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k8cpa
01-26-2008, 06:45 PM
Yes, folks, I do follow the Political Scene.

A great place to look and see what's happening, What the main stream media is reporting and more importantly, what Bloggers are saying, is at memeorandum.com (http://www.memeorandum.com/)

There's also Blogrunner (http://www.blogrunner.com/snapshot/topics/politics/), which is owned by the New York Times.

In the 21 century, Blogs are the new Media, it's the voice of the American people. You will find Far lefty sissy Liberals and Far Right Wing, Flag waving, Conservatives, and everything between the two.

I don't own either of these sites, by the way....

they're great sites, and I suggest you all take a look.

n2nh
01-26-2008, 07:01 PM
Great links. Thanks. I'm already looking them up. It's good to see viewpoints that aren't just from one perspective or one region.

k8cpa
01-27-2008, 07:48 AM
Great links. Thanks. I'm already looking them up. It's good to see viewpoints that aren't just from one perspective or one region.

Thanks. :)

K3XR
01-27-2008, 02:41 PM
Not the only place.

http://www.politico.com/

k8cpa
01-27-2008, 05:33 PM
Not the only place.

http://www.politico.com/

Yep, that's also a great site as well. :D

kg6amw
01-28-2008, 03:06 PM
Among many that are fairly good, Real Clear Politics is the best. See http://www.realclearpolitics.com/index.html

K3XR
01-31-2008, 02:03 AM
Places not to look for political news.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/shocker-media-coverage-favors-democrats/print/

n2nh
01-31-2008, 06:23 AM
Not the only place.

http://www.politico.com/

A frown is just a smile turned upside down http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9536/frownrs4.gif

N2RJ
01-31-2008, 02:53 PM
Blogs are indeed the new media.

Heck, even Fox News has a blog:

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com

W3MIV
01-31-2008, 02:55 PM
Blogs are opinion, not news in the strict sense of factual reporting.

A few minutes devoted to these threads should show the difference between the two.

;)

N2RJ
01-31-2008, 03:17 PM
Blogs are opinion, not news in the strict sense of factual reporting.

A few minutes devoted to these threads should show the difference between the two.

;)

I disagree, Albert.

It's called "citizen journalism" and is a huge buzzword in my industry.

In fact, the Fox News youdecide08 blog, while NOT run by an individual, is actually their election news portal. It's simply presented in a blog format to allow the viewers of the site to post their opinions (that part is opinion...)

It's a blog, running blogging software (wordpress) but has news articles written and published by the FNC newsroom.

kc2orw
01-31-2008, 03:34 PM
Well badly done news is badly done news doesn't matter if it is blogger or cable. But cable has a bit of an advantage they are referred to as reporters. Investigative reporters can assist in verifying a story. But cable can get it just as wrong as most bloggers can but bloggers don't have all that much of a reputation to protect :D

N2RJ
01-31-2008, 03:58 PM
Well badly done news is badly done news doesn't matter if it is blogger or cable. But cable has a bit of an advantage they are referred to as reporters. Investigative reporters can assist in verifying a story. But cable can get it just as wrong as most bloggers can but bloggers don't have all that much of a reputation to protect :D

Agree 100%

And if Albert thinks that news organizations don't inject opinion or "slant" into their news... He obviously has no clue about the news business.

W3MIV
01-31-2008, 04:48 PM
Agree 100%

And if Albert thinks that news organizations don't inject opinion or "slant" into their news... He obviously has no clue about the news business.

How did you manage to divine that? What is obvious is that YOU have no clue about what I have or have not done over a career spanning more than forty-five years.

You have been hanging around the opinion threads of QRZ too long and have been infected by ASSumption, which is letting one particular part of your anatomy handle your brain for you.

Blogs that purport to be news are yet blogs, which is purely opinion. News that contains opinion is an unavoidable reality of the business of journalism, which is information gathered, sifted and arranged by one human for the consumption by other humans. That it will become tainted by opinion is inevitable and unavoidable. What small minds tend ever to overlook is their own bias, which is the measure of "objectivity" that is always applied.

The measure of a fair news organ is a mixture of viewpoints, whether in the editorials or the socalled news columns. If you haven't learned these things, go back to some school and try again. But don't presume to know what others think.

N2RJ
01-31-2008, 05:04 PM
How did you manage to divine that? What is obvious is that YOU have no clue about what I have or have not done over a career spanning more than forty-five years.

