IS THAT A CB OR SCANNER YOU GOT THERE...

[w4bgn]

I wonder why the average person opens their mouth before thinking, or getting the facts.

I can't count the times I have been asked if my HT is a CB or scanner.

Even the "kids" at work ask, even though they know I'm into ham radio.

When I bring it in, they look at me and say "breaker 19".

Just last night, a customer saw me carring the HT in my hand, not even turned on, then he smarts off "look, I'm a cop".

Maybe one day these people will grow up and get a life. This is very aggravating to me.

Just my 2 cents worth.

[kl7aj]

Nobody's ever mistaken my Central Electronics 100V for a scanner. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[N8CPA]

They do it TO aggravate you. Why not deny them success? My personal motto--and it's a good one because I came up with it: "Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry, and the world laughs at you."

[KD6NIG]

I used to carry around a HTX-202 with a long antenna on it (about 3 times as long as stock) on purpose.

When asked about it, I told them that it was an advanced cell phone requiring a longer antenna because it was satellite based.

Only one person ever said "bravo sierra" to me http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KB1PLB]

Life is too short to let little things bother you. But if you can't let it go, there are plenty of office pranks to get even.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/442826183_75670be576_o.jpg

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (w4bgn @ Nov. 01 2007,11:54)]I wonder why the average person opens their mouth before thinking, or getting the facts.

I can't count the times I have been asked if my HT is a CB or scanner.

Even the "kids" at work ask, even though they know I'm into ham radio.

When I bring it in, they look at me and say "breaker 19".

Just last night, a customer saw me carring the HT in my hand, not even turned on, then he smarts off "look, I'm a cop".

Maybe one day these people will grow up and get a life. This is very aggravating to me.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Now you understand the insidious nature of CB and it's effect on HR. An older Ham told me last week that he didn't know when he helped start the CB service years ago he'd be starting the end of Amateur Radio.

[VO1GXG]

I was talking to someone on the VO1AAA repeater and the loser next to me asked if i was on a CB radio i did not even bother to explain the difference. My mom is always saying " Breaker 19 " to me.

[KC5CSG]

lol, ham radio is so main stream that the average person should know one on sight? Heck, I'm a ham operator yet I still laugh at the idiots that tote an HT into the grocery store. It's "nerdy" and it should be laughed at.

Jerry

[kq9j]

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 01 2007,14:43)]lol, ham radio is so main stream that the average person should know one on sight? Heck, I'm a ham operator yet I still laugh at the idiots that tote an HT into the grocery store. It's "nerdy" and it should be laughed at.

Jerry
And the people who think it is nerdy are probably standing there talking on their cellular phones.

If they make fun of you, you can point out that while they have to pay for the cellphone, your radio "service" is always free!!!

Perhaps some will be interested in getting their ham licenses.

On second thought...... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KI4ITV]

I get ribbed about the "CB stuff" a lot at work. I usually just tell them it's not CB and go about my business.
The owner knows it's not CB though, he went on various job inspections with me one afternoon and "WE" (type A) worked DX on 20m for a while on the way to and from the jobsites. hi hi.
He has had occasion to straighten people out about my radios.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif (of course, he did all the work) LOL!

[ac5de]

I was driving my wife's car to work one morning as she was going to use my pick-up with my amateur plates that day. #I leave the house at 4 am and was pulled over in a little town that I was working at that morning for no rear liscense plate light. #I have watched enough episodes of Cops to know that is just a reason to pull someone over. #I handed the officer my liscense and my concealed carry permit. #He asked where my gun was and I told him, he then asked if I had a scanner in the car. #I told him it was my amateur radio HT and that I was taking it to work with me as we were expecting some severe weather that day. #They were very polite, suggested that I get my LP light fixed and turned me loose after my liscense 28-29 came back clear. #I listened to the whole thing on my HT.

[k4kyv]

Quote[/b] (ac5de @ Nov. 01 2007,23:18)]I leave the house at 4 am and was pulled over in a little town that I was working at that morning for no rear liscense plate light. I have watched enough episodes of Cops to know that is just a reason to pull someone over. I handed the officer my liscense and my concealed carry permit. He asked where my gun was and I told him, he then asked if I had a scanner in the car. I told him it was my amateur radio HT and that I was taking it to work with me as we were expecting some severe weather that day. They were very polite, suggested that I get my LP light fixed and turned me loose after my liscense 28-29 came back clear. I listened to the whole thing on my HT.
One more example of using some lame excuse to pull you over, and then run a data base scan on you, hoping to catch someone on the 10 most wanted list.

If we didn't have the Bill of Rights to protect us, they would be randomly pulling us over on the highways day and night or stopping us on the street to run a data base scan.

[W5HTW]

No comment on the "cop hating" portion of this thread.

As to when they ask if this is a CB or a scanner, I just say "Yup" and go on.

Nah, I don't take an HT into any business. I am in the business to DO business, not listen to the radio. I don't take it on the plane with me, or in the company vehicles, or into McDonald's. Even though I actually use mine almost exclusively at a scanner, not as a ham radio.

Once in a great while someone will see the antenna (Outbacker) on the Jeep and say something like "Is that ham?" "Sure is." If they want to know more, I provide it, otherwise, I smile and go on my way. Mostly they look at it and say things like "Wow, big CB antenna."

I say "Yup" and go on my way. We have enough. I'm not into recruiting more.

Ed

[ka0gkt]

Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Nov. 01 2007,16:54)]One more example of using some lame excuse to pull you over, and then run a data base scan on you, hoping to catch someone on the 10 most wanted list.

If we didn't have the Bill of Rights to protect us, they would be #randomly pulling us over on the highways day and night or stopping us on the street to run a data base scan.
Tucson PD is using a new charecter recognition unit which uses a digital camera to "capture" the license plate number and automatically check with DMV and NCIC for stolen/wants/warrants. It has led to several arrests. Soon, they will be able to check to see if the vehicle is insured as well. Uninsured vehicles are impounded.

I tend to be a bit of a civil libertarian when it comes to law enforcment; however with the large number of uninured vehicles on the road in Arizona, many of which are driven by unlicensed undocumented aliens, I am happy that such a system is available.

Cars stolen in Arizona often end up in chop shops South of the Border. By registering my vehicles and placing a special sticker in the window, I give law enforcment permission to pull over my car and verify the driver anywhere within 50-miles of the border with Mexico or anytime between 1:00 am and 6:00 am. Between the sticker and LoJack, I'm pretty sure thatI'll get my car back if it is stolen.

73 DE KAØGKT/7

--Steve

[ai4ep]

Most folks who have no use for the cops DO have a use for cops if / when the cops can HELP THEM, if at no other time.

Fortunately the cops already know how much you like them BEFORE you ask for their help.

Word gets around....and some cops even read this thread.

Dont forget the smiley -- # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KC5CSG]

Quote[/b] (kq9j @ Nov. 01 2007,16:11)]Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 01 2007,14:43)]lol, ham radio is so main stream that the average person should know one on sight? Heck, I'm a ham operator yet I still laugh at the idiots that tote an HT into the grocery store. It's "nerdy" and it should be laughed at.

