The Myth Of The LIBERAL Media BUSTED. [Archive]

n2nh

09-21-2007, 02:57 PM

The Right's extremist conspiracy theory of the "Liberal" media has been exposed for what it is.

Oddly enough, papers with more balance have been found to have higher circulation. This proves that the strangle hold the right has on media is why the media isn't selling. The propaganda is being rejected by the realities of the marketplace.

Quote[/b] ]This project did something that has never been done before: It amassed data on the syndicated columnists published by nearly every daily newspaper in the country. While a few publications, most notably Editor & Publisher, cover the syndicated newspaper industry, no one has attempted to comprehensively assemble this information prior to now. Because the syndicates refuse to reveal to the public exactly where their columnists are published, when Media Matters for America set out to make a systematic assessment of the syndicated columnist landscape, we had no choice but to contact each paper individually and ask which syndicated columnists are published on their op-ed pages.

The results show that in paper after paper, state after state, and region after region, conservative syndicated columnists get more space than their progressive counterparts...

That explains why Murdoch loss leaders like the NY Post & Village Voice are given away free here doesn't it. (http://mediamatters.org/reports/oped/report)

I can't wait to get my free Murdoch Wall St. Journal too.
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kc2orw

09-21-2007, 03:03 PM

NH you keep leaving out the Lefts conspiracy theories. Now come on you can name them... I hope...

n2nh

09-21-2007, 03:08 PM

You mean the one about how, late at night, when everyone is asleep, the tooth fairy does her other job. Being a succubus that visits neocon houses and sucks their brains out. And when they wake up, they never stop drooling and listening to people tell them how to think.

Is that the one you mean?
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kc2orw

09-21-2007, 03:17 PM

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Sep. 21 2007,11:08)]You mean the one about how, late at night, when everyone is asleep, the tooth fairy does her other job. Being a succubus that visits neocon houses and sucks their brains out. And when they wake up, they never stop drooling and listening to people tell them how to think.

Is that the one you mean?
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No NH the ten or so theories and sub theories I hear repeated daily.

I usually don't bother to reply to some topics from some people. But today I was on a short anti conspiracy theory tirade, like I said short not much point in bothering sometimes... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

W4HAY

09-21-2007, 03:29 PM

Ah, yes! Good ol' Media Matters, another of Soros' propaganda puppets.

Quote[/b] ]...Soros also has financed spin outfits such as Media Matters that specialize in providing distorted conservative political statements as grist for leftist politicians and media.

Media Matters (and MoveOn.org) succeeded last year in denying incumbent Lieberman the Democratic nomination for Senate in Connecticut and effectively drove the moderate out of his own party. Net result: Fewer Democrats, including today's crop running for office, are willing to challenge any Soros-financed pressure group...
Complete article here: (http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=275181103776079)

N8UZE

09-21-2007, 03:40 PM

1. #Who did the survey?
2. #What are their qualifications to do this survey?
3. #What criteria was used to evaluate the liberalism/conservatism of the columns?
4. #Was it based on actual column content or on whether the author was perceived to liberal or conservative by their actions or lifestyles?
5. #How did the newspapers breakdown in terms of circulation? #Not just a statement that balanced ones did better. #Comparing national to large city to small papers can either enhance or obscure the data.
6. #Did they evaluate ONLY opinion columns or news stories? #The opinion columns could be conservative while the news stories might be quite liberal in the way they are reported. #Many conservatives are referring to how news is reported not the op ed pieces.

Finally "the media" is more than just newspapers.

K3XR

09-21-2007, 04:13 PM

LIB media, not possible.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15821/print

KB1KIX

09-21-2007, 04:20 PM

Not to mention.... he's quoting media matters......

LOL,

We've had the media matters discusion here before.

Jonathan

n4sva

09-21-2007, 04:25 PM

Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Sep. 21 2007,03:20)]Not to mention.... he's quoting media matters......

LOL,

We've had the media matters discusion here before.

Jonathan
Ah yes, the one anti-Fox News article-a-day Media Bladders.

Now THERE is a reliable source.

KB1KIX

09-21-2007, 04:26 PM

Media Matters is a liberal blog.

Period.

Jonathan

K2WH

09-21-2007, 04:28 PM

I think N2NH and K3XR are one and the same person only "Fair and Balanced". If not, we are witnessing "Link Wars".

K2WH

K3XR

09-21-2007, 04:38 PM

LIB media, not possible.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/09/times_reviewer_savages_new_ken.html)

K3XR

09-21-2007, 04:39 PM

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 21 2007,09:28)]I think N2NH and K3XR are one and the same person only "Fair and Balanced". #If not, we are witnessing "Link Wars".

K2WH
Could it be, we have two robots on the ZED??

K3XR

09-21-2007, 09:14 PM

Who else but the LIB media would invite this maniac to speak. (Yes, I know, LEFTIST Columbia University.
http://newsbusters.org/node/15827/print

KB1KIX

09-21-2007, 09:17 PM

Leftist.... that's just plain socialist.

I can't believe their letting that little monkey speak.

Wouldn't bee too bad if they at least had someone with a brain up there to banter with him... who... don't care.

Hell, that could be a G. Gordon Liddy special, LOL.

