Anyone with Aetna EPO

[W1GUH]

Especially singly....what do you pay per month...full cost, before the company contribution?

I just got the price for next year, and, after factoring in the company contribution, it runs 610.31 per month.

I know medical costs are skyrocketing, but it would be good to know that I'm paying what others are and not getting the shaft. Actually, the last time I checked, I'm paying more than Cobra rates.

Any info will be appreciated. Thanks

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Nov. 30 2007,14:31)]Especially singly....what do you pay per month...full cost, before the company contribution?

I just got the price for next year, and, after factoring in the company contribution, it runs 610.31 per month.

I know medical costs are skyrocketing, but it would be good to know that I'm paying what others are and not getting the shaft. Actually, the last time I checked, I'm paying more than Cobra rates.

Any info will be appreciated. Thanks
That is about in line with what it is here, except that you pay for the company's portion too, as they consider it a favor to give a retiree any health insurance. You personally would pay $1,200/mo under the plan for salaried retirees to maintain the minimum level of health insurance. It is really not sufficient coverage, so I am looking at better than $2,000/mo to maintain my health insurance, long-term care insurance, and disability insurance -- but I am still looking for other options.

[W1GUH]

Thanks for the information. Wow. From your words, it sounds like what I'm paying is "the norm", or maybe even a "good" price. Hard to believe, but what is, is, and I can "relax" and know the company isn't shafting me.

So....I'm going to make this political in another thread.

Thanks

[W3MIV]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Nov. 30 2007,18:31)]Especially singly....what do you pay per month...full cost, before the company contribution?

I just got the price for next year, and, after factoring in the company contribution, it runs 610.31 per month.

I know medical costs are skyrocketing, but it would be good to know that I'm paying what others are and not getting the shaft. #Actually, the last time I checked, I'm paying more than Cobra rates.

Any info will be appreciated. #Thanks
Stop yer whining. You should try it as a sole proprietor of a very small business. My contributions are both personal AND the company's contribution -- and we don't have the benefit of scale when negotiating.

[W1GUH]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Nov. 30 2007,08:00)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Nov. 30 2007,18:31)]Especially singly....what do you pay per month...full cost, before the company contribution?

I just got the price for next year, and, after factoring in the company contribution, it runs 610.31 per month.

I know medical costs are skyrocketing, but it would be good to know that I'm paying what others are and not getting the shaft. Actually, the last time I checked, I'm paying more than Cobra rates.

Any info will be appreciated. Thanks
Stop yer whining. You should try it as a sole proprietor of a very small business. My contributions are both personal AND the company's contribution -- and we don't have the benefit of scale when negotiating.
So I will. In you own unique way you're saying that what I'm paying is not out of line. And I've said to others what you say to me when THEY whine about how their active employee deductions have gone up. I appreciate your input, and I can "sorta" relax.

See the thread I started about the "free market" not working. The economies of scare are way out of whack here.

[W3MIV]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 01 2007,10:10)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Nov. 30 2007,08:00)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Nov. 30 2007,18:31)]Especially singly....what do you pay per month...full cost, before the company contribution?

I just got the price for next year, and, after factoring in the company contribution, it runs 610.31 per month.

I know medical costs are skyrocketing, but it would be good to know that I'm paying what others are and not getting the shaft. #Actually, the last time I checked, I'm paying more than Cobra rates.

Any info will be appreciated. #Thanks
Stop yer whining. You should try it as a sole proprietor of a very small business. My contributions are both personal AND the company's contribution -- and we don't have the benefit of scale when negotiating.
So I will. #In you own unique way you're saying that what I'm paying is not out of line. #And I've said to others what you say to me when THEY whine about how their active employee deductions have gone up. #I appreciate your input, and I can "sorta" relax.

See the thread I started about the "free market" not working. #The economies of scare are way out of whack here.
What you are failing to see in your other thread is the political ploys being used by Clinton to foster just the kinds of scares you felt.

A large part of the problem with health care in the US has been an excessive involvement by government, and that meddling has prevented the "free market" from working as it should.

One of the biggest aids the "government" could render to all of us, both insurers and insured, is to pass legislation mandating "loser pays" for litigation. Think ol' Shrillary would endorse that?

[W1GUH]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Nov. 30 2007,09:13)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 01 2007,10:10)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Nov. 30 2007,08:00)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Nov. 30 2007,18:31)]Especially singly....what do you pay per month...full cost, before the company contribution?

I just got the price for next year, and, after factoring in the company contribution, it runs 610.31 per month.

I know medical costs are skyrocketing, but it would be good to know that I'm paying what others are and not getting the shaft. Actually, the last time I checked, I'm paying more than Cobra rates.

