Paul Tibbets died !

[SP2EEF]

2 days ago at November 1, 2007 world medias passed, that died
USA General Paul Worfield Tibbet having 92 years old. Paul
Tibbets was a commander of airplane Enola Guy - B -29s which dropped the atomic bomb named "Little Boy"
on Hiroshima on August 6, 1945.
Some Ham's write on their www page, that Paul was radio amateur and his callsign was K4ZVZ.
Someone know Paul's or someone had QSO with him and remember him ?
I apologize for my bad English.
Thank you.

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] ]Tibbets died in his Columbus, Ohio, home on November 1, 2007, at age 92. He had suffered small strokes and heart failure in his final years and had been in hospice care. Tibbets laid down in his will that there should be no funeral service after his death and no headstone for fear this might lead to demonstrations at his grave. He wanted to ensure that his resting place could never be a pilgrimage site for opponents of the use of nuclear weapons. Tibbets wanted to be cremated, ao do to nd have his ashes dispersed into the waters of the English Channel.
I think it is so cool that with his cremation and ashes spread, he robbed the anti-war/anti-nuke movement of any ability to do to him in death what they could not do to him in life. Drag him into their subterfuge.

He actually autographed a picture of himself standing next to the Enola Gay that I have. He always maintained that dropping the bomb was necessary, his job, and he never equivocated. Two independent documentaries made in the past 10 years confirm that without the bomb drops, the war would have continued killing several million Japanese and 500K allies.

Even after the bombs were dropped, Japanese military leaders did not want to quit the war. The bomb had however convinced the Emperor of Japan that continuation of the war would kill too many Japanese citizens. As a "god" in Japanese culture, the Emperor's order to stop the war and surrender was binding on the military (who still plotted in the background to kill him so the war could be continued).

[ZD7X]

Should be interesting how God would/will judge him if the after life exists.


Tom ZD7X

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (ZD7X @ Nov. 03 2007,05:45)]Should be interesting how God would/will judge him if the after life exists.


Tom ZD7X
Either way, War is hell.

[K8YZK]

Paul was a truly honorable man, who did not lose sleep over what he did. He did it because he knew more would die if the Allies had to invade the home island.
A lot of people thought he should apologize for dropping the bomb, but said he had nothing to apologize for.

I think GOD was waiting for him with open arms.

[N8CPA]

I consider him a hometown hero, because he settled and died here. I knew he helmed Executive Jet Aviation. And I read many interviews with him. But I never knew he was a ham.

I knew his commander was, Gen. Curtis Le May, who graduated from Columbus South High School--though, I don't know his call sign. In fact, his acceptance of the VP spot with Wallace was dispruptive at both his Alma Mater and mine, because mine was opened to take overflow from his. And the majority of students at my HS were black.
A very uncomfortable time for all students, regardless of race.

But Paul Tibbets saved far more lives than he erased. If the surrender had not been forced, it would have taken a land occupation of Japan to end the war. And the civilian population, even children, were being mobilized to fight to the death in that event. So, some of those alive today to curse his name are here because of him, Enola Gay, Little Boy, and Fat Boy. Without him and them, some parent, grandparent, or greatgrandparent of today's protestor might have died in childhood.

Tibets did what he had to do. God bless him for recognizing that he had to.

[A71AN]

I have visited Hiroshima and stood next to the main house of intelegent service where the bomb dropped, I have also so the meuzium where sign of the damge to people left for other generations to remember.

War never been necessary, for any nation and when some one says it was necessary, its only to cover up the real reasons behind it.

I hope we all live in peace, die in peace and not into pieces.

73

[N8CPA]

We all hope to live in peace, friend.

But I have been to Pearl Harbor. I have seen the 'Tears of the Lost' bubble up from the USS Arizona. The Japanese emissaries had promised Secretary Hull that Hirohito and Tojo wanted peace.

When I visited London thirty five years ago, there were still bombed out ruins with warning signs to "Keep out! Unexploded ordinance," I suspect, because the technology to pinpoint and defuse German bombs remotely did not yet exist. The British had been promised by Chamberlain that Hitler wanted peace.

Peace is a wonderful thing to want. But the old Roman maxim, "If you want peace, prepare for war," ever applies. Because someone is always evaluating your weakness, and regards your peaceful pursuit as weakness and vulnerability to his will.

