your cesspool of stupidity?

KE7JFA
01-27-2008, 01:44 PM
Pitiful. You couldn't be more uninformed. I certainly hope that, given your total lack of knowledge regarding political candidates, you don't plan on voting.

Only woefully stupid individuals attempt to perpetuate the feeble accusation that this candidate is a Muslim. Welcome to that exclusive club.

You have any additional lies from your cesspool of stupidity?

The guy does not even have the RESPECT to say the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
Police state? No rights? Gun control? Yep, vote for osama and you got it.

It is said this country is not divided. It is plain and simple.
Look at the south. They are still pissed off at losing the civil war.

He is a dirt bag and I would not trust him.

W3MIV
01-27-2008, 01:48 PM
He is a dirt bag and I would not trust him.

So, vote for Shrillary and see how far your gun rights go. Or Giuliani. Or Romney. Or Edwards.

You have a bigger problem than maybe you realize. Mike Dillon ain't running.

ad4mg
01-27-2008, 01:52 PM
The guy does not even have the RESPECT to say the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
Police state? No rights? Gun control? Yep, vote for osama and you got it.

It is said this country is not divided. It is plain and simple.
Look at the south. They are still pissed off at losing the civil war.

He is a dirt bag and I would not trust him.

At least you stopped spewing lies. Divided country? Thank the neocons ... it's a long standing tradition with them. Civil War still an issue? You don't get out much, do you?

Police state? See "Patriot Act", which is anything but patriotic. Just another attempt to control the populace by the war mongering neocons.

KE7JFA
01-27-2008, 02:03 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/zamphir/obamadis.jpg

A real stand up guy...
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE....TO THE CORPORATE DOMINATION OF AMERICA.....AND TO THE STOCK MARKET.....AS PROFITS IS ALL THAT MATTERS......ONE GOAL....STEAL ALL....DIVIDE AND CONQUER....WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR SOME..............................

K3XR
01-27-2008, 02:30 PM
Barry and the Beast.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTBiMGMwYWQ1MTdmY2RiMDA2ZDRkNDA3MTM4NzM4ODE=

KU0DM
01-27-2008, 03:41 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/zamphir/obamadis.jpg

A real stand up guy...
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE....TO THE CORPORATE DOMINATION OF AMERICA.....AND TO THE STOCK MARKET.....AS PROFITS IS ALL THAT MATTERS......ONE GOAL....STEAL ALL....DIVIDE AND CONQUER....WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR SOME..............................

Wow, I can't believe you've fallen for all that BS, hook line and sinker.

That is something that a puppet of Bush would post dude.

How about we hear your reasoning and facts behind those comments.
Or are you just being a GOP puppet?

We'll be listening...but not holding our breaths.

KE7JFA
01-27-2008, 04:00 PM
Fallen for what BS?
A picture is worth a thousand words yet people will continue to support that idiot.
I guess they don't care about America anymore.
Then again, nobody cares about others anymore.
New Orleans proved that. From what I witnessed at the black Friday sales last year proves it also.
I am convinced people are rude, nasty and care about themselves only.

People nowadays are sheep. They follow, they don't lead.
They are too appliance.

This Osama fool is going to get soft. You will see. He will give in to other countries and won't care about people in USA but when I am right (and you know I am) you and the others will deny that you voted for him.
He probably thinks the UN is a good thing too.

Anyway, I must go to workout because I am not a lazy person going from my computer to ham station.
Obesity in America has gotten out of control. Wasn't the democrats going to actually pay people to workout and get fit?

Getting fat is un-American.

N2RJ
01-27-2008, 04:10 PM
The guy does not even have the RESPECT to say the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
Police state? No rights? Gun control? Yep, vote for osama and you got it.

It is said this country is not divided. It is plain and simple.
Look at the south. They are still pissed off at losing the civil war.

He is a dirt bag and I would not trust him.

Then maybe the south should have done what it takes to win the civil war. Losing the civil war is not our fault you know.

KU0DM
01-27-2008, 04:10 PM
Several points about that picture:

Where are the supports for the big flag?

Why is Obama looking one way, the other guy looking a different way, and Hillary looking behind them all?