Jonathan

K0RGR

09-21-2007, 11:36 PM

If Columbia University doesn't screen for rotten fruit at the Iranian crackpot's speech, they might be doing us a great favor.

n2ize

09-22-2007, 12:08 AM

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 21 2007,14:14)]Who else but the LIB media would invite this maniac to speak. (Yes, I know, LEFTIST Columbia University.
http://newsbusters.org/node/15827/print
The only reason Columbia University is "leftist", is because the people who attend Columbia are smarter than the average neocon. I'd like to see some of the neocons who criticize Columbia get in much less graduate.

And why shouldn't they invite the president of Iran to speak ? It seems to me a sensible idea whether you agree with him or vehemently hate him. The more one says the more they reveal. Of course that is a foreign concept to today's neocon.

Oh and for you non-thinking neocon Limbaugh parrots here is a bit of a twist. I attended one of the most conservative religious Universities in New York. A school that graduated G. Gordon Liddy and routinely invited Rudolf Guiliani onto campus. And yet Pax Christi (a "leftist religious pacifist group" as you neocons would call them) frequently invited what would be construed as leftists like Nicaragua's Ortega, and various labor and peoples liberation groups from El' Salvador as well as left wing anti war nuns, etc. onto campus. Just because a particular person appears as a speaker on a given campus does NOT mean the school in question endorses his politics or ideology.

kf6rdn

09-22-2007, 01:38 AM

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 21 2007,08:28)]I think N2NH and K3XR are one and the same person only "Fair and Balanced". If not, we are witnessing "Link Wars".

K2WH
Lol! Egad! Yin & Yang 'bots.

Who's Yin & who is Yang?
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KB1KIX

09-22-2007, 02:40 AM

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Sep. 21 2007,20:08)]The only reason Columbia University is "leftist", is because the people who attend Columbia are smarter than the average neocon. I'd like to see some of the neocons who criticize Columbia get in much less graduate.
olitics or ideology.
Nah, it's leftist because it's a "commie college".

Conservatives go to school that actually teach the facts.

Jonathan

n2ize

09-22-2007, 03:02 AM

Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Sep. 21 2007,19:40)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Sep. 21 2007,20:08)]The only reason Columbia University is "leftist", is because the people who attend Columbia are smarter than the average neocon. I'd like to see some of the neocons who criticize Columbia get in much less graduate.
olitics or ideology.
Nah, it's leftist because it's a "commie college".

Conservatives go to school that actually teach the facts.

Jonathan
Well if Columbia is a commie college it does pretty well as a degree from Columbia is quite impressive on a resume, even when that resume is forwarded to a conservative corporation. Of course I am sure the typical neocon would tear up the letter of acceptance to Columbia and/or turn down a scholarship in the event their sons or daughters were to earn such scholarship

Meanwhile, I'd much rather have a degree from a commie college like Columbia or,..., heaven forbid NYU in Greenwich Village, or Sarah Lawrence than a certificate from the Rush Limnbaugh radio institute of brainwashed neocon idiocy.

kg6amw

09-22-2007, 01:51 PM

Where does the American left stand on the many courtesies Columbia University is extending to Mahmoud Ahmadenijad? And what do America’s progressives have to say, if anything, about the even more disgusting idea that Ahmadenijad pay a gloating visit to Ground Zero? The questions are more than rhetorical. To date, the silence from the American left on these matters has been deafening. Unless I’ve missed something, the doyenne of American liberalism and the house organ for the Democratic Party, the Grey Lady herself, has uttered nary a peep on the matter. But who’s kidding who? The New York Times doesn’t set anyone’s agenda these days. The facile explanation would be that the American left so thoroughly despises George W. Bush that it instinctively empathizes with anyone hostile to Bush, not bothering to ponder whether any such figure may bear ill-will not only for George W. Bush but for all Americans.

n2nh

09-22-2007, 01:56 PM

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 21 2007,12:28)]I think N2NH and K3XR are one and the same person only "Fair and Balanced". If not, we are witnessing "Link Wars".

K2WH
Well stated strawman. NOT! I have, when I see it, posted about Democratic Party problems. Note, corrupt Democrats in NJ. Their inability to do anything they were elected to do. Their lame excuses for allowing this war to continue.

3XR OTOH, has yet to post a single thread that I've seen that is critical of the GOP. A one trick pony if I've ever seen one.

Don't worry WH, Dorothy and her mutt will be along soon and take you to the wizard.
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n2nh

09-22-2007, 02:31 PM

Quote[/b] (W4HAY @ Sep. 21 2007,11:29)]Ah, yes! Good ol' Media Matters, another of Soros' propaganda puppets...
So, you quote a blog to disprove a site that has real news. Why am I surprised? As usual, the Right has no idea what a FACT is.

As far as criteria, just click the link. It's all there. But God forbid, that you actually try that.

K3XR

09-22-2007, 04:44 PM

More LIB media myth busted???

http://newsbusters.org/node/15833/print

n2nh

09-22-2007, 06:41 PM

One guy on "Today" - which is morning entertainment, being compared to thousands of newspapers.

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K3XR

09-22-2007, 07:12 PM

Just like Jello, always room for another LIB media "myth".

http://newsbusters.org/node/15836/print

K3XR

09-23-2007, 02:24 AM

Hate to pile on, but did you say LIB media myth???

http://newsbusters.org/node/15845/print

n2nh

09-23-2007, 09:42 AM

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 22 2007,15:12)]Just like Jello, always room for another LIB media "myth".

http://newsbusters.org/node/15836/print
Search for Rangel + AMT (http://news.google.com/news?source=ig&hl=en&q=rangel+amt&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn)

Seems to me there's plenty of coverage. The NY Sun, Bloomberg, The Washington Post, Reuters, CBS News etc.

