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it9jcb
12-30-2007, 12:56 AM
I've got my ft-950 few days ago....all is going OK but the SSB rx audio seems to be to low and too much low-pass filtered. I've tried a pair of external speakers without relevant results. It sounds to fat on basses....played also with rx setting menu ...nothing to say. Has anyone tested it......? 73's de Claudio IT9JCB

w3qe
12-30-2007, 04:35 AM
For an RF expert you sure are quick to judge before looking and trying. There are only a thousand different ways to set it.


On Receive it sounds ok to me, not much differance than the PROIII sitting beside it.
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FROM REFLECTOR


I have done a lot of testing with the FT-2000 parametriq equalizer.
Hopefully the FT-950 equalizer is identical in setup.

Try these settings:
These have been tested using the MD-100 microphone and gave great
results. This settings gave a rather "broad" ragchew SSB TX audio.
These also works great with the MH-31b8 original hand mic.

Menu 064 (SSB TX bandwidth): 1-30 (100-3000 Hz). Setting at 2-28 (200-
2800 Hz) gives a bandwidth of 2600Hz and makes you sound more
narrow/sharp (better for DX ?).

Parametriq EQ (withouth PROC)

Menu 091 : 100
Menu 092 : +6
Menu 093 : 3
Menu 094 : 1000
Menu 095 : -5
Menu 096 : 5
Menu 097 : 3200
Menu 098 : +10
Menu 099 : 1

Parametriq EQ (with PROC)

Menu 100 : 100
Menu 101 : -10
Menu 102 : 6 to 8
Menu 103 : 800
Menu 104 : 0 to -3
Menu 105 : 8
Menu 106 : 2400 to 2600
Menu 107 : +10
Menu 108 : 1

Menu 109 (PROC GAIN): try 25% NOTE !! distorts badly if turned up too
much !! Use the monitor function and headphones to hear at which level
distortion starts.

IMPORTANT ! Don't forget to push and hold MENU for 2 seconds to exit
menu and store new settings !

Mic gain at 11 - 12'o clock (watch the ALC-level)

Using PROC really cuts throug in noisy band conditions. This is mostly
because of the difference in parametriq equalizer settings.

VERY IMPORTANT !
Distance to MD-100 : around 15-20 cm. (6-8 inches).
Please set all controls underneath the MD-100 in the OFF/THRUE
position.
Distance to MH-31b8 : around 8-10cm. (3-4 inches) any closer than 2
inches will create breathing noise (very unpleasant).

Other menu settings :

Menu 036 : A3E mic gain (AM) : 90
Menu 056 : F3E mic gain (FM) : 25

it9jcb
12-30-2007, 07:27 PM
Thanks to K3EY for useful infos...the proposed menu setting regards only the tx side, I've also found similar settings on mine.
Unfortunately there are NO settings for which concern the rx side response, only agc decay time. 73's Claudio

k9xr
01-02-2008, 06:52 PM
K3EY, in my book RX means "RECEIVE".

Who's so Quick to judge??

W0BKR
01-04-2008, 09:26 PM
I just got my 950 and honestly, don't notice that issue, but try adjusting the SHIFT or any of the other IF filtering settings.

First impression of radio (still have a long way to "learn" this radio):

1. NB doesn't seem to really help much if at all.
2. DNR is so-so but then again, so are the others out there for really cutting out noise, etc.
3. Selectivity (i.e. roofing filter selection, etc.) doesn't seem to be there, nor do controls such as Roofing Filters have much effect on QRN.
4. Radio is easy to navigate if you don't require the menu items.
5. Sounds good, a bit confusing on the "block diagram" display. Just give me a simple "Filter 1 or Filter 2, etc" selection indication.
6. Miss the analog meter.
7. Back panel well marked.
8. Knobs and general ergonomics seems very nice.


Just my first hour or so with this radio.

ae5eh
01-11-2008, 09:00 PM
I've had mine for a month now.

So far, I'm pleased. Of course I'm a new operator so how could I know anything, right? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I'm still experimenting with the menus and really like the tweakability. The only one I've done adjusting with the most is the contour in trying to pull out weak signals in the noise. It works well for me. The more I dig into the menus as a use this radio, the more I like it.

Be careful with the speech processor. I have mine set at 40. I believe the default setting is 50.


Seems like if you don't like the FT2000, you won't like the 950 either.

With all the bitching about this radio in the 950 yahoo group, you'd think that ebay would be flooded with these for sale.