I am still waiting for reasoning and facts behind those comments.


No, I don't know you are right. I know you need to back-up those statements with reason though before I believe you.

Till then it's just meaningless slander.

Anyway, I must go to workout because I am not a lazy person going from my computer to ham station.
Obesity in America has gotten out of control. Wasn't the democrats going to actually pay people to workout and get fit?

Getting fat is un-American.

Don't worry about me. I have already been out for a run, and plan to go climbing with some friends later today.

nx6d
01-27-2008, 04:37 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/zamphir/obamadis.jpg

A real stand up guy...
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE....TO THE CORPORATE DOMINATION OF AMERICA.....AND TO THE STOCK MARKET.....AS PROFITS IS ALL THAT MATTERS......ONE GOAL....STEAL ALL....DIVIDE AND CONQUER....WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR SOME..............................


Jingoistic nonsense.

This probably sells with your fellow talk radio nitwits.

I think it's good that Obama doesn't buy into the "gotta wear an American flag lapel pin 24x7" mentality.

What rock did you crawl out from under?

Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA

k8cpa
01-27-2008, 05:35 PM
You have a bigger problem than maybe you realize. Mike Dillon ain't running.

Neither is David Duke. :rolleyes:

k8cpa
01-27-2008, 05:38 PM
Getting fat is un-American.

So is being an uninformed, stupid idiot. :eek::rolleyes:

K3XR
01-27-2008, 05:41 PM
Way to go Billy Jeff, (BJ) keep picking on the black guy and he'll keep winning.


http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/27/billy-jeff-hey-you-know-who-obama-reminds-me-of-jesse-jackson/?print=1

K3UD
01-27-2008, 05:58 PM
OK, This is from far out in left field, but I have been following the the Bill and Hill saga that seems to have upset the apple cart for Hillary and seems to benefit Obama. Is this a miscalculation of Bill's strategy that he never thought would happen OR...is Bill really attempting to Torpedo his wifes run for the presidency? Bill is a bit of a vain person and could it be that he does not to see Hillary become president for whatever reasons?Does Bill like to play second fiddle to Hillary if she wins? If Hillary does win it probably means the Bill gets dropped from the limelight.

73
George
K3UD

KG4CGC
01-27-2008, 08:10 PM
The guy does not even have the RESPECT to say the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
Police state? No rights? Gun control? Yep, vote for osama and you got it.

It is said this country is not divided. It is plain and simple.
Look at the south. They are still pissed off at losing the civil war.

He is a dirt bag and I would not trust him.
JFA, pot, kettle, black......
What? Yes, the dirtbag comment.
Bush is such a stand up guy ... right?
Enjoy your little AM talk radio world.
I'm finished with you.
Please don't even bother to reply.

AC4BB
01-27-2008, 08:27 PM
Remember Jesse, also won SC in 84&88

kc2orw
01-27-2008, 08:30 PM
Jingoistic nonsense.

This probably sells with your fellow talk radio nitwits.

I think it's good that Obama doesn't buy into the "gotta wear an American flag lapel pin 24x7" mentality.

What rock did you crawl out from under?

Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA

Just a follow up to Dave's post:
How dumb can some of you be don't assume that Rush, Sean, or Bill O are giving you the facts verify stuff yourselves.
Here is a starting point but you don't have to believe it but how else would you verify a story... by using FoxNews, you have to be kidding yourself they love exploiting the story.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/11/obama_nabbed_by_the_patriotic.html

k0dxc
01-27-2008, 11:20 PM
Obama won South Carolina!

Billary: 3
Obama: 2




If obabma wins we'll go into white slavery, why are you so happy

Do you want osama bin laden running this country?




K0DXC

KU0DM
01-27-2008, 11:24 PM
Let's hear some reasoning behind that Calvin.

k0dxc
01-27-2008, 11:34 PM
Obama wrote that pledge




K0DXC

KU0DM
01-27-2008, 11:41 PM
Still waiting for reasoning Calvin.






As usual, Republican slander of which we will not get a straight answer to.

k0dxc
01-27-2008, 11:44 PM
Sorry, I have a life, couldn't get back to you on that one right away,

here goes...

