The End

[n2nh]

...for Ron Paul? A lesser candidate would've seen the handwriting on the wall and dropped out by now. As the RP campaign teeters out of NH it appears that the voters are speaking to the message.

If this campaign were an animal, wouldn't it be humane to put it out of its misery? So when will it end?

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Jan. 09 2008,12:41)]If this campaign were an animal, wouldn't it be humane to put it out of its misery? So when will it end?
When Hillary is sworn in?

[w3bny]

I hope he stays... he can be the Republican Party's Ralph Nader

[ko0m]

Quote[/b] (w3bny @ Jan. 09 2008,14:44)]I hope he stays... he can be the Republican Party's Ralph Nader
Yup, you got that one right, he's gonna hang around and splinter the conservative vote. #

The best that the Republican party could hope for is the nomination of Obama by the Dems, they could beat him.

[W3MIV]

Lincoln's 'president grub' is gnawing his insides. Like 'Ol' Yeller,' there is only one outcome.

Yet, his supporters are too stupid in many cases, or too wedded to behind-the-woodwork political philosophies, to simply drop him, and his ego has become swollen by the effects of the 'grub.' Like the 'old soldier,' he will just fade away. Slowly. Painfully. Laughably.

An effigy of all the whackoes, conspiracy theorists, white-supremicists, militia thumpers and other maladjusted 'patriots,' he will continue to 'twist slowly in the wind' until the money taps dry up to the point where all his campaign will have left is the internet and its darker political pathologies.

Then he will be the subject of a few 'whatever-happened-to-Ron-Paul' articles in various media desperate for filler.

[N2RJ]

Ron Paul isn't going anywhere at least until Super Duper Tuesday.

I don't think anyone really expects him to win. They, like me, are voting for him because they want to make a statement.

Personally, I am voting for him because I am fed up of the war, fed up of the status quo, fed up of business as usual, fed up of nannyism, fed up of the decline of the middle class, fed up of higher taxation, among other things, and more importantly, fed up of big business funding politics.

One of Ron Paul's biggest strengths is that he has a strong grassroots movement. While he won't win, he certainly showed that it is possible for the average Joe/Jane to get a candidate noticed without money from the corporate fat cats.

And believe me, Ron Paul was noticed by a lot of people, including the "mainstream" candidates who were funded by big business and propped up by the mass media.

I'm not a Ronette, Paulista, or whatever, but I admire the man for having the chutzpah to fight business as usual. I don't agree with a few things, such as his "solution" to the healthcare problems in this country, but I like that he wants to put people first.

BTW, if anyone else but Hillary wins the Dem nod, I am voting D.

[KB1KIX]

I honestly don't think Hill is as capable of winning.

Look how her "crying" this weekend backlashed - many said it just made look like she was pandering to the women voters (not like she hasn't been trying that for quite a bit so far).

Many dems just don't liker her attitude (which surprised me, I thought all dems regarded the Clintons in the same manner as Jim Jones!).

Hey, they have something in common - lots of Kool-Aid.

Jonathan

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Jan. 09 2008,15:31)]Ron Paul isn't going anywhere at least until Super Duper Tuesday.

I don't think anyone really expects him to win. #They, like me, are voting for him because they want to make a statement.

Personally, I am voting for him because I am fed up of the war, fed up of the status quo, fed up of business as usual, fed up of nannyism, fed up of the decline of the middle class, fed up of higher taxation, among other things, and more importantly, fed up of big business funding politics.

One of Ron Paul's biggest strengths is that he has a strong grassroots movement. #While he won't win, he certainly showed that it is possible for the average Joe/Jane to get a candidate noticed without money from the corporate fat cats.

And believe me, Ron Paul was noticed by a lot of people, including the "mainstream" candidates who were funded by big business and propped up by the mass media.

I'm not a Ronette, Paulista, or whatever, but I admire the man for having the chutzpah to fight business as usual. #I don't agree with a few things, such as his "solution" to the healthcare problems in this country, but I like that he wants to put people first.

BTW, if anyone else but Hillary wins the Dem nod, I am voting D.
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Personally, I am voting for him because I am fed up of the war, fed up of the status quo, fed up of business as usual, fed up of nannyism, fed up of the decline of the middle class,


And if you are fed up with the decline of the middle class Paul is definately not your man. His blind sense of deregulation and "smaller government" threatens to eliminate the very same regulatory provisions that have enabled the middle class to grow and prosper over the last 50+ years. You can't simply deregulate everything to produce this so called "deregulated free market" and expect that it is going to serve the middle class. It didn't work in the past and it won't work today. If Paul were to get elected and accomplish (with extreme difficulty) the types of reforms he promotes rest assured, you'll see increased shrinkage of the middle class.

