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I have in my possession SEVERAL HF radios from a SK. The wife asked me to sell them for her because her husband was in 4 different hospitals and the medical bills got quite high above what the insurance covers.
Thats not the issue though,
He has several ICOM, Yaesu and Kenwood radios but he also has a Ranger RCI 2990DX radio. This radio must have been from before he got his ticket because it was all packed away. I hooked it up and it works just fine, yes it will talk on 11 meter but there is a simple electronic module inside that will disable 11 meter by just unplugging it and just let the radio operate on 10 and 12 meter only. He paid,,,,,,,,,,,,,are you sitting down?,,,,,over $600 for this thing according to the receipt.
I know I will have no problem selling his other radios but I dont know if I should sell this Ranger or even try? Like stated above, she needs money!
What would you do? What should I do?
k4avl
12-04-2007, 08:48 PM
I would try to sell it, but to someone in another country, if you can. That way it will spare us folks from another mad trucker.
Quote[/b] (k4avl @ Dec. 04 2007,13:48)]I would try to sell it, but to someone in another country, if you can. That way it will spare us folks from another mad trucker.
That radio is a little large for semi-truck usage; its case is designed to mount in a 19" rack...
W2BBQ
12-04-2007, 08:58 PM
They need the money. Sell it on ebay. The "module", is a simple jumper going over two pins. This is a radio. Stop talking about these things like they are the spawn of satan or something.
Unplug the module and sell the radio. Put the module in an envelope and write on it, "illegal 11M module removed" and include the envelope with the sale. Note that you did this when you sell it.
Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Dec. 04 2007,13:58)]Unplug the module and sell the radio. Put the module in an envelope and write on it, "illegal 11M module removed" and include the envelope with the sale. Note that you did this when you sell it.
IIRC, the module in question consists of a DIP jumper plug...like one uses to set a hard drive for master/slave operation...
KG6WOU
12-04-2007, 09:02 PM
You know, this is where I'm not clear on these types of radios:
Assuming you are a licensed Amateur Radio Operator, isn't this thing more or less legal to use on 10 and 12 meters? apart from any Echo and Roger Beep stuff? Or are they spectrally unclean enough to be prohibited from the get-go?
I'm not trying to be snarky or anything, i'm honestly curious about this question.
Personally, I'd give her a couple hundred out of my own pocket and tell her that this radio does not meet legal standards and you want to keep it as a collectors item. Then use it as a doorstop or something, or if it's legal as a CB....then you got a base station.
Quote[/b] (KG6WOU @ Dec. 04 2007,14:02)]Then use it as a doorstop or something, or if it's legal as a CB....then you got a base station.
It isn't. Which is the crux of the matter.
The only way I would use the rig on 10 or 12 is after I had it on a spectrum analyzer and thoroughly examined the output.
A71AN
12-04-2007, 09:06 PM
Ibeleive on ebay, might get a higer price depending on the bit, usually ebay is the best, so try it ,please.
WA9UAA
12-04-2007, 09:11 PM
Sell the "special jumper" on Ebay as well! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
73,
Rob WA9UAA
N8UZE
12-04-2007, 09:17 PM
Quote[/b] (w2bbq @ Dec. 04 2007,15:58)]They need the money. Sell it on ebay. The "module", is a simple jumper going over two pins. This is a radio. Stop talking about these things like they are the spawn of satan or something.
Discard the jumper then. Tell potential buyers it is 10m and 12m only.
kc4ylv
12-04-2007, 09:46 PM
you're not going to stop a CBer from buying it by removing a jumper, they know how to mod these things, so just rip the jumper out, clear your karma, and sell it as an amateur radio.
It won't matter whether you sell it with or without the mod. It will likely end up exactly the way it is now (and probably the band it was used on) anyway. Not too many hams will want it, as you can tell from the comments here. Sell it as is for what it is -- a 10 & 12m meter rig...
It's funny that lots of folks have problems with a "10/12m" rig being "opened" up, but not too many have issues with an all-band rig that is. Personally, I open every rig I own simply because IF (and that's really a big "if"), I ever end up in a spot and can't call for help because of a lousy diode in a certain spot, I deserve to be miserable. I know the chances are slim to none of that actually happening, but knowing my luck, it would. I DON'T operate on 11m (or between 10 & 11 for that matter), but I prefer to be the one to control my rig's capabilities, not let the rig's firmware do it.
ai4ep
12-04-2007, 09:59 PM
....maybe we should ask RILEY HOLLINGSWORTH.
