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k4kyv

11-14-2007, 09:55 AM

Who is the enemy? Who, exactly, are we fighting in Iraq? Why are we there? And what's our objective?

We aren't fighting the Sunnis. Not any more, anyway. We aren't fighting the Shia. And we certainly aren't fighting the Kurds. For decades, the Kurds have been America's (and Israel's) closest allies in Iraq. We're not exactly fighting Al Qaeda any more either. General Petraeus, Ambassador Ryan Crocker, and other authorities have pretty much declared Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) dead and buried.

So why are there still no answers to the most basic questions about the Iraq occupation?

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/67573/?page=entire

K6BBC

11-14-2007, 04:33 PM

We are fighting all that dirt and rock between us and 300 trillion dollars of oil.

bbc

N6KX

11-14-2007, 04:36 PM

Apparently, reality.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

w5klb

11-14-2007, 04:44 PM

*yawn*

KD6NIG

11-14-2007, 04:59 PM

We are fighting because da Decider says so.

How dare you even question da Decider!

KA8NCR

11-14-2007, 05:43 PM

Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,09:44)]*yawn*
Apparently you know the answer, care to answer the gentleman's question?

n2ize

11-14-2007, 05:45 PM

The kurds will probably be fighting each other soon enough. The reality is that we shouldn't be there. Let all these people slug it out with each other and let's just stay the heck out of there way.

K6BBC

11-14-2007, 05:49 PM

Quote[/b] (KA8NCR @ Nov. 14 2007,10:43)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,09:44)]*yawn*
Apparently you know the answer, care to answer the gentleman's question?
I can tell you by that response -- it is whatever JESUS tells him to think. It's that simple.

bbc

N3ATS

11-14-2007, 06:49 PM

Staying there is exactly what the "enemy" wants.

They don't have to be militarily superior. They don't have to kill a hundred of our troops a day.

All they have to do is keep us there. Keep creating disorder so we'll maintain our presence. A couple of bombs here, a couple there. Create a nice offensive once in a while just to remind us we can't be lax.

Little by little they will whittle away at us until we're bankrupt a la USSR v. Afghanistan.

At $187,500 every minute minute, how long do you think it will take?

w5klb

11-14-2007, 07:24 PM

Quote[/b] (KA8NCR @ Nov. 14 2007,10:43)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,09:44)]*yawn*
Apparently you know the answer, care to answer the gentleman's question?
Judging by the current and past responses on the subject by the far-left socialist here on Zed, I really doubt ANYONE on THIS thread would be interested in the REAL truth. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Until that changes (I'm not "holding my breath"): *YAWN*

K6BBC

11-14-2007, 07:27 PM

Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,12:24)]Quote[/b] (KA8NCR @ Nov. 14 2007,10:43)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,09:44)]*yawn*
Apparently you know the answer, care to answer the gentleman's question?
Judging by the current and past responses on the subject by the far-left socialist here on Zed, I really doubt ANYONE on THIS thread would be interested in the REAL truth. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Until that changes (I'm not "holding my breath"): *YAWN*
LOL Gary!

w5klb

11-14-2007, 07:36 PM

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Nov. 14 2007,12:27)]
LOL Gary!
Oh golly gee wow! What a "thought provoking" response Tony. Gee, how long did ya take to come up with that lame answer?

Ya gotta do better than this, "Hollywood" Tony.

K6BBC

11-14-2007, 07:42 PM

Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,12:36)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Nov. 14 2007,12:27)]
LOL Gary!
Oh golly gee wow! What a "thought provoking" response Tony. Gee, how long did ya take to come up with that lame answer?

Ya gotta do better than this, "Hollywood" Tony.
Can't, I'm on strike.

BTW, I heard yesterday the war is costing apx 21,000 per family of four. Nice Gary -- Cheney still looks pretty fat to me...

