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kc2orw
12-30-2007, 06:03 PM
End of story...
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Ron will probably get clobbered in Iowa and New Hampshire -- and clobbered especially bad if his campaign continues with some of the poor advertisements they are airing, but you never know for sure until it is over.
An acquaintance of mine said this video is why he contributed to Ron Paul's campaign on Dec 16. I've never seen it before, but it struck some sort of chord in people who are tired of being told what to do by the main stream media.
American Underdog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awCKV4Lpx9c)
n2ize
12-30-2007, 10:12 PM
Ron Paul's weak point is that he doesn'thave a viable plan or a realistic vision
KG4JYD
12-30-2007, 10:15 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Dec. 30 2007,15:12)]Ron Paul's weak point is that he doesn'thave a viable plan or a realistic vision
I think that following the Constitution is a very viable plan.
What are you all going to cry about when it is over?
If Ron Paul gets beat (and he probably will) you will have to find something else to get all worked up over and cry in your beer.
Always found it funny that you guys say Ron Paul has no chance, yet you spend an awful amount of energy talking trash about him.
Guess folks need to get their panties in a wad in order to feel important.
I vote for bashing the flat earth society after the primaries.
kc2orw
12-30-2007, 11:22 PM
Quote[/b] (al2n @ Dec. 30 2007,19:10)]What are you all going to cry about when it is over?
If Ron Paul gets beat (and he probably will) you will have to find something else to get all worked up over and cry in your beer.
Always found it funny that you guys say Ron Paul has no chance, yet you spend an awful amount of energy talking trash about him.
Guess folks need to get their panties in a wad in order to feel important.
I vote for bashing the flat earth society after the primaries.
I would say the only reason the Paulites are getting guff is because of the conspiracy theory nature of the pro Paully posters typical spam topic http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Don't like the retaliation then don't post rubbish for example "Fox News banned Paul" when they didn't. Personally I don't even know if Ron Paul believes himself or not.
AE6IP
12-31-2007, 01:21 AM
Quote[/b] (al2n @ Dec. 30 2007,16:10)]I vote for bashing the flat earth society after the primaries.
I vote for bashing the primaries.
Nobody has yet explained to me why we the voters are paying for the parties' process for selecting their candidates for the general election.
Shouldn't the dems foot the bill for their primaries, and the reps likewise?
KG4JYD
12-31-2007, 03:28 AM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Dec. 30 2007,18:21)]Nobody has yet explained to me why we the voters are paying for the parties' process for selecting their candidates for the general election.
Shouldn't the dems foot the bill for their primaries, and the reps likewise?
Not a bad idea.
When the State runs elections they keep out all other 3rd parties when possible.
Ballot access is a very serious problem due to this. I think each party should simply choose their own candidates on their own time with their own money, and the threshold should be VERY low to get ballot access in every state.
Rue Paul making his "move" in Iowa, up to an astounding 7% in the Zogby Poll.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls....07.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_republican_caucus-207.html)
W3MIV
12-31-2007, 02:38 PM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Dec. 30 2007,21:21)]Quote[/b] (al2n @ Dec. 30 2007,16:10)]I vote for bashing the flat earth society after the primaries.
I vote for bashing the primaries.
Nobody has yet explained to me why we the voters are paying for the parties' process for selecting their candidates for the general election.
Shouldn't the dems foot the bill for their primaries, and the reps likewise?
I agree, Martin, but the Congress sets the rules, and they are setting them for themselves.
I believe the entire campaign season should be revised.
I would mandate the party conventions be held in September, that the season for active campaigning start no more than six weeks before the conventions, and that all primaries should be held in the same week throughout the nation a week or so ahead of the conventions.
I would further do away with all this nonsense about campaign funding, setting no limits on what any individual or group could contribute to either a candidate or a party -- but that ALL contributions must be made public in clear and detailed disclosures as soon as the money is received. I hasten to add that I would institute real and harsh penalties for failure to disclose with the mandated time. That will give the press the incentive to ride herd on the drive to the nomination and election.
Of course, you will never see any such program. Too much sunlight burns these bozos like vampires at dawn.
W3MIV
12-31-2007, 02:49 PM
Quote[/b] (al2i @ Dec. 30 2007,17:39)]Ron will probably get clobbered in Iowa and New Hampshire -- and clobbered especially bad if his campaign continues with some of the poor advertisements they are airing...
I am amused at the extent of your capacity for self-deception and simple denial.
What verifiable proof can you offer that these "poor" advertisements do NOT actually represent the views of your hero?
The short answer is that you cannot. You accept all of this libertarian pablum with a gush of blind faith, much like a simpleton showing up to gaze in gape-mouthed stupefaction at the mass of candles ablaze on a mediaeval altar.
The man's entire political career points to a grand ability to move the pea fast enough that the Texas yokels in his district scratch their scalps (and other unmentionables) and wipe away the drool on filthy cuffs as they rush off to relect him. Or is it, perhaps, that they are far smarter than you and I, preferring a blatant do-nothing in lieu of the damage one who actually participates in pirate ship on the Potomac will wreak?