He's a MUSLIM trained PERSONALLY by OSAMA BIN LADEN


what else should I say




K0DXC


for your sake, I edited it for the K0DXC to be put it

KU0DM
01-27-2008, 11:52 PM
ROTFLMAO


Thanks for the laugh Calvin, and nice try.

Still waiting for an answer though

k0dxc
01-27-2008, 11:53 PM
I gave you an answer, and you know it's true

don't laugh to hard, might puke, then you'd be choking




K0DXC

kc2orw
01-28-2008, 12:10 AM
Let's hear some reasoning behind that Calvin.
Oh please he is 13 or 16 or something along those line, don't expect too much :D

kc2orw
01-28-2008, 12:17 AM
Sorry, I have a life, couldn't get back to you on that one right away,
here goes...
He's african american, he is a MUSLIM trained PERSONALLY by OSAMA BIN LADEN
what else should I say
K0DXC
for your sake, I edited it for the K0DXC to be put it
If they home school you, you need a new current events teacher. Is Bill O'Reilly your homeroom teacher :D

AB3BK
01-28-2008, 12:18 AM
Could Obama be the third and final antichrist?

Think about it, what do the radical terrorists do best. INFILTRATE then destroy. Obama may have had a destiny since he was very young.

This will be the mother of all accomplishments for them. They made it to the Whitehouse!

You know what's after that. THE BIG RED BUTTON!


ps. warning: troll post......but, think a little. :rolleyes:;)

KU0DM
01-28-2008, 12:30 AM
You know what's after that. THE BIG RED BUTTON!


An easy button by Staples?


http://vivianpaige.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/easybutton.jpg

KE7JFA
01-28-2008, 12:37 AM
Ted Nugent for president.

http://splodetv.com/ted-nugent-has-some-words-obama-and-hillary

I did some research and found the below. Scary idea to have a militant Muslim as the U.S. President.


Probable U. S. presidential candidate,
Barack Hussein Obama was born in
Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black muslim from
Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas.

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced.
His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a
radical Muslim from Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama
attended a Muslim school in Jakarta.

He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
(Source: 1)

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.

He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's
introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was
temporary, at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after
the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's
education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced
his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
(source 2)

Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists
who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a christian when seeking major
public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the
United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out,
what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President
of the United States.

ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the
Bible, but instead, the Koran.

Source 1 : http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php

[...]
His mother's tutelage took place mostly in Indonesia, in the household of Mr. Obama's stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, a nominal Muslim who hung prayer beads over his bed but enjoyed bacon, which Islam forbids.

"My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim," said Maya Soetoro-Ng, Mr. Obama's younger half sister. But Mr. Obama attended a Catholic school and then a Muslim public school where the religious education was cursory. When he was 10, he returned to his birthplace of Hawaii to live with his grandparents and attended a preparatory school with a Christian affiliation but little religious instruction.

[...]

Source 2 http://mediamatters.org/items/200701200003


So you elect this non-american scumbag and you have elected a terrorist.

KU0DM
01-28-2008, 12:44 AM
Have I mentioned that I speak 10 different languages, and am living in the U.S. under an assumed name as I gather information on the intellect of American people to sell to other countries, the more information on those so called "smart people" I gather the more money I can make?

Right now, the price of the information is resting around 1/10th of a penny.


Let me count thy ways that is incorrect:
http://www.hugewonder.com/images/infinity-lg.jpg

Since this guy knows so much, can you site ANY sources where he gathered his information. Or is he a mind reader and can see through to the "truth" behind Obama?

AB3BK
01-28-2008, 12:57 AM
He will probably recieve the highest honor for showing the world how stupid we Americans are.

Do they have saints? No.... hmmm. Would have to be more than a martr for destroying the whole country.

K3XR
01-28-2008, 04:52 AM
The Clinton race baiting on Meet the Depressed.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18771/print

kc2orw
01-28-2008, 05:01 AM
So you elect this non-american scumbag and you have elected a terrorist.