Nothing like rhetoric based in manure to bring out the flies.
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n2nh

09-23-2007, 09:46 AM

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 22 2007,22:24)]Hate to pile on, but did you say LIB media myth???

http://newsbusters.org/node/15845/print
Who'd accuse you of piling on Danno? Just point him out, so I can shake his hand. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Yep, it's a Liberal Media Myth that the ice sheets have been proven to be melting in Greenland. They paid that scientist for the last 3 or 4 decades to dig this up just so they could report it. And all that melting ice? We know that those stories of cities just flooding and being buried under the ocean is definitely a myth. All the water from that ice? It's going down the drains and sewers and will end up in the...

...ocean?

Just because you don't like the truth doesn't mean it's a myth.
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n2ize

09-23-2007, 11:01 AM

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Sep. 21 2007,07:57)]The Right's extremist conspiracy theory of the "Liberal" media has been exposed for what it is. #

Oddly enough, papers with more balance have been found to have higher circulation. # This proves that the strangle hold the right has on media is why the media isn't selling. #The propaganda is being rejected by the realities of the marketplace.

Quote[/b] ]This project did something that has never been done before: It amassed data on the syndicated columnists published by nearly every daily newspaper in the country. While a few publications, most notably Editor & Publisher, cover the syndicated newspaper industry, no one has attempted to comprehensively assemble this information prior to now. Because the syndicates refuse to reveal to the public exactly where their columnists are published, when Media Matters for America set out to make a systematic assessment of the syndicated columnist landscape, we had no choice but to contact each paper individually and ask which syndicated columnists are published on their op-ed pages.

The results show that in paper after paper, state after state, and region after region, conservative syndicated columnists get more space than their progressive counterparts...

That explains why Murdoch loss leaders like the NY Post & Village Voice are given away free here doesn't it. (http://mediamatters.org/reports/oped/report)

I can't wait to get my free Murdoch Wall St. Journal too.
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Yeah but the first rule of statistics is data is meaningless unless it proves a neocon point of view.

n2ize

09-23-2007, 11:03 AM

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Sep. 23 2007,02:46)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 22 2007,22:24)]Hate to pile on, but did you say LIB media myth???

http://newsbusters.org/node/15845/print
Who'd accuse you of piling on Danno? #Just point him out, so I can shake his hand. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Yep, it's a Liberal Media Myth that the ice sheets have been proven to be melting in Greenland. #They paid that scientist for the last 3 or 4 decades to dig this up just so they could report it. #And all that melting ice? #We know that those stories of cities just flooding and being buried under the ocean is definitely a myth. #All the water from that ice? #It's going down the drains and sewers and will end up in the...

...ocean?

Just because you don't like the truth doesn't mean it's a myth.
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And it's all true because it is in America's most turned to and most trusted news source... The NewsBusters Blog

n2nh

09-23-2007, 11:11 AM

Quote[/b] ]In a September 9 entry on The Washington Post's The Trail blog, staff writer Dan Balz reported presidential candidate and Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) statement that "Today, leading presidential candidates vote against funding for our troop engaged in the war in Afghanistan and Iraq." Balz added: "Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) both voted against an Iraq funding bill earlier this year," referring to their May 24 votes against a war funding bill that did not include a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. But as Media Matters for America repeatedly noted in response to other media figures' uncritical reporting of similar attacks by McCain or his staff, <span style='color:red'>McCain himself voted against an emergency spending bill that funded the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq on March 29, which President Bush ultimately vetoed, citing its provision for a withdrawal timetable.</span>

Washington Post Conservative MSM. (http://mediamatters.org/items/200709090006?f=i_related)

Either that or... McCain's a filthy commie, facist, socialist LIB??!?

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K3XR

09-24-2007, 01:11 AM

If you know the LIB media, you already figured this one out.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/09/the_times_fesses_up_about_the.html)

K3XR

09-26-2007, 12:11 AM

These LIB media myths are falling like leaves.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15911/print

K3XR

09-26-2007, 12:55 PM

Even a LIB "stunned" by LIB NPR.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15925/print

K3XR

09-27-2007, 09:39 PM

PBS fair and balanced.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15964/print

N9XR

09-27-2007, 09:43 PM

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 27 2007,09:39)]PBS fair and balanced.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15964/print
You're slipping there Danno. You are using Salon.com as a reference to back your point.

You are well on your way to voting a straight Democratic ticket if you don't watch out.

Quote[/b] ]Even the leftist site Salon.com [7] knows the Smiley score. Years of commentary on Tom Joyner's incredibly influential black radio show and as host and executive producer of "BET Tonight," a public affairs show that ran from 1996 to 2001, has made Smiley the Negro Larry King (and a multimillionaire). Safe in the knowledge they'd be pelted with loving softballs, everybody who was anybody in black America did his show, including then President Bill Clinton and candidate Gore.

Edit: Added 3XR reference

K3XR

09-28-2007, 09:40 PM

No wonder they wanted to skip the debate.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15992/print

n2nh

09-28-2007, 10:31 PM

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 28 2007,17:40)]No wonder they wanted to skip the debate.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15992/print
Gosh, Danno, you mean that the bad man might've said something they didn't like, so they had the right to not come to the debate and diss all those minorities?