We weren't ready for Dec 5, 1941. But Tibbets was ready for August 6, 1945. May he rest in Peace.

[K9STH]

CPA:

Methinks you mean December 7, 1941, and not "December 5, 1941". December 5, 1941, was a Friday and the United States was still "at peace" and definitely unaware of the pending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

Glen, K9STH

[N8CPA]

Quote[/b] (K9STH @ Nov. 03 2007,11:59)]CPA:

Methinks you mean December 7, 1941, and not "December 5, 1941". #December 5, 1941, was a Friday and the United States was still "at peace" and definitely unaware of the pending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

Glen, K9STH
Absolutely Dec 7, 1941. Dec 5 is an important personal date for me and sometimes it creeps into my December dates, from a corner of my subconscious. If I make a dating error regarding December that's the date I'll write.

[SP2EEF]

I am sorry friends !
I had not intention to cause discussion on political or ethical subjects.
I wanted to know only, was Paul Tibbets REALLY ham and someone older ham can to confirm this.
Maybe someone know him personally and has his QSL card.
Some Ham's write on their www page, that Paul Tibbets was radioamateur and his callsign was K4ZVZ.
For example, here is information about famous ham's on the world:
http://digilander.libero.it/mondoradiomania/VIP/vip.htm

[KA4DPO]

There's no need to appologise. GEN Tibbets was a great patriot who did what he had to do. There will always be some who will say it was wrong but it's not for us to say, only to say he was a man of honor and courage.

By the way, your english is very good, much better than my Polish..

[KC0OFZ]

Quote[/b] (SP2EEF @ Nov. 03 2007,11:45)]I am sorry friends !
I had not intention #to cause discussion #on political or ethical #subjects.
I wanted to know only, #was #Paul Tibbets # REALLY #ham #and # #someone # older #ham #can to confirm this.
Maybe someone know him personally and has his QSL card.
Some Ham's write on their www page, that Paul #Tibbets was radioamateur #and #his #callsign was K4ZVZ.
For example, #here #is information about famous #ham's #on the world:
http://digilander.libero.it/mondoradiomania/VIP/vip.htm
No need to say you are sorry about anything. Gen Tibbets was a man who had a job to do and did it. The malcontents who say otherwise are simply persons who could never give or do what it takes for anything. Thanks to Gen Tibbets and the rest of the brave men and women who give us our freedom through their efforts. The malcontents would do well to remember this as well too. They are not the reson we enjoy the freedom we do today.

Rest in peace Gen Tibbets and God speed. Thanks for all you did and stood for!!

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (a71an @ Nov. 03 2007,07:57)]War never been necessary, for any nation and when some one says it was necessary, its only to cover up the real reasons behind it.

I hope we all live in peace, die in peace and not into pieces.

73
Tell that to all the "pieces" from 9/11 and convince all the wack jobs in your area of the world of your beautiful words. You've got your job cut out for you. I mean no disrespect to you personally.

[W4HAY]

Quote[/b] ]I had not intention to cause discussion on political or ethical subjects.
Don't worry about it! We ZEDers can turn a discussion over the various types of BBQ sauces into a knock-down-drag-out Democrat/Republican/liberal/conservative/socialist/capitalist dogfight! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[KI4NGN]

Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Nov. 03 2007,05:42)]Two independent documentaries made in the past 10 years confirm that without the bomb drops, the war would have continued killing several million Japanese and 500K allies.
Exactly!

And back then Truman and all of the senior military knew this and made the correct decision.

It has always infuriated me when people talk about the "horror" of that bomb. That is such a pretentious, self-righteous, unmitigated load of unreality.

We were at war, a war that we didn't start, a war that was killing hundeds of thousands of our citizens. The atrocities committed by the Japanese in all of the countries they invaded are well documented. Hell, the Japanese people, not just the military, more or less considered all non-Japanese peoples as less than human, beneath consideration.

Years later we have these idiots condemning the use of the bomb: the horror of it. How could anyone put on blinders so narrowing their vision, almost to a pin-point? I have nothing against the Japanese people, nor the Germans. They learned a hard lesson that some of the extremist countries in this world would be well advised to heed.

Tibbets was a soldier, doing his job, and no one should do anything less than honor him for having served his country.

[N9LCD]

Strange! You never hear any bitching about the Tokyo fire raids. The current thought is that up to 250,000
Japanese died 9 March 1945.