Did I strike a nerve here?

Please do tell us what you did in your illustrious career.

I work in the news business. I live, eat, sleep and breathe it.

New media, including blogs, is hot and growing. This is not me saying it. This is our marketing and ad sales department saying it. These are the people I talk to when I have to plan infrastructure and capacity upgrades to handle new demand. Even our CEO is very interested in new digital media because it affects the bottom line and is spending a lot of time and money developing it.

You have been hanging around the opinion threads of QRZ too long and have been infected by ASSumption, which is letting one particular part of your anatomy handle your brain for you.

Look in the mirror for one part of the word, assume Albert.

As I've said - I work in the bloody industry. I know the trends, I have to listen to the same crap about digital media this and that every friggin' day.

YOU on the other hand, are an old fart pontificating knowledge on a message board that you have no clue about. In other words, talking out of your rear end.

Blogs that purport to be news are yet blogs, which is purely opinion.

Again, wrong.

A blog is simply a format, in which news articles or opinion pieces are presented for public consumption.

It is the same as television or newspapers, in which there are news sections or opinion sections (or shows in the case of television.)

By the way, the writers don't generally inject a slant. They are directed by editorial and their respective producers, who provide direction for their productions. Talk to some of them (like I do, daily) and you'll wonder if they had little elves write their articles for them.

W3MIV
01-31-2008, 06:21 PM
Sure, Ryan. I can tell from your posts you are a real Walter Cronkite.

N2RJ
01-31-2008, 06:43 PM
Sure, Ryan. I can tell from your posts you are a real Walter Cronkite.

Bwhahahaha.

One liner, Albert? Is that what I've reduced you to?

I said I work in the industry. I didn't say I was an anchorman or a reporter.

W3MIV
01-31-2008, 06:49 PM
I didn't say I was an anchorman or a reporter.

Trust me. I knew that.

kc2orw
01-31-2008, 07:08 PM
Trust me. I knew that.
How would you know that, I seen a recent picture of him and his wife and he could pass as TV anchorman or a TV reporter. :)

PS: No I won't post the link RJ only you can do that. :D

N2RJ
01-31-2008, 07:22 PM
Trust me. I knew that.

You know everything, don't you, Albert?

kc2orw
02-04-2008, 04:51 PM
Looks worthwhile even has a blog section.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

kc2orw
02-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Interesting Economics discussion left leaning no doubt but it seeks to refute the right leaning. Certainly some interesting conservative memes are discussed, very short.
http://adbusters.org/the_magazine/75/Economic_Indoctrination.html


Mankiw knows that the vast majority of his students are not going to become economics majors. He is not interested in training economists – his textbook is too simplistic to prepare a student for advanced study in economics. As he explicitly tells his teaching fellows, Mankiw’s interest is in shaping the minds of thousands of citizens and future leaders around the world. Mankiw’s world is one where “there is no such thing as a society.” Rather, the world is made up of isolated individuals. But it is a world where fairness prevails: everybody gets what they deserve. It is also a world where, thanks to the magic effect of markets, private enterprise and property rights, standards of living rise constantly. It’s a beautiful world . . . if only it existed.


Other Interesting Terms and Definitions:
Homo Economicus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_economicus
Authority and Satisficing:
http://semanticstudios.com/publications/semantics/000057.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisficing

kc2orw
02-04-2008, 09:21 PM
Hmm Persuasion Technology sounds a bit ominous bound to elicit a reaction fro those suffering from apophenia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia) :D

http://captology.stanford.edu/

k8cpa
03-02-2008, 04:38 AM
Blogs are indeed the new media.

Heck, even Fox News has a blog:


You mean, Faux Noise, the Home of Bill Orally?

The man who has been name Keith Olbermann's Worst Person in the World, a bazillion times?

k8cpa
03-02-2008, 04:40 AM
Case in point.

Click here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23398873#23398873)

W3MIV
03-02-2008, 12:25 PM
You mean, Faux Noise, the Home of Bill Orally?

The man who has been name Keith Olbermann's Worst Person in the World, a bazillion times?

You utterly destroy any objective standing you may have held once you promote anything by Olbermann as touting anything of merit or importance. He is no less a blowhard than is O'Reilly; indeed, maybe even more so. The only difference is the direction of his wind.