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n2nh
12-29-2007, 12:01 AM
Still a blog, and by the Paul supporter, STILL NEWS TOO:

Quote[/b] ]After my last two diaries, in which I showed that Rep. Ron Paul is a racist bastard who personifies the radical right, my master plan ran into a bit of a snag when my cover was blown. I confess: I am in fact an agent of the Giuliani campaign, sent here to unite Republicans against Paul as part of my neoconservative agenda, and my years-long history of contributing here, including my 5-part documentary ridiculing the neocons, has all been part of a secret plot to discredit Ron Paul, starting years before he decided to run. Oh, and I'm also Mia Dolan.

Yes, folks, welcome to the weird, wild, wacky, wonderful world of conspiracy theorists, where everything is proof of something and lack of proof is the strongest proof of all. It's a world where the Illuminati lurk around every corner and Hanlon's Razor is utterly unknown. It's a world Ron Paul knows only too well.

RON PAUL: DUDE IS WACK (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/22/104728/153)

KG4JYD
12-29-2007, 04:13 AM
Again, more brainless nonsense with zero substantially.

Move along, nothing to see here http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

KC9JIQ
12-29-2007, 04:18 AM
What is wrong with being raciest, sexiest, or heterophobe?

n2nh
12-29-2007, 06:46 AM
Once again the Paulies are proving to the rest of us how 'sane' they are. Clickee the linkee koolaid boy the sad truth is there in black and white. Keep the rubes moving though? That's your idea of answering the allegations you said the Times "apologized" for? MWaaahaha...

It's already over for Paul.

KG4JYD
12-29-2007, 02:54 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Dec. 28 2007,23:46)]Clickee the linkee
Why would I click a link to support blogs and advertisers that are patently biased?

n2nh
12-29-2007, 02:56 PM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 29 2007,09:54)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Dec. 28 2007,23:46)]Clickee the linkee
Why would I click a link to support blogs and advertisers that are patently biased?
You mean like all the Pauley boy links that you've provided for us all these months and insist that we click?

You're showing your partisian colors. It ain't pretty Pauley boy.

N3ATS
12-29-2007, 03:18 PM
I never thought I would see the day where those from the left would support candidates for POTUS who voted for the Patriot Act AND the Iraq war.

Unbelievable.

W3MIV
12-29-2007, 03:19 PM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 29 2007,00:13)]Again, more brainless nonsense with zero substantially.
So, you are finally viewing Paul for what he is?

Edit: I presume "substantially" is really supposed to be "substantiality?" Well, that, too, is a non-word. The term you struggle for is "substance," and yes indeed, Paul lacks it in buckets.

KB3LIX
12-29-2007, 04:44 PM
This guy, Ron Paul IS a joke........Right http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif


Kinda like Pat Paulsen back in the 70's http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

AE6IP
12-29-2007, 04:56 PM
Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ Dec. 29 2007,09:44)]This guy, Ron Paul IS a joke........Right http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif


Kinda like Pat Paulsen back in the 70's http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
More like Ross Perot. . .

K5FH
12-29-2007, 06:33 PM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Dec. 29 2007,09:56)]Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ Dec. 29 2007,09:44)]This guy, Ron Paul IS a joke........Right #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif


Kinda like Pat Paulsen back in the 70's #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
More like Ross Perot. . .

Perot's candidacy in and of itself was a joke but it's effect on the outcome of the election wasn't. #If it hadn't been for Perot siphoning off the disaffected Republican vote, Clinton wouldn't have won in 1992 and the Hildebeeste wouldn't be a problem now.

Paul won't be able to make that kind of difference since he probably won't make it past New Hampshire and doesn't want to try a third-party bid.

Paul has the same problem all Libertarian candidates do (he's officially a Republican but in name only). #The Libertarians' positions on many issues sound good up to a point but then they leap headfirst off a political cliff and alienate many who might have supported them. #But, as seen on this forum and elsewhere, most Paul supporters don't seem to realize that.

No, I'm afraid we're stuck with with the standard choice between D and R. #Kind of like a judge asking, "Does the condemned have any preference as to the method of execution?"

