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k5xs
10-01-2007, 06:54 PM
Does anyone else hear a strange signal on 14.220 MHz? It sounds like a mixture of 60 Hz hum and a superimposed seemingly random signal of noise bursts. It seems to be strongest on a bearing of 270 degrees (West) from here in Arkansas.

It has been a constant, steady signal all day long (1 October) with a signal strength of about S-9.

Is anyone else hearing it? Can you get a bearing on it from your QTH?

If you email me off list I will gladly send you a short (14 second) .wav file of what I am hearing.


73,
Bernie K5XS
k5xs at aol dot com

W5OTR
10-01-2007, 07:26 PM
I have it in Paris TX, about 100 miles northeast of dallas. This is the QRM capital of the world, I figured it was local... maybe not.... It is about s-9 here.

n4bfd
10-01-2007, 08:17 PM
It is S6-7 here in NC, with a bit of QSB at times. Wonder WTF it is?

I uploaded a clip, heres a link.

Click here to watch 14220mhz (http://media.putfile.com/14220mhz)

nz3m
10-01-2007, 08:29 PM
Sounds like a washing machine. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

nz3m
10-01-2007, 08:30 PM
BTW it's here in PA too, about S7

n4bfd
10-01-2007, 08:57 PM
Maybe a lid is washing his microphone with the vox turned on? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

n0nwo
10-01-2007, 09:28 PM
With poor band conditions, I did a beam heading test with the attinuater on.

I live in northern Minnesota, The strongest signal found with the attinuater on was due west.

try looking to the northern latitudes from the midwest to the west.

That is all the news from lake wobegone.

W4INF
10-01-2007, 10:31 PM
Maybe this... (http://tinyurl.com/3b8yfr)

kr9d
10-01-2007, 10:43 PM
Several on other lists I monitor have it peaking at azimuths of 270 from St. Louis, 280 from Chattanooga, 270 from Florida, 285-290 from Jacksonville, northwest from Roswell, and 210 from Bristol, VA.

To the extent there is convergence, it seems to be in the northern Nevada, northern California vicinity. I suppose that could be close enough to due west from Minnesota, too.

Rick "enjoying the hunt vicariously" Denney

n4bfd
10-01-2007, 11:14 PM
Geeze, it's actually getting stronger here in NC, going over S9 at times.

I wonder if it is someones VOX that was left on and a fan or something of that sort is keying the rig non stop.

kn4ds
10-01-2007, 11:38 PM
20 to 30 over here in central GA... then it'll fade, come back, sometimes as strong as 40 over.

No beam, so no way to determine the direction.

n4bfd
10-02-2007, 12:00 AM
It's gone now, don't know if it faded out or not, I just rolled past that part of the band and it is gone. Normally this time of night things peter out on 20m here.

WA9SVD
10-02-2007, 04:01 PM
Strange. I get the same thing about S5 in Long Beach, CA. No directional antenna, so no way to give a heading. 9:00 AM (1600 UTC; 2 October.)

n0nwo
10-02-2007, 04:40 PM
Quote[/b] (kr9d @ Oct. 01 2007,16:43)]Several on other lists I monitor have it peaking at azimuths of 270 from St. Louis, 280 from Chattanooga, 270 from Florida, 285-290 from Jacksonville, northwest from Roswell, and 210 from Bristol, VA.

To the extent there is convergence, it seems to be in the northern Nevada, northern California vicinity. I suppose that could be close enough to due west from Minnesota, too.

Rick "enjoying the hunt vicariously" Denney
I realize my beam heading is less than accurate because I am trying to find a peak instead of a null. My beam is a Hi-Gain exp14 which is a short beam. Front to back is not that great and nulls of the side are many and variable, but it is at least a starting point. I figure I eliminated about 3/4 of the country. Maybe others can narrow it down more.

Minton

n4bfd
10-02-2007, 04:42 PM
I hear it today, but it does not even register on my S meter.

W5OTR
10-02-2007, 05:52 PM
9+20 again today... anyone figure out what it is yet??

n2jso
10-02-2007, 06:08 PM
I don't hear anything on 14.220. Just a doublet here in NJ, so someone with a abetter antenna may hear something. I do hear PD1DX working DX on 14.221. There's some kind of noise at 14.224, but it sounds like typical switching power supply noise.