And Gary, PROJECT RUNWAY starts tonight I and I am feeling just too fabulous to be upset by anything.

bbc

w5klb

11-14-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Nov. 14 2007,12:42)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,12:36)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Nov. 14 2007,12:27)]
LOL Gary!
Oh golly gee wow! What a "thought provoking" response Tony. Gee, how long did ya take to come up with that lame answer?

Ya gotta do better than this, "Hollywood" Tony.
Can't, I'm on strike.

BTW, I heard yesterday the war is costing apx 21,000 per family of four. #Nice Gary -- Cheney still looks pretty fat to me...

bbc
Tony,

We may not agree on a lot of things, but I sincerly hope that the strike is short and that you can go back doing what you do best: entertaining the masses with your movies.

Now, about Iraq...

When this war first started, the far-left haters claimed that there wasn't enough troops on the ground and that they wanted a "time table." #Well, Bush excepted Donald Rumsfeld's resignation and appointed Gates to the Secretary Defense's position and they didn't get their "time table." (It's DANGEROUS to our troops to give the enemy that kind of information). We also got a new General whose strategy seems to be working quite well as evidenced by the drastic drop in overall deaths in Iraq. This is not to mention that the people of Iraq, with the assistance of the coalition, has pretty much made Al Qaeda a non-factor. These are things that people like YOU and others here have been clammering about for a long time. Bush has MET YOUR OBJECTIVES. But does Bush, Gates and Petraeus get a well deserved "thank you" from the far-left haters on this forum? HELL NO! Instead, they keep changing the rules. Now it's costing too much money. Soon it will something else. Gawd, the far-left hate and extreamism is stunning!

As much as I think you and your far left comrades could be a MORE GRATEFUL and celebrate our troop's success in Iraq, it seems you and your fellow far left haters #keep kicking them in the stomach by claiming in effect "it's not good enough-WE WANT MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND..." It's like there's NOTHING that our troops can do that will EVER PLEASE YOU or the FAR LEFT.

Thank you and your far-left buddies for their "support" of our troops. To you and them, "support our troops" is just cliche, something to say just to make YOU and them feel good so you can continue to make more excuses against them and their Commander in Chief or make MORE demands.

One more thing...

*YAWN*

KA8NCR

11-14-2007, 09:13 PM

N3ATS

11-14-2007, 09:49 PM

Yeah, I am interested too. Who is the enemy in Iraq?

w5klb

11-14-2007, 10:02 PM

Quote[/b] (KA8NCR @ Nov. 14 2007,14:13)]Tell me, who is the real enemy in Iraq? #If you don't mind, please tell me why we're there in the first place. #Bonus points for not bashing Democrats, socialists or people who fart in the bathtub and bite the bubbles.
We been in this war for a few years and y'all can't figure out who "the bad guys" are? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Surely you far lefties can't be that thinking impaired but I've been known to be wrong before.

Wouldn't it be better get the answer straight from a returning Iraq War Vet or is this too much like common sense? Most places have a military armory or recruiting station. Pick one and ask them for yourself. Any of those military folks would be more than happy to "educate" you about on who the know the enemy is. They have been fighting the enemy for a long time. #

Good luck. #

P.S. I would be VERY CAREFUL on how you prefaced and worded these kinds of questions. Combat Vets tend to get easily upset and you may not like ther response or their reaction if your question is worded the wrong way. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

KA8NCR

11-14-2007, 10:08 PM

Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,15:02)]Quote[/b] (KA8NCR @ Nov. 14 2007,14:13)]Tell me, who is the real enemy in Iraq? If you don't mind, please tell me why we're there in the first place. Bonus points for not bashing Democrats, socialists or people who fart in the bathtub and bite the bubbles.
We been in this war for a few years and y'all can't figure out who "the bad guys" are? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Surely you far lefties can't be that thinking impaired but I've been known to be wrong before.

Wouldn't it be better get the answer straight from a returning Iraq War Vet or is this too much like common sense? Most places have a military armory or recruiting station. Pick one and ask them for yourself. Any of those military folks would be more than happy to "educate" you about on who the know the enemy is. They have been fighting the enemy for a long time.