Jerry
And the people who think it is nerdy are probably standing there talking on their cellular phones.

If they make fun of you, you can point out that while they have to pay for the cellphone, your radio "service" is always free!!!

Perhaps some will be interested in getting their ham licenses.

On second thought...... # # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And I would take my flip phone and put it in my shirt pocket and challenge you to do the same without poking your eye out or looking like a fool. I would then take it back out and call my Uncle in New York in a matter of seconds and challenge you to do the same. I would then stand next to a few people with cell phones and invite you in to do the same as long as you managed to BLEND in. I would then remind you I'm also a ham operator but my HT is in the car where I can do everything you just did on that HT of yours. Difference between you and I? Simple, you're in the store looking like a dork, and you should. I look normal.

Jerry

[KI4PEQ]

Is that a 2 meter handheld in your pants pocket, or are you just happy to see me? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KC5CSG]

What? I'm going to pick on people that walk around in the store with a bluetooth ear piece jammed in their ear because they think they're so important they just can't miss a call and they have to have both hands free at all times and not pick on the hams that think they're so important that they can't leave their HT in the car for 10 minutes?

LOL, surely you jest.................

[KL1ZB]

Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Oct. 31 2007,13:08)]Nobody's ever mistaken my Central Electronics 100V for a scanner. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Your right, however they would comment on how nice your boat anchor was. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KL1ZB]

Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ Oct. 31 2007,19:42)]Is that a 2 meter handheld in your pants pocket, or are you just happy to see me? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
2 meter??? More like 80 meter! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[VE7NOT]

Interesting. I had lots of people ask me if my VX6R is a scanner. I say 'sort of'.

I show them all the police, fire, taxis, marine, air channel and how i've alpha-tagged them and can scan the selected ones. So yes it is like an advanced scanner BUT then I show them the PTT button on the side... see I can transmit too on ham frequencies...

Much easier.

(No I don't take it in the grocery store or the bank and such BUT I do take it to religious services. (it's turned off though http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif )

As for asking if it's a CB that's easy. My handheld won't TX there. (Only 40-500MHz) I just show them the tx error thing.

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 01 2007,18:39)][ Difference between you and I? Simple, you're in the store looking like a dork, and you should. I look normal.

Jerry
But looks can be deceiving.

[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (KL1ZB @ Nov. 01 2007,22:24)]Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ Oct. 31 2007,19:42)]Is that a 2 meter handheld in your pants pocket, or are you just happy to see me? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
2 meter??? More like 80 meter! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Braggart! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[M0DSZ]

Quote[/b] (w4bgn @ Nov. 01 2007,11:54)]I wonder why the average person opens their mouth before thinking, or getting the facts.

I can't count the times I have been asked if my HT is a CB or scanner.

Even the "kids" at work ask, even though they know I'm into ham radio.

When I bring it in, they look at me and say "breaker 19".

Just last night, a customer saw me carring the HT in my hand, not even turned on, then he smarts off "look, I'm a cop".

Maybe one day these people will grow up and get a life. This is very aggravating to me.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Widespread general ignorance about technical matters and predjudice against anyone who is not a "clone". Here's another example: whilst working as an engineer in broadcast TV in London one evening, there was a report about "rioting" about half a mile away. It was a slack evening and no cameraman or sound recordist around so a colleague and I broke open the hire equipment cupboard and went out with a large TV camera and microphone.
The only comments from the general public were on the lines of "Oh, you making blue movies then?"

[n2cfj]

Quote[/b] (ka0gkt @ Nov. 01 2007,18:17)]Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Nov. 01 2007,16:54)]One more example of using some lame excuse to pull you over, and then run a data base scan on you, hoping to catch someone on the 10 most wanted list.

If we didn't have the Bill of Rights to protect us, they would be #randomly pulling us over on the highways day and night or stopping us on the street to run a data base scan.
Tucson PD is using a new charecter recognition unit which uses a digital camera to "capture" the license plate number and automatically check with DMV and NCIC for stolen/wants/warrants. #It has led to several arrests. #Soon, they will be able to check to see if the vehicle is insured as well. #Uninsured vehicles are impounded.

I tend to be a bit of a civil libertarian when it comes to law enforcment; however with the large number of uninured vehicles on the road in Arizona, many of which are driven by unlicensed undocumented aliens, I am happy that such a system is available.

Cars stolen in Arizona often end up in chop shops South of the Border. #By registering my vehicles and placing a special sticker in the window, I give law enforcment permission to pull over my car and verify the driver anywhere within 50-miles of the border with Mexico or anytime between 1:00 am and 6:00 am. #Between the sticker and LoJack, I'm pretty sure thatI'll get my car back if it is stolen.

73 DE KAØGKT/7

--Steve
A couple of the towns around here have a sticker for the rear window of residents' cars that authorize a pull over at certain times in the middle of the night for a document check. These are wealthier towns with high ticket cars.

[kc7gnm]

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 01 2007,21:39)]Quote[/b] (kq9j @ Nov. 01 2007,16:11)]Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 01 2007,14:43)]lol, ham radio is so main stream that the average person should know one on sight? Heck, I'm a ham operator yet I still laugh at the idiots that tote an HT into the grocery store. It's "nerdy" and it should be laughed at.

Jerry
And the people who think it is nerdy are probably standing there talking on their cellular phones.

If they make fun of you, you can point out that while they have to pay for the cellphone, your radio "service" is always free!!!

Perhaps some will be interested in getting their ham licenses.

On second thought...... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And I would take my flip phone and put it in my shirt pocket and challenge you to do the same without poking your eye out or looking like a fool. I would then take it back out and call my Uncle in New York in a matter of seconds and challenge you to do the same. I would then stand next to a few people with cell phones and invite you in to do the same as long as you managed to BLEND in. I would then remind you I'm also a ham operator but my HT is in the car where I can do everything you just did on that HT of yours. Difference between you and I? Simple, you're in the store looking like a dork, and you should. I look normal.

Jerry
So I guess you can't leave that cell phone in your car either. Why is it so important to have that device too?

[KB1PLB]

Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 02 2007,03:49)]So I guess you can't leave that cell phone in your car either. Why is it so important to have that device too?
I hate cell phones as much as most of you hate CBs.

[kc7gnm]

Quote[/b] (KB1PLB @ Nov. 02 2007,12:00)]Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 02 2007,03:49)]So I guess you can't leave that cell phone in your car either. Why is it so important to have that device too?
I hate cell phones as much as most of you hate CBs.
I don't hate CB's. Just the ignorant operators.

[ky5u]

The po-lice can pull me over all they want to if it means getting people driving without a license due to DUI revocations/suspensions. People without insurance. People/kids under the influence. Gang bangers.

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (KB1PLB @ Nov. 02 2007,09:00)]Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 02 2007,03:49)]So I guess you can't leave that cell phone in your car either. Why is it so important to have that device too?
I hate cell phones as much as most of you hate CBs.
You're probably left handed too.

[K4GUN]

If you carry an HT, you've got to expect to get comments. I keep one at my desk at work, set up for cross-band repeat with my truck that is right outside. From strangers, I get very few questions. My friends at work will often tease me, but I just laugh with them.

