Please pray for my fish [Archive]

K8MHZ

12-16-2007, 11:39 PM

It would be so easy to come up with a smart Aleck remark but I hope things work out.

My kid has a couple fish that I have become quite fond of. A few months ago one of them died and the remaining fish actually got heartsick and wouldn't eat, he just sat at the bottom of the tank. I was lucky enough to find another fish that looked just like the one that died and I couldn't believe how the other fish acted when I put the replacement in the tank. Yeah, I know it doesn't say much about his intelligence, but it does show that fish have more feelings than we give them credit for.

I am the one that feeds them most of the time and when I go near the tank they both look at me through the glass and 'beg'.

Now if I could just get a handle on the algae problem we have life would be much better all the way around.

Just curious though....why would you trust such precious creatures as fish with the mailman? Hasn't the USPS destroyed enough of your mail for you to know better?

KC0VWU

12-16-2007, 11:46 PM

Quote[/b] (k8mhz @ Dec. 15 2007,18:39)]Just curious though....why would you trust such precious creatures as fish with the mailman? Hasn't the USPS destroyed enough of your mail for you to know better?
Actually I've never had anything get lost or damaged in the mail apart from a couple letters that once went to Europe and back before getting to my PO box. This includes tons of eBay packages etc. so really it hasn't been a problem until now. In fact, despite living in the middle of nowhere, our mail is usually blazing fast. As long as they didn't get left outside somewhere there is still a chance they are okay.

W3MIV

12-16-2007, 11:53 PM

Did you know that no matter how fast a fish swims, it never sweats?

ab8ro

12-16-2007, 11:58 PM

As an empirical test of the value of faith, I've asked satan to keep your fish alive, of course, you might have to owe him one. I've also asked allah to kill your fish and turn the water into blood to show you the true power of islam. Finally, I've asked god to make sure that the water arrives at 198.6 degrees Fahrenheit. That should be easy after turning water into wine. #

If your fish arrive safely but the water is cold then you know satan is the real deal but god isn't listening.
If the water is hot and the fish are cooked then you know god is real but satan isn't, so much for all that hellfire crap.
If the water is hot and the fish are alive then both god and satan are teaming up and listening.
If the water is hot and the fish are dead then allah might be god.
If the water is blood and the fish are dead then you should visit your local mosque.

If the water is blood, hot, and the fish are alive then all three are either teaming up, or, more likely, all three are one and produce both good and evil.

If the water is cold and the fish are dead then satan doesn't care, god's not listening, and allah is incompetent.

KC0VWU

12-16-2007, 11:58 PM

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 15 2007,18:53)]Did you know that no matter how fast a fish swims, it never sweats?
Horses sweat, fish glow.

KC0VWU

12-16-2007, 11:59 PM

Quote[/b] (ab8ro @ Dec. 15 2007,18:58)]As an empirical test of the value of faith, I've asked satan to keep your fish alive, of course, you might have to owe him one. I've also asked allah to kill your fish and turn the water into blood to show you the true power of islam. Finally, I've asked god to make sure that the water arrives at 198.6 degrees Fahrenheit. That should be easy after turning water into wine.

If your fish arrive safely but the water is cold then you know satan is the real deal but god isn't listening.
If the water is hot and the fish are cooked then you know god is real but satan isn't.
If the water is hot and the fish are alive then both god and satan are teaming up and listening.
If the water is hot and the fish are dead then allah might be god.
If the water is blood and the fish are dead then you should visit your local mosque.

If the water is cold and the fish are dead then satan doesn't care, god's not listening, and allah is incompetent.
Good idea, I'll let you know how it turns out.

n2ize

12-17-2007, 12:25 AM

Quote[/b] ]
Just curious though....why would you trust such precious creatures as fish with the mailman? #Hasn't the USPS destroyed enough of your mail for you to know better?

Lots of people order fish through the mail. Particularly if you live in an area where there are no petshops nearby or, if you want a certain kind of fish that is not easilly found at the pet store.

And where do pet stores get their fish from ? Often the same way. Ordered from a pet supply warehouse and shipped via USPS, UPS, etc.

Quote[/b] ]
Now if I could just get a handle on the algae problem we have life would be much better all the way around.

Algae ? I let it grow. Some fish feed on it. If it gets too thick I'll scrape it off the glass with a razor. #It tends to grow more readilly during certain times of the year. Round here it usually grows on artificial plants, rocks and tank ornaments. When algae gets really long it actually looks kind of nice.