Sad that there is just no making some folks happy. They piss and moan when something costs so much (IC7800), and still do the same when something doesn't cost much but doesn't perform like a million bucks (FT857/897/450/950). http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

W9LDV
01-28-2008, 12:38 AM
gosh i am so glad i don't have to work with all those menus on my ts-520s. i can just turn it on and speak and it didn't cost me a arm and leg for it. must be nice to buy a new radio and spend all your time trying to make it sound good on transmitt and recieve. some guys have all the fun.:D

it9jcb
01-28-2008, 04:20 PM
Ok guys, this is my "first month" report about the FT-950.
First of all I've to say that I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed too..) about the K3EY and K9XR comments: yes I'm an engineer, I could judge a rig simply looking to its block diagram but I use also my hears to do it and if a say that it sounds bad on Rx (=receive, yes) I mean that I'm using my hears as instrument.

Hereafter the Pros and Cons:

Pros (in order of importance):

- the radio look is very good as well as the general level of construction:everything knobs, display, connectors etc etc. is as for higher class products.

- value for money (I payed it about 1350.00 euros) is outstanding.

- the DSP works very well on transmission: audio quality is excellent even using the original MH-31 micro and properly adjusting the built-in parametric equalizer.

- The RF section of the receiver (means IMD, birdies, noise etc ) is very good, at same level of higher class rigs like IC756proIII and others, and probably it's a bit better because it 's possible to select between three roofing filters instead of one with 15 KHz bandwidth. This results in a very quiet receiver.


Cons (in order of importance):

- there is (at time, depending on the who is speaking into the micro) a strong AGC attack distortion on receive: audible clipping is present clearly especially if you use the contour control as boost (plus) instead of notch (minus). Other peoples have reported this problem in their eHam reviews.

- speech processor works very bad and cannot practically used: too much distortion.

- the receive audio is too much filtered and smoothed for me (checked also by switching A/B to my TS-140S same ext speaker SP20). I've solved the problem connecting the packet audio out to an external amp.

- No dedicated TX power control knob: it's very tedious to play with menu each time you have the adjust power out.

- low PEP power: the CW power is as for others rigs ~100W, while the PEP is a bit lower, my TS140S has 130W PEP while FT-950 has just 100W.

- DNR: for me it does not work at all, the noise is killed but the artifact on the cleaned signal is too much for me. Listen at Icom DNR....

I would like to point out that the reported Cons refers to the DSP section and they could be easily fixed by a new software version eventually provided by Yaesu after receiving feedback reports form users. In any case I would suggest this rig to everyone wants an honest DSP rig without spending a fortune for it. For the moment my 950 still stands in my desk....

73s
IT9JCB

k9xr
01-28-2008, 09:17 PM
Ok guys, this is my "first month" report about the FT-950.
First of all I've to say that I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed too..) about the K3EY and K9XR comments: yes I'm an engineer, I could judge a rig simply looking to its block diagram but I use also my hears to do it and if a say that it sounds bad on Rx (=receive, yes) I mean that I'm using my hears as instrument.

Hereafter the Pros and Cons:

Pros (in order of importance):

- the radio look is very good as well as the general level of construction:everything knobs, display, connectors etc etc. is as for higher class products.

- value for money (I payed it about 1350.00 euros) is outstanding.

- the DSP works very well on transmission: audio quality is excellent even using the original MH-31 micro and properly adjusting the built-in parametric equalizer.

- The RF section of the receiver (means IMD, birdies, noise etc ) is very good, at same level of higher class rigs like IC756proIII and others, and probably it's a bit better because it 's possible to select between three roofing filters instead of one with 15 KHz bandwidth. This results in a very quiet receiver.


Cons (in order of importance):

- there is (at time, depending on the who is speaking into the micro) a strong AGC attack distortion on receive: audible clipping is present clearly especially if you use the contour control as boost (plus) instead of notch (minus). Other peoples have reported this problem in their eHam reviews.

- speech processor works very bad and cannot practically used: too much distortion.

- the receive audio is too much filtered and smoothed for me (checked also by switching A/B to my TS-140S same ext speaker SP20). I've solved the problem connecting the packet audio out to an external amp.

- No dedicated TX power control knob: it's very tedious to play with menu each time you have the adjust power out.

- low PEP power: the CW power is as for others rigs ~100W, while the PEP is a bit lower, my TS140S has 130W PEP while FT-950 has just 100W.

- DNR: for me it does not work at all, the noise is killed but the artifact on the cleaned signal is too much for me. Listen at Icom DNR....

I would like to point out that the reported Cons refers to the DSP section and they could be easily fixed by a new software version eventually provided by Yaesu after receiving feedback reports form users. In any case I would suggest this rig to everyone wants an honest DSP rig without spending a fortune for it. For the moment my 950 still stands in my desk....

