In Case Anyone Is Interested

[KA4DPO]

I think I might sell my rig first.. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/PERFECT-NOS-NIB-MATCHING-PAIR-OF-6146B-8298A-8298-TUBES_W0QQitemZ200178274745QQihZ010QQcat
egoryZ48710QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">Link</a>

[w8znx]

BUT
they have brown bases
with stunning yellow print
with the rare round getter

sounds like a sales pitch to
one of them audio fools

there is a new sucker born every min

not like there isnt
thousands of nos 6146,s out there

mac

[N8GAV]

$202 for 6146B's http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Wonder what fool wants them that bad http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[w8znx]

at that price the fool/buyer
most likely not use them
but put them on display

so he can show all his friends
the brown base, yellow print, and round getters

mac

[w6vps]

A fool and his money are soon parted ...so its said.
If someone wants them badly enough they'll pay whatever price is necessary. The buyers loss...the sellers gain and amazement for those of us who watch it happen.
73 Paul/W6VPS

[AG3Y]

Anybody hear whether 6146s will make a good AUDIO amplifier ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Ought to have an EXCELLENT top end !

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[wa9cwx]

Actually, there are four days left.....

These ARE the 'A' 6146s, not the later 'B', which were not really as rugged.

How I wish my Drake gear used these, instead of the silly, cheap at the time, sweep tubes.

How many Heath users, with gear from the 60s, wish they had 6146A finals...instead of (cheap at the time...) compactrons....

I KNOW $200 Plus sounds nuts, BUT, an old rig, run conservativly, with these tubes, will outlive the owner at this point. Compare that, to buying cheaper brand, possibly used, 6146Bs, and having to go through the hour plus job (yes, over an hour now that we are a bit older...) of taking the rig out of the case, unassembling the finals cage, reinserting, neutralizing, and reassembling and re-hooking up the radio. Maybe several times....

I too would LIKE to buy a pair of these at the prices I remember, just like gas..."Hey, boy, fill 'er up and check the tires, oil, and do a decent job on that windshield this time, and don't cross fold my green stamps, here's five bucks, keep the change, it's Christmass eve."

[n2jso]

Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Dec. 02 2007,13:42)]Anybody hear whether 6146s will make a good AUDIO amplifier ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Ought to have an EXCELLENT top end !

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I helped out with the audio system in my church when I was a teenager. The PA had 6146s (four of them, if I remember correctly).

[N2NKW]

I would be nervous about doing business with anyone who can't spell their own username correctly.

[ka0gkt]

"Bull makes the world go 'round"--Arthur Fonzarelli

"This way to the Grand Egress" -- Phineas Taylor Barnum

"Attitude is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than what people do or say. It is more important than appearance, giftedness, or skill.”--William Claude Dukenfield (AKA W.C. Fields)

73 DE KAØGKT/7

--Steve

[wa9cwx]

NKW,

Good catch ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Frank

[WA6MHZ]

6146Bs are USELESS for Heathkit users. They are impossible to neutralize and thus are worth far less than 6146As. HOW this guy found clowns to bid up to $202 is completey astounding. I have a pair of 6146Bs right here on the desk, probably just as matched, that are totaly useless!!!! I'd be thrilled to get $5 apiece!

[n9vo]

Hey only two bidders and both are his buddies I'm a bettin!!!!!!!! Check out their stats. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (N8GAV @ Dec. 02 2007,11:20)]$202 for 6146B's http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Wonder what fool wants them that bad http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
No doubt a Collins owner. Saw a 4P relay for a Collins rig selling for $50. Same Jap relay I bought for $9.

[W1GUH]

To potential boat anchor collectors...current ones know this...

6146's in boat anchor rigs are not that big a problem.


I've had many in boat anchors....


Apache....2 6146's
Valium....5 6146's
32S-3......2 6146's
Eico 720 1 6146

I didn't have to touch the 6146's in any of those rigs. The tubes just kept on keeping on with no attention. It's possible that a purist could have coaxed more power out by paying attention to the 6146's...but it'd only be an incremental improvement.

Love that tube!

[VE1IDX]

Quote[/b] (n2jso @ Dec. 02 2007,09:40)]Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Dec. 02 2007,13:42)]Anybody hear whether 6146s will make a good AUDIO amplifier ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Ought to have an EXCELLENT top end !

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I helped out with the audio system in my church when I was a teenager. #The PA had 6146s (four of them, if I remember correctly).
Gates used 6146's in the modulator driver stage to modulate a pair of 833A's in one of the very old (late 40's early 50's) BC-1 series broadcast transmitters. I used to work at a station that had one of those old beasts for a standby TX.

[K8ERV]

Now I know what I want for Christmas--

Tom K8ERV Montrose Co

[wa6itf]

Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Dec. 02 2007,11:42)]Anybody hear whether 6146s will make a good AUDIO amplifier ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Ought to have an EXCELLENT top end !

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Yes they do. Back in the mid-1960's I build two high fidelity amps using Williamson design and four 6146's, push-pull parallel for a cool 150 watts per channel per amp. The rest of the amp was a 12AX7/ECC83 input amp and cathode follower, 12AU7/ECC82 phase inverter, a pair of 6AQ5's as drivers that were DC coupled to the 6146's. The separate pre-amp / EQ feeding them was a Heathkit -- deemed the best of the era. Ran them into a pair of Warfdale WD series speakers.