Good luck.

P.S. I would be VERY CAREFUL on how you prefaced and worded these kinds of questions. Combat Vets tend to get easily upset and you may not like ther response or their reaction if your question is worded the wrong way. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
So, you don't know?

K6BBC

11-14-2007, 10:20 PM

Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,15:02)]P.S. I would be VERY CAREFUL on how you prefaced and worded these kinds of questions. Combat Vets tend to get easily upset and you may not like ther response or their reaction if your question is worded the wrong way. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Now you are trying to control a fellow ham's speech? Tisk Tisk brother Gary...

bbc

W2ILP

11-14-2007, 10:37 PM

This is what I have been asking since the invasion of Iraq by US forces?

Who is the enemy?

How will we know when we have won in Iraq?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif # How do we know that we have lost?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Since we don't know who the enemy is...there is no way to be sure that all of our enemies in Iraq have surrendered or have not surrended. # How then can we stay the course to bring the war to an end if we don't know who we are supposed to be fighting...and sometimes we have to ally ourselves with one group that hates us so as to protect ourselves from another group that hates us even more. # What a revolting development!

Why the heck didn't we leave Iraq when we captured Saddam?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif # Why did we execute him before he could surrender Iraq to us and we could have given Iraq back to his party...so that they could deal with the fanatic nuts who plant road bombs themselves!

w2ilp (I Like Peace)...You can't tell your enemy without an Arabic score card...or can you?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

w5klb

11-14-2007, 10:44 PM

Quote[/b] (KA8NCR @ Nov. 14 2007,15:08)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,15:02)]Quote[/b] (KA8NCR @ Nov. 14 2007,14:13)]Tell me, who is the real enemy in Iraq? #If you don't mind, please tell me why we're there in the first place. #Bonus points for not bashing Democrats, socialists or people who fart in the bathtub and bite the bubbles.
We been in this war for a few years and y'all can't figure out who "the bad guys" are? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Surely you far lefties can't be that thinking impaired but I've been known to be wrong before.

Wouldn't it be better get the answer straight from a returning Iraq War Vet or is this too much like common sense? Most places have a military armory or recruiting station. Pick one and ask them for yourself. Any of those military folks would be more than happy to "educate" you about on who the know the enemy is. They have been fighting the enemy for a long time. #

Good luck. #

P.S. I would be VERY CAREFUL on how you prefaced and worded these kinds of questions. Combat Vets tend to get easily upset and you may not like ther response or their reaction if your question is worded the wrong way. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
So, you don't know?
I can plainly see that the "why are we there crowd" aren't smart enough to pose or form their own questions because they may be getting this question from THIS far left smear site. (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/147)

Oops.. BUSTED! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Sorry I refuse to answer any question from a FAR LEFT SOCIALIST SMEAR HATE SITE who would say such "uplifting" things about our President as this:

Quote[/b] ]As for Bush and his gangsters, let the world judge them at Nuremburg. Our North American psyche is too immature, too confined to handle this bravely with justice. Americans are wasting time on the planet externalizing our provoked fear onto whatever we may cast our eyes upon.

Or how about this gem:

Quote[/b] ]We are the enemy just as England was the enemy in 1775.

See, YOU GUYS all already had the "answers". You just wanted to trip me up in my words. I don't claim to be the sharpest tack in the box, but I knew this is what you all were doing all along.

If you all feel this that "we", meaning the Bush Administration#and MY COUNTRY that I SERVED for many years, "are the enemy," why are you asking me? You all seem to got it all figured out. If you sincerely feel this way, why not just pack your crap and LEAVE MY COUNTRY? I know a few Vets that would be MORE than happy to help you pack. Just say the word. They might even "pass the hat" for your one-way trip!#http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

You all are excused to go wipe the egg off your faces.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unclesam.gif

KB1KIX

11-14-2007, 10:53 PM

Quote[/b] (N3ATS @ Nov. 14 2007,17:49)]Yeah, I am interested too. #Who is the enemy in Iraq?
If you ask any of our men and women in uniform, I'm sure they'll say it's the person with a gun pointed right at 'em!