I have the source to all your answers in the area surrounding NYC, frequently referred to as the New York Metro Region, it is available at 770 khz in AM. In your locality that may be some other frequency however in certain conditions DX may work for you :D

AC4BB
01-28-2008, 07:23 AM
Ron Paul, Doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning this or any other year anyway.

n2ize
01-28-2008, 09:05 AM
Ted Nugent for president.

http://splodetv.com/ted-nugent-has-some-words-obama-and-hillary

I did some research and found the below. Scary idea to have a militant Muslim as the U.S. President.


Probable U. S. presidential candidate,
Barack Hussein Obama was born in
Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black muslim from
Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas.

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced.
His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a
radical Muslim from Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama
attended a Muslim school in Jakarta.

He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
(Source: 1)

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.

He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's
introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was
temporary, at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after
the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's
education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced
his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
(source 2)

Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists
who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a christian when seeking major
public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the
United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out,
what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President
of the United States.

ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the
Bible, but instead, the Koran.

Source 1 : http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php

[...]
His mother's tutelage took place mostly in Indonesia, in the household of Mr. Obama's stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, a nominal Muslim who hung prayer beads over his bed but enjoyed bacon, which Islam forbids.

"My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim," said Maya Soetoro-Ng, Mr. Obama's younger half sister. But Mr. Obama attended a Catholic school and then a Muslim public school where the religious education was cursory. When he was 10, he returned to his birthplace of Hawaii to live with his grandparents and attended a preparatory school with a Christian affiliation but little religious instruction.

[...]

Source 2 http://mediamatters.org/items/200701200003


So you elect this non-american scumbag and you have elected a terrorist.

And this just in from snopes.com. Seems you bought into an urban legend chain letter. You might at least try and find legitimate sources it your gonna blow the bull


Linque (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp)

W3MIV
01-28-2008, 11:18 AM
Some of the jackasses who bray the loudest about their rights are the first to demean others through lies and the dissemination of vicious propaganda built upon intentional dissimulation.

It is a tactic of the morally weak, though its wielders are often the first to decry others as degenerate. Worse, it is intellectually dishonest, because it is so easy to check to verify if the information is accurate or nothing more than racist and xenophobic smear campaign.

2I0JVI
01-28-2008, 12:19 PM
It's quite interesting to follow the coverage of the run up to the election as an outsider reported by the various European News Agencies, preferribly the BBC :D

K3XR
01-28-2008, 01:50 PM
Are big time LIBS signing up with the vast right wing conspiracy when it comes to Mrs. Bill??

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Some_Leading_Liberals_Tur/2008/01/28/67950.html

n2nh
01-28-2008, 02:14 PM
Have I mentioned that I speak 10 different languages, and am living in the U.S. under an assumed name as I gather information on the intellect of American people to sell to other countries, the more information on those so called "smart people" I gather the more money I can make?

Right now, the price of the information is resting around 1/10th of a penny.


Let me count thy ways that is incorrect...

Since this guy knows so much, can you site ANY sources where he gathered his information. Or is he a mind reader and can see through to the "truth" behind Obama?

But, but, it's on the web! It must be right.

KU0DM
01-28-2008, 02:19 PM
True.

But the web also says GWB is smart, we ALL know that can't be right! :eek:

kg6amw
01-28-2008, 04:07 PM
Some of you who claim he’s your candidate need to ask yourself why you feel this way? Is because he makes you feel good, because he’s really positive or because he wrote a good book? These are poor reasons to bet the country on someone because he’s different. That fact is he is an unknown commodity with little experience in government, military and business. What this means is he has no executive experience and therefore we have no way of knowing how he will run the government. He speaks well and is somewhat charismatic, but that means absolutely nothing to me and should mean nothing to you if you understand government. Because he is inexperienced and unknown, would you want someone in White House influencing national security, the tax structure and government spending? The other candidates with the exception of John Edwards have known track records and the ability to field a decent executive team to undertake the rigors of running government including writing laws, developing budgets, dealing with emergencies. Obama has no business being in the White House at this point in time. He needs to do something more than US Senator work and writing a book that makes you feel special. Go be a mayor of a large city or governor of a state and let's see how you deal with the day to day problems of budgets, laws, riots and rolling power blackouts. Then we'll know if you can get something done.

KU0DM
01-28-2008, 04:14 PM
I'm not supporting Obama because of his race or because he makes me feel good.