73s
IT9JCB


I am sorry if I offended you. I did not direct any bad will toward you. I just did not care for the way he attacked your oppinion. He then quoted a big list of transmitter settings that had nothing to do with the receiver settings.
I think he got pretty defensive about the comments on a radio that he had just gotten.

By the way he must be a little confused or something because about a week after his post he got rid of the FT-950. Maybe he never learned to use it properly, I don't really know.

I hope you have good luck with your new rig.

I just wanted to set the record straight.

73 Al K9XR

it9jcb
01-29-2008, 02:21 PM
Hi Albert..sorry, didn't read carefully your post. You don't have to excuse with me, I got a bit confused with the 'other' guy. 73s de IT9JCB

PS I think that ham community need to have an extensive technical training before to be able to push a PTT or a CW key....agree ?

k9xr
01-29-2008, 07:41 PM
Hi Albert..sorry, didn't read carefully your post. You don't have to excuse with me, I got a bit confused with the 'other' guy. 73s de IT9JCB

PS I think that ham community need to have an extensive technical training before to be able to push a PTT or a CW key....agree ?

OK no problem. One of the problems that comes along with these menu driven radios is they make us do something we never thought we had to do before. That is: reading the manual. They have mure useful functions than anything we have used in days gone by, but sometimes we may have to do a little research with the manual to utilize them. I have a 756 PRO and a IC 7000 and I make sure the manuals are always within easy reach.

Yes, you are right, we need to get educated before we attempt to use them. I guess it never hurts to learn something new. I just wish it was as easy to learn as it used to be.

Keep us updated on your progress with the radio and Good Luck.

73, Al

kd4qft
04-10-2008, 02:19 AM
I have been away from radio for 15 years and have been looking at reviews for equipment, I have seen the member listed on these pages using two differant call signs one apperantly not yet released for use to give a zero review and also with the differant call sign a 2 review for the 950, I also have two call signs I can legally use from differant Countries but would only judge once, it is unfair to give reviews more than once, if you wish to change a previous review delete the first and then correct your previous judgement, if the web site does not allow this, do not judge too quickly, and please Amateurs we have always been judged a group of weirdoes by "normal "people but we all tried to help each other so stop bitching and just help.

k9xr
04-10-2008, 04:19 AM
I have been away from radio for 15 years and have been looking at reviews for equipment, I have seen the member listed on these pages using two differant call signs one apperantly not yet released for use to give a zero review and also with the differant call sign a 2 review for the 950, I also have two call signs I can legally use from differant Countries but would only judge once, it is unfair to give reviews more than once, if you wish to change a previous review delete the first and then correct your previous judgement, if the web site does not allow this, do not judge too quickly, and please Amateurs we have always been judged a group of weirdoes by "normal "people but we all tried to help each other so stop bitching and just help.

I'm not sure who you are talking about with the two reviews. I know that at least three guys who gave reviews in this thread have sold their FT-950's. It was reviewed in QST recently and It didn't seem they were very impressed with it either.

kd4qft
04-10-2008, 04:06 PM
Hi
The reviewer I have looked at is on eHam site giving a zero with one call sign and a 2 with another call sign, I decided to look up their licence details for length of licence class etc as most other hams are giving 3 to 5 and found the same name to both the licence details, I then decided this was a person with a gripe with the company and not really a review to take note of, I am unsure how you can give a zero any way unless the equipment did not switch on from new, it is really difficult understanding reviews from most hams as only a few seem to back up their information with actual numbers or scales, your monthly review is what is required about actually using the unit over a length of time not a couple of days, I seem to think I am the only ham who looks into the equipment reviews for ages BEFORE buying or I do not yet have enough money to buy whatever and sell two days later because of a whim.
I am considering the 950 for the following
Cost $1330 is best price in USA I can find, any one know cheaper post on here.
The receiver as the capability of having the added external filter for the bands I prefer.
I assume the short falls various hams find will be updated with a menu driven unit with future downloads.
External psu, cheaper to return faulty units with shipping costs etc.
Oh and did I mention cost.
And the main reason cost is the winner, more expensive is not always the better purchase.
I have personal experience where selling items too cheaply can cost the cheaper dealer the sale, but that's another story.
PLEASE update your findings as I am still considering a second Kenwood 830 to add to my original one or maybe go back to stamp or coin collecting and put 830 back under bed for another 15 years by that time I will probably not need any radio or any other type of junk.

W0BKR
04-11-2008, 04:45 PM
That is one nit with Eham. If you want to update or amend your review, you can't. You are FORCED to either enter another review or just skip it.