Not to mention with a bomb strapped on.....

Jonathan

kc7jty

11-14-2007, 11:15 PM

there's lots of bad guys over there, that's why we must stay. if we invaded Mexico there'd probably be lots of bad guys there, that's why we don't invade Mexico. The government knows how to handle these things. We can talk about it but we just don't know enough to make any sense of the whole thing.

How many bad guys do you think will turn up in Iran if we invade them? Like I say the government knows best. Halliburton, Blackwater, currency printing machine manufacturers, it's complicated but we can talk about it cause we're free.

N3ATS

11-14-2007, 11:20 PM

My goodness. You would think that even the most staunch supporters of the war in Iraq could at least name the enemy.

I guess not.

W4DFW

11-14-2007, 11:24 PM

Quote[/b] (N3ATS @ Nov. 13 2007,17:49)]Yeah, I am interested too. Who is the enemy in Iraq?
Who are killing our troops?? That's what I want to know. I mean, if there is no enemy there, 'ya know, seems to me no one should be killing our troops. With no enemy, there should be no killing, right??

(Christ Almighty, 'hep me!!)

KC2PBJ

11-14-2007, 11:28 PM

Pogo's quote: "We have met the enemy, and he is us." Poor decision on the part of our leadership and herd behavior from our Senate and Congressional elected officials have left us in the middle of a civil war where nobody wins and the body count increases daily.

N3ATS

11-14-2007, 11:31 PM

Obviously, armed people are firing at U.S. Soldiers.

But WHO are they? The Republican Guard? The Iraqi Army? Pissed off Iraqi citizens? The Michigan Militia?

Who are they? Who is their leader? Of what group do they belong?

K3XR

11-15-2007, 01:11 PM

I notice, on Iraq, #the hate America, hate the military, hate Bush types, have been quite, lately. #With the surge working, they are not to be found. #Unlike the DEMS they elect, at least they have enough sense to know when they are losing

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Article....67C7BD3 (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=5C5D4BFF-C5A8-4362-AEBE-2BF5267C7BD3)

N3ATS

11-15-2007, 05:57 PM

If your link was an attempt to answer the question regarding who the enemy is, sorry, it wasn't in there.

So, what are we up to now? Four of our regular QRZ warmongers who have yet to answer the question? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

K2WH

11-15-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Nov. 13 2007,22:55)]Who is the enemy? Who, exactly, are we fighting in Iraq? Why are we there? And what's our objective?

We aren't fighting the Sunnis. Not any more, anyway. #We aren't fighting the Shia. And we certainly aren't fighting the Kurds. For decades, the Kurds have been America's (and Israel's) closest allies in Iraq. #We're not exactly fighting Al Qaeda any more either. General Petraeus, Ambassador Ryan Crocker, and other authorities have pretty much declared Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) dead and buried.

So why are there still no answers to the most basic questions about the Iraq occupation?

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/67573/?page=entire
The fact that you do not know who the enemy is speaks volumes about why you were probably against the war in the first place and is right up there with the rest of libdom's inability to believe bad people exist (except in your own country of course) and need to be dealt with. #The fundemental flaw in your thinking is if you kill a bad guy you can go home. #Not so. #Bad guys have friends, relatives etc.

We all know who the enemy is. #It is the killers who want to bring Iraq back to the old days. #This includes the Hussein sympathizers, Al Queda in Pakistan, Syrian mercinary fighters, Afganistan sympathizers and other factions making up new names every week. #Pick a name there's probably a group there using it.

Answer this question: #Why are we still in Germany, Japan, Korea etc.? #I know you want to hear that we are bringing all our troops home from all areas of the world and let the rest of the world deal with itself. #For complete protection of the USA, a military presence needs to be maintained in many different parts of the world. #To not do so we do at our own peril. #Knowledge is power.