Quote[/b] ]
My kid has a couple fish that I have become quite fond of. #A few months ago one of them died and the remaining fish actually got heartsick and wouldn't eat, he just sat at the bottom of the tank. #

Sure ot wouldn't eat ? Lots of times they'll eat... when the lights are out and nobody is watching them. Several of my fish are never seen. #They remain hidden or buried in the sand until the lights are out and the room is dark. Then they come out to look for food.

K8MHZ

12-17-2007, 12:31 AM

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't eat since the food didn't disappear.

N7RJD

12-17-2007, 12:43 AM

The good news is that most sellers of live aquaria will use oxygen to fill the free space of the bag the fish are packed in and will use heat packs when shipping to colder climates to help avoid freezing. Not to worry, they don't use enough heat to boil the little guys (or gals) These two steps will usually provide a few extra days when they do suffer from postal fumbling. Not knocking the Postal service (I take a day off from this on Sundays) as they are typically overwhelmed this time of year so that little Johny can have his new Elmo under the tree come Christmas morning.

Best of luck, fish are great for stress relief and well worth the time involved in maintaining their habitat.

KC5CSG

12-17-2007, 01:45 AM

God, if you can hear me. Please don't let these fish suffer for too long. I also pray that when they do snuff it that they do not get sent to Mrs. Paul's. I also pray that these fish come to know you ol lord and accept you in their little fishy hearts as their lord and savior so that they may one day bask in your light above the great fish pond in the sky instead of frying to a nice golden fillet on the frying pan of hell.

Please lord, don't torture the fishies..........

Amen

Edited later: Sorry but this was just BEGGING for a comment from me. Surprised?

KC0VWU

12-17-2007, 01:56 AM

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Dec. 15 2007,20:45)]God, if you can hear me. Please don't let these fish suffer for too long. I also pray that when they do snuff it that they do not get sent to Mrs. Paul's. I also pray that these fish come to know you ol lord and accept you in their little fishy hearts as their lord and savior so that they may one day bask in your light above the great fish pond in the sky instead of frying to a nice golden fillet on the frying pan of hell.

Please lord, don't torture the fishies..........

Amen

Edited later: Sorry but this was just BEGGING for a comment from me. Surprised?
No, I'm not surprised at all. This board is teeming with a-holes.

ab8ro

12-17-2007, 02:08 AM

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Dec. 15 2007,19:45)]God, if you can hear me. Please don't let these fish suffer for too long. I also pray that when they do snuff it that they do not get sent to Mrs. Paul's. I also pray that these fish come to know you ol lord and accept you in their little fishy hearts as their lord and savior so that they may one day bask in your light above the great fish pond in the sky instead of frying to a nice golden fillet on the frying pan of hell.

Please lord, don't torture the fishies..........

Amen

Edited later: Sorry but this was just BEGGING for a comment from me. Surprised?
Which raises (not begs) the question: Does god love Mrs. Paul?

ab1ga

12-17-2007, 02:47 AM

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ Dec. 16 2007,18:14)]I have one sick tetra and 4 killifish that are lost somewhere in the mail and probably frozen by now. #I know you have problems of your own but if you wouldn't mind adding my fish to your prayers I'd sure appreciate it.
Done. Hope it helps.

KC0VWU

12-17-2007, 03:39 AM

Quote[/b] (ab1ga @ Dec. 15 2007,21:47)]Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ Dec. 16 2007,18:14)]I have one sick tetra and 4 killifish that are lost somewhere in the mail and probably frozen by now. I know you have problems of your own but if you wouldn't mind adding my fish to your prayers I'd sure appreciate it.
Done. Hope it helps.
Thanks.

W4DFW

12-17-2007, 04:34 AM

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ Dec. 15 2007,19:14)]I have one sick tetra and 4 killifish that are lost somewhere in the mail and probably frozen by now. I know you have problems of your own but if you wouldn't mind adding my fish to your prayers I'd sure appreciate it.
What did those fish do to be imprisoned by you??? If you truly cared for them, you would set them free rather than using a living creature for you own amusement.

Ok, sorry. I read this thread earlier when there were no responses and it was all I could do to not post something.

Nevertheless, it reminds me that once, my ex-wife (whom you will know if you ever meet her, she drives a broom) had a salt-water aquarium. I had spent quite a bit of time rigging up timers and various special lights to simulate the rising and setting sun.

One day she decided she wanted this really expensive fish. I think the poor bastard cost about $100.