But, but, Danno, weren't you the one that said that the Democrats had a yellow streak when they wouldn't go to Faux News' debate because they got sick and tired of their spin. Not once or twice like this guy, but on an hourly basis?

Oh that's right, the Democrats were just listening to their masters, MoveOn and Soros weren't they?

Things must be slow in the Rightwingoverse.
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KC2KFC

09-28-2007, 11:51 PM

I've found this to be an interesting study of media bias.
A Measure of Media Bias (http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm)

K3XR

09-29-2007, 01:17 AM

Come on Chris, cheer up, not all your guests are kool-aid drinkers.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15998/print

K3XR

09-29-2007, 09:20 PM

Did you read this in the NY Slimes???

http://newsbusters.org/node/16010/print

n2ize

09-29-2007, 09:22 PM

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Sep. 28 2007,15:31)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 28 2007,17:40)]No wonder they wanted to skip the debate.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15992/print
Gosh, Danno, you mean that the bad man might've said something they didn't like, so they had the right to not come to the debate and diss all those minorities?

But, but, Danno, weren't you the one that said that the Democrats had a yellow streak when they wouldn't go to Faux News' debate because they got sick and tired of their spin. #Not once or twice like this guy, but on an hourly basis?

Oh that's right, the Democrats were just listening to their masters, MoveOn and Soros weren't they?

Things must be slow in the Rightwingoverse.
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Good point but you won't get a response. You'll just get a dozen more newsbusters links.

n2ize

09-29-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote[/b] (KC2KFC @ Sep. 28 2007,16:51)]I've found this to be an interesting study of media bias.
A Measure of Media Bias (http://www.polisci.ucla.edu/faculty/groseclose/Media.Bias.8.htm)
Here's another study from an equally (actually a more) reputable source.

Media Bias (http://www.socialistworker.org/2002-2/414/414_08_MediaBias.shtml)

Actually, although I question the broad agenda of the source their synopss of the mainstream corporate media does make a great deal of sense. Why would big business sabotoge itself via the promotion of a "anti-capitalist liberal agenda" ?

n2ize

09-29-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 29 2007,14:20)]Did you read this in the NY Slimes???

http://newsbusters.org/node/16010/print
Did you read this on Americanstinker ? seems the CONS are having theor pants fall down.

CONS can't Hide the Truth (http://www.socialistworker.org/2002-1/403/403_02_GlobalWarming.shtml)

K3XR

10-02-2007, 08:38 PM

More LIB media myths.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs....silence (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2007/10/02/medias-moment-silence)

K3XR

10-04-2007, 10:59 AM

No LIB media bias here.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16113/print

K3XR

10-07-2007, 07:10 PM

Keep those LIB media "myths" coming.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16177/print

W4DFW

10-08-2007, 12:40 AM

Sorry, I'm one of those slow, dumb conservatives . . . it takes me awhile to understand all this high-fallutin' intellectual analysis of Columbia University and that so called "Freedom" of speech crap they hide behind in order to let the likes of that dimwitted President of Iran to shake them down.

Don't believe me??

Well, let's just invite the Grand Wizard of the KKK to Columbia to discuss the advantages of White Supremacy. Now doubt, the left wingnuts would scream FOWL while they tarred and feathered themselves in order to show support for the Black Community.

In a rational society, some forms of speech are no longer worth protecting, so bizarre they have become and/or so deeply disturbing to a learned society. Thus is why the Grand Wizard ain't likely to show up anytime soon at Columbia, an institution that nevertheless says "Freedom" of speech is paramount.

Right.

Just as our society has reasoned sanely that racism is despicable and has no place in an advanced society, I would argue that the eructations of the mentally ill President of Iran who dares to question whether the Holocaust occurred are barely worthy of a kindergarten's afternoon nap time, much less the time of the self-proclaimed intellectually superior "lib'rul lunes" at Columbia University.

Me-thinks they forgot their mats for their afternoon nap.

I could be wrong.

n2ize

10-08-2007, 01:05 AM

Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Oct. 07 2007,17:40)]Sorry, I'm one of those slow, dumb conservatives . . . it takes me awhile to understand all this high-fallutin' intellectual analysis of Columbia University and that so called "Freedom" of speech crap they hide behind in order to let the likes of that dimwitted President of Iran to shake them down. #

Don't believe me??

Well, let's just invite the Grand Wizard of the KKK to Columbia to discuss the advantages of White Supremacy. #Now doubt, the left wingnuts would scream FOWL while they tarred and feathered themselves in order to show support for the Black Community. #

In a rational society, some forms of speech are no longer worth protecting, so bizarre they have become and/or so deeply disturbing to a learned society. #Thus is why the Grand Wizard ain't likely to show up anytime soon at Columbia, an institution that nevertheless says "Freedom" of speech is paramount. #

Right.

Just as our society has reasoned sanely that racism is despicable and has no place in an advanced society, I would argue that the eructations of the mentally ill President of Iran who dares to question whether the Holocaust occurred are barely worthy of a kindergarten's afternoon nap time, much less the time of the self-proclaimed intellectually superior "lib'rul lunes" at Columbia University.