Think of it as an opportunity. Laugh with them and then launch into an explanation of what it is. One of two things will happen. Either they will become interested or their eyes will glaze over with boredom and will know not to bring it up again. Either way, its a good result for you.

My usual answer to the "is that a CB?" question is this:

"Not exactly. Its similar, but a lot better. With this thing, I can literally talk all over the word, without satellites, phones or internet. Its direct point to point radio waves bouncing off the ionosphere. The handheld is for local communications with my friends and can be used in emergencies when cell phones are useless like they were on 9/11."

With that brief explanation, I usually get something to the effect of "hey, that's pretty cool. I didn't know that existed." In almost every case, they have enough information to carry on without bugging me further. Friends still make jokes, but I can handle those.

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (k4gun @ Nov. 02 2007,09:10)]My usual answer to the "is that a CB?" question is
I usually say no and point to their head and ask, "Is that a hat rack?"

[kc7gnm]

Quote[/b] (k4gun @ Nov. 02 2007,12:10)]If you carry an HT, you've got to expect to get comments. I keep one at my desk at work, set up for cross-band repeat with my truck that is right outside. From strangers, I get very few questions. My friends at work will often tease me, but I just laugh with them.

Think of it as an opportunity. Laugh with them and then launch into an explanation of what it is. One of two things will happen. Either they will become interested or their eyes will glaze over with boredom and will know not to bring it up again. Either way, its a good result for you.

My usual answer to the "is that a CB?" question is this:

"Not exactly. Its similar, but a lot better. With this thing, I can literally talk all over the word, without satellites, phones or internet. Its direct point to point radio waves bouncing off the ionosphere. The handheld is for local communications with my friends and can be used in emergencies when cell phones are useless like they were on 9/11."

With that brief explanation, I usually get something to the effect of "hey, that's pretty cool. I didn't know that existed." In almost every case, they have enough information to carry on without bugging me further. Friends still make jokes, but I can handle those.
I get the jokes all the time with my Pro-Am HF and my MFJ dual band antennas on the back of my truck. I laugh with them because I know they are joking. I just remember that it is my hobby and I am doing what I like to do.

[KA4DPO]

You could walk into the store wearing this. Instant respect.....

Linkum (http://arrl.auctionanything.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=872895&_UserReference=D1D0771346B5800133B9A4D1A5AD472B4DC 4)

[KG6GMX]

Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Nov. 02 2007,09:20)]You could walk into the store wearing this. #Instant respect.....

Linkum (http://arrl.auctionanything.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=872895&_UserReference=D1D0771346B5800133B9A4D1A5AD472B4DC 4)
ROFLMAO!! # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[KG6GMX]

Yeah, I hate it when my BLONDE wife calls my radio equipment " cb stuff"
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[w3wn]

Quote[/b] (w4bgn @ Nov. 01 2007,14:54)]I wonder why the average person opens their mouth before thinking, or getting the facts.

I can't count the times I have been asked if my HT is a CB or scanner.

Even the "kids" at work ask, even though they know I'm into ham radio.

When I bring it in, they look at me and say "breaker 19".

Just last night, a customer saw me carring the HT in my hand, not even turned on, then he smarts off "look, I'm a cop".

Maybe one day these people will grow up and get a life. This is very aggravating to me.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Because the nuances of the difference between CB and Amateur Radio, so important to us, don't exist to the vast majority of the general public.

One place I used to work, my boss and another co-worker kept giving me the "10-4" comments, especially when I had my HT with me. #One day, another local ham came in to my workplace -- they were trying to do some DF on some interference to the repeater input, 5 kHz off. #I immediately recognized the voices, found my two co-workers screwing around with my HT (removed from a locked desk drawer), and put the battery pack away. #From then on, the HT either stayed on me or in my car.

They later griped that I "spoiled their fun" by not bringing my "CB walkie talkie" into work with me again.

The rig? #A Tempo FMH-2. #Where and when did I learn this lesson the hard way? #1979, at the Burger King in State College PA (I was one of the assistant managers at the time, the other ASM & the Store Manager were the two jokers). #

Some things never change.

So don't sweat the small stuff.

[ki4rdg]

You could loose your ticket for something like that if someone knew who it was and reported you. THAT WAS NOT COOL.

Personally, if I found someone had broke into my desk and was messing around with my HT or anything else for that matter I WOULD BEAT THE LIVING S**T OUT OF THEM!!! Boss or not I would not put up with that.

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (KG6GMX @ Nov. 02 2007,12:10)]Yeah, I hate it when my BLONDE wife calls my radio equipment " cb stuff"
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Tell her to put her hair in a ponytail to hide the valve stem.

[KC5CSG]

Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 02 2007,08:49)]Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 01 2007,21:39)]Quote[/b] (kq9j @ Nov. 01 2007,16:11)]Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 01 2007,14:43)]lol, ham radio is so main stream that the average person should know one on sight? Heck, I'm a ham operator yet I still laugh at the idiots that tote an HT into the grocery store. It's "nerdy" and it should be laughed at.

Jerry
And the people who think it is nerdy are probably standing there talking on their cellular phones.

If they make fun of you, you can point out that while they have to pay for the cellphone, your radio "service" is always free!!!

Perhaps some will be interested in getting their ham licenses.

On second thought...... # # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And I would take my flip phone and put it in my shirt pocket and challenge you to do the same without poking your eye out or looking like a fool. I would then take it back out and call my Uncle in New York in a matter of seconds and challenge you to do the same. I would then stand next to a few people with cell phones and invite you in to do the same as long as you managed to BLEND in. I would then remind you I'm also a ham operator but my HT is in the car where I can do everything you just did on that HT of yours. Difference between you and I? Simple, you're in the store looking like a dork, and you should. I look normal.

Jerry
So I guess you can't leave that cell phone in your car either. Why is it so important to have that device too?
1. I'm in a rapid deployment unit. We get alerted three times a month at times. Mostly once a month. The Alerts are never announced. Even our 1SG doesn't know when they'll call the CQ (Charge of quarters, not General Call) and kick the crap off. I have been called back on alert while I was in the grocery store twice now. After the call I have one hour to get back to post with all my gear. I can't give the excuse, I was away from the phone. Many soldier has tried and ended up in real trouble.

2. I'm also the Training NCO for for my Company. My 1SG and Commander expect to get hold of me at anytime since I'm the one that is tracking and arranging the training for 146 soldiers. I get calls in the middle of the night, on the weekends, and when I'm on leave because my 1SG and Commander are expected to be on duty 24 hours a day when it concerns our BN Commander. Guess what, that makes me on duty 24 hours a day.

3. I'm directly in charge of three soldiers that work in my office. I'm expected to take calls from them at all times with any problem they see fit to call me with. After all, I'm their Sergeant. It's my job. I can't expect to be able to call my soldiers at a moment's notice if they can't get me at a moments notice. I lead by expample.