I've never heard anybody who lived through the Japanese occupation of their homeland bitch about the Bomb. It's usually: "Why didn't you have more and sooner?"

If we had to invade Japan, they would literally have been waiting for us! Many years after the Watr ended, DoD finally admitted that the Japanese were WITHIN 8 MILES of identifying the landing beach for Operation Olympic. No, not espionage but just good intelligence work!

JERRY

N9LCD

[ka0sog]

I just buried my Dad two weeks ago. He was a Navy Seabee with the 146th NCB. He hit Omaha Beach just below Pointe du Hoc where his unit was to assemble pipelines for water, fuel and oil down the Mulberry harbour. After that bit they pulled him stateside and then shipped him out to the Pacific theatre where he was in on the invasion of Okinawa going in right along with the marines to work on the airfield. He was on Okinawa when Tibbet's did is duty. That probably saved my Dad from his third invasion on the Japaneese mainland. Among the hundreds of thousands Mr. Tibbets probably saved, count my Dad among them. Thanks Mr. Tibbets; Godspeed.

[A71AN]

Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Nov. 03 2007,15:20)]Quote[/b] (a71an @ Nov. 03 2007,07:57)]War never been necessary, for any nation and when some one says it was necessary, its only to cover up the real reasons behind it.

I hope we all live in peace, die in peace and not into pieces.

73
Tell that to all the "pieces" from 9/11 and convince all the wack jobs in your area of the world of your beautiful words. #You've got your job cut out for you. I mean no disrespect to you personally.
First I am sorry for all of those people who lost their life in part of doing their duties, it not a happy moment when some one pass away, but sad.

I do not like palatics at all, but I like to see the whole world in peace, for me and for others.

I understand this is a very hard to acheive but if the well is there and the good people with peaceful intentions are there, there is nothing impossible for man kind to acheive.

If we had to prepare for war to establish peace, why we dont prepare for peace to istablish a good well amoung us all.

I wish you all peace and joy, regardless of nationalities and or beleives and I do mean this as inside me I only keep good well for all.

73 my friend

[ky5u]

My best wishes to you too my friend.

[K4KWH]

I have an email from General Tibbets that I have kept for a number of years. # Mostly we talked about ham radio stuff and how he was not really active anymore.

I have always considered him a real hero and it is these people from WWII that I most admire. I also have a letter and autograph from General Mark Clark when he was president of the Citadel.

I hope to travel to Peal Harbor in December 2008. I don't care about the beaches, the hula girls (well.....a little; I ain't dead YET! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ), but I want to stand on the Arizona and say, in my own way, "Thank you for your sacrifice" so I could live my life in the greatest nation that ever was"! For those who don't agree, well, you'll just have to tolerate it, so flame away.

My other way of saying "thanks" is, when the first Hondas and Volkswagens started coming into the US, I decided at the age of 18 that I would NEVER buy a Japanese car. #EVER! I know, I know full well that American brands are built in overseas plants, and failing that, full of Japanese parts. I also know that Tore-up-yotas are built in the US. #I have never bought one, I will likely DIE not ever having owned one. #That isn't much, but I wonder how those people sleeping eternally inside the Arizona would feel if they could speak about japanese cars? To me, it is a slap in the face to every American that fought in that war, to every American that struggled to stay upright on the Bataan Death March, and even to the British and American prisoners that labored to build the Bridge over the River Kwai! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif Those people were the most brutal of all, surpassing even the Germans when it came to outright cruelty. #
Again, no one has to agree with me; I'm just one guy whose opinions and actions don't amount to much. #But if everybody in the US didn't buy the japanese cars, there would still be a Hudson, or a Packard, or a Studebaker (which is actually trying to be revived according to their website!) #Me, I'll be driving a Chevrolet! #My Chevys have always given me good service up to and beyond 200,000 miles (and made good radio platforms). #My S-10 (10 years old) has 170,000 miles and the only things I have ever done are wear items. It is all original except for those normal wear things. #What else could I ask for? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # We are giving away everything WWII was for by sending our work to China and buying everything based on simple price. #We need to be supporting ourselves. #Not Honda or Tore-up-yota!!

73

[k7dlx]

Yes, Paul W. Tibbets was a ham - and you got his call right. K4ZVZ.