N7RJD
12-29-2007, 06:44 PM
A sure sign of a candidate making a dent is when the opposition and it's supporters take the time to start making noise about them.

N2RJ
12-29-2007, 06:50 PM
Quote[/b] (KC9JIQ @ Dec. 28 2007,23:18)]What is wrong with being raciest, sexiest, or heterophobe?
There is something very wrong when you want to be the leader of a country of 300 million diverse people.

I don't believe that an outright racist should be President, and I will vote as such.

al2i
12-29-2007, 07:14 PM
Quote[/b] (N3ATS @ Dec. 29 2007,07:18)]I never thought I would see the day where those from the left would support candidates for POTUS who voted for the Patriot Act AND the Iraq war.

Unbelievable.
It is to be expected. How do you think we got here, if it were not for politics as usual?

KG4JYD
12-29-2007, 07:25 PM
Quote[/b] (K5FH @ Dec. 29 2007,11:33)]Perot's candidacy in and of itself was a joke but it's effect on the outcome of the election wasn't. If it hadn't been for Perot siphoning off the disaffected Republican vote, Clinton wouldn't have won in 1992 and the Hildebeeste wouldn't be a problem now.

Paul won't be able to make that kind of difference since he probably won't make it past New Hampshire and doesn't want to try a third-party bid.

Paul has the same problem all Libertarian candidates do (he's officially a Republican but in name only).
Yes, Ron can and will actually have an outcome on this election. He has $20 million in cash on hand which is more than McCain and Huckabee. This means he will be able to continue through the entire race, not just dropping out like some of the others will.

He has also stated that he will not support any of the other GOP candidates if he does not get the nomination.


Ron Paul is libertarian but he is also a Republican advocating traditional Republican principles.

The fact of the matter is that if Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination the GOP is going to be in a world of #### just like with Clinton.

AE6IP
12-29-2007, 07:29 PM
Quote[/b] (K5FH @ Dec. 29 2007,11:33)]Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Dec. 29 2007,09:56)]Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ Dec. 29 2007,09:44)]This guy, Ron Paul IS a joke........Right http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif


Kinda like Pat Paulsen back in the 70's http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
More like Ross Perot. . .

Perot's candidacy in and of itself was a joke but it's effect on the outcome of the election wasn't. If it hadn't been for Perot siphoning off the disaffected Republican vote, Clinton wouldn't have won in 1992 and the Hildebeeste wouldn't be a problem now.


as I said...

Quote[/b] ]Paul won't be able to make that kind of difference since he probably won't make it past New Hampshire and doesn't want to try a third-party bid.

Oh, he'll make it to Super Duper Tuesday, simply by coasting. That's inevitable at this point.

Quote[/b] ]
No, I'm afraid we're stuck with with the standard choice between D and R. Kind of like a judge asking, "Does the condemned have any preference as to the method of execution?"

Don't be so sure. Front runners have a long history of falling behind in presidential campaigns.

KG4JYD
12-29-2007, 07:32 PM
Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Dec. 29 2007,11:50)]I don't believe that an outright racist should be President, and I will vote as such.
Well fortunately Ron Paul is not a racist.

al2i
12-29-2007, 07:33 PM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 29 2007,11:32)]Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Dec. 29 2007,11:50)]I don't believe that an outright racist should be President, and I will vote as such.
Well fortunately Ron Paul is not a racist.
That is true, but Truth is not capitalized around these parts. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

N3ATS
12-29-2007, 07:56 PM
Unfortunately, by creating racial and economic divide and allowing for the citizenry to be played by the race card, it can be used to distract people from the real issues. This is exactly how the power brokers in BOTH parties have been sticking it to use for decades.

Racists? Indeed. Who are the real racists?

You know the ones who, will continue programs for people based on the color of their skin.

The ones who will continue to push for divisions of the classes in order to continue pulling in votes.

The ones who think that people of color are too stupid and dumb to survive without the government's help.

But these type of people give just enough to keep the dependent following the carrot. "Don't give them too much, or we couldn't guarantee a vote the next time around."

These policies have been pandering to race for a long, long time and have contributed to keeping the blacks in bondage since the first slave ships made land here in the New World.