Good enough for you? Probably not because pukes like you wouldn't know the meaning of duty. Tell you what, in case you don't own a dictionary I'll point you towards the right link:

http://www.wikipedia.org

In the text box type in the word "duty". It may tell you something about going above and beyond what is expected. That is something you take upon yourself to do but in today's Army, a cell phone is almost required for NCO's. With the little bit of power that is eventually given you come great responsibilities. I'm sure you may be aware of the concept. Then again, maybe not.


Of course, as always, that's just my opinon............

Jerry

[n2cfj]

It happened again this morning. My office is in my parent's house and the 50' tower is right outside the office door. The client that came this morning, (a trucker BTW), asked if the tower was for CB. It happens often and gives me the chance to extol the virtues of ham radio. One client was so facinated that I took him upstairs to my father's shack and gave him a demo. Now his wife is PO'ed at me for all the time he spends on the air late at night. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Although there is a mag mount on my car roof, I rarely get asked about it. Last time was about a month ago in a gas station. The guy filling up on the other side of the island asked if it was a 2 meter 1/4 wave. We had a nice eyeball QSO after exchanging calls.

[KD4IFB]

I think its a good Idea to tell people what it is ,and what we are about.. Thats the very problem today with Ham radio..People dont know alot about us. But ask them if they remember all those trucking movies of the 70s and 80s. #Will and Sonny, Bandit Darvel etc.. They can pretty much tell you alot..Even we know of these errors and didnt realize the effect of how 11Ms would reflect on Ham radio..The big problem is that alot of people dont know the difference... And if we dont tell them,how will they ever know.. 11M back then was a very positive part of what gave truckers alot of fame as American Highway Heros.. Today that error is gone to the fact the public looks at them as drug addicts out there sitting in truckstops cussing and raising hell at each other on 11Ms..along with many other things not mentioned...(Note* #I am not saying all, but some.. ) So its easy to see how we have been crossed in this..And it will not get better if we dont tell...So dont tell and see what happens. # As I read before here about the death of Ham radio. Its our fault if we dont tell. And it dies with the ones who dont educate.. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif # So tell everyone, and educate! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KC5CSG]

Movies like "Convoy" and "Smokey and the bandit" made C.B.'s popular. Both movies portrayed good old boys being rebels using C.B.'s to have their "fun". Since most americans have a rebel side to them, they related and C.B. has been an image that endures to this day.

Movies with ham radio? Yeah, we've had a few but they were movies that portrayed hams as total freaks lol. Can't remember the movie but remember the one where this guy was waiting for Diana Ross to call him on his radio? He sort of creeped me out. The movie "Frequency" well, it sucked. With "Big chief" calling "Little Chief" can you see where people have them confused? People don't remember things from sucky movies. "Independence day"? LOL who now days outside of radio wants to bang on a key when "Rubber duckie" had a mic to talk on and the movie itself had a catchy theme song? By the way, ever notice how they were working those CW keys? LOL..........really, who slaps a key. They could have least showed proper form.

In summary, CB has always been viewed as simple, affordable, and most of all, rebelious. Hense, more fun. Stuff like that tends to stick in our minds.

[ai4ep]

On the local level, having a police scanner does NOT let you in on the inside story of any thing.. they use a CELL PHONE to get or recieve any really detailed information.

I personally dont blame them...most of the fooolks who have scanners around here are just plain out too NOSEY any way, and only want to see the COPS arrest their neighbors, or help them when they get in a jam.

Cops know who hates them. They surely DO.

[kc6toa]

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 03 2007,12:45)]Movies like "Convoy" and "Smokey and the bandit" made C.B.'s popular. Both movies portrayed good old boys being rebels using C.B.'s to have their "fun". Since most americans have a rebel side to them, they related and C.B. has been an image that endures to this day.

Movies with ham radio? Yeah, we've had a few but they were movies that portrayed hams as total freaks lol. Can't remember the movie but remember the one where this guy was waiting for Diana Ross to call him on his radio? He sort of creeped me out. The movie "Frequency" well, it sucked. With "Big chief" calling "Little Chief" can you see where people have them confused? People don't remember things from sucky movies. "Independence day"? LOL who now days outside of radio wants to bang on a key when "Rubber duckie" had a mic to talk on and the movie itself had a catchy theme song? By the way, ever notice how they were working those CW keys? LOL..........really, who slaps a key. They could have least showed proper form.

In summary, CB has always been viewed as simple, affordable, and most of all, rebelious. Hense, more fun. Stuff like that tends to stick in our minds.
CB radios became popular when the cheap transistorized units came out in the 70's. and then with Smokey & the Bandit and Convoy, then it exploded. CB is also central to the Dukes of Hazzard. Your "rebel image" comment is spot on.

Only movie I remember where ham radio was used is in Phenomenon. Not exactly a glorious promotion.

[VE7DCW]

Quote[/b] (KG6GMX @ Nov. 02 2007,12:10)]Yeah, I hate it when my BLONDE wife calls my radio equipment " cb stuff" #
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My wife is'nt blonde and she calls it "cb stuff" as well. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I really think it's time for her to change her hair color http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

73

[kc7gnm]

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 02 2007,22:19)]1. I'm in a rapid deployment unit. We get alerted three times a month at times. Mostly once a month. The Alerts are never announced. Even our 1SG doesn't know when they'll call the CQ (Charge of quarters, not General Call) and kick the crap off. I have been called back on alert while I was in the grocery store twice now. After the call I have one hour to get back to post with all my gear. I can't give the excuse, I was away from the phone. Many soldier has tried and ended up in real trouble.

2. I'm also the Training NCO for for my Company. My 1SG and Commander expect to get hold of me at anytime since I'm the one that is tracking and arranging the training for 146 soldiers. I get calls in the middle of the night, on the weekends, and when I'm on leave because my 1SG and Commander are expected to be on duty 24 hours a day when it concerns our BN Commander. Guess what, that makes me on duty 24 hours a day.

3. I'm directly in charge of three soldiers that work in my office. I'm expected to take calls from them at all times with any problem they see fit to call me with. After all, I'm their Sergeant. It's my job. I can't expect to be able to call my soldiers at a moment's notice if they can't get me at a moments notice. I lead by expample.

Good enough for you? Probably not because pukes like you wouldn't know the meaning of duty. Tell you what, in case you don't own a dictionary I'll point you towards the right link:

http://www.wikipedia.org

In the text box type in the word "duty". It may tell you something about going above and beyond what is expected. That is something you take upon yourself to do but in today's Army, a cell phone is almost required for NCO's. With the little bit of power that is eventually given you come great responsibilities. I'm sure you may be aware of the concept. Then again, maybe not.


Of course, as always, that's just my opinon............

Jerry
You better back up a little bit son and go look at my profile. I spent 20 years in the Army in just about every type of unit you can think of. I know what duty is. I was only talking about the issue of some smartass saying it was ok for someone to make fun of someone with an HT but can't do that for someone with a cell phone. I was in the Army way before Cell phones and even pagers for that matter were an everyday occurance.

Before you start spouting off you better check first who you are talking to. Apparently you don't do any research first, now do you?