From what I can tell on the Vanity HQ site for that call, he let it expire sometime in the late 90s. It is now owned by a Susan Cour of Superior Township, MI - issued as a vanity call in 2004.

Appropriately enough, General Tibbets was a General class operator.

[kb2vxa]

Hi all,

Look on the bright side! Tibbets was but one man, Little Boy was but one bomb. At the close of the war he was not alone, overall we bombed the living crap out of Japan, brought about a shameful surrender and placed the country under martial law. How would you feel if somebody did that to YOU?

Praise the Japanese for their forgiveness and love them for their friendship. Now there's the other side of the coin, ruminate on it for a while.

Now wait a minute Nellie!
"We need to be supporting ourselves. Not Honda or Tore-up-yota!!"
Clue for the clueless; Who is the largest employer in Middletown New York? Toyota, that's who! When GM closed the doors Toyota opened them again and built my Turcell on the very same line my Impala was built on 12 years earlier and the Toy lasted a LOT longer. Now who is supporting WHO? As I see it Toyota is employing a lot of American workers GM failed and when we can do as well by producing a comparable or better yet a superior product at competitive prices we can pick up our own horn and blow it.

Oh, before you can blow you have to polish the brass. That means rethinking the agenda, rethinking the whole transportation industry. We're going nowhere with dinosaur technology burning dinosaur fuel soon to be depleted. On to another discussion about alternative fuels and alternative technology.

Burn your poots today, our noses will thank you tomorrow. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[A71AN]

Quote[/b] (K4KWH @ Nov. 03 2007,21:49)]I have an email from General Tibbets that I have kept for a number of years. # Mostly we talked about ham radio stuff and how he was not really active anymore.

I have always considered him a real hero and it is these people from WWII that I most admire. I also have a letter and autograph from General Mark Clark when he was president of the Citadel.

I hope to travel to Peal Harbor in December 2008. I don't care about the beaches, the hula girls (well.....a little; I ain't dead YET! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ), but I want to stand on the Arizona and say, in my own way, "Thank you for your sacrifice" so I could live my life in the greatest nation that ever was"! For those who don't agree, well, you'll just have to tolerate it, so flame away.

My other way of saying "thanks" is, when the first Hondas and Volkswagens started coming into the US, I decided at the age of 18 that I would NEVER buy a Japanese car. #EVER! I know, I know full well that American brands are built in overseas plants, and failing that, full of Japanese parts. I also know that Tore-up-yotas are built in the US. #I have never bought one, I will likely DIE not ever having owned one. #That isn't much, but I wonder how those people sleeping eternally inside the Arizona would feel if they could speak about japanese cars? To me, it is a slap in the face to every American that fought in that war, to every American that struggled to stay upright on the Bataan Death March, and even to the British and American prisoners that labored to build the Bridge over the River Kwai! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif Those people were the most brutal of all, surpassing even the Germans when it came to outright cruelty. #
Again, no one has to agree with me; I'm just one guy whose opinions and actions don't amount to much. #But if everybody in the US didn't buy the japanese cars, there would still be a Hudson, or a Packard, or a Studebaker (which is actually trying to be revived according to their website!) #Me, I'll be driving a Chevrolet! #My Chevys have always given me good service up to and beyond 200,000 miles (and made good radio platforms). #My S-10 (10 years old) has 170,000 miles and the only things I have ever done are wear items. It is all original except for those normal wear things. #What else could I ask for? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # We are giving away everything WWII was for by sending our work to China and buying everything based on simple price. #We need to be supporting ourselves. #Not Honda or Tore-up-yota!!

73
There is no harm to try a Japanies car, they are well made as there is no harm for me to use American made car here.

The world is so connected, other wise every one of us must deal with the world on his own way, back to the junkle world and not the civilized one.

I can never even think of this, as it is not nice for millions of outsiders, many Americans, making a great living here which they can not afford in their own countries.

In A7 land we been rised to love and care for others , and we use American car , I hope your thoughts, remains yours and do not effect our future genrations in this part of the world by reading this, as I do not like that coming genration to think your way.

I have a lot of great American friends as well as Japanies, I used to QSO with them and meet them in person, they all the same , both races have eyes and noses. If I am not mistaken they are all called Human!, good and evil is inside every one of us, we have to learn how to control it and make the best of it, I beleive the Education level of a person, makes the different.