I like many others, downloaded the manual and read it, read it and read it some more.

If I didn't need or watn 6 meters, the 830 is a super receiver just as is teh TS-850. But if you are wanting something new, then the 950 may work for you. It didn't as a back up radio for me and I have no regrets parting with mine.

You have to consider your needs and cost. For me, I wanted something with better capability for low bands which it failed miserably. However, if I was just a generic rag chewer, then it would work for me and be a reasonably new radio.

You have to be critical when you are buying something new and spending whether it be $1000 or 10000.

ae5eh
04-21-2008, 04:07 AM
I've had mine for a month now.

So far, I'm pleased. Of course I'm a new operator so how could I know anything, right? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I'm still experimenting with the menus and really like the tweakability. The only one I've done adjusting with the most is the contour in trying to pull out weak signals in the noise. It works well for me. The more I dig into the menus as a use this radio, the more I like it.

Be careful with the speech processor. I have mine set at 40. I believe the default setting is 50.


Seems like if you don't like the FT2000, you won't like the 950 either.

With all the bitching about this radio in the 950 yahoo group, you'd think that ebay would be flooded with these for sale.

Sad that there is just no making some folks happy. They piss and moan when something costs so much (IC7800), and still do the same when something doesn't cost much but doesn't perform like a million bucks (FT857/897/450/950). http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Sometimes it takes some work to figure out what you really want in a radio. You can't get something for nothing. If you want more, it may, and most likely will most of the time cost you. The 950 was not a bad radio for the price. I felt like I got more or less what I paid for. But it wasn't enough, so I sold it and got a brand new IC756PROIII. Big improvement over the 950, and a fair improvement over the basket case 756PRO I had.

Well, this month, it was either Dayton, or another radio toy. So I got a new IC7700. Yeah, I think this thing will keep me engaged for a while. I believe I will have to work pretty hard to find it's limitations.

ky5u
04-27-2008, 04:06 PM
Love my 950. RX good and love the Tx equalizer for the price. My only complaint is not being able to find out how to transmit on one antenna and receive on a different one without having to switch.

ae5eh
04-28-2008, 12:13 AM
Love my 950. RX good and love the Tx equalizer for the price. My only complaint is not being able to find out how to transmit on one antenna and receive on a different one without having to switch.

Have you heard anything official about the first firmware upgrade? The 950 is a decent radio. I'm thinking the first firmware upgrade will make it even better.

73 de terry ae5eh

k9xr
04-29-2008, 09:03 PM
I've had mine for a month now.

So far, I'm pleased. Of course I'm a new operator so how could I know anything, right? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I'm still experimenting with the menus and really like the tweakability. The only one I've done adjusting with the most is the contour in trying to pull out weak signals in the noise. It works well for me. The more I dig into the menus as a use this radio, the more I like it.

Be careful with the speech processor. I have mine set at 40. I believe the default setting is 50.


Seems like if you don't like the FT2000, you won't like the 950 either.

With all the bitching about this radio in the 950 yahoo group, you'd think that ebay would be flooded with these for sale.

Sad that there is just no making some folks happy. They piss and moan when something costs so much (IC7800), and still do the same when something doesn't cost much but doesn't perform like a million bucks (FT857/897/450/950). http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Sounds like the voice of experience to me. How is that 950 doing now?

ae5eh
05-01-2008, 05:15 PM
:)Sounds like the voice of experience to me. How is that 950 doing now?

Yup, for sure my friend. Dollars paid, hands on using it in just about all the ways I cared to see it used in. My own digging and searching. I wanted more than the 950 was capable of giving, so rather than pissing and moaning about what I thought it should do (wow, who would do such a thing?) I quietly sold it, and got something else. But unlike so many others always looking for everything for nothing, and slamming the 950, I didn't. Looking back on it, I don't regret owning it. I still think it was a decent radio overall for the price, which is cheaper now than when I purchased mine.

How's my FT950 doing? Couldn't tell you for sure, but I can put you in touch with the guy that bought it from me, and you can ask him if you like.

And, has the first firmware upgrade come out for the FT950? Maybe you can tell me. I've seriously considered buying another one as a collectors item before mother batwing sells Yaesu. :)

k2gsp
05-12-2008, 04:37 AM
I have had my 950 for about a month now and I love it. the price at R&L was cheap. I was able to buy the external speaker and the MD-100 desk mic for about the cost of a 746 pro.

I have no problem with the RX. I have been able to pull out stations I would have missed in the past, due to QRM. I have gotten more great signal reports then I can ever remember. I'm very happy with it.

Still learning the menus, so I will let you know how they go.

Overall I'm happy camper.