[KC5CSG]

Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 03 2007,20:41)]Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 02 2007,22:19)]1. I'm in a rapid deployment unit. We get alerted three times a month at times. Mostly once a month. The Alerts are never announced. Even our 1SG doesn't know when they'll call the CQ (Charge of quarters, not General Call) and kick the crap off. I have been called back on alert while I was in the grocery store twice now. After the call I have one hour to get back to post with all my gear. I can't give the excuse, I was away from the phone. Many soldier has tried and ended up in real trouble.

2. I'm also the Training NCO for for my Company. My 1SG and Commander expect to get hold of me at anytime since I'm the one that is tracking and arranging the training for 146 soldiers. I get calls in the middle of the night, on the weekends, and when I'm on leave because my 1SG and Commander are expected to be on duty 24 hours a day when it concerns our BN Commander. Guess what, that makes me on duty 24 hours a day.

3. I'm directly in charge of three soldiers that work in my office. I'm expected to take calls from them at all times with any problem they see fit to call me with. After all, I'm their Sergeant. It's my job. I can't expect to be able to call my soldiers at a moment's notice if they can't get me at a moments notice. I lead by expample.

Good enough for you? Probably not because pukes like you wouldn't know the meaning of duty. Tell you what, in case you don't own a dictionary I'll point you towards the right link:

http://www.wikipedia.org

In the text box type in the word "duty". It may tell you something about going above and beyond what is expected. That is something you take upon yourself to do but in today's Army, a cell phone is almost required for NCO's. With the little bit of power that is eventually given you come great responsibilities. I'm sure you may be aware of the concept. Then again, maybe not.


Of course, as always, that's just my opinon............

Jerry
You better back up a little bit son and go look at my profile. I spent 20 years in the Army in just about every type of unit you can think of. I know what duty is. I was only talking about the issue of some smartass saying it was ok for someone to make fun of someone with an HT but can't do that for someone with a cell phone. I was in the Army way before Cell phones and even pagers for that matter were an everyday occurance. #

Before you start spouting off you better check first who you are talking to. Apparently you don't do any research first, now do you?
I gave you the reasons, and it's a valid reasons. Who cares what you "used" to do? That doesn't even have anything to do with what you asked. It sure doesn't have anything to do with my answer. What, you feel the need to chest beat a little?

Jerry

[kn4ds]

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 03 2007,15:45)]The movie "Frequency" well, it sucked. With "Big chief" calling "Little Chief" can you see where people have them confused?
That one was a little strange... but your mention of it reminded me of a situation this evening...

I worked N8F today, a special event station commemorating the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald (32 years ago as of 11/10)... I mentioned this to my wife, and she thought I'd said I worked someone aboard the boat... and she gave me the same look I get when I do something singularly stupid (which is pretty much every day)...

I said "yeah, baby, I talked to a guy who's been living on this boat for 32 years under 530 feet of water"

We're waiting on the boys with the nice jackets that have the straps behind your back...

[kc7gnm]

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 04 2007,00:12)]I gave you the reasons, and it's a valid reasons. Who cares what you "used" to do? That doesn't even have anything to do with what you asked. It sure doesn't have anything to do with my answer. What, you feel the need to chest beat a little?

Jerry
Well you certainly did with your I am on call BS. The army has always been on call even before cell phones and you make it act like you must be there 24/7. I know better than that. You act like you are the most important soldier in the Army. Well got some news for you, you are just one soldier of over 100,000 plus. Your little tirade makes it out to believe you need to be tied to a cell phone 24/7. Who pays for the cell phone? If it is the Army then I can understand but it if is your personal one then you can turn it off at night and not worry about it.

I personally don't think you are that important enough as an E-5 to warrant carrying a cell phone 24/7 for the reasons you listed.

As far as what I used to do it was way more than what you listed and I didn't need a cell phone either. No chest thumping there just basic facts.

Quote[/b] ]And I would take my flip phone and put it in my shirt pocket and challenge you to do the same without poking your eye out or looking like a fool. I would then take it back out and call my Uncle in New York in a matter of seconds and challenge you to do the same. I would then stand next to a few people with cell phones and invite you in to do the same as long as you managed to BLEND in. I would then remind you I'm also a ham operator but my HT is in the car where I can do everything you just did on that HT of yours. Difference between you and I? Simple, you're in the store looking like a dork, and you should. I look normal.

Here is what you said originally that I commented on. The only one that looks like a dork is an E-5 that thinks he is so important he needs his cell phone 24/7.

[KC5CSG]

Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 04 2007,07:44)]Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 04 2007,00:12)]I gave you the reasons, and it's a valid reasons. Who cares what you "used" to do? That doesn't even have anything to do with what you asked. It sure doesn't have anything to do with my answer. What, you feel the need to chest beat a little?

Jerry
Well you certainly did with your I am on call BS. The army has always been on call even before cell phones and you make it act like you must be there 24/7. I know better than that. You act like you are the most important soldier in the Army. Well got some news for you, you are just one soldier of over 100,000 plus. Your little tirade makes it out to believe you need to be tied to a cell phone 24/7. Who pays for the cell phone? If it is the Army then I can understand but it if is your personal one then you can turn it off at night and not worry about it.

I personally don't think you are that important enough as an E-5 to warrant carrying a cell phone 24/7 for the reasons you listed. #

As far as what I used to do it was way more than what you listed and I didn't need a cell phone either. No chest thumping there just basic facts.

Quote[/b] ]And I would take my flip phone and put it in my shirt pocket and challenge you to do the same without poking your eye out or looking like a fool. I would then take it back out and call my Uncle in New York in a matter of seconds and challenge you to do the same. I would then stand next to a few people with cell phones and invite you in to do the same as long as you managed to BLEND in. I would then remind you I'm also a ham operator but my HT is in the car where I can do everything you just did on that HT of yours. Difference between you and I? Simple, you're in the store looking like a dork, and you should. I look normal.

Here is what you said originally that I commented on. The only one that looks like a dork is an E-5 that thinks he is so important he needs his cell phone 24/7.
I never stated I was important. I just stated the reasons why I carry a cell phone. I've been in the Army since 1991. When I came in we relied on pagers whenever I was in rapid deployment units. We all had an alert roster and if we were not on leave (with a known and accurate address) we were expected to be near either our home phone or our spouse had better know where we were when an alert was called. If you were in the army you'd know this.

Now days, we don't need to give POC's to our platoon sergeants and Section Sergeants if we were going to be elsewhere for the weekend or off duty at night. Cells phones make it easy.

Yes, I do get calls all the time from my 1SG. Espcecially when it's time to start getting them slides ready for the Quarterly Training Brief. Even though the were not needed in the past they're needed now if you're in today's army and you want to live a life when you're released after work.

I never denied your service to your country. Don't belittle mine. In six years I'll be able to say the same thing about your 20 years. Difference between you and me though, I'll never crack on a future servicemember going off of information I have from past service. Boots on the ground in any country in 96 hours. That is my company's mission. If you don't have a cell phone then you're miserable buddy.