Any info will be appreciated. Thanks
Stop yer whining. You should try it as a sole proprietor of a very small business. My contributions are both personal AND the company's contribution -- and we don't have the benefit of scale when negotiating.
So I will. In you own unique way you're saying that what I'm paying is not out of line. And I've said to others what you say to me when THEY whine about how their active employee deductions have gone up. I appreciate your input, and I can "sorta" relax.

See the thread I started about the "free market" not working. The economies of scare are way out of whack here.
What you are failing to see in your other thread is the political ploys being used by Clinton to foster just the kinds of scares you felt.

A large part of the problem with health care in the US has been an excessive involvement by government, and that meddling has prevented the "free market" from working as it should.

One of the biggest aids the "government" could render to all of us, both insurers and insured, is to pass legislation mandating "loser pays" for litigation. Think ol' Shrillary would endorse that?
Well, that's what makes life interesting...figuring out exactly where to supply the "solution." And it's fun to discuss that. And I do agree with "...pass legislation mandating "loser pays" for litigation. "

BTW...I saw my typo about "economies of scare." Didn't even think I should edit that out!

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[al2i]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 01 2007,07:13)]A large part of the problem with health care in the US has been an excessive involvement by government, and that meddling has prevented the "free market" from working as it should.
Which candidate(s) are saying this?

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 01 2007,08:17)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Nov. 30 2007,09:13)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 01 2007,10:10)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Nov. 30 2007,08:00)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Nov. 30 2007,18:31)]Especially singly....what do you pay per month...full cost, before the company contribution?

I just got the price for next year, and, after factoring in the company contribution, it runs 610.31 per month.

I know medical costs are skyrocketing, but it would be good to know that I'm paying what others are and not getting the shaft. #Actually, the last time I checked, I'm paying more than Cobra rates.

Any info will be appreciated. #Thanks
Stop yer whining. You should try it as a sole proprietor of a very small business. My contributions are both personal AND the company's contribution -- and we don't have the benefit of scale when negotiating.
So I will. #In you own unique way you're saying that what I'm paying is not out of line. #And I've said to others what you say to me when THEY whine about how their active employee deductions have gone up. #I appreciate your input, and I can "sorta" relax.

See the thread I started about the "free market" not working. #The economies of scare are way out of whack here.
What you are failing to see in your other thread is the political ploys being used by Clinton to foster just the kinds of scares you felt.

A large part of the problem with health care in the US has been an excessive involvement by government, and that meddling has prevented the "free market" from working as it should.

One of the biggest aids the "government" could render to all of us, both insurers and insured, is to pass legislation mandating "loser pays" for litigation. Think ol' Shrillary would endorse that?
Well, that's what makes life interesting...figuring out exactly where to supply the "solution." #And it's fun to discuss that. #And I do agree with "...pass legislation mandating "loser pays" for litigation. "

BTW...I saw my typo about "economies of scare." #Didn't even think I should edit that out!

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Medical care would be downright cheap if the government would simply butt out and let the free market do it's natural thing. You see the insurance companies want to save you money. They are not interested in getting rich and making more and more for their stockholders and especially for their CEO's/. All they want it to make sure YOU get the best health care for the lowest price imaginable. #A doctors visit might cost only 25 cents if we let the free market do it's thing. A lengthy and involved hospital stat might cost a mere $5.00 if we let the free market do it's thing. All we gots to do is stop being so greedy and get off the backs of business and everything will be cool. #In the immortal words of Alfred E Newman, "what me worry ?".

[wa8rti]

You mean let the free market work like the Bush administration when it forbid Medicare from requiring drug companies to compete for the Part D benefit? #And prevents people from importing cheaper drugs from Canada on the the excuse that the drugs may not be safe. Right!!! As long as you have a 'very' business friendly administration, you can be assured that there will be no true free market. Big business will fight tooth and nail to avoid true competition.

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ Dec. 03 2007,10:06)]You mean let the free market work like the Bush administration when it forbid Medicare from requiring drug companies to compete for the Part D benefit? And prevents people from importing cheaper drugs from Canada on the the excuse that the drugs may not be safe. Right!!!
Actually the problem with "the free market" importing drugs from Canada is that Canada is pretty much NOT the free market.

Canadian drug prices are regulated and negotiated. If we allow unlimited purchases from there, it would raise the cost for Canadians, or Canadians would block it completely.

The real solution is to have drug prices here in the USA lowered.

[W7WV]

I had them at one time. Trying to deal with their customer service was next to impossible so I dumped the company.
That was about 6 years ago.
Not unlike other companies today, their customer service folks only know how to look at a computer screen and follow the arrows.
They are either incapable of or not allowed to think on their own.