KE4YGS
10-02-2007, 07:00 PM
I checked it out earlier and I can identify it. Its fading between S0 and S4 in about a 29 second period. Sorry no Directional antenna. Maybe that will be an upgrade over the winter.

Scotty

ne6ao
10-02-2007, 07:32 PM
I have it here in gardena calif,S9 it sounds like a tire on a fwy the repitition rate seems like that

ne6ao
10-02-2007, 07:34 PM
Quote[/b] (KE4YGS @ Oct. 02 2007,12:00)]I checked it out earlier and I can identify it. #Its fading between S0 and S4 in about a 29 second period. #Sorry no Directional antenna. #Maybe that will be an upgrade over the winter.

Scotty
so you said you can or cannot identify it? if so what?

n9vo
10-02-2007, 07:38 PM
Don't worry about it! All I can say at this time is that it's originating from Area 51........Unable to release further info at this time............................... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

k2gsp
10-03-2007, 12:39 AM
Thank god it's not just me. I thought I was going to have to go on a hunt for interference source. I got it at 270 from Central FL. The signal was weaker today but still there. It's also very wide.

W5HTW
10-03-2007, 01:00 AM
I suspect this is a Top Secret communication link. There is a Catholic Bishop (true story) in Gallup, NM, who has called 911 to report little men in his home. He says there are four of them, and two of them hide from him. He says they wear costumes and they won't talk to him but they are "very nice." He isn't sure what they are doing in his home. The police have come out and can't find these "little men." My own opinion is they are altar boys, of course, as we know how that story goes.

But maybe this is their communications link back to the Mother Ship? This same bishop was injured seriously a couple of months ago, and is, in fact, home recovering from some bad injuries that had him hospitalized. He said he fell down the stairs in his home. Police doubt that, but have no proof a crime was committed.

Now he is seeing "little men." I think this is their "little wadio" back to their "little momma ship," for sending "little signals" home (on a wittle planet in a wittle star system a widdle distant from us) about widdle altar boys.

Me thinks this bishop is celebrating Halloween a dab early (widdle dab) or is reliving "The Attack Of The Vengeful Altar Boys."

(Widdle attack.)

The signal appears to be a third world idling crypto system. Probably from Korea??? At 7 PM MDT, it is fading from an S5 to S1 max, and I have noticed there is a variation in the rate of the "chugs." Not often, but at times they appear to speed up. Reminds me a bit of the Durango And Silverton Narrow Gauge Railway, chugging up the canyon. (Bringing more altar boys??)

Just noticed the chugging stopped briefly, half a second. Some sort of radar or data signal, not likely from the USA or any high tech country. Could be from China, but I'm betting on NK. It has just about faded out for me now.

Ed

kd5kfl
10-03-2007, 01:00 AM
Seems like an Alaskan and a Hawaiian need to get involved. It can't be 270 fom everywhere.

W5HTW
10-03-2007, 01:03 AM
Quote[/b] (kd5kfl @ Oct. 02 2007,18:00)]Seems like an Alaskan and a Hawaiian need to get involved. It can't be 270 fom everywhere.
Can if it's from North Korea.

N2RJ
10-03-2007, 01:13 AM
Quote[/b] (n2jso @ Oct. 02 2007,13:08)]I don't hear anything on 14.220. Just a doublet here in NJ, so someone with a abetter antenna may hear something. I do hear PD1DX working DX on 14.221. There's some kind of noise at 14.224, but it sounds like typical switching power supply noise.
I heard it this evening while waiting for the xyl at the newfoundland NJ transit bus park and ride.

It was about S-3.

This is in my car with a 6ft screwdriver antenna and my IC-7000 with the pre-amp on.

KE4YGS
10-03-2007, 01:48 AM
Quote[/b] (ne6ao @ Oct. 02 2007,12:34)]Quote[/b] (KE4YGS @ Oct. 02 2007,12:00)]I checked it out earlier and I can identify it. #Its fading between S0 and S4 in about a 29 second period. #Sorry no Directional antenna. #Maybe that will be an upgrade over the winter.

Scotty
so you said you can or cannot identify it? if so what?
Sorry for the confusion. I mean I can "find" the signal in question, I can hear it but I do NOT know what it is.

Poor choice of words on my part.