Late in the '60's, when WA2INM and I were in the disco lighting and sound reinforcement business, we used them as our stage amps driving some interesting speakers that Larry designed. Each one stood about 9 feet high, 5 feet wide and 4 feet deep. The first 7 feet in front was a complete light show synced to music. The low frequency driver -- a pair of Electro Voice SRO 15's were side firing, The top two feet contained the Utah Audio A80BB1for mid range and an Altec horn high frequency driver. Each of these "Sound and Light Columns" had one of my amps bolted tightly in the base. We used a small (8 or 10 channel) Mackie mixing board -- usually fed off the house PA but could run stand alone using our mics.

If you ever visited any of the more popular NYC "disco's" of the late 1960's through early 1971 when the craze went away, you likely saw our handiwork. Either the afore mentioned "Sound and Light Columns" on rental, or one of our giant custom light shows such as the one we built and installed for the "Dynamite Disco" in Brooklyn. The "Sound and Light Columns" were also a popular holiday rental by the U.S. mission to the United Nations. They rented them -- and other "effects" from us from 1967 through 1971 -- I believe. Not sure about 72 or later as I had sold my interest and was already living in Los Angeles.

Oh yes: These columns also got rented by a number of "Off-Broadway" and "Off-Off-Broadway" productions. The one I recall was a truly bad "musical" called "Comb My Hair In The Light." Never heard of it? You are not the only one. Very few people did and even fewer came. It lasted 3 performances.

But yes -- 6146"s are good audio tubes -- especially when one bought them new -- Army surplus for $2 each at Rex Radio on Cordlandt Street. (The secret was the audio output transformers -- not the tubes.)

deWA6ITF

[WW3QB]

6146's were used in the old SAGE computer system. The SAGE system was a continental air-defense network commissioned by the U.S. military from 1963-1983. See http://www.thegalleryofoldiron.com/SAGE.HTM and scroll down for the 6146 paragraph. Apparently they were used for register storage.

[KA4DPO]

Oh great, now the Russians know about it, way to go snitch... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif



That is a great article. It's amazing the amount of engineering that went into those early computers. Even more amazing is that most 10 dollar calculators have as much computing power as that thing did.

[KD6NIG]

But....they are so....purrrrty!

I should have put off ordering that 4 piece commerative plate set, then I could afford these for display instead!

[AG3Y]

Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Dec. 03 2007,12:14)]Oh great, now the Russians know about it, way to go snitch... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif



That is a great article. #It's amazing the amount of engineering that went into those early computers. #Even more amazing is that most 10 dollar calculators have as much computing power as that thing did.
The Russians knew about tube-type electronics for years back! # Some time ago, they were buying all the Collins transceivers they could get their hands on. #Someone laughed that they would be so enamored by that "ancient technology" until word about EMP damage got around. #Then they didn't appear to be so stupid !

73, Jim

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Dec. 03 2007,09:33)]Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Dec. 03 2007,12:14)]Oh great, now the Russians know about it, way to go snitch... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif



That is a great article. It's amazing the amount of engineering that went into those early computers. Even more amazing is that most 10 dollar calculators have as much computing power as that thing did.
The Russians knew about tube-type electronics for years back! Some time ago, they were buying all the Collins transceivers they could get their hands on. Someone laughed that they would be so enamored by that "ancient technology" until word about EMP damage got around. Then they didn't appear to be so stupid !

73, Jim
All of the military's 'critical' commo gear is (and has been, for some time) EMP-hardened...

[kl7aj]

I have about 2 dozen 6146s lying around. I think I'll pass. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Dec. 03 2007,09:37)]I have about 2 dozen 6146s lying around.
But they don't have nice yellow lettering... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[AG3Y]

Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Dec. 03 2007,13:35)]Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Dec. 03 2007,09:33)]Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Dec. 03 2007,12:14)]Oh great, now the Russians know about it, way to go snitch... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif



That is a great article. #It's amazing the amount of engineering that went into those early computers. #Even more amazing is that most 10 dollar calculators have as much computing power as that thing did.
The Russians knew about tube-type electronics for years back! # Some time ago, they were buying all the Collins transceivers they could get their hands on. #Someone laughed that they would be so enamored by that "ancient technology" until word about EMP damage got around. #Then they didn't appear to be so stupid !

73, Jim
All of the military's 'critical' commo gear is (and has been, for some time) EMP-hardened...
Well, yea, NOW it is ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[W5HTW]

That's why all them ole Fender Pro amps had tube guts. We didn't want the Soviets attacking 'em.

Ed

[AB8RU]

I went and got some new tools at Sams Club Channel Lock brand #Cordless Screwdriver #/ Drill and 3 size socket set #sweet #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

as to tubes not now , I am in process of buying another vechicle #like a 4X4 # SUV #and stick in more radios # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

XYL does not know the radio part yet but she knows I have a tendency to do that heh heh heh !

[KA4DPO]

I just checked and there's no change in the bid. Come on folks these are soooo rare with pretty yellow lettering and brown bases. Who could resist such a bargain?

The best part is they're perfectly matched. Yes, they look identical. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

I still laugh every time I see this one. It reminds me of the ten thousand dollar cheese sandwich.

[n2jso]

Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Dec. 04 2007,09:32)]I just checked and there's no change in the bid. #Come on folks these are soooo rare with pretty yellow lettering and brown bases. #Who could resist such a bargain?
Don't forget the round getters. They are very rare.

[WA7KKP]

I had 10 (count them) new GE 6146B's NOS that I couldn't give away at 1/2 retail price --- pair for $30.

Had to be a CBer type with a Kenwood rig converted for 11 meters. Being stupid, they burn up finals left and right, which is the reason that TV sweep tubes have skyrocketed in value.

In all my years, I've never seen a flat 6146, and only a couple gassy ones.

Gary WA7KKP