Even the United States Army recognises cell phones are becoming more and more mandatory in order to mantain force readiness. Why? Simple, go online and download a current copy of AR 670-1. That's right buddy, now there are proper ways to wear a cell phone and what types you can wear. The Army, after years of trying to discourage cell phone use, has conceeded cell phones are needed. Commanders are even encouraged now to push soldiers to have them. I know this because I've sat in many a training meeting at BN and listened to the BN CDR he wanted to see more cell phone numbers on that alert roster.

Oh, don't think you're important enough to warrant researching you before I respond to you. What? You think you're special??? I'll bet 10 bucks that you're one of them retirees that walk around post demanding people address you at your rank when seperated. We active soldiers have a special word for your kind.

Let me break this down so even you can understand. A reason is a reason.

Daddy wanting contact with a kid who also has a cell phone is a reason.

Wanting to recieve calls at anytime from anyone is a reason.

Tons of reasons why you would have a cell phone for work related issues.

Anyone can sit here and jot down a thousand reasons to have a cell phone on them at all times.

But how many reasons can you conjure up to not be seperated from your precious HT for 10 minutes???

Instant severe wx changes?
You may have the need to flash the radio cop badge while reading nutritional information on the can of soup you're trying to decide to buy?
Or are you scared you might miss that one call that comes through the repeater after it's been dead for weeks?

Really, what good reason do you have to bring a big bulky HT (as compared to a cell phone) into the grocery store for 10 stupid minutes?
Or is it because you're a whacker and you want whacking to be cool? You thought all of them buttons on that big radio were going to make you look cool and important but all you got was snickers and comical looks? Yeah, that would be a big bummer for me as well. That's why I leave the thing in the car.

[KD7YPD]

When people see the bugcatcher on my truck they think it's CB. Goes with the territory. People that drive classic cars probably get the same thing when someone doesn't even know the decade their car was built.

My cell isn't even fancy, yet the camera is 2 megapixel and it has 2 gig of storage. I can be in the store or at work, take a pic and instantly send it to someone for input, then research on the internet and attach that photo to an email to send off to multiple people, while talking on speakerphone to my daughter 3000 miles away. I can be in public doing this and not get a second look. Now if I still used my old motorola brick phone....The young kids now use cell and weren't even born when the brick came out - they would probably ask if it was a CB.

I'm sure if enough Hams paid for it, the cell companies would set up crossbands for 2 meter at the cell sites. Just figure out a way to disable that pesky full duplex. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kc7gnm]

Quote[/b] ]Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 04 2007,12:53)]Well you certainly did with your I am on call BS. The army has always been on call even before cell phones and you make it act like you must be there 24/7. I know better than that. You act like you are the most important soldier in the Army. Well got some news for you, you are just one soldier of over 100,000 plus. Your little tirade makes it out to believe you need to be tied to a cell phone 24/7. Who pays for the cell phone? If it is the Army then I can understand but it if is your personal one then you can turn it off at night and not worry about it.

I personally don't think you are that important enough as an E-5 to warrant carrying a cell phone 24/7 for the reasons you listed.

As far as what I used to do it was way more than what you listed and I didn't need a cell phone either. No chest thumping there just basic facts.

Quote[/b] ]And I would take my flip phone and put it in my shirt pocket and challenge you to do the same without poking your eye out or looking like a fool. I would then take it back out and call my Uncle in New York in a matter of seconds and challenge you to do the same. I would then stand next to a few people with cell phones and invite you in to do the same as long as you managed to BLEND in. I would then remind you I'm also a ham operator but my HT is in the car where I can do everything you just did on that HT of yours. Difference between you and I? Simple, you're in the store looking like a dork, and you should. I look normal.

Here is what you said originally that I commented on. The only one that looks like a dork is an E-5 that thinks he is so important he needs his cell phone 24/7.
I never stated I was important. I just stated the reasons why I carry a cell phone. I've been in the Army since 1991. When I came in we relied on pagers whenever I was in rapid deployment units. We all had an alert roster and if we were not on leave (with a known and accurate address) we were expected to be near either our home phone or our spouse had better know where we were when an alert was called. If you were in the army you'd know this.

Now days, we don't need to give POC's to our platoon sergeants and Section Sergeants if we were going to be elsewhere for the weekend or off duty at night. Cells phones make it easy.

Yes, I do get calls all the time from my 1SG. Espcecially when it's time to start getting them slides ready for the Quarterly Training Brief. Even though the were not needed in the past they're needed now if you're in today's army and you want to live a life when you're released after work.

I never denied your service to your country. Don't belittle mine. In six years I'll be able to say the same thing about your 20 years. Difference between you and me though, I'll never crack on a future servicemember going off of information I have from past service. Boots on the ground in any country in 96 hours. That is my company's mission. If you don't have a cell phone then you're miserable buddy.

Oh, don't think you're important enough to warrant researching you before I respond to you. What? You think you're special??? I'll bet 10 bucks that you're one of them retirees that walk around post demanding people address you at your rank when seperated. We active soldiers have a special word for your kind.

Please..................[/quote]
The way you are talking you act like you are the most important person. The army survived before cell phones and will survive in the future. If you think you need to be on a leash 24/7 you are mistaken. Just because every soldier has a cell phone now does not mean he needs to keep it on 24/7.

I used to be a training NCO and know about QTB's. I was never on call like you claim to be on for the QTB. You are still trying to make it out like it is more important now than it was back then.

This will be my last post about this issue. Let's get back to ham radio talk.

PS. BTW whether you like it or not I am still and SFC retired or not. I don't expect active duty to call me by my rank anymore but I still get called that at the gate out of respect from the gate guards and they are civilians. So you little remark just shows how much respect you actually show to your superiors.

[ai4ep]

...maybe kc5csg superiors need to KNOW what he is saying about them.

[KC5CSG]

Yawn.......

[KC5CSG]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Nov. 04 2007,10:50)]...maybe kc5csg superiors need to KNOW what he is saying about them.
Tell them. I didn't say anything derogatory about them. In fact, them working their butts off and working their soldiers butts off would compliment them. After all, it's every Army leaders goal to keep their soldiers gainfully employed.

[ai4ep]

I am sure that some one out there that does not like you will do it asap.

and there aint a darn thing YOU can do about it.

(dont forget the smiley) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KC5CSG]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Nov. 04 2007,11:06)]I am sure that some one out there that does not like you will do it asap.

and there aint a darn thing YOU can do about it.

(dont forget the smiley) # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Go ahead.......like I said, I said nothing that would be offensive to my superiors............LOL

In fact, please do it. Ham radio operators have a reputation to protect. You know, the rep for being whack jobs???

LOL..............

I guess you can't fix stupid even if you give them an "official" license.

KD5EXX de KC5CSG.
KC5CSG de KD5EXX.

Hey Laura, I'm over here by the peas which brand should I get?
Well Jerry you know it can't be anything other than Green Giant.
Uh Laura? Are you by the diapers yet? If not can you give me an ETA.
Jerry I will be there in approximately 30 seconds.
Laura, are you going to let me get some Hershey's kisses this time?
Jerry, now you know you're fat enough as it is.
Okay laura, I'm sorry.