K2WH

kg6amw

11-15-2007, 10:35 PM

The U.S. Army and Marine Corps may well soon stabilize the Iraqi democracy once deemed lost. Or perhaps, in the manner of Vietnam between 1973-5, the public may have become so tired of Iraq - despite the improvement - that it simply wants it out of sight and out of mind. Either way, history is now being made while we sleep.

KA8NCR

11-16-2007, 01:00 AM

Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,15:44)]Quote[/b] (KA8NCR @ Nov. 14 2007,15:08)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Nov. 14 2007,15:02)]Quote[/b] (KA8NCR @ Nov. 14 2007,14:13)]Tell me, who is the real enemy in Iraq? If you don't mind, please tell me why we're there in the first place. Bonus points for not bashing Democrats, socialists or people who fart in the bathtub and bite the bubbles.
We been in this war for a few years and y'all can't figure out who "the bad guys" are? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Surely you far lefties can't be that thinking impaired but I've been known to be wrong before.

Wouldn't it be better get the answer straight from a returning Iraq War Vet or is this too much like common sense? Most places have a military armory or recruiting station. Pick one and ask them for yourself. Any of those military folks would be more than happy to "educate" you about on who the know the enemy is. They have been fighting the enemy for a long time.

Good luck.

P.S. I would be VERY CAREFUL on how you prefaced and worded these kinds of questions. Combat Vets tend to get easily upset and you may not like ther response or their reaction if your question is worded the wrong way. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
So, you don't know?
I can plainly see that the "why are we there crowd" aren't smart enough to pose or form their own questions because they may be getting this question from THIS far left smear site. (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/147)

Oops.. BUSTED! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Sorry I refuse to answer any question from a FAR LEFT SOCIALIST SMEAR HATE SITE who would say such "uplifting" things about our President as this:

Quote[/b] ]As for Bush and his gangsters, let the world judge them at Nuremburg. Our North American psyche is too immature, too confined to handle this bravely with justice. Americans are wasting time on the planet externalizing our provoked fear onto whatever we may cast our eyes upon.

Or how about this gem:

Quote[/b] ]We are the enemy just as England was the enemy in 1775.

See, YOU GUYS all already had the "answers". You just wanted to trip me up in my words. I don't claim to be the sharpest tack in the box, but I knew this is what you all were doing all along.

If you all feel this that "we", meaning the Bush Administration and MY COUNTRY that I SERVED for many years, "are the enemy," why are you asking me? You all seem to got it all figured out. If you sincerely feel this way, why not just pack your crap and LEAVE MY COUNTRY? I know a few Vets that would be MORE than happy to help you pack. Just say the word. They might even "pass the hat" for your one-way trip! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

You all are excused to go wipe the egg off your faces.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unclesam.gif
You continue to miss the point of the question. I'm not interested in reading what these sites have to say, I've already dismissed them, as you have, as utter nonsense.

I want to hear from you who the enemy is. Your dancing around the question makes me think that:

A) You don't know
B) You are not quite sure of your convictions
C) You simply don't want to defend your convictions here on QRZ.

I know C isn't the case, so is it A or B, or why are you sparing a simple paragraph of who the enemy is in Iraq? No nonsense about liberals or socialists, just tell me who we're fighting in Iraq. I'm not interested in debating it or proving you wrong, I'm likely not even to reply. But I am interested in who you think we are fighting there.

W2ILP

11-16-2007, 02:54 AM

If the enemy represented a nation...that nation could be forced to surrender and that nation would have to cease all of its military operations...BUT we are not fighting a nation...we are according to our president fighting a "war on terror". This makes no sense because we can be terrorized as long as we think we are being terrorized. Since there are many "terrorists" we can never get any to surrender for all of them. Some say we are really fighting a Religious War...but it is politically incorrect to fight religious wars...and impossible to get all members of any religion to surrender to those of other religions. In truth most terrorists may be suicidal Muslim fanatics. In truth ...they are the enemy. I never said that there was no enemy...but I will say that there is no enemy which can surrender according the conventional articles of war.

w2ilp (I Like Peace)...It is time to leave Iraq.

kc7jty

11-16-2007, 04:30 AM

how then, will we know when the war is over?