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One of Ron Paul's biggest strengths is that he has a strong grassroots movement. #While he won't win, he certainly showed that it is possible for the average Joe/Jane to get a candidate noticed without money from the corporate fat cats.


Yes indeed he did. The middle class is burdended by things like higher taxes, excessive laws that intrude into our private lives, high health costs and bureaucracy, etc. And Ron Paul does make sense of some of these issues. However, he radically departs logic and excommunicates people like myself when runs around willy nilly talking about cutting government regulatory agencies, restoring the free market, stopping taxes, lowering health costs, etc. yet showing no viable and logical plan. Sure, lots of people would like to see income taxes ended but, has he detailed a sensible plan ? He talks about getting rid of government burocracy and eliminationg regulatory agencies but has yet to show how the middle class is going to be protected from exploitative corporate practices when such agencies and enforcements are no longer in place. These are important questions that concern people like myself and many others. Unfortunately Paul has alienated us and has lost our support. Otherwise I might have supported him as well.

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I'm not a Ronette, Paulista, or whatever, but I admire the man for having the chutzpah to fight business as usual. #I don't agree with a few things, such as his "solution" to the healthcare problems in this country, but I like that he wants to put people first.


Actually if you examine his strategies carefully they are superficial and not presented with any detail as to support their viability. In essence his strategies put corporate interests ahead of the individual despite the fact that he portrays the opposite.

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BTW, if anyone else but Hillary wins the Dem nod, I am voting D.


It's beginning to look more and more like this next upcoming election will be an "out of the hat" selection process for me. Particularly since I don;t vote on candidates being the evil of two lessers. Most likely it will boil down to a choice between Hillary and Mccain. I would probably prefer Hillary to win under such circumstances. As much as so many people seem to hate her she couldn't be worst than what we have now. At best she'll be like Bill. Atleast during the Bill years things were better than they are now. The present administration has created an all new time low.

[W3MIV]

"burdended?"

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[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Jan. 09 2008,15:16)]"burdended?"

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Haven't you ever felt over burdenated?

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[kq9j]

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Jan. 09 2008,17:47)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Jan. 09 2008,15:16)]"burdended?"

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Haven't you ever felt over burdenated?

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[K5FH]

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Jan. 09 2008,16:13)]And if you are fed up with the decline of the middle class Paul is definately not your man. His blind sense of deregulation and "smaller government" threatens to eliminate the very same regulatory provisions #that have enabled the middle class to grow and prosper #over the last 50+ years.
But, a paragraph later, we read:

Quote[/b] ]The middle class is burdended by things like higher taxes, excessive laws that intrude into our private lives, high health costs and bureaucracy, etc.

If these things we're "burdended" by are "the very same regulatory provisions that have enabled the middle class to grow and prosper over the last 50+ years," then what are you complaining about?

[W3MIV]

Quote[/b] (kq9j @ Jan. 09 2008,21:01)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Jan. 09 2008,17:47)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Jan. 09 2008,15:16)]"burdended?"

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Haven't you ever felt over burdenated?

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So Bill Richardson believes. When will the illustrious midget awaken to the same reality?

[KG4JYD]

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Jan. 09 2008,12:41)]As the RP campaign teeters out of NH it appears that the voters are speaking to the message.
NH and IA are not indicative of the winner. If so we could've had President Robertson, or President Pat Buchanan, or President Bob Dole.

[KG4JYD]

Quote[/b] (ko0m @ Jan. 09 2008,12:56)]Yup, you got that one right, he's gonna hang around and splinter the conservative vote.
The Republican party is doing that on their own.

[KG4JYD]

Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Jan. 09 2008,15:40)]Look how her "crying" this weekend backlashed
Yeah - it won her New Hampshire.

[n2nh]

Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Jan. 09 2008,23:45)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Jan. 09 2008,12:41)]As the RP campaign teeters out of NH it appears that the voters are speaking to the message.
NH and IA are not indicative of the winner. If so we could've had President Robertson, or President Pat Buchanan, or President Bob Dole.
True. But it is more than apparent who is losing.

[w1zp]

There are people that just love losing....he must be one of those.

[KG4JYD]

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Jan. 10 2008,01:15)]Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Jan. 09 2008,23:45)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Jan. 09 2008,12:41)]As the RP campaign teeters out of NH it appears that the voters are speaking to the message.
NH and IA are not indicative of the winner. If so we could've had President Robertson, or President Pat Buchanan, or President Bob Dole.
True. But it is more than apparent who is losing.
Such as Fred and Rudy