Awaken!
n2ize
12-31-2007, 04:01 PM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 30 2007,15:15)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Dec. 30 2007,15:12)]Ron Paul's weak point is that he doesn'thave a viable plan or a realistic vision
I think that following the Constitution is a very viable plan.
If he were following the constitution perhaps. Unfortunately going back to an early 19th century interpretation of the constitution is going to create some major problems in this country. Which is largely why few educated Americans are taking Paul seriously.
Bear in mind I like some of Paul's message. But I can't support him given his unreality and lack of a viable and sensible plan. Otherwise he might have my support.
KD6NIG
12-31-2007, 04:04 PM
He'll do better than:
Mickey Mouse
Donald Duck
Alfred E Newman
Beavis and Butthead
etc. etc.
K7JEM
12-31-2007, 05:20 PM
I had considered voting for RP, but after all the inane posts started here, and elsewhere, by his toadies, it seems that his followers are a lunatic fringe.
I don't want to be associated with such tactics.
RP has his own definition of the constitution, and it differs from mainstream people. To call him a "nut case" is to be kind.
Joe
Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Dec. 31 2007,09:20)]I had considered voting for RP, but after all the inane posts started here, and elsewhere, by his toadies, it seems that his followers are a lunatic fringe.
I don't want to be associated with such tactics.
RP has his own definition of the constitution, and it differs from mainstream people. To call him a "nut case" is to be kind.
Joe
Thank you for being so sane.
KG4JYD
12-31-2007, 09:52 PM
Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Dec. 31 2007,10:20)]I had considered voting for RP,
Have you ever bothered to read http://ronpaullibrary.org ?
K7JEM
12-31-2007, 10:40 PM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 31 2007,14:52)]Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Dec. 31 2007,10:20)]I had considered voting for RP,
Have you ever bothered to read http://ronpaullibrary.org ?
No.
I see that a good percentage of his sycophants are morons, or people that don't understand what they are talking about, or have no concept of liberty or the constitution. I see he is supported by radical and hate mongering groups.
His supporters scream so loudly that I can't tell what his message really is, just that I don't want in on it.
Joe
KG4JYD
12-31-2007, 10:50 PM
Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Dec. 31 2007,15:40)]His supporters scream so loudly that I can't tell what his message really is, just that I don't want in on it.
Well RonPaulLibrary.org is your opportunity to go see what Ron Paul says himself. Everything there is an original writing or speech by Ron.
KG4JYD
12-31-2007, 10:51 PM
Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Dec. 31 2007,15:40)]I see he is supported by radical and hate mongering groups.
Every candidate has their fringe supporters. Ron is no different in that regard.
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Dec. 31 2007,08:01)]Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 30 2007,15:15)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Dec. 30 2007,15:12)]Ron Paul's weak point is that he doesn'thave a viable plan or a realistic vision
I think that following the Constitution is a very viable plan.
If he were following the constitution perhaps. Unfortunately going back to an early 19th century interpretation of the constitution is going to create some major problems in this country. Which is largely why few educated Americans are taking Paul seriously.
Bear in mind I like some of Paul's message. But I can't support him given his unreality and lack of a viable and sensible plan. Otherwise he might have my support.
Ron Paul's free-market views are in direct opposition to your favor of government controls and regulations. It was never even a question. I have a similar problem with Barack Obama and Dennis Kucinich, where I agree with many of their views, but they are in favor of ever-more government regulation. The other guy who most closely agrees with my views on economics is Alan Keyes.
W3MIV
01-01-2008, 01:10 AM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 31 2007,18:51)]Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Dec. 31 2007,15:40)]I see he is supported by radical and hate mongering groups.
Every candidate has their fringe supporters. Ron is no different in that regard.
Wrong. Ron Paul is all fringe and no rug. Joe has his supporters pegged to a tee.
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 31 2007,17:10)]Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 31 2007,18:51)]Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Dec. 31 2007,15:40)]I see he is supported by radical and hate mongering groups.
Every candidate has their fringe supporters. Ron is no different in that regard.
Wrong. Ron Paul is all fringe and no rug. Joe has his supporters pegged to a tee.
He has a great deal of support in Europe, Canada, Australia, etc., you know, fringe non-voters. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
KG4JYD
01-01-2008, 02:10 AM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 31 2007,18:10)]Ron Paul is all fringe
Why is it that Ron Paul is the leading recipient of donations from the active US military servicemen?
N3ATS
01-01-2008, 02:43 AM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Dec. 31 2007,11:01)]Bear in mind I like some of Paul's message. But I can't support him given his unreality and lack of a viable and sensible plan.
But Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader do? What are their plans?
AE6IP
01-01-2008, 02:56 AM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 31 2007,19:10)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 31 2007,18:10)]Ron Paul is all fringe
Why is it that Ron Paul is the leading recipient of donations from the active US military servicemen?
he's not.
thanks for playing.
KG4JYD
01-01-2008, 03:10 PM
Ron Paul has received more donations from active servicemen than any of the other GOP candidates.
AE6IP
01-01-2008, 06:45 PM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Jan. 01 2008,08:10)]Ron Paul has received more donations from active servicemen than any of the other GOP candidates.
and less than either Obama or Clinton.
Since Paul is routinely low in fund raising compared to the top candidates and fund raising is clearly important to you, this means, of course, that you'll be switching to another candidate?