No hard feelings my friend, I just thought, there are much better things in this world than just a GM or a Toyota cars.


Love you, all


My best regards.


73

[PA5COR]

Strange how your perception about the A bomb on Japan changes if you were not occupied like Holland under the Germans, our overseas colonies and Dutch soldiers were tortured along with all other people.

For me the 2 bombs were an speedy end to an war and regime that was pure evil.
Till today the Japaneese government does not acknowledge the attrocities the Japaneese army and government committed to armed forces, and civilians...

At least the Germans and their government did acknowledge that, and visiting Germany often, most people still are ashamed when WW2 comes up.

I lost familymembers, executed for beeing active in the uderground movement against the Germans, reading the last letter from an uncle from 1944 out of his cell before he was excecuted the next morning will set your mind straight about an ending of the war, by all means.

Do i hate Germans.Japaneese? no, not the ordinary man/woman in the street, but i do hate any government wich has or will act as the German/Japanese did, or wich till today still doesn't reckognise the committed warcrimes.

We tend to forget history, but we have enough examples that history repeats itsself, if we forget history, or don't care what happens in the world, it WILL happen again.

It is easy judging actions 60 years later, specially if you were not born then, or were active in the Army then.

On the 4th of May we as peopleevery year remember the people that died in the war, civillians, Allied forces etc.
I attend every year here at our local church, where the remains are burried from 4 allied pilots that gave their life for our freedom.

|For the doubters, visit one of the concentration camps, or visit the Birma traintracks.....
You might just change your mind if you are faced with reality..

73,

Cor

[KI4NGN]

Quote[/b] (kb2vxa @ Nov. 03 2007,23:13)]Hi all,

Look on the bright side! Tibbets was but one man, Little Boy was but one bomb. At the close of the war he was not alone, overall we bombed the living crap out of Japan, brought about a shameful surrender and placed the country under martial law. How would you feel if somebody did that to YOU?

Praise the Japanese for their forgiveness and love them for their friendship. Now there's the other side of the coin, ruminate on it for a while.
I have nothing against Japan. It's not the same country with the same view of the world that it had then, and there is much about the Japanese people that I admire and respect.

Having said that...to your post.

Hmmm... let's see.... imagining that my country is Japan: My country invading other countries, killing, imprisoning and torturing its citizens. During this aggression, believing that other peoples are beneath contempt and hence my treatment of them, my country executes a surprise attack on yet another country. That country turns out to have the will-power and resources to not only resist my country's aggression, but through great sacrifice to turn the tide of my country's advances. My country, though obvious to all that its aggression has been checked and that the war is lost, is willing to continue fighting and sacrificing the lives of every man, woman, and child rather than surrender as long as my country exacts a tremendous cost on those who have stopped us.

Suddenly two bombs are dropped that show my country will pay the same price for not surrendering, but that its not going to cost those against us any more lives.

Shamefully, disgracefully, my country surrenders.

How would my country feel if somebody did that to us?

Beaten and ashamed.

And you say that we should praise them for their forgiveness?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif? This is the other side of the coin that you say we should consider?

Their forgiveness? For what? Their forgiveness for not letting their entire country commit suicide while taking hundreds of thousands of Americans lives with them?

I'll tell you how I would feel if Japan was my country: I'd feel damn lucky and greatful that only two bombs were dropped!

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (KI4NGN @ Nov. 04 2007,03:37)]Suddenly two bombs are dropped that show my country will pay the same price for not surrendering, but that its not going to cost those against us any more lives.

Shamefully, disgracefully, my country surrenders.

How would my country feel if somebody did that to us?

Beaten and ashamed.
When you see the young Jap tourists at Pearl Harbor posing like MTV performers in front ot the names on the Arizona Memorial like I saw, wide toothy grins pointing at the names....

I know in my heart we should forgive and forget, and that will probably come when the children of the war vets pass on.

[N8GAV]

Quote[/b] (SP2EEF @ Nov. 03 2007,05:15)]2 days ago #at #November 1, 2007 #world #medias passed, #that #died
USA General Paul Worfield Tibbet # having #92 #years old. #Paul
Tibbets # was a commander of airplane Enola Guy - B -29s which dropped the atomic bomb named #"Little Boy"
on Hiroshima on #August 6, 1945.
Some Ham's write on their www page, that Paul was radio amateur #and #his callsign was #K4ZVZ.
Someone know #Paul's or someone #had QSO with him and remember him #?
I apologize for my bad English.
Thank you.
I had the honor of meeting Gen. Tibbets in 1980. I was visiting famliy in Columbus Ohio and he live two doors down from them,and they had invited him and his wife over for the cookout we were having. I seen a Tri-bander and a tower in the backyard of a home and asked "Who was the ham two doors down?"My Aunt said "Oh that belongs to Paul he is into radios I think he is a ham like you. " An hour latter I met Paul and as soon as I saw him I knew who he was. At first he was kinda of stand-offish, quiet. I broke the ice with him by asking him "Been getting any good DX" and he laugh a little and said "No, I lossing my hearing and I am not on the air much." We talked about my rigs and set up and he said "Come on I'll show you my shack." He had a Collins 380, a KWM2, and a NC303 with a SB200,a inverted V for 80-40 meters and a Drake 2 meter rig with a 2 meter Ringo. We talked about a picture he had on the wall of him Gen. Curtis LeMay and some highschool aged boys with a KWS1 setup , That was Feild Day 1957 at Wright-Patterson AFB , "Curtis had a local Highscool Hamclub over and we came in 2nd."

We never talked about droping the bomb and the only time it came up was when he told me, " I do look for Gen. LeMay and Jacob Besser my electronic Officer on the Enola Gay on the air. We used to gettgetter once a week , now it seems like we gettgetter once a month." I asked him how come no other pictures then that and a picture of him and his crew in front of the Enola Gay? " I am not into that bull s*#$t, you ever been in the service Hank?" When I told him I was in the Marine Corps and served in Viet Nam and my dad retired out of the Army. " Then you know what I mean" He gave me his QSL card and I gave one of my Eyeball QSL cards and we went back to the cookout.


Paul Tibbits just blended into the background of middle America, thats the way HE wanted it. A class act, and a man that looked for no glory.

[KI4NGN]

Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Nov. 04 2007,07:34)]Quote[/b] (KI4NGN @ Nov. 04 2007,03:37)]Suddenly two bombs are dropped that show my country will pay the same price for not surrendering, but that its not going to cost those against us any more lives.

Shamefully, disgracefully, my country surrenders.

How would my country feel if somebody did that to us?

Beaten and ashamed.
When you see the young Jap tourists at Pearl Harbor posing like MTV performers in front ot the names on the Arizona Memorial like I saw, wide toothy grins pointing at the names.... #

I know in my heart we should forgive and forget, and that will probably come when the children of the war vets pass on.
I agree Charlie.

I just couldn't understand the post that I responded to, that we should praise the Japanese forgiveness for us using the bomb. Like we should care that they forigve us???

[ky5u]

Dear Japan,

We are sorry we dropped two atom bombs on you. Considering your unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor, the Phillipinos, the starving of our POWS, the death marches, the bayonetting of our wounded soldiers, the beheading of prisoners for fun, the canabalism of our solders, the unwillingness of your leadership to desire a peaceful solution to the war, the unwillingness of you to concede the end and you continued fighting with kamakazi planes, and your unrepentance for these actions, we are sorry it had to come to that.

In the future, there is an easy way not to get nuked. Leave us the $%^$ alone.

Your Friend,
Charlie

[SP2EEF]

I thank You friends,
Jerry - K4KWH,
Herman- N8GAV
for yours information about Gen Paulu Tibbets - K4ZVZ.
I was certain that I would meet here someone who knew Pauls personally.

If you met Gen. Paul Tibbets personally - K4ZVZ , then there is the great honour for you.
Maybe someone have the orginal QSL card from Paul Tibbets ?
I think that this card QSL will by shown in internet.
This is already the well-known and famous person very valuable card.
I think that Gen Paul Tibbets was very modest man which he did not for fame.

Steve - N8CPA. You wrote:
"Tibets did what he had this to. God bless him for recognizing that he had this."
I agree with You Steve !!
Gen. Paul Tibbets is the gene American hero and patriot, I am certain with you.
I also understand Your emotional relation to him.
I feel him because I am also the officer, though only the reserve officer
and I was never on any war.
I know well what it is the necessity of the realization of the military order.
But from second page, I am certain that history should see soberly, without any emotion.

I apologize for my bad English.
Thank You !
73 !!
Raymond, SP2EEF / QTH=Torun, Poland