A couple of days after fishy was enjoying his new home, said wifey decided there was too much algae growing on some rocks and got a special "solution" guaranteed to get rid of the algae.

I found fishy floating belly-up the next morning. Swell. The algae didn't bother me, but then again, that probably means something about me and the wifey, but that's another issue.

I could have at LEAST used that $100 for a nice steak dinner and a bottle of wine, but NO!!

To each his own, I guess. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

W2ILP

12-17-2007, 04:36 AM

As a Jewish Atheist who believes in not only the evolution of Darwin, but the more complex evolution of Behe, I offer the following good wishes to the lost fish(es).

May you sustain your like and may you multiply, so that many of your small fry may evolve to be more complex than you.
To the sick Tetra: May you get will enough to again flash your neon light.
To the killifish: May you survive and never be used as bait.
Amackrel

w2ilp (I Liker Purana's)...as long as they are in secure tanks.

There must be something fishy about this thread. I never heard of any religions that pray for fish. Most just pray for their daily bread.

W1GUH

12-17-2007, 05:11 AM

Quote[/b] ]Now if I could just get a handle on the algae problem we have life would be much better all the way around.

Aren't snails used for that? By eating the algea as they slither on the glass. I also remember a type of fish called, quite discriptively, an Algae Eater that had a big sucking mouth that ate the algea off the glass.

Don't know if these are compatible with the type of fish you have, tho'.

kc7jty

12-17-2007, 05:13 AM

Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ Dec. 16 2007,21:36)](I Liker Purana's)
Sounds like a mispelled ad for an Indian x rated video.

WF7A

12-17-2007, 05:23 AM

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 16 2007,14:11)]Quote[/b] ]Now if I could just get a handle on the algae problem we have life would be much better all the way around.

Aren't snails used for that? By eating the algea as they slither on the glass. I also remember a type of fish called, quite discriptively, an Algae Eater that had a big sucking mouth that ate the algea off the glass.

Don't know if these are compatible with the type of fish you have, tho'.
I think you're referring to a Plecostomus (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Plecostomus). They're great fish to have in a freshwater aquarium: very docile and will be very happy sucking algae and such off the gravel, glass, etc. They used to be around $3/each for a small one, but that was y-e-a-r-s ago. Just make sure you only have one of those guys in the tank; they get fairly territorial when two or more are in there.

W4DFW

12-17-2007, 05:30 AM

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Dec. 16 2007,01:13)]Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ Dec. 16 2007,21:36)](I Liker Purana's)
Sounds like a mispelled ad for an Indian x rated video.
Didn't you know?? Those videos are all imported from Bangladesh.

WA6MHZ

12-17-2007, 05:08 PM

Several years ago, I was at a Gala Elks Installation dinner where, for table centerpieces, they had a bowl of water with a few goldfish in them. #There were many bowls in the room, and all had a grand time. #The next day, the staff was cleaning up the mess and had collected the remaining live goldfish and put them all in one bottle. #There were about 15-20 Goldfish left. #I told them I would take them, even though I didn't have a fish tank. #But what I DID have was a cement pond. #It USED to be a swimming pool until the the piping broke and the pump died but now it was a brown and greenish Yeechy mess. #The Health Dept stocked it with Mosquito fish since this is a high vulnerabliity area for West Nile Virus! #I figured if the mosquito fish could thrive, so could the goldfish. #So they were thrown in the pool and that was that. #Yesterday I visited the pool and noticed the water level had evaporated down to about a foot deep left in the pool. #I could now see the bottom, and sure enough, there were all the goldfish. #About 14 of the original 20 survived, and had grown to about 7 inches each!!!! #These are big goldfish!!! And this is with NO food to feed them in about 5 years!!! They must be eating bugs that land on the water and the algae on the pool bottom. #I turned on the water and filled the pool back up. They look great and are thriving!!!! Maybe I ought to get some Goldfish chow and toss it in there! Wonder how big a goldfish can get?

kb2vxa

12-17-2007, 09:30 PM

You BOUGHT killies? For the price of 4 you could have bought a drop net and a few crumbs of bread would get you 40. Forget the fish, you're the one who needs prayer.

Don't wonder, golden carp or goldfish grow to fit the environment and no more. In a bowl they stay fingerlings, in an aquarium a little bigger, in the ceement pawnd a little bigger and in a lake big enough to feed a family or made into a whole lot of little cheese crackers.

N2RJ

12-17-2007, 09:34 PM

I thought the USPS said it was illegal to mail live animals?

Anyway good luck to your fish.