Let everyone be free, let everyone benefit from the rights and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution. Give people the freedom and liberty to become successful by their own ways and means, not based on their skin color.

al2i
12-29-2007, 08:00 PM
Well said Steve OM.

AE6IP
12-29-2007, 08:30 PM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 29 2007,12:25)]Ron Paul is libertarian but he is also a Republican advocating traditional Republican principles.
You keep saying that, but repetition doesn't make it so.

Which "traditional" republican values?

He wouldn't support keeping the Union together, as Lincoln did.

He wouldn't have trusted busted or invaded like T. R.

He wouldn't have, he claims, trod on civil liberties like Nixon.

He wouldn't have kited checks or funded a large military build up like Reagan.

He wouldn't have defended Kuwait against Iraq's invasion, like Bush I.

I'm starting to suspect that you don't actually have a grasp of what traditional Republican principles are.

kc2orw
12-29-2007, 08:51 PM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Dec. 29 2007,16:30)]I'm starting to suspect that you don't actually have a grasp of what traditional Republican principles are.
Nah he just makes it up as he goes like Ron Paul does

N3ATS
12-29-2007, 09:05 PM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Dec. 29 2007,15:30)]Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 29 2007,12:25)]Ron Paul is libertarian but he is also a Republican advocating traditional Republican principles.
You keep saying that, but repetition doesn't make it so.

Which "traditional" republican values?

He wouldn't support keeping the Union together, as Lincoln did.

He wouldn't have trusted busted or invaded like T. R.

He wouldn't have, he claims, trod on civil liberties like Nixon.

He wouldn't have kited checks or funded a large military build up like Reagan.

He wouldn't have defended Kuwait against Iraq's invasion, like Bush I.

I'm starting to suspect that you don't actually have a grasp of what traditional Republican principles are.
JYD,

You're confusing traditional REPUBLICAN values with traditional CONSERVATIVE values.

A Republican does not always a Conservative make.

Forget party, and think ideology.

KC9JIQ
12-29-2007, 09:09 PM
Conservative Republicans are what we need, that and Southern Democrats.

These "big buisness" "moderate" Republicans are a farce to the Republic. They and the liberal Democrats must go!

al2i
12-29-2007, 09:14 PM
Quote[/b] (KC9JIQ @ Dec. 29 2007,13:09)]These "big buisness" "moderate" Republicans are a farce to the Republic. They and the liberal Democrats must go!
These two groups have been running the country for some time and don't plan to go anywhere.

kc2orw
12-29-2007, 09:21 PM
Quote[/b] (N3ATS @ Dec. 29 2007,17:05)]You're confusing traditional REPUBLICAN values with traditional CONSERVATIVE values.

A Republican does not always a Conservative make.

Forget party, and think ideology.
Exactly Ron Paul is a Libertarian and thus is not likely to appeal to the main sequence of voters.
In about 6 to 10 weeks, poof he's gone, unless he goes independent. Coarse he promised not to but we shall see, might decide to burn up some of the funds he collected...

N3ATS
12-29-2007, 09:47 PM
I guess we'll all have to wait and see.

KG4JYD
12-29-2007, 11:06 PM
Quote[/b] (kc2orw @ Dec. 29 2007,14:21)]unless he goes independent. Coarse he promised not to but we shall see,
He has made no such promise.

KG4JYD
12-29-2007, 11:07 PM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Dec. 29 2007,13:30)]Which "traditional" republican values?
Limited government, states rights, a humble foreign policy - no nation building, fiscal responsibility.

Is it really that difficult for you to grasp?

W3MIV
12-29-2007, 11:21 PM
The guy's a fraud.

Is it really that difficult for YOU to grasp?

AE6IP
12-30-2007, 01:27 AM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Dec. 29 2007,16:07)]Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Dec. 29 2007,13:30)]Which "traditional" republican values?
Limited government, states rights, a humble foreign policy - no nation building, fiscal responsibility.

Is it really that difficult for you to grasp?
You did not pay attention to the list of Republican presidents I mentioned. Each one of them clearly did not value that particular list.

Your list of items are not traditional Republican values. Even your fellow Paulines have pointed that out to you.

N3ATS
12-30-2007, 02:33 AM
I gotta go with Marty on this one.

Matt, you're confusing conservative with Republican.

wa6ccw
12-30-2007, 03:57 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Dec. 29 2007,07:01)]Still a blog, and by the Paul supporter, STILL NEWS TOO:

Quote[/b] ]After my last two diaries, in which I showed that Rep. Ron Paul is a racist bastard who personifies the radical right, my master plan ran into a bit of a snag when my cover was blown. I confess: I am in fact an agent of the Giuliani campaign, sent here to unite Republicans against Paul as part of my neoconservative agenda, and my years-long history of contributing here, including my 5-part documentary ridiculing the neocons, has all been part of a secret plot to discredit Ron Paul, starting years before he decided to run. Oh, and I'm also Mia Dolan.

Yes, folks, welcome to the weird, wild, wacky, wonderful world of conspiracy theorists, where everything is proof of something and lack of proof is the strongest proof of all. It's a world where the Illuminati lurk around every corner and Hanlon's Razor is utterly unknown. It's a world Ron Paul knows only too well.

RON PAUL: DUDE IS WACK (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/22/104728/153)
C'mon...

After 12,000+ posts, surely you could come up with something better than this.

Geez. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

kg6amw
12-30-2007, 02:36 PM
Ron Paul’s plan for America. The entire culture will be controlled by a group of 'lawgivers' known as "The Body" which is, in turn, controlled by the omniscient Landru (Ron Paul). The inhabitants change from normal, peaceful people to a violent mob at the coming of the Red Hour. This 'Festival' is the society's only outlet for the tyrannical hold that Landru (Ron Paul) has over them at all other times.

n2nh
12-30-2007, 02:58 PM
Quote[/b] (wa6ccw @ Dec. 29 2007,22:57)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Dec. 29 2007,07:01)]Still a blog, and by the Paul supporter, STILL NEWS TOO:

RON PAUL: DUDE IS WACK (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/22/104728/153)
C'mon...

After 12,000+ posts, surely you could come up with something better than this.

Geez. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]
Yes I can. I was adhering to the criteria that RON PAUL ™ supporters demanded. The same one that says a blog is NEWS.

I state as much right at the beginning. Of course, this blog uses sources, unlike that hotair stuff you like.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

k0ews
12-30-2007, 04:12 PM
Deaniacs...Paulines...what's the difference, really? #Yes, I know that they are complete opposites in ideology, but isn't it queer that the same personality type is emerging again in 2008 as there was in 2004? #Both times a very dedicated, VERY vocal, minority, talking about "taking the country back" and speaking of "grassroots" movements and the power of the Internet. #Real True Believers. #I have got to respect them for that. #I've no room for that kind of blind faith in someone like they do. #For that, I'll give them props as I could never be like that. #Now, as for the politicians, #I'm too suspicious of any of them to ever be that devoted. They have to show me something to earn it first. #Experience, therefore matters to me more, especially the types that can work within Washington, even as bad as that can seem sometime. #I value pols who can get things done, and know how to govern. #I feel like this next election cycle or two is very important to our country and our place in the world. #I feel like we need an experienced leader; someone from the grown-up's table, and no on the job training. #I'm willing to support a pol, even if I disagree with them on some things, if they can convince me that they are competent, know what they want, and how they will get it. #That carries much more weight with me than vague statements like "taking the country back" or whatever. #
We have serious issues facing us, and we need someone who can be there for all of the people, not just the 20 percent on the fringe.

KG4JYD
12-30-2007, 05:03 PM
Quote[/b] (k0ews @ Dec. 30 2007,09:12)]I've no room for that kind of blind faith in someone like they do.
There is no blind faith involved here. Nor is this a cult of personality.

We are all voting for Ron Paul because his congressional record is consistent (you can research that yourself) and that his message is consistent too. You can go to YouTube and watch videos of him in the 80s and you can read some of his writings from the 70s and they pretty much say the same thing today.

Even if you don't agree with Ron Paul, he is the most integrity of anyone running which is why so many Democrats are voting for him. McCain even called Ron Paul the most honest man in Congress.

If you want to read more about Ron Paul check this:
http://ronpaullibrary.com/

and also
http://www.youtube.com/ronpaul2008dotcom