He may have a great answer. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Dec. 04 2007,15:59)]....maybe we should ask RILEY HOLLINGSWORTH.
He may have a great answer. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I'm sure he'd say trash it. But since the folks need the $$$, I wouldn't have a problem unloading it for a fair price. If Riley has a problem with it, maybe HE'LL buy it from you. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ai4ep
12-04-2007, 10:17 PM
I dont need it or any of that cb junk in my shack.
I have a relatively simple station... bearcat 560 scanner ( mostly just to monitor 911 in the county ), a kenwood 721 dual band mobile, and a ICOM 746 pro rig with a sm-20 ICOM desk mike and the ps-125 power supply. Nothing major or fancy or worth stealing. I dont even NEED an amplifier...I figure that if YOU cant hear my 100 watt station with your superior equipment,and antenna configuration ; then the problem is in your reciever, not my transmitter.
simple , accurate and to the point.
ai4ep
dont forget the smily http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
W3MIV
12-04-2007, 10:21 PM
Not selling the rig will make little or no difference in the illegal occupation of the bands, but it may make a large difference to the needs of the widow.
Stop cavilling and sell the thing for the most you can get for her.
EI3GAB
12-04-2007, 11:48 PM
Sell it as I would, list it on ebay and request bidders to supply callsign and details before bidding. no call, just cancel the bid.
let the jumper in it as I think its also used for band region locking.
to be honest I dont see your concerns between selling this item and the other rigs, should you not worry if a CBer or Pirate grab the big babys more? I would be more worried about that than the 11m mod, its perfectly ok for a Ham to own it with or without its jumper module in place.
EI3GAB
12-05-2007, 12:05 AM
After thinking over this question it just struck a question of my own due to some of your answers.
maybe a silly question but I wont know less I ask so here goes, Do you guys over the big pond have to obtain type approval for your rigs?
Here in EI land we only need meet spurious emission standards and are free to use what ever we build or find in the trash, be it scrap, commercial or ham equipment.
Commercially produced ham gear has to be "approved for sale" which means the FCC has some process of ensuring that a representative sample meets the spectral purity regs.
"Type accepted" was the term the FCC used to approve equipment for sale in the CB and other two-way bands (I can't think of the term used now, certified?). #It's a more rigid process.
Homebrew equipment must meet the spectral purity regulations, but doesn't need to be submitted to the FCC for approval. #Amplifiers operating in the upper HF have some special regs applied to them, including homebrew amps.
KC9JIQ
12-05-2007, 12:53 AM
Quote[/b] (W6GQ @ Dec. 04 2007,13:42)]I have in my possession SEVERAL HF radios from a SK. The wife asked me to sell them for her because her husband was in 4 different hospitals and the medical bills got quite high above what the insurance covers.
Thats not the issue though,
He has several ICOM, Yaesu and Kenwood radios but he also has a Ranger RCI 2990DX radio. This radio must have been from before he got his ticket because .......
....What would you do? What should I do?
How much are ya asking? #It really means somthing to give money to a good cause, you should sell and to a Ham at that.
But I would really first off make sure it was okay with her husband, you know if he gets better and finds out that his radios are gone....understand what I'm saying.
ab9lz
12-05-2007, 01:26 AM
Quote[/b] (KC9JIQ @ Dec. 04 2007,17:53)]But I would really first off make sure it was okay with her husband, you know if he gets better and finds out that his radios are gone....understand what I'm saying.
Whats she going do, go to the cemetery and yell at the headstone... "i'm gonna sell yer frikken useless radios"
kf4vgx
12-05-2007, 01:28 AM
What would I do ?
I would never ask the viewers of QRZ "What to Do ".
Because your going to get quite a majority of different answers.
Respect the lady and her wishes,especially her right to privacy.
I don't think she would want her husbands medical bills expressed here nor discussed in open forums.
Sell the radios at her request or explain to her in private why you cant. Be her friend, she asked you to help ,not every one here.
Good luck with that .
kd5kfl
12-05-2007, 01:41 AM
Donate it to a ham radio club. To be used as a loaner to newly licensed hams.