DE KC5CSG for ID
DE KD5EXX for ID rounding the feminine hygiene products and the diapers are in sight.
Well good job Laura, you're full quieting into the repeater by the way. How am I making it.
Uh Jerry, people are looking at me like I'm a nut.
Don't worry about it Laura. Thos people are just stupid because they think you're on a CB. They're jealous of that big radio with all the fancy buttons. Just ignore them.
Oh okay honey, I just thought they were probably alarmed with me looking like I was a spotter for a robber.
Don't worry Laura, people fear what they're too stupid to understand.
Jerry, shouldn't we be simplex? You're only one aisle over.
Nah, that squelch tail make us sound more important.

LOL...........

[KB7GL]

I think it's time for some adult supervision in this thread. The back & forth "in your face" is becoming tedious. Moderators...?

[KB1GXM]

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 04 2007,11:10)]I guess you can't fix stupid even if you give them an "official" license.

KD5EXX de KC5CSG.
KC5CSG de KD5EXX.

Hey Laura, I'm over here by the peas which brand should I get?
Well Jerry you know it can't be anything other than Green Giant.
Uh Laura? Are you by the diapers yet? If not can you give me an ETA.
Jerry I will be there in approximately 30 seconds.
Laura, are you going to let me get some Hershey's kisses this time?
Jerry, now you know you're fat enough as it is.
Okay laura, I'm sorry.

DE KC5CSG for ID
DE KD5EXX for ID rounding the feminine hygiene products and the diapers are in sight.
Well good job Laura, you're full quieting into the repeater by the way. How am I making it.
Uh Jerry, people are looking at me like I'm a nut.
Don't worry about it Laura. Thos people are just stupid because they think you're on a CB. They're jealous of that big radio with all the fancy buttons. Just ignore them.
Oh okay honey, I just thought they were probably alarmed with me looking like I was a spotter for a robber.
Don't worry Laura, people fear what they're too stupid to understand.
Jerry, shouldn't we be simplex? You're only one aisle over.
Nah, that squelch tail make us sound more important.

LOL...........
LMFAO that was great! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kc7gnm]

Quote[/b] (KB7GL @ Nov. 04 2007,14:38)]I think it's time for some adult supervision in this thread. The back & forth "in your face" is becoming tedious. Moderators...?
I already finished it but apparently Jerry does not wish to be an amateur radio operator if he thinks everyone is a whacker.

[KC5CSG]

Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 04 2007,18:48)]Quote[/b] (KB7GL @ Nov. 04 2007,14:38)]I think it's time for some adult supervision in this thread. The back & forth "in your face" is becoming tedious. Moderators...?
I already finished it but apparently Jerry does not wish to be an amateur radio operator if he thinks everyone is a whacker.
The difference between you and me:

I view Amateur Radio as a hobby. Something to do between other things that catch my interest. The internet being one of them of course.

You, and a lot of amateurs, somehow have this twisted sense that it's a lifestyle. You heap importance on something that is really quite trivial. Yeah sure, we're capable of providing emergency services but then again anyone with a radio can step up and do that job. That includes your CB buddies you all love. You're so into radio that you actually get insulted when someone calls your precious HT a CB? LOL...............get a life dude. You get offended when someone sees 50 extra lbs of hardware on some of your cars in the form of an antenna with what looks like a bird cage in the center of it and laughs.

I'll go even farther and say this. The day the US government has to rely on this sorry group of "amateurs" to supply our nation's communications needs is the day we need to step back and review our govenment's inability to not prepare. Seriously, if you get offended of what people call your equipment I can only guess how you'll act under pressure.

IT'S JUST A HOBBY.

here, I'll say it slower,

IT'S # # # # # # JUST # # # # A # # # HOBBY.

[kc7gnm]

Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 04 2007,22:03)]Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 04 2007,18:48)]Quote[/b] (KB7GL @ Nov. 04 2007,14:38)]I think it's time for some adult supervision in this thread. The back & forth "in your face" is becoming tedious. Moderators...?
I already finished it but apparently Jerry does not wish to be an amateur radio operator if he thinks everyone is a whacker.
The difference between you and me:

I view Amateur Radio as a hobby. Something to do between other things that catch my interest. The internet being one of them of course.

You, and a lot of amateurs, somehow have this twisted sense that it's a lifestyle. You heap importance on something that is really quite trivial. Yeah sure, we're capable of providing emergency services but then again anyone with a radio can step up and do that job. That includes your CB buddies you all love. You're so into radio that you actually get insulted when someone calls your precious HT a CB? LOL...............get a life dude. You get offended when someone sees 50 extra lbs of hardware on some of your cars in the form of an antenna with what looks like a bird cage in the center of it and laughs.

I'll go even farther and say this. The day the US government has to rely on this sorry group of "amateurs" to supply our nation's communications needs is the day we need to step back and review our govenment's inability to not prepare. Seriously, if you get offended of what people call your equipment I can only guess how you'll act under pressure.

IT'S JUST A HOBBY.

here, I'll say it slower,

IT'S JUST A HOBBY.
You really need to get a different hobby if you think all us amateurs are losers. I think you just stepped in a big pile of dung and are about to get heat rounds all aimed square at you.

[KC5CSG]

Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 04 2007,20:12)]Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 04 2007,22:03)]Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Nov. 04 2007,18:48)]Quote[/b] (KB7GL @ Nov. 04 2007,14:38)]I think it's time for some adult supervision in this thread. The back & forth "in your face" is becoming tedious. Moderators...?
I already finished it but apparently Jerry does not wish to be an amateur radio operator if he thinks everyone is a whacker.
The difference between you and me:

I view Amateur Radio as a hobby. Something to do between other things that catch my interest. The internet being one of them of course.

You, and a lot of amateurs, somehow have this twisted sense that it's a lifestyle. You heap importance on something that is really quite trivial. Yeah sure, we're capable of providing emergency services but then again anyone with a radio can step up and do that job. That includes your CB buddies you all love. You're so into radio that you actually get insulted when someone calls your precious HT a CB? LOL...............get a life dude. You get offended when someone sees 50 extra lbs of hardware on some of your cars in the form of an antenna with what looks like a bird cage in the center of it and laughs.

I'll go even farther and say this. The day the US government has to rely on this sorry group of "amateurs" to supply our nation's communications needs is the day we need to step back and review our govenment's inability to not prepare. Seriously, if you get offended of what people call your equipment I can only guess how you'll act under pressure.

IT'S JUST A HOBBY.

here, I'll say it slower,

IT'S # # # # # # JUST # # # # A # # # HOBBY.
You really need to get a different hobby if you think all us amateurs are losers. I think you just stepped in a big pile of dung and are about to get heat rounds all aimed square at you.
Oh yeah, your text is really going to cut me deep. Oh please, show me some mercy you keyboard commando you.

You guys probably were hooked on D&D as teens and comtemplated suicide when your level 12 characters met their end.

LOL!!!