AE6IP

11-16-2007, 06:44 AM

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Nov. 15 2007,21:30)]how then, will we know when the war is over?
when we see the helicopters departing the US embassy.

KA8NCR

11-16-2007, 04:15 PM

Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Nov. 15 2007,23:44)]Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Nov. 15 2007,21:30)]how then, will we know when the war is over?
when we see the helicopters departing the US embassy.
Very straight and to the point.

al2i

11-16-2007, 05:27 PM

Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Nov. 15 2007,22:44)]Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Nov. 15 2007,21:30)]how then, will we know when the war is over?
when we see the helicopters departing the US embassy.
I hope you are wrong, but I fear you are right.

k9kxq

11-16-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Nov. 15 2007,08:11)]I notice, on Iraq, #the hate America, hate the military, hate Bush types, have been quite, lately. #With the surge working, they are not to be found. #Unlike the DEMS they elect, at least they have enough sense to know when they are losing

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Article....67C7BD3 (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=5C5D4BFF-C5A8-4362-AEBE-2BF5267C7BD3)
I notice! three "HATES" in one sentence! reality is you and your types are the haters, get lost in the traffic in downtown Bagdad...

I'm sick and tired of looking at your hate this and hate that, do you hate yourself as well, what you need is a long vacation in a one room hotel with padded walls and plenty of meds so you can't hurt yourself or anyone else... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

kxq

KD6NIG

11-16-2007, 06:32 PM

I believe that honestly, we have reached the point where the enemy is simply our presence.

Obviously though the people currently "in power" in Iraq though know that if we leave, they won't be able to control the country, and will likely be executed in a second by whoever manages to gain control.

I'm sorry to say it, but I equate it as us being a peacekeeping force being used by the new government to ensure they hold onto power. If we leave, we know and they know it will be a bloodbath.

But, since we went in and removed the power structure and government they had previously, we're kinda...sorta...obligated to also.

By stopping Saddam, I think we made the can much bigger. Not that Saddam was a saint by any means, but I think making him work in line with our thinking would have been a better choice. But who knows http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Anyone can play monday morning quarterback after the games have already been played http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

k9kxq

11-16-2007, 07:16 PM

The only way we are leaving Iraq is if our newly elected President and Congress drafts and signs a bill to do so...

We are in Iraq for one purpose, and that's OIL , right now Halliburton is building a multi million dollar embassy, in the northern part of Iraq Halliburton is constructing an enormous military base, we are there and will stay there with the present type of politics...

kxq

K2WH

11-16-2007, 07:31 PM

Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 16 2007,08:16)]The only way we are leaving Iraq is if our newly elected President and Congress drafts and signs a bill to do so...

We are in Iraq for one purpose, and that's OIL , right now Halliburton is building a multi million dollar embassy, in the northern part of Iraq Halliburton is constructing an enormous military base, we are there and will stay there with the present type of politics...

kxq
Oh please ! #We should stay there permanently just like Germany, Japan, Korea etc. #Why? #OIL for one thing. #You act like you don't use oil. #The world economy is based upon the availability of and free flow of oil.

I'll tell you one thing, people like you, the war dissenters the ones screaming we are at war for oil (which we are not), will be one of the first to demand we go get it if it was cut off by the mideast cartels. #We are there to stabilize a very important region of the world and to maintain a presence, a military presence. #This is where most of the worlds oil is located. #Russia has its own oil, South America, Africa etc. #We have oil, but we're not allowed to get it because of politics and a plethora of green groups.

When you can't drive or heat your home, you'll be up front with the deer in the headlights look asking where's the oil and go get me some. #I see right through you and your political BS. #Why don't you admit it you want oil, you need oil and if we have to go get it, you'll OK the military to go get it, anyway possible.