Donate it to a high school ham radio club.
I agree with the many who say this thing won't give you leprosy if you hear it on the air. My guess is no one who hears it would be able to identify the radio.
Just so you won't have to deal with the rest of humanity and their weird hangups, donate it to some public service group and be done with it.
W5HTW
12-05-2007, 01:48 AM
I would list in on ebay as a 10-12 meter ham radio. That's it. I would not remove or add a module, or anything else. Just sell it to the highest bidder. Get the lady her money.
Ed
Quote[/b] (N0NB @ Dec. 04 2007,18:30)]///SNIP///
Amplifiers operating in the upper HF have some special regs applied to them, including homebrew amps.
Not anymore. That silly 12-10m rule went away with the last round of FCC Part 97 changes. Something about it not meaning a darned thing, since any swingin' CB'er can buy amps used...
Joe, N3JI
Thanks for the responses, the main reason I asked on here is because,
1. I didnt know if I could get in trouble selling it.
2. I cannot sell it on QRZ, according to the rules here it is not allowed!
3. I cannot sell it on EBAY because it is on some FCC hitlist and it will get pulled. I have not been able to find one that sold recently in the EBAY search.
4. See reason 1
N4AUD
12-05-2007, 08:53 PM
Sell it to a local licensed amateur just as you would the Icoms, Kenwoods and Yaesus.
W2BBQ
12-05-2007, 09:20 PM
You can try this on ebay. Offer it on a 1 day auction with a Buy It Now price. Hopefully someone will see it and take it before it gets pulled.
Getting pulled is not a guarantee. Ebay does not cruise its jillions of listings looking for problems. A member has to report it to them and then it takes a while for a rep to check it out and do anything.
Just checked. There's several RCI's on ebay right now and a RCI 5054 6 meter all mode mobile if anyone was looking for one.
Other ham sites such as eham and QTH.com may not mind you listing it there.
good luck
K9STH
12-05-2007, 09:32 PM
NB:
Commercially produced amateur radio equipment does NOT have to meet FCC approval in relation to the transmitters. The receivers on equipment operating above 30 MHz do have to meet 47 CFR Part 15 incidental radiation requirements. Those receivers operating below 30 MHz have no such requirements.
The regulations concerning transmitting amplifiers in the 25 MHz to 35 MHz range were changed about a year ago. It is now legal to market such amplifiers so long as they cannot be used on the 27 MHz Citizen's Radio Service (without being modified which, of course, it is illegal to use such an amplifier on the Citizen's Radio Service).
It is the responsibility of the individual amateur radio operator to insure that his/her equipment meets the specifications contained within 47 CFR Part 97 and is not the responsibility of the manufacturer. However, it would definitely not be good customer relations for the manufacturer to produce equipment that does not meet FCC specifications.
Glen, K9STH
I checked the current FCC list of banned radios and the 2990 is NOT on the list and apparently EBAY took notice of this as well as they are allowing them to list the radios now?
oh fyi
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-251001A1.html
wa9cwx
12-06-2007, 09:30 PM
My 2 cents.
First, I think it IS commendable that you had concerns, and asked.
Second, I WOULD put it on eBay, advertised as a 'Ham' 10 /12 rig.
Get the best price, and give her the money.
No problem, no guilt, as long as it is OK with eBay, and legal, just do it.
It is NOT as if you are setting up an illegal station for someone with an amp and 4 element quad.
You are selling a legal radio, to help a widow.
What someone ELSE does is not under your control.
Your well intentioned concerns are a reflection of your OWN morale dillema, don't make it HER problem.
She has enough to deal with right now.
Frank
hahahaha the ad was pulled from QRZ,
I know some people have tried to list those radios on Ebay. They did not make it over 24 hours without Ebay removing the ad. If you do go that way, I suggest do a BUY IT NOW. You may get lucky and get it sold before the catch it. Best of luck es Happy Holidays!!
W2BBQ
12-07-2007, 09:42 PM
Not true Brad. Check ebay for Ranger's this week.
I protest the fact that QRZ is "politely declining to host the sale, want or trade" of ANY kind of RADIO gear here. Sure it's the site's perogative to do so...it's just stupid and silly. These aren't guns, drugs, booze ect... Now they want to police a ham who is trying to help out an SK's widow. Well merry freaking Christmas everybody.