[VO1GXG]

KC7GNM and KC5CSG , Do us all a favor and Shut up. Give it a rest. I carry a HT around with me because i like to be able to talk to my friends who are also hams. I don't own a cell phone mainly because i have no reason to own a cell phone because i don't have anyone to call. As for Radio being a lifestyle to some it is to some it is not. To me it is , Radio is on my mind 24/7 it is my life. IF you guys want to dish it out please call each other or go to a private message. You really are acting like children , I should know I AM still classified as a child! .

[KC5CSG]

Quote[/b] (VO1GXG @ Nov. 04 2007,21:10)]KC7GNM and KC5CSG , Do us all a favor and Shut up. Give it a rest. I carry a HT around with me because i like to be able to talk to my friends who are also hams. I don't own a cell phone mainly because i have no reason to own a cell phone because i don't have anyone to call. As for Radio being a lifestyle to some it is to some it is not. To me it is , Radio is on my mind 24/7 it is my life. IF you guys want to dish it out please call each other or go to a private message. You really are acting like children , I should know I AM still classified as a child! .
Well hopefully one of these days some girl will take your mind off of radio. You won't meet to many of those at a hamfest............

[w5klb]

Gee, after looking at this ongoing feud, I'm glad I joined the Navy.

Navy: Never Again Volunteer Yourself

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[KC5CSG]

Could be worse, you could be an astronaut

NASA= Never Accept Shuttle Assignments

[KG6YTZ]

Quote[/b] (KD7YPD @ Nov. 04 2007,09:22)]Now if I still used my old motorola brick phone....The young kids now use cell and weren't even born when the brick came out - they would probably ask if it was a CB.
Most of "These Kids Today" probably don't even know what CB is. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif It has been a very long time since the days when seemingly half the cars on the road were sporting CB antennas - even around here, I seldom see them any more except perhaps on Jeeps and big rigs - and I'd bet that most of them could never understand why anyone would want to use bulky radio equipment to talk back and forth when they can just as easily pull tiny little phones out of their pockets or purses.

These Kids Today wouldn't know what to think about that "brick." http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[n9lya]

Quote[/b] (w4bgn @ Nov. 01 2007,06:54)]I wonder why the average person opens their mouth before thinking, or getting the facts.

I can't count the times I have been asked if my HT is a CB or scanner.

Even the "kids" at work ask, even though they know I'm into ham radio.

When I bring it in, they look at me and say "breaker 19".

Just last night, a customer saw me carring the HT in my hand, not even turned on, then he smarts off "look, I'm a cop".

Maybe one day these people will grow up and get a life. This is very aggravating to me.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Get over it.... You cannot possibly educate everyone to the point that they start saying.. "Hi Mr. Ham Radio Operator, I see you are busy communicating.."


Never happen..

Get on with your life an dlet the ignorant ones live theirs..

They say its bliss...

73 jerry n9lya

[WD4CHP]

I drive a white Chevy S20 pickup .

I use a glass mounted 2 meter/440 glass mount antenna on the top of the reat window.

No one asks because it looks like just another utility company truck. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W5HTW]

Quote[/b] (KG6YTZ @ Nov. 06 2007,00:56)]Quote[/b] (KD7YPD @ Nov. 04 2007,09:22)]Now if I still used my old motorola brick phone....The young kids now use cell and weren't even born when the brick came out - they would probably ask if it was a CB.
Most of "These Kids Today" probably don't even know what CB is. :) It has been a very long time since the days when seemingly half the cars on the road were sporting CB antennas - even around here, I seldom see them any more except perhaps on Jeeps and big rigs - and I'd bet that most of them could never understand why anyone would want to use bulky radio equipment to talk back and forth when they can just as easily pull tiny little phones out of their pockets or purses.

These Kids Today wouldn't know what to think about that "brick." :)
CB is dead.

But I am wondering ... what will happen as the sunspot cycle climbs out of the dumps. Will it have a comback? Or will the would-be CBers find their way to legally be on ten meters?

Not even the Shadow knows!

Ed

[KD4IFB]

Quote[/b] (W5HTW @ Nov. 06 2007,08:14)]Quote[/b] (KG6YTZ @ Nov. 06 2007,00:56)]Quote[/b] (KD7YPD @ Nov. 04 2007,09:22)]Now if I still used my old motorola brick phone....The young kids now use cell and weren't even born when the brick came out - they would probably ask if it was a CB.
Most of "These Kids Today" probably don't even know what CB is. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #It has been a very long time since the days when seemingly half the cars on the road were sporting CB antennas - even around here, I seldom see them any more except perhaps on Jeeps and big rigs - and I'd bet that most of them could never understand why anyone would want to use bulky radio equipment to talk back and forth when they can just as easily pull tiny little phones out of their pockets or purses.

These Kids Today wouldn't know what to think about that "brick." #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
CB is dead.

But I am wondering ... what will happen as the sunspot cycle climbs out of the dumps. # Will it have #a comback? #Or will the would-be CBers find their way to legally be on ten meters? #

Not even the Shadow knows! #

Ed
I dont believe CB is dead. Maybe not as active today as it was some years back..But hams not the greatest its ever been either due to the cycle. What I do think is that it will come back to life as the cycle climbs, and it will be real active..Just like it will be here.

[wa9cwx]

Quote[/b] (wa9svd @ Nov. 01 2007,00:01)]Quote[/b] (KC5CSG @ Nov. 01 2007,18:39)][ Difference between you and I? Simple, you're in the store looking like a dork, and you should. I look normal.

Jerry
But looks can be deceiving.
[QUOTE]

Now THAT says it all !!

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[KD4IFB]

Well like I said in a earlier post. Its not dead, and if it affends you that someone is just curious, oh well stomp out mad they called it a CB.. Theyll never know until you tell them..So explain it to them.. They might just find it to be far more interesting than CB..Like the Ops boss who posted on here earlier..He now knew the difference,and even corrected a few folks..CB is going no where, and will be here as long as Ham radio will be..Its just right now its mainly used by Truckers and travelers etc...But they to are experiencing new problems with it not being as reliable as before..

[KD4IFB]

Maybe its here! Nope! sorry yall, you just missed out.. Maybe next time..

[k0cmh]

Well, to get back on the subject, the reality of life today is that Ham radio equipment does not impress anyone anymore. So, in most cases, having an HT or other such equipment "showing" will usually bring the kind of comments as the original post indicated.

I like to have an HT with me often, not 24/7, just often. That is a personal preference I have. However I know I have to live with the above statement. Also, "flashing" it is not my thing. No one care that I am a Ham and I would be embarrassed if people thought I was trying to show off.

Soooo, I usually have it under a jacket or coat in cold weather. In warm weather I put it with the clip on the outside of my belt and the majority of the HT inside the pants -- not much showing.

The small size of the newer HTs make it much easier.

Stealth -- prevents snide comments.

I hardly every get a look, let alone a comment . Most folks never realize it is there.

Ditto with my mobile dual bander. I have a plain Comet antenna mounted on the corner of the hood, so it looks as much like a regular car radio antenna as possible. Again, no one seem to notice, because I never get a question, "what is that antenna", or "is that a CB?". No one notices and no one asks. Also, no one has yet broken into the car and did off my my mobile. It kind of blends in with the rest of the electronics and gauges on the dash.

Stealth!