K2WH (Neocon)

K6BBC

11-16-2007, 08:00 PM

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 16 2007,12:31)]Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 16 2007,08:16)]The only way we are leaving Iraq is if our newly elected President and Congress drafts and signs a bill to do so...

We are in Iraq for one purpose, and that's OIL , right now Halliburton is building a multi million dollar embassy, in the northern part of Iraq Halliburton is constructing an enormous military base, we are there and will stay there with the present type of politics...

kxq
Oh please ! We should stay there permanently just like Germany, Japan, Korea etc. Why? OIL for one thing. You act like you don't use oil. The world economy is based upon the availability of and free flow of oil.

I'll tell you one thing, people like you, the war dissenters the ones screaming we are at war for oil (which we are not), will be one of the first to demand we go get it if it was cut off by the mideast cartels. We are there to stabilize a very important region of the world and to maintain a presence, a military presence. This is where most of the worlds oil is located. Russia has its own oil, South America, Africa etc. We have oil, but we're not allowed to get it because of politics and a plethora of green groups.

When you can't drive or heat your home, you'll be up front with the deer in the headlights look asking where's the oil and go get me some. I see right through you and your political BS. Why don't you admit it you want oil, you need oil and if we have to go get it, you'll OK the military to go get it, anyway possible.

K2WH (Neocon)
Very true -- I only wish our president was as candid.

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k9kxq

11-16-2007, 08:10 PM

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 16 2007,14:31)]Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 16 2007,08:16)]The only way we are leaving Iraq is if our newly elected President and Congress drafts and signs a bill to do so...

We are in Iraq for one purpose, and that's OIL , right now Halliburton is building a multi million dollar embassy, in the northern part of Iraq Halliburton is constructing an enormous military base, we are there and will stay there with the present type of politics...

kxq
Oh please ! #We should stay there permanently just like Germany, Japan, Korea etc. #Why? #OIL for one thing. #You act like you don't use oil. #The world economy is based upon the availability of and free flow of oil.

I'll tell you one thing, people like you, the war dissenters the ones screaming we are at war for oil (which we are not), will be one of the first to demand we go get it if it was cut off by the mideast cartels. #We are there to stabilize a very important region of the world and to maintain a presence, a military presence. #This is where most of the worlds oil is located. #Russia has its own oil, South America, Africa etc. #We have oil, but we're not allowed to get it because of politics and a plethora of green groups.

When you can't drive or heat your home, you'll be up front with the deer in the headlights look asking where's the oil and go get me some. #I see right through you and your political BS. #Why don't you admit it you want oil, you need oil and if we have to go get it, you'll OK the military to go get it, anyway possible.

K2WH (Neocon)
Oh PLEASE!, you contradict yourself in the first paragraph of your post and that's not the first time you've done that.

We have plenty of oil here, so what's your bitch that I stand on "we are there for the oil" it's the truth, first it was WMD's then liberation, then to police for the installed government by us, how many more lame excuses do you have, with all the money we have spent we could develop some other source of energy, but that wouldn't be good for big oil business and Halliburton now would it...

The surge is working? 2007 deadliest year since the start of this disaster, people like you are the ruination of our great country, give up liberty to be secure, we were warned of this over 200 years ago...

Go play in the traffic where you can do some good, I'll give you a push if you need it...

kxq

KA7RRA

11-16-2007, 08:17 PM

Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Nov. 14 2007,02:55)]Who is the enemy? Who, exactly, are we fighting in Iraq? Why are we there? And what's our objective?
We are fightting the week democratic goverment

k9kxq

11-16-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote[/b] (KA7RRA @ Nov. 16 2007,15:17)]Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Nov. 14 2007,02:55)]Who is the enemy? Who, exactly, are we fighting in Iraq? Why are we there? And what's our objective?
We are fightting the week democratic goverment
Did you mean this week? who will we fight next week?

kxq