I'm supporting Obama because I like his ideas, I think has done well and will continue to do well, and has the potential to continue doing well in the Whitehouse.

I didn't look at the candidates and randomly select one, I picked Obama because I like his ideas, I like his thinking, I like where he is ready to take the country.

I'm not supporting him just because he is a Democrat, I'm supporting him because he is ready to lead the country in the new direction, and I support that direction he wants to lead us.

Now if any of the candidates had the EXACT same ideas, I would support them too.

But Obama's policies, ideas, and plans for the country appeal to me.

Hillary's do not, Edwards about 50/50. And the only Republican candidate(s) I remotely like is Ron Paul (because he want's out of Iraq) and John McCain because he is the more moderate conservative running.

kc2orw
01-28-2008, 04:53 PM
Some of you who claim he’s your candidate need to ask yourself why you feel this way? Is because he makes you feel good, because he’s really positive or because he wrote a good book?
I will give you a simple answer it is because all the rest suk there is no feel good aspect in my sentiment. I will be damned if I vote for an anarchist or the shills of corporate greed that currently monopolizes this society.
Those that support those are just concerned with maintaining their status quo, they are afraid they won't remain top dogs if the playing field ends up more level.

W3MIV
01-28-2008, 05:10 PM
Obama has no business being in the White House at this point in time. He needs to do something more than US Senator work and writing a book that makes you feel special.

Hillary has done something "more than US senator?" Oh, yes, that's right, she was the "housewife" in the White House during Bill's eight-year tour of chasing the bimbos.

By your exotic analytical skills, we could have nominated Nancy Reagan, Pat Nixon or Betty Ford to the Oval Office and profited mightily thereby.

Interestingly enough, Caroline Kennedy just op-edded some of my thoughts in the NYT. She has decided to support Obama because, as she comments, he has something reminiscent of her father. I noted that same sense on one of these threads a bit back. Now, it would seem, her drunken uncle will also endorse Obama; I can deal with that despite the fact that I loathe Tedward intensely.

Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton represent a regression to failed policies and outworn political concepts. Obama is no less untested now than JFK was in 1960. Many on the left who now lionize JFK have little real knowledge of the man, and they worship a media-built image that misses the mark widely.

One chooses a presidential candidate from those who are running, and who have a viable chance at winning the office and fulfilling whatever mandate they may carry. Edwards cannot win. Ron Paul is laughable. Giuliani, Huckabee and other Republican debris will be swept from the slope like mud into the gutter. It will be either McCain or Romney versus either Obama or Clinton.

Of the two Democrats, Obama is the clear choice with a hope for change. Hillary is a known factor versus Obama being a semi-known, at best. Stale versus fresh. Or, if you prefer: failed versus untested.

I shall go with untested Obama over the known, failed duet of hacks.

K7JEM
01-28-2008, 05:23 PM
Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton represent a regression to failed policies and outworn political concepts. Obama is no less untested now than JFK was in 1960. Many on the left who now lionize JFK have little real knowledge of the man, and they worship a media-built image that misses the mark widely.

One chooses a presidential candidate from those who are running, and who have a viable chance at winning the office and fulfilling whatever mandate they may carry. Edwards cannot win. Ron Paul is laughable. Giuliani, Huckabee and other Republican debris will be swept from the slope like mud into the gutter. It will be either McCain or Romney versus either Obama or Clinton.

Of the two Democrats, Obama is the clear choice with a hope for change. Hillary is a known factor versus Obama being a semi-known, at best. Stale versus fresh. Or, if you prefer: failed versus untested.



Very well put. While I will probably vote for the republican candidate in November, I might well vote for Obama, if he is the nominee.

In no case would I vote for Hillary. Her legacy is failed policy, and questionable tactics and ethics. Why do we need more of this? Even an untested, unproven candidate might be a better choice.

In this case, it is.

Joe

n2ize
01-28-2008, 05:30 PM
I love the was so many conservatives endorse Obama and denounce Hillary as the horror of all horrors. While Hillary represents communism, socialism, evil, failure, mistery, etc. Obama represents truth, hope, a better future.

Only one catch. Most of them ain't gonna vote for him if he's nominated.