Scotty

kc9lwc
10-03-2007, 02:26 AM
Bearing 270 from West-Central Wisconsin... S9 to +20 over .....

kn4ds
10-03-2007, 02:31 AM
How can it be bearing 270 from everywhere?!?!

It would seem to not be natural, as I was doing other things and just left it on for a while earlier... it stops now and then.

KC5CSG
10-03-2007, 03:32 AM
Maybe it's our new "russian woodpecker".

LOL


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Woodpecker

You'll love the antenna array on the above link.
Jerry

n7rjd
10-03-2007, 03:40 AM
Quote[/b] (AB3BK @ Oct. 01 2007,06:29)]Sounds like a washing machine. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
It's about time someone cleaned up the bands. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

kc2lsa
10-03-2007, 04:18 AM
got it in VA 2100-2200 UTC, made a recording if needed...

W0UZR
10-03-2007, 04:44 AM
The quarmer is LOVING all the signal reports!

kn4ds
10-03-2007, 04:50 AM
Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Oct. 03 2007,00:44)]The quarmer is LOVING all the signal reports!
What, pray tell, is a quarmer?

I hear people saying that now and then on the bands... I suspect they are referring to those who intentionally cause QRM, but I've never been certain.

W0UZR
10-03-2007, 06:13 AM
Quote[/b] (KE4UWL @ Oct. 02 2007,22:50)]Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Oct. 03 2007,00:44)]The quarmer is #LOVING #all the signal reports!
What, pray tell, is a quarmer?

I hear people saying that now and then on the bands... I suspect they are referring to those who intentionally cause QRM, but I've never been certain.
Good Guess!

W5HTW
10-03-2007, 05:57 PM
Quote[/b] (KE4UWL @ Oct. 02 2007,21:50)]Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Oct. 03 2007,00:44)]The quarmer is LOVING all the signal reports!
What, pray tell, is a quarmer?

I hear people saying that now and then on the bands... I suspect they are referring to those who intentionally cause QRM, but I've never been certain.
Never heard that used on the air. I hope I never do. I think it is "interspeak." I certainly hope so. More hinternet language.


Besides that, the "quarmer" (barf!) isn't listening. He/she/it has no idea anyone is complaining.

New words:

Quarmer - Someone doing QRM??
QRERTY (nope, not a keyboard. Someone who is QRT'ing.)
Qwisser - Someone who is QSY'ing.
Qwerper - Someone running low power.
Queso - nope, not a Mexican cheese. Someone who is having a QSO.
Quercoer - Running high power
Querquer - running faster Morse
Querventy - "What's ur twenty?"
Quererszon - "Got ur ears on?"

WA9SVD
10-03-2007, 06:07 PM
Quote[/b] (KE4UWL @ Oct. 02 2007,19:31)]How can it be bearing 270 from everywhere?!?!

It would seem to not be natural, as I was doing other things and just left it on for a while earlier... it stops now and then.
It must be Eric up there in Alaska doing some HF research. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

It's still here in Wrong Beach in So. California. Not much change in strength. I just check occasionally, so I can't say if it stops and starts or is continuous. Strength doesn't change significantly with time.

n2jso
10-03-2007, 06:18 PM
Quote[/b] (n2jso @ Oct. 02 2007,13:08)]I don't hear anything on 14.220. Just a doublet here in NJ, so someone with a abetter antenna may hear something. I do hear PD1DX working DX on 14.221. There's some kind of noise at 14.224, but it sounds like typical switching power supply noise.
OK, now I can hear it. Peaking up to S3 (no pre-amp). I was beginning to think I was the victim of a practical joke. I knew the antenna wasn't busted, Europe has been booming in today.

N4AUD
10-03-2007, 07:34 PM
Nada here today, Southwestern VA, 1930z.

W5HTW
10-03-2007, 09:11 PM
Began to fade by mid morning, S5 down to S0, 'not heard', was in and out.

At some point I heard a data signal weakly (Winlink, most likely, too weak to tell) that did not appear to be the same thing. By noon just SSB signals.

I really do suspect this is originating in the Far East somewhere, China, Russia, N. Korea. With Calif stations booming in here, the signal is gone, so it is not West Coast. In fact, it appears strongest on gray line prop, disappears late evening, disappears mid day. Not on the North American continent.

Ed

W6GQ
09-02-2008, 04:01 AM
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