Me-thinks they forgot their mats for their afternoon nap. #

I could be wrong.
Why wouldn't they sponsor the head of the Ku Klux Klan if he had something worthwhile to say. Generally intelligent people are capable of listening to opposing viewpoints and deciding the morals and ethics of such persons without turning into rabid mindless goons. That's a trait that is apparently absent from todays neocon judging from the way they latch onto the word of some without thought or reason.

W4DFW

10-08-2007, 03:38 AM

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Oct. 06 2007,21:05)]Why wouldn't they sponsor the head of the Ku Klux Klan if he had something worthwhile to say.
Please tell me what the lune from Iran said that was worthwhile. You'll understand if I don't stay up to await your reply, right??

K3XR

10-08-2007, 12:21 PM

Who needs facts??

http://newsbusters.org/node/16180/print

kg6amw

10-08-2007, 01:55 PM

Smart business models and marketing strategies and audiences draining away from the networks and liberal cable networks. For whom does the bell toll? It tolls for thee, CNBC.

K3XR

10-08-2007, 02:11 PM

Wonder why??

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=28930

K3XR

10-09-2007, 11:43 AM

Moveon.org or ABC news, same thing.
http://newsbusters.org/node/16204/print

K3XR

10-11-2007, 02:00 PM

Google in bed with moveon.org??

http://sweetness-light.com/archive....gop-ads (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/google-bans-anti-moveonorg-pro-gop-ads)

K3XR

10-13-2007, 11:04 PM

Clinton News Network, at it again.

http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/13/cnn-airs-footage-of-home-safe-house-of-artist-marked-for-death-by-al-qaeda/?print=1)

K3XR

10-14-2007, 04:50 PM

Sorry doom and gloom LIBS, hope this good news for America won't upset you, too much.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16348/print

K3XR

10-15-2007, 04:51 PM

NY Slimes, doing what they do best.

http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/15/must-read-did-the-new-york-times-compromise-a-terror-investigation/?print=1)

K3XR

10-16-2007, 02:17 AM

LIB media...myth.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs....sm-bush (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2007/10/15/sanchez-blasts-media-media-only-highlight-his-criticism-bush)

K3XR

10-18-2007, 04:07 AM

Some days the good news is just too much.

http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/17/morgan-stanley-sells-off-entire-nyt-stake/?print=1)

KB1KIX

10-19-2007, 09:09 PM

http://msunderestimated.com/ScaryFox.jpg

K3XR

10-22-2007, 05:06 PM

NYT "true believers".

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/nyt_aint_that_america.html)

K3XR

10-24-2007, 10:57 AM

Forget something, lame stream LIB media??

http://newsbusters.org/node/16594/print

K3XR

10-26-2007, 07:06 PM

NYT LIB media joke.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16659/print

K3XR

10-28-2007, 06:06 PM

"The View" biased against the Right, how can that be??
http://newsbusters.org/node/16698/print

K3XR

10-28-2007, 08:50 PM

Neo-Commie Pacifica Radio.
http://newsbusters.org/node/16689/print

K3XR

10-29-2007, 07:05 PM

"Depressogenic" LIBS and the lame stream media.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/our_depressogenic_media.html)

K3XR

10-30-2007, 04:33 PM

Main stream LIB media favors DEMS.
http://newsbusters.org/node/16742/print

N9XR

10-30-2007, 04:35 PM

Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Oct. 19 2007,09:09)]http://msunderestimated.com/ScaryFox.jpg
You should see the size of their you-know-whats over there!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

K3XR

10-31-2007, 11:29 AM

Myth this.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16759/print

http://newsbusters.org/blogs....es-hes- (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2007/10/31/was-sex-offending-lawmakers-party-affiliation-mentioned-yes-hes-)

K3XR

10-31-2007, 05:10 PM

Lib media influencing elections, again.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/media_establishment_buries_pol.html)

N5NPO

10-31-2007, 05:23 PM

More right wing extremeist, neo-con venomous hate, biggoted, little school bus rideing, rabid Bush loving, kool-aid drinking, uh-uh....., meanie republican, uh.... war mongering cowboy, mindless driveling spew from k3xr.... You make me sick man! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

K3XR

10-31-2007, 07:06 PM

Whoops, missed these headlines in the lame stream media.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/10/missing_headlines_leftwing_vot_1.html)

K3XR

11-01-2007, 03:47 PM

More good news for America.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16800/print

K3XR

11-02-2007, 03:20 AM

There's no party going on here.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16812/print

K3XR

11-02-2007, 12:21 PM

Even Harvard has the LIB media figured out.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16825/print

W4HAY

11-02-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote[/b] ]The debate is over. A consensus has been reached. On global warming? No, on how Democrats are favored on television, radio and in the newspapers.

Just like so many reports before it, a joint survey by the Project for Excellence in Journalism and Harvard's Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy — hardly a bastion of conservative orthodoxy — found that in covering the current presidential race, the media are sympathetic to Democrats and hostile to Republicans.

*****
The media, of course, insist they are careful to keep personal opinions out of their coverage. But the facts tell another story — one that can't be edited or spiked.
HAHVAHD SURVEY DETAILS: (http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=278808786575124)

N1LAF

11-03-2007, 01:44 AM

We need to show the chart....

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/images/editimg/issues03110207.gif

n2nh

11-03-2007, 06:11 AM

Did you ever think that the coverage is negative because the policies of the right are negative? That these stories are negative because of the behavior of those in the Republican and Conservative parties?