N3ATS
01-28-2008, 05:48 PM
I love the was so many conservatives endorse Obama and denounce Hillary as the horror of all horrors. While Hillary represents communism, socialism, evil, failure, mistery, etc. Obama represents truth, hope, a better future.



Obama represents an easier win for the Republicans, that's why.

K3XR
01-28-2008, 07:17 PM
Rush: From Bull Connor to Bull Clinton....

http://newsbusters.org/node/18782/print


"Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have."

kc2orw
01-28-2008, 07:22 PM
Rush: From Bull Connor to Bull Clinton....

http://newsbusters.org/node/18782/print


"Having more fun than a human being should be allowed to have."
Can we say duh duh duh duh dittohead, it's off now here but I caught the daily propaganda memes.

KU0DM
01-28-2008, 07:29 PM
As I think about it, having Clinton in office might not be ALL bad...

Look at how well she has been bringing both Democrats and Republicans together, both dislike her! :D

K7JEM
01-28-2008, 08:05 PM
Obama represents an easier win for the Republicans, that's why.

I don't think that is true. I know many conservatives, myself included, who could possibly support Obama.

Obama would draw a certain percentage of the usual Republican voters, something that Hillary can not do.

As I see it, if Obama is nominated, he will likely beat any republican nominee (unless something new is revealed about him).

Hillary will have a hard time against either McCain or Romney. Hillary is a polarizing personality. People from both parties dislike her.

Obama has less to dislike, is relatively new, represents change and youth, and is generally more tolerable to conservatives.

If Obama can survive the Clinton muck machine, he will likely be nominated and win in November.

Joe

n2ize
01-28-2008, 08:26 PM
As I think about it, having Clinton in office might not be ALL bad...

Look at how well she has been bringing both Democrats and Republicans together, both dislike her! :D

Which I see as the result of a PR campaign more so than a simple case of like or dislike.

As a person/politician Hillary is no more corrupt or guilty of lying than any of her power hungry competitors. It's doubtfull she could be any worst than the present administration. She has mustered the same corporate support as most mainstream political candidates meaning she has the stamp of approval of the corporate crowd. There is nothing to like/dislike about her and more/less than any of the other prime time players. She is certainly no Kuchinich, Paul, Nader, etc. who talk of invoking real change. These latter players are unpopular as they don't get the nod of approval from the underlying corporate power structure that guides the political landscape of much of America and much of the world.

KE7JFA
01-28-2008, 08:30 PM
Now I see another piece of crap backing osama.
Ted "I can buy my way out of anything" Kennedy.
The kennedy family is a bunch of drugged and drunken buffoons.
A bunch of governmental parasites is what they are.

KU0DM
01-28-2008, 08:40 PM
The kennedy family is a bunch of drugged and drunken buffoons.


You, uh, seem to know the Kennedy family pretty well.

Why do you think that?

Do you think you could've handled the Cuban Missile Crisis better?

Please explain.

kg6amw
01-28-2008, 09:15 PM
Handled the missile crisis? -- is there a gas leak in here? The term "group think" was a key component of the Cuban Bay of Pigs fiasco. The Cuban missile crisis shouldn’t ever have occurred if Kennedy had just stood up to the Russian Premier early on -- forcefully. Both screw ups are now a classic government study cases in "how to not handle a crisis" and “communicating with force and clarity”. As I said before, Obama does not have the experience to lead and he will get us into bad situations by coming off as inexperienced nice guy who speaks well – sort like John Kennedy did.

ad4mg
01-28-2008, 09:21 PM
Now I see another piece of crap backing osama.
Ted "I can buy my way out of anything" Kennedy.
The kennedy family is a bunch of drugged and drunken buffoons.
A bunch of governmental parasites is what they are.

You're overdosing on the hate, comrade. Step away from the computer, go outside, and take a walk. Your hatred is consuming your soul.

Mike Tyson once told one of his opponents he was going to eat his children. Your posts bring back to memory the look on Tyson's face when he uttered that statement.

KE7JFA
01-28-2008, 09:45 PM
You're overdosing on the hate, comrade. Step away from the computer, go outside, and take a walk. Your hatred is consuming your soul.

Mike Tyson once told one of his opponents he was going to eat his children. Your posts bring back to memory the look on Tyson's face when he uttered that statement.


Well he did chomp a bit of ear!
:)

KU0DM
01-28-2008, 10:05 PM
ROTFL...who's Mike Tyson?

I honestly want to know.

kc2orw
01-28-2008, 10:20 PM
ROTFL...who's Mike Tyson?

I honestly want to know.
Your really not kidding famous boxer who bit part of an opponents ear off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_tyson

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Mike_Tyson.jpg

KU0DM
01-28-2008, 10:27 PM
ah...one to many blows to the head I assume...read that bio. on him...little crazy
:p

kc2orw
01-28-2008, 10:31 PM
ah...one to many blows to the head I assume...read that bio. on him...little crazy
:p
Crazy yeah that could very well be but I am not a doctor so I won't diagnose him. Course I would rather not be around someone like him, trouble seems to follow him wherever he goes.

K3XR
01-28-2008, 11:17 PM
Rev. Al (no so) SHARPton to Bull Clinton, SHUT UP.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/28/sharpton-to-billy-jeff-stop-talking/?print=1

kc2orw
01-28-2008, 11:36 PM
Rev. Al (no so) SHARPton to Bull Clinton, SHUT UP.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/28/sharpton-to-billy-jeff-stop-talking/?print=1
Yes yes most of us already heard that one I think he is right. But in a way I hope Bill keeps it up and loses it for Hillary paving the way for Obama.
I appreciate how the Medium Wavers keep helping Obama out, they may be wrong to help him out as it might just backfire on them. The last laugh may very well be on them...

ad4mg
01-28-2008, 11:42 PM
Rev. Al (no so) SHARPton to Bull Clinton, SHUT UP.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/28/sharpton-to-billy-jeff-stop-talking/?print=1

Obama, Dan, Obama. If you're going to poo in every thread indiscriminately, at least put some effort into hitting the right one every now and then.

If you need help keeping track of which is which, just ask. There is no shame in asking.

This thread is about Obama winning in SC. Work on that one for a while, then move on to another thread, but try to poo in just one at a time. You seem to be confusing yourself.

Obama, Dan ... Obama.
Title of THIS Thread: Obama+South Carolina=WIN!!!

k0dxc
01-29-2008, 12:44 AM
Oh please he is 13 or 16 or something along those line, don't expect too much :D



Yes, but so is Duncan

K3XR
01-29-2008, 02:09 AM
I'll take two (Clinton race) cards, please.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/01/clintons_play_the_race_card_ag.html

n2ize
01-29-2008, 02:12 AM
Rev. Al (no so) SHARPton to Bull Clinton, SHUT UP.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/28/sharpton-to-billy-jeff-stop-talking/?print=1

More junk ? No shortage of junk to peddle, eh ?

n2ize
01-29-2008, 02:14 AM
I'll take two (Clinton race) cards, please.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/01/clintons_play_the_race_card_ag.html

Phheeww !! Gag !! Ugh !! What a STINKER !

KU0DM
01-29-2008, 02:16 AM
Danny or Clinton? :p;)

K3XR
01-29-2008, 02:23 PM
"Never interfere when your oponents are destroying themselves."

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12650

n2ize
01-29-2008, 03:41 PM
Danny or Clinton? :p;)

The invokation of the Americanstinker :D

K3XR
01-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Don't bend over Barry.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18808/print

kc2orw
01-29-2008, 05:03 PM
Don't bend over Barry.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18808/print
Linkie winkie plays with his tinkie again :D

K3XR
01-30-2008, 01:34 AM
It's taken brain challenged LIBS all this time to figure out the Clintons.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/29/new-hampshire-paper-hillarys-a-dirty-liar-who-played-us-all-for-chumps/?print=1

k9kxq
01-30-2008, 10:18 PM
It's taken brain challenged LIBS all this time to figure out the Clintons.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/29/new-hampshire-paper-hillarys-a-dirty-liar-who-played-us-all-for-chumps/?print=1

It takes no brains at all from a shrub lover to blow hot air... I'm so grateful that I won't ever hear another State of the Union speech from the shrub, next great speech will come from Hilary Clinton at her inauguration...

kxq

KA8DKT
01-31-2008, 02:18 AM
Ted Nugent for president.

http://splodetv.com/ted-nugent-has-some-words-obama-and-hillary

I did some research and found the below. Scary idea to have a militant Muslim as the U.S. President.


Probable U. S. presidential candidate,
Barack Hussein Obama was born in
Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black muslim from
Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white atheist from Wichita, Kansas.

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii.

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced.
His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a
radical Muslim from Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama
attended a Muslim school in Jakarta.

He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
(Source: 1)

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.

He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's
introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was
temporary, at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after
the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's
education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced
his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.
(source 2)

Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists
who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

Since it is politically expedient to be a christian when seeking major
public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the
United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out,
what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President
of the United States.

ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the
Bible, but instead, the Koran.

Source 1 : http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php

[...]
His mother's tutelage took place mostly in Indonesia, in the household of Mr. Obama's stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, a nominal Muslim who hung prayer beads over his bed but enjoyed bacon, which Islam forbids.

"My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim," said Maya Soetoro-Ng, Mr. Obama's younger half sister. But Mr. Obama attended a Catholic school and then a Muslim public school where the religious education was cursory. When he was 10, he returned to his birthplace of Hawaii to live with his grandparents and attended a preparatory school with a Christian affiliation but little religious instruction.

[...]

Source 2 http://mediamatters.org/items/200701200003


So you elect this non-american scumbag and you have elected a terrorist.

You didn't do very much research.

I am having trouble believing this idiocy is still making the rounds, even more trouble believing anyone would believe it without checking it out first. It sounds just like it came from the pen of Karl Rove, or the "Swift Boat Veterans".

My father was a Protestant. Does that make me a Protestant?

I am an atheist. What book would I use to be sworn into a public office?

And this totally unfounded rumor about being sworn into office using the Koran is completely false.

See:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_name_of_the_congressman_who_used_the_K oran_to_be_sworn_in

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/238/

And for those who claim that this ridiculous assertion is backed by Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp and
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/ellison.asp

Of course, you all know that in the House swearing in ceremony, no books are used at all, no one swears in on a Bible, the Koran, or "The Stars My Destination". Instead all the newly elected Representatives raise their right hands and swear in unison to uphold the Constitution.

Obama used a family Bible for his ceremony of being sworn in to the Illinios State Senate and the U.S. Senate.

I would have thought that K3XR would be the only one who believed the above rumor, after all, it was reported on the Fox News Network so it just must be true in spite of the facts.

-gary

KA8DKT
01-31-2008, 02:30 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/zamphir/obamadis.jpg

A real stand up guy...
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE....TO THE CORPORATE DOMINATION OF AMERICA.....AND TO THE STOCK MARKET.....AS PROFITS IS ALL THAT MATTERS......ONE GOAL....STEAL ALL....DIVIDE AND CONQUER....WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR SOME..............................

Photoshop?

-gary

KA8DKT
01-31-2008, 02:39 AM
Obama represents an easier win for the Republicans, that's why.

Yup. Easier to smear, because he is Black and they can continue to claim that he is Islamic.

The Republican NeoCon Machine will do their utmost to swiftboat Obama on these points among others. Unfortunately some 30% of the populace is gullible enough to buy the lie.

-gary

K3XR
02-01-2008, 12:46 AM
Femi-Nazi for Barry.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/31/video-former-now-leader-commits-super-double-secret-ultimate-betrayal-and-switches-from-hillary-to-obama/?print=1

kc2orw
02-01-2008, 12:52 AM
So what, maybe they like handsome black men and not old women :D

I went to the main page man is that some uber nutjob website makes Fox New look positively middle of the road ROTFLMAO

KA8DKT
02-01-2008, 01:15 AM
ROTFL...who's Mike Tyson?

I honestly want to know.

He's a professional boxer who is so tough that he can beat up on women. Big man! (More like big Jerk.)

-gary

K3XR
02-03-2008, 01:53 PM
Race baiter, Billy Jeff (BJ), MAKING up is hard to do...

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/bill-clinton-prepares-a-black-apology-tour