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al2n
10-04-2007, 05:15 PM
Interesting article.

http://politicalinquirer.com/2007/06/08/why-they-fear-ron-paul/





And now for your scheduled detractors in 5, 4, 3, 2, .......

al2i
10-04-2007, 05:26 PM
Quote[/b] (al2n @ Oct. 04 2007,09:15)]And now for your scheduled detractors in 5, 4, 3, 2, .......
Well, it is from some Internet guy named "Fooser"! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

He said this about the Great Republican Hope:

Quote[/b] ]People within the Republican party have made a living out of the terrorism platform. Rudy Giuliani wouldn’t even be up on the debate stage if it wasn’t for terrorism.

W3MIV
10-04-2007, 05:37 PM
It is wishful hyperbole to assert that anyone "fears" Ron Paul. Indeed, few things are more ludicrous than the idea of a "fearful" Paul. Sort of like Claribel with a megaphone. (May you ever RIP, Bob.)

A large element of the presidency, like it or not, is pure image. JFK had; Paul does not. Even Reagan had it; Paul lacks it is spades. These times cry out for a Roosevelt -- Roosevelt I, not II -- and Ron Paul is the Rick Moranis of this election. The American people, God bless 'em all, do not vote on the basis of ideas; indeed, ideas scare the bejeezus out of them.

This election may well come down to Giuliani versus Clinton strictly on the basis of images. Neither has ideas; worse, neither has morals. Won't matter to the electorate, which is solely interested in glitz.

What is needed is not an almost pornographic devotion to a midget without hope, but an earnest wave of work to derail the two leading contenders. Quoting months old internet blogs may help your political libido, but it will prove less than efficacious come time to pull a lever.

al2i
10-04-2007, 06:07 PM
Quote[/b] ]The attack on Ron Paul’s candidacy will begin in earnest when it appears he has an even remote possibility of winning. It will follow a fairly predictable path:

The first step is already in play. The establishment will start by simply ignoring him, by using its power in the mainstream media and their influence over campaign donors. If possible, they will find ways of excluding him from the debates.

This strategy is already failing. The internet and talk radio are outside the elite’s direct control and are being used effectively by Rep. Paul to "get the message out." (And mark my words, sooner or later the oligarchy will come for the internet. This medium has been a royal pain in their derriere from day one).

If this strategy fizzles, the establishment will move on to ridicule and fear mongering. Ron’s ideas will be grotesquely distorted in establishment media "hit pieces." They’ll say he wants to permit heroin use in public schools, or that he wants old people to die in the streets without their social security checks, or that he wants to allow greedy industrialists to dump toxic waste into our drinking water.

The next arrow in the oligarchy’s quiver will be scandal – real or fabricated. Usually, this takes the form of pictures, billing records, etc. involving financial or sexual hi-jinks. For folks with the right motivation and abilities, it would be child’s play to implicate him in some sort of phony ethical, moral, or financial skullduggery (e.g., doctored pictures, sordid media accounts from "eyewitnesses," etc.).

If Ron somehow survives this assault, the oligarchy will move on to the criminal justice system. On some fine day, a stretch limo will pull up to the Capitol Building and one of the establishment’s consiglieres (Jim Baker...or maybe Vernon Jordan) will ooze into Ron’s office for a "chat."

Maybe Rep. Paul forgot to fill out Form X109/23W on his 1997 income tax return?

Or maybe he drained a mud puddle when he built his new house...and maybe that puddle could theoretically be classified as a "wetland?"

Or, even better, maybe a close relative is in hot water with OSHA/FDA/IRS/you-name-it (federal prosecutors love to go after relatives in order to gain "leverage").

Paranoid Linque 8) (http://www.lewrockwell.com/latulippe/latulippe80.html)

al2n
10-04-2007, 06:09 PM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Oct. 04 2007,10:37)]This election may well come down to Giuliani versus Clinton strictly on the basis of images. Neither has ideas; worse, neither has morals. Won't matter to the electorate, which is solely interested in glitz.
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2706/rudy288980cc4.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1893/hillary22e417dti7.jpg

kc2orw
10-04-2007, 06:17 PM
Quote[/b] (al2n @ Oct. 04 2007,14:09)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Oct. 04 2007,10:37)]This election may well come down to Giuliani versus Clinton strictly on the basis of images. Neither has ideas; worse, neither has morals. Won't matter to the electorate, which is solely interested in glitz.
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2706/rudy288980cc4.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1893/hillary22e417dti7.jpg
Wow those are two ugly pictures whats worse is I ain't sure which is uglier http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

N3ATS
10-04-2007, 06:32 PM
It's definitely fear. But not necessarily fear of Ron Paul himself.

It's a fear that if a wealthy, glamorous, MSM (mainstream media) star doesn't win the Republican nomination, a Democrat will win the 2008 election.

The Republicans know they are losing the battle in the hearts and minds of people and they NEED a glitzy candidate to continue BS'ing the American electorate.

Americans are superficial and seem to think if the package is tied up in pretty ribbons, then what's inside must be equally as impressive.

It doesn't matter what the candidate stands for, all that matters is that he can win. So-called Republicans will support Giuliani, who is another liberal Bush clone, just because he has an R after his name and because he has star power.

It's ever obvious on this forum, when the most radical RINOs worship the ground Bush walks on, though his policies and decisions reflect very little on the core beliefs of a true Republican. The line between Republicans and Democrats is getting thinner and blurrier.

Unfortunately these party-liners are too stupid to see the difference, or lack of difference.

W3MIV
10-04-2007, 06:35 PM
Quote[/b] (al2n @ Oct. 04 2007,14:09)]http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2706/rudy288980cc4.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1893/hillary22e417dti7.jpg
Credit where credit is due: Rudolph looks better in drag than Hillary does any time. Robert Ripley could not have dreamed her up.

KC7UP
10-04-2007, 08:24 PM
Who cares http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Curt

KB1KIX
10-04-2007, 08:28 PM
I have to say..... I like the guy.

If he can make it past the primaries.... he'd get my vote.

I still stick with Thompson based on a good deal of my views and he is at least more electable in the polls.

What I do like about Ron Paul is the simple fact that he's a candidate that understands the Constitution.

Something that both parties lack nowadays.

Jonathan

W3MIV
10-04-2007, 08:29 PM
Quote[/b] (KC7UP @ Oct. 04 2007,16:24)]Who cares http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Curt
Bill.

KG4JYD
10-05-2007, 12:22 AM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Oct. 04 2007,10:37)]These times cry out for a Roosevelt -- Roosevelt I,

This election may well come down to Giuliani versus Clinton strictly on the basis of images. Neither has ideas; worse, neither has morals. Won't matter to the electorate, which is solely interested in glitz.
Roosevelt violated the Constitution over and over again and started us on the modern downfall of BAD foreign policy.

Rudy WON'T get the GOP nomination because he isn't conservative at all.

It'll be Paul or Thompson. Paul is the better candidate of the two for sure.

N2RJ
10-05-2007, 12:57 AM
I like Ron Paul on everything except his position on healthcare.

However, I think that he will be most dangerous if he decides to run as an Ind instead of a Rep.

He'll have the Ralph Nader effect and ensure Democratic victory, which is sad, because it basically means President Hillary.

N3ATS
10-05-2007, 12:58 AM
Quote[/b] (KG4JYD @ Oct. 04 2007,19:22)]Rudy WON'T get the GOP nomination because he isn't conservative at all.
Since when has that mattered to anyone? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

kc0ukk
10-05-2007, 01:26 AM
Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Oct. 04 2007,17:57)]I like Ron Paul on everything except his position on healthcare.

However, I think that he will be most dangerous if he decides to run as an Ind instead of a Rep. #

He'll have the Ralph Nader effect and ensure Democratic victory, which is sad, because it basically means President Hillary.
If Paul runs as an independent, Hillary will be elected, not Ron Paul. Hillary ahs solid support from 42% to 47% of the population who will vote for her even if she turns out to be another Mata Hari.

Gullianni is a moderate Democrat (just like Bush) and Ron Paul tells it like it isn't. Romney hasn't been as consistent as a man operating from principles should be. He may be sincere in his latest convictions, but as 'time loves a hero' there hasn't been enough time.

It's going to be Thompson or Hillary; all of our votes (no matter who we cast them for) will elect one of those two candidates. Take your pick.