News is news. And all this moaning from the same people who constantly crow about O'Reilly's and Limbaugh's ratings. Well, now they're admitting the folly of Conservative media. Woe is us, the media isn't saying what we want to hear.

Basically, what HAY has posted is an editorial of a survey. Sadly, as usual, the Opinion page gives no link other than a passing attribution to those who did the study. The study, which is here (http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/presspol/miscellaneous/invisible_primary.pdf) paints a different picture than the cherrypicked information seems to assert based on IBD's very biased fringe right opinion. Did you know that according to this same report, Hillary Clinton's coverage is also negative? Even more so than the coverage that Rudy Giuliani has been given? Oddly enough, the reason for both the negativity and the fact that Clinton is getting the most attention is the coverage that she is getting from Conservative talk show hosts! Yet in this "opinion" that fact in the report THEY are quoting has conveniently been ignored.

They found that most of the positive coverage was going to Obama, and most of the negative coverage was goint to McCain. Take those two candidates out and *VOILA!* the playing field is level.

The real reason for the report was not so much to show a partisian slant, but to alert news organizations that the public isn't satisfied with news coverage. Why? Because the public wants to know more about the candidates positions on the issues, their personal lives, their debates, dark horse candidates and sources of their funding. Not how the candidates fare in their own party and relative to it, which is how most of the news is covered right now.

Isn't that pretty much what is discussed on QRZ? Seems there's more pertinent information here than in the news in general.

There's much more there, but this is yet another reason why an OPINION piece, like this one in Investors Business Daily, that is cherrypicking information way out of context is never going to be as informative or accurate as the original source or real news. That's why I encourage everybody who is reading this to click on the link above and get the whole story straight from the source and not to rely on opinion whether it be right OR left.

Maybe it's the message? Maybe it's the policy?

No, it's the "Liberal" Media. Yeh. Okay. Sounds exactly like conspiracy theorists clutching at straws to bolster their moonbat arguement. Really read the report and get the whole story.

wv6z

11-03-2007, 09:15 AM

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d148/ku4my/inhaleexhale.jpg

N1LAF

11-03-2007, 12:18 PM

John, its not about the content, its about the tone, attitude. I'll give you an easy example.

Many, many years ago on WTIC TV channel 61, anchor Pat Sheehan started with a story like this - "Well, well, well, Dan Quayle is renting an apartment to an unmarried couple. Well, well, well"

I think you can see the tone is obviously negative, even before going into the story. And first of it all, this is not a story that merits being published. What they (media, anchor) wanted to point out that Quayle, with his convictions, is renting to an unmarried couple, which would be against his convictions. Can you see the tone here?

IS it really a big deal that someone, a couple is renting an apartment? Happens all the time. But the media went out of its way to try to make it negative and against Quayle.

The positives, never mentioned. Laws prevent discrimination. No laws broken. This is a non-story

Secondly, though cannot prove, Quayle "probably" had an agent working on his behalf in managing the rental.

thirdly, again cannot prove, Don't think Quayle would of stopped the rental to an unmarried couple, its petty.

The point is, the anchor went out of his way to put even a more negative tone into an already negative story. They could have gone neutral, just stating the fact in a one liner, or gone positive by saying despite his convictions he rented to an unmarried couple. Can you see the difference?

The other consideration, and not using this as an attack, but maybe you are tone deaf... Possibility?

I would like to hear your opinion on a story like this.

n2ize

11-03-2007, 01:56 PM

From a conservative standpoint I say the media is so far to the ultra extreme left that I start hearing the Song of the Volga Boatmen everytime I look at a newspaper or hear Rush Limbaugh. That's right, I consider all of em, NPR, PBS, Fox, Rush , Billo to be part of an extreme left wing commie conspiracy. It starts with education. Once you teach readin, ritin and rithmetic to kids who are not part of extremely rich families you have indoctrinated them into liberal Stalinism. Why do you thinjk the commies educated their kids ? So they could read commie propaganda. Tiume we put a stop to all this educashun over here and just teach basic hawse sense.

K3XR

11-05-2007, 12:12 PM

Moveon.org and the New York Times.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=23226 (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=23226)

K3XR

11-06-2007, 12:14 PM

Did they forget to mention.....

http://newsbusters.org/node/16903/print

K3XR

11-06-2007, 10:39 PM

Diane, your LIB is showing.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16916/print

w7lpn

11-06-2007, 11:57 PM

Prepare for the truth, I repeat- They are all liars & big money has an arm up their butts using them for hand puppets. Are all of you really naive enough to believe anything they say? It's a purposeful distraction to keep our eyes off what both sides are really doing. It's no longer the virtues of either party which gets them elected. It's how well & how long they can get us to believe whatever lie will get them higher on some poll. I don't like Hillary, but she ducks & dodges specific questions better than any politition I've ever seen. If specific answers might make you lose votes, then be vague & non-specific until it's too late to hold you accountable, or just change your mind & act like you never said that. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

K3XR

11-08-2007, 10:01 PM

NYT, all the news that's fit to bury on page A19.

http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/08/militant-group-gets-routed-from-baghdad-nyt-buries-the-news-on-page-19/?print=1)

K3XR

11-08-2007, 11:46 PM

Good news about bad newspapers.

http://newsbusters.org/node/16987/print

N3ATS

11-08-2007, 11:53 PM

All you have to do is figure out who owns a majority of the mass media. Once that is accomplished look no further than the political and religious persuasions of said owners. Then you can figure out which way they lean and why.