K8ERV

12-17-2007, 11:40 PM

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 16 2007,16:53)]Did you know that no matter how fast a fish swims, it never sweats?
Neither do dogs. Especially if they are in an aquarium--

(just another bit of trivia)

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

kq9j

12-17-2007, 11:42 PM

Over time, all the fish in my aquarium died, except for one Plecostomus. He kept the tank clean, but I wondered if he was getting enough to eat. Somebody told me about Algae Discs. They look like little pills. I just toss one in the tank every day and he is growing and thriving.

I started telling some people at work about my big Plecostomus. One girl got real friendly and excited when I told her about the pills that made my Plecostomus double in size. She said she really likes a big Plecostomus. She keeps asking if she can come over and see my Plecostomus when her husband is away.

She just moved to this country and her English is not too good.

What should I do? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

n2ize

12-17-2007, 11:49 PM

Quote[/b] (WF7A @ Dec. 16 2007,22:23)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 16 2007,14:11)]Quote[/b] ]Now if I could just get a handle on the algae problem we have life would be much better all the way around.

Aren't snails used for that? #By eating the algea as they slither on the glass. #I also remember a type of fish called, quite discriptively, an Algae Eater that had a big sucking mouth that ate the algea off the glass.

Don't know if these are compatible with the type of fish you have, tho'.
I think you're referring to a Plecostomus (http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Plecostomus). They're great fish to have in a freshwater aquarium: very docile and will be very happy sucking algae and such off the gravel, glass, etc. They used to be around $3/each for a small one, but that was y-e-a-r-s ago. Just make sure you only have one of those guys in the tank; they get fairly territorial when two or more are in there.
Pleco's may eat tank algae. #There is a difference between the Pleco and the Chinese algae eater (who don't always eat algae) Or, attach a sinker to a piece of cucumber and watch the Pleco's dissolve it.

As far as those chemicals they sell at the petshop go ... KEEP THEM OUT OF YOUR TANK !! Don't worry about the algae, LET IT GROW. If it gets too thick on the glass then #scrape some of it off.,

I've been keeping tropical fish all my life and I have learned one major lesson. The less you mess with the tank the better.

kq9j

12-17-2007, 11:56 PM

Quote[/b] (WF7A @ Dec. 16 2007,22:23)]Just make sure you only have one of those guys in the tank; they get fairly territorial when two or more are in there.
Can they really hurt each other, though? I would think watching two Plecostomi fight would be sorta like watching two NFL players trying to beat each other up in full gear, with helmets on. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

k0dxc

12-17-2007, 11:59 PM

I'll keep that in mind

KA8DKT

12-18-2007, 12:25 AM

Quote[/b] (kq9j @ Dec. 17 2007,19:42)]Over time, all the fish in my aquarium died, except for one Plecostomus. He kept the tank clean, but I wondered if he was getting enough to eat. Somebody told me about Algae Discs. They look like little pills. I just toss one in the tank every day and he is growing and thriving.

I started telling some people at work about my big Plecostomus. One girl got real friendly and excited when I told her about the pills that made my Plecostomus double in size. She said she really likes a big Plecostomus. She keeps asking if she can come over and see my Plecostomus when her husband is away.

She just moved to this country and her English is not too good.

What should I do? # # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Make sure her husband is really out of town...??

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

-gary

KC0VWU

12-19-2007, 04:59 AM

Sadly, my mail order killifish passed away. Thanks to a postal delay, they were in the box for 5 days and that is too long no matter how well packed they are.

My tetra is hanging in there but his quality of life appears to be rapidly diminishing and I'm afraid that soon I'll have no choice but to euthanize him. I've had him for about 4 years and I think that is about 100 in fish years.

N7RJD

12-19-2007, 05:15 AM

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Dec. 17 2007,09:49)]I've been keeping tropical fish all my life and I have learned one major lesson. The less you mess with the tank the better.
Amen. Don't add chemicals and you won't need charcoal to filter them back out. Let the algae grow on the sides and back, scrape it from the front glass and cover under the lights especially if you keep live plants.

My best growing fish are three upside down Syndontis catfish that I put in at less than 1" in length. They hide under the African Root Wood log and rarely come out. Once in awhile I'll drop some bloodworms in to lure them out and they are bigger each time I see them. They love hiding out but have recently been seen free swimming at the surface. I'm thinking they are finally big enough they aren't intimidated by the Clown Loaches. The Clowns love to dance at the surface of the water and talk to me, more the usual clicking sound but they really are quite animated.