K3XR

11-09-2007, 08:20 PM

Willey book to be all over the main stream media......NOT.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17009/print

K3XR

11-12-2007, 06:17 PM

More LIB than the UN, yes sir.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17060/print

K3XR

11-13-2007, 01:24 PM

LIB media at it again.
http://newsbusters.org/node/17076/print

K3XR

11-14-2007, 01:18 PM

Net nut to Newsweek.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/newsweek-hires-dnc-paid-stooge-kos

K3XR

11-17-2007, 04:28 AM

More of the same.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17198/print

K3XR

11-17-2007, 09:37 PM

This was on your evening news, the day it happened, wasn't it??

http://newsbusters.org/node/17218/print

K3XR

11-18-2007, 02:53 PM

Banned in Boston.

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2007....ge.html (http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2007/11/boston-paper-refuses-to-cover-cambridge.html)

K3XR

11-19-2007, 12:28 PM

LAT and ZED LIBS, both have a problem with the facts.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17245/print

K3XR

11-20-2007, 03:05 PM

Today in the "so-called" LIB media.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17276/print
http://newsbusters.org/node/17274/print

n2ize

11-20-2007, 03:53 PM

Future neocon drivel... Anyone to the left of Hitler is a commie.

K3XR

11-22-2007, 12:45 AM

No wonder ZED LIBS have their minds so warped when it comes to the economy.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17324/print

K3XR

11-24-2007, 11:45 AM

No problem Mrs. Bill, we have you covered, the joke that is the Clinton News Network.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17347/print

K3XR

11-26-2007, 07:17 AM

LIB media, the Simpson.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17374/print

K3XR

12-08-2007, 06:35 PM

LIB media, at it again.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17697/print

K3XR

12-09-2007, 06:59 AM

Ok, let's hear the (fill in the blank) tell us the LIB media is a myth.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17702/print

K3XR

12-13-2007, 02:43 PM

The joke that is the LIB media.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12433

K3XR

12-17-2007, 03:20 AM

LIB media myths continued.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17875/print
http://newsbusters.org/node/17874/print

K3XR

12-19-2007, 10:49 PM

The best of the worst.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17952/print

KB9YCO

12-19-2007, 10:51 PM

Wow, a whole page of link bot non-responses. Let me just ruin that for you. 73.

K3XR

12-20-2007, 01:04 PM

The Times slimes.

http://newsbusters.org/node/17962/print

KB9YCO

12-20-2007, 11:49 PM

I AM LINK BOT, YOU WILL OBEY AND READ MY PARTISAN LINKS, THE LIBERAL MEDIA IS A MYTH, MMMKAY...

Myths Debunked: The Liberal Media (http://makethemaccountable.com/myth/LiberalMedia.htm)

The Myth of Liberal Media Bias (http://www.buzzflash.com/perspectives/2002/Media_Bias.html)

The Myth of the Liberal Media: The Propaganda Model of News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYlyb1Bx9Ic)

Bill Press: The myth of the liberal media rides again (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/02/21/column.billpress/)

Price of the 'Liberal Media' Myth (http://www.consortiumnews.com/2002/123102a.html)

A new right wing-funded 'study' employs comically unsound criteria to rate the media. (http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/30949/)

"I admit it -- the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures." William Kristol, as reported by the New Yorker, 5/22/95 (http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/myths.html)

K3XR

12-24-2007, 01:27 PM

Media Matters, like LIB ZED posters, truth is not important.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18032/print

KC4RAN

12-24-2007, 01:37 PM

Here's an easy, if time-consuming, way to determine the political leanings of an organization. It uses the principle that psychologically, a person will tend to use nametags and monikers to describe people they inherently disagree with more than those that they agree with. So the method I've seen used goes like this.

Record every news program on a channel for a week. Discard any that are highly polarized, like the talk shows and any discussions on liberal vs conservative. Look for the 'in general' types of political news, where politician X or politician Y is described doing something.

If the organization applies the 'conservative' moniker more often than they do the 'liberal' one, it's a fair bet that the organization or the writers of the material are left-leaning, and vice-versa. I've seen this method applied before, but I can't find a link to it.

The problem of labeling and monikers is described fairly well here (http://www.mediaresearch.org/books/identifybias.asp#7), but it was the first link I could find with a decent description...

K3XR

12-26-2007, 01:23 PM

LIB media, the gift that keeps on giving.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18058/print

K3XR

12-26-2007, 06:30 PM

Yes, we know.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=24127 (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&id=24127)

KB9YCO

12-26-2007, 07:43 PM

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Dec. 24 2007,08:27)]Media Matters, like LIB ZED posters, truth is not important.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18032/print
That's pretty funny coming from someone whose only responses, if you can call them that, are links from politically biased 'news' sources and opinion articles. I don't necessarily believe everything from Media Matters either, but they aren't nearly as biased as 99 percent of the opinion crap that you post links to and then call them facts. Propaganda works both ways, but in this case there is more than ample proof that the media is not overwhelmingly liberal.

K3XR

12-27-2007, 05:13 AM

Liar, Liar, NYT on fire.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18067/print

NL7W

12-27-2007, 09:43 AM

A New Claim!

A recent Media Research Center study says that as the Troop Surge in Iraq continues to work, the mainstream press coverage gets precipitously smaller. At this rate, ABC, NBC, and CBS should all be off the air by next year! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

References:
http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/2007/fax20071204.asp
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=281746606730135
http://www.mediaresearch.org/press/2007/press20071204.asp

n2ize

12-27-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote[/b] (KB9YCO @ Dec. 26 2007,12:43)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Dec. 24 2007,08:27)]Media Matters, like LIB ZED posters, truth is not important.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18032/print
That's pretty funny coming from someone whose only responses, if you can call them that, are links from politically biased 'news' sources and opinion articles. I don't necessarily believe everything from Media Matters either, but they aren't nearly as biased as 99 percent of the opinion crap that you post links to and then call them facts. Propaganda works both ways, but in this case there is more than ample proof that the media is not overwhelmingly liberal.
I hope you don't expect a response from the "bot" you are addressing.

You might get another link to newsbusters though http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

K3XR

12-27-2007, 02:38 PM

Tell us something we don't already know.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18083/print

KB9YCO

12-27-2007, 06:57 PM

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Dec. 27 2007,05:52)]Quote[/b] (KB9YCO @ Dec. 26 2007,12:43)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Dec. 24 2007,08:27)]Media Matters, like LIB ZED posters, truth is not important.

http://newsbusters.org/node/18032/print
That's pretty funny coming from someone whose only responses, if you can call them that, are links from politically biased 'news' sources and opinion articles. I don't necessarily believe everything from Media Matters either, but they aren't nearly as biased as 99 percent of the opinion crap that you post links to and then call them facts. Propaganda works both ways, but in this case there is more than ample proof that the media is not overwhelmingly liberal.
I hope you don't expect a response from the "bot" you are addressing.

You might get another link to newsbusters though http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Of course not. I am beginning to wonder if the man has anything to say for himself at all. Whatever floats your boat I guess, but it just seems to me that if you were really so politically motivated you might actually have something to say in your own words, what a concept.
I just wanted to point out the obvious hypocrisy since I am always amused by people that claim all this liberal bias (most Democratic politicians ARE NOT LIBERAL) and whine about not having facts, then they direct everything to partisan opinion-based articles which are obviously biased. Don't you have any actual FACTS to back up what you say? Or do you need someone else's opinion to back it up for you? XR is not the only one who does it. I guess maybe many of the posters on this site have a conservative bias (most Republican politicians ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE, just take a look at the current administration, they have not acted very conservatively). Oh well, it's all entertainment to me, some of it just a bit more messed up than others.

W2ILP

12-27-2007, 07:32 PM

The media, like all of the politicians...is neither liberal or conservative in its general policies...BUT...The media must capture an audience and if it is commercial media it must make a profit. Thus it must do whatever pays the best....and it must walk in the gray area between liberal and conservative ideals most of the time. Public non-profit broadcasting can be more liberal than most commercial broadcasters and newspapers...even though it gets big grants from capitalist foundations. That is because Public Broadcasting at least attempts to get support from the public with many small contributions. It is only on PBS that I have heard commentators who strongly supported the impeachment of GWB...which even left wing Democrats have now abandoned.

There is no Liberal media...nor is there a Conservative media...but there are media where we can get the FACTS...and interpret our own liberal or conservative reasoning to many of them.

w2ilp (Impossible Liberal Politics)...I, as a Humanist, recognize that economic systems based on socialism / communism can not work anywhere...but I do believe that capitalism must be limited so that we can prevent only a hand full of people owning the largest share of our nation's wealth. I learned that there is a Mexican citizen who is richer than Bill Gates... in a nation where there are many people living in extreme poverty. He has more power than the president of Mexico. This could happen here. Money makes money and the rich may get richer while the poor get poorer and the middle class shrinks. There must be a limit on extreme wealth so that we all may be capitalists!

NL7W

12-28-2007, 05:56 AM

Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ Dec. 27 2007,11:32)]The media, like all of the politicians...is neither liberal or conservative in its general policies...BUT...The media must capture an audience and if it is commercial media it must make a profit. Thus it must do whatever pays the best....and it must walk in the gray area between liberal and conservative ideals most of the time. Public non-profit broadcasting can be more liberal than most commercial broadcasters and newspapers...even though it gets big grants from capitalist foundations. That is because Public Broadcasting at least attempts to get support from the public with many small contributions. It is only on PBS that I have heard commentators who strongly supported the impeachment of GWB...which even left wing Democrats have now abandoned.

There is no Liberal media...nor is there a Conservative media...but there are media where we can get the FACTS...and interpret our own liberal or conservative reasoning to many of them.

w2ilp (Impossible Liberal Politics)...I, as a Humanist, recognize that economic systems based on socialism / communism can not work anywhere...but I do believe that capitalism must be limited so that we can prevent only a hand full of people owning the largest share of our nation's wealth. I learned that there is a Mexican citizen who is richer than Bill Gates... in a nation where there are many people living in extreme poverty. He has more power than the president of Mexico. This could happen here. Money makes money and the rich may get richer while the poor get poorer and the middle class shrinks. There must be a limit on extreme wealth so that we all may be capitalists!
What a load of crapola! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif