PDA

View Full Version : Where have you heard this before?


k4kyv
08-30-2007, 05:50 AM
One may well pause these days to observe the rapid growth of amateur radio. About 600,000 amateurs in the U.S. these days. Mr. Sumner in QST tells us this is cool stuff, but we don't agree. We have been on the air enough lately--on nine different bands--to know that good operators are counted in the dozens and the lids in the hundreds, at any moment.

This means that we are increasingly becoming a group of novices, still "wet behind the ears." Being an old-timer, and having an honest concern for the future, we are somewhat apprehensive of this condition. Not that we don't like newcomers--for we started in this game twenty-five years ago--but we don't like to have good standards of conduct forgotten, as they certainly are today.

Of course--as anybody can observe--it is advantageous to the paid officers of the League to have as many amateurs as the game will hold. For, the more amateurs, the more QST subscriptions, the more Handbooks sold, and the more money for high salaries. It's a good racket, financially. Our commercial "friends" like it, too, for they will find it that much easier to prove that we aren't doing anything worthwhile, when they get ready to take over our frequency bands.

There are two ways to stop this unwanted increase in "lids"--get the A.R.R.L. to cut out the profit motive, and get the F.C.C. to administer a different kind of examination to amateurs: an examination that would test ability, and not memory.


Now where do you suppose I found this commentary? In CQ Magazine? In a posting on QRZ.com or e-Ham? Scroll down the page to see.

*





*






*






*





*



You will note that I made a few editorial changes in the text. Here is the original, highlighting the words in the text that I changed:


"One may well pause these days to observe the rapid growth of amateur radio. About 33,000 amateurs in the U.S. these days. Mr. Budlong in QST tells us this is swell stuff, but we don't agree. We have been on the air enough lately--on three different bands--to know that good operators are counted in the dozens and the lids in the hundreds, at any moment.

This means that we are increasingly becoming a group of novices, still "wet behind the ears." Being an old-timer, and having an honest concern for the future, we are somewhat apprehensive of this condition. Not that we don't like youngsters--for we started in this game at the age of 11--but we don't like to have good standards of conduct forgotten, as they certainly are today.

Of course--as anybody can observe--it is advantageous to the paid officers of the League to have as many amateurs as the game will hold. For, the more amateurs, the more QST subscriptions, the more Handbooks sold, and the more money for high salaries. It's a good racket, financially. Our commercial "friends" like it, too, for they will find it that much easier to prove that we aren't doing anything worthwhile, when they get ready to take over our frequency bands.

There are two ways to stop this unwanted increase in "lids"--get the A.R.R.L. to cut out the profit motive, and get the F.R.C. to administer a different kind of examination to amateurs: an examination that would test ability, and not memory."

*F.R.C = Federal Radio Commission, the predecessor to the FCC.

As you can see, I changed a total of seven words or phrases to update the text to make it appear contemporary.

The original appeared in R-9 magazine, March, 1933 (page 6).

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

wv6z
08-30-2007, 06:01 AM
Very interesting read, funny how the old saying is true, “The more things change, the more they remain the same…..” http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

wd0ct
08-30-2007, 07:00 AM
Thanks! I've been saying this for years but most still believe everything is still going to he%%.

Ten or fifteen years from now the guys licensed for ten or fifteen years will saying "these noobs are ruining ham radio".

KE5FRF
08-30-2007, 12:19 PM
He kept referring to "WE" ...How many people did it take to write this? Was he representing his club? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

W4HAY
08-30-2007, 12:49 PM
...and back in the 50s we newbies got rocks thrown at us because we had all those new-fangled kits and cheap ARC-5s and didn't have to build stuff from scratch!

Funny thing -- we never could find an ARC-5 receiver that would stand up to a well-built 'ginny!

KI4ODO
08-30-2007, 01:02 PM
Quote[/b] (W4HAY @ Aug. 30 2007,05:49)]...and back in the 50s we newbies got rocks thrown at us because we had all those new-fangled kits and cheap ARC-5s and didn't have to build stuff from scratch!

Funny thing -- we never could find an ARC-5 receiver that would stand up to a well-built 'ginny!
What in God's name is a "Ginny"?

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif I'm Kidding,,,, please don't blast me for that http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

VO1GXG
08-30-2007, 01:21 PM
2007 - 1933 = 74

Anyone licensed in the last 74 years is a "Lid" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

kl7aj
08-30-2007, 02:55 PM
Quote[/b] (VO1GXG @ Aug. 30 2007,06:21)]2007 - 1933 = 74

Anyone licensed in the last 74 years is a "Lid" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I know three non-lids, then. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

KB3LIX
08-30-2007, 03:12 PM
W O O F

KA4DPO
08-30-2007, 03:36 PM
Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Aug. 30 2007,00:50)]There are two ways to stop this unwanted increase in "lids"--get the A.R.R.L. to cut out the profit motive, and get the F.R.C. to administer a different kind of examination to amateurs: an examination that would test ability, and not memory."

*F.R.C = Federal Radio Commission, the predecessor to the FCC.

As you can see, I changed a total of seven words or phrases to update the text to make it appear contemporary.

The original appeared in R-9 magazine, March, 1933 (page 6).
Well as you probably know The FCC was created under the U.S. Communications Act of 1934 about one year after that article was written.

The FCC did, in fact change the Amateur radio testing structure in 1935 and made it more difficult from a technical perspective and also increased the morse requirement which remained the same for 60 years. #

The FRC was started in 1927 to supplant the commerce departments role in regulating radio. #The FRC was was a terribly lame duck organization especially when it came to amateur radio (that's why it only lasted for 7 years) and so the authors statements are probably true more than you know.

More telling is the fact that since that article was written there has not been such a feeling by so many amateurs until just recently with changes in the testing and licensing structure. #

So before you try to weave this story out of context be sure to review the facts first. #At least in the case of the OT who wrote it the newly formed FCC came to the rescue. #Who's gonna save us now?

AA0CX
08-30-2007, 03:42 PM
Everything goes to hell [apparently] from one generation to the next: 40 years ago, my mom said "what's your generation coming to?" Well, 40 years later, I've got a teenager: I wonder the same thing.

Now, I know what my mom meant when she said "you know, when you grow up, I hope you have a son just like you." http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

WB2WIK
08-30-2007, 03:42 PM
Here's one guy who would agree ham radio has already gone to the dogs:

http://www.qrz.com/detail/W0OF

K7JEM
08-30-2007, 03:43 PM
These tales of woe have always been around, has nothing to do with FRC or FCC, the licensing or the tests.

It has to do with human behavior, nothing more.

"People" are like that, and always have been. Hams are a subset of "people", so they have the same ideas.

These same opinions were widely held in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and today. There has never been a time in HR that these thoughts were not held by a certain small percentage of hams.

Obviously, today is no different. And anytime any change is made, these thoughts are expressed again.

Joe

N2RJ
08-30-2007, 03:54 PM
Backs up what we've been saying all along - ham radio never needed "saving" and the numbers are just fine...

08-30-2007, 03:55 PM
Gee has anyone been listen to 80 meters? I have herd the most offensive talk on there, it sounds worse then 11 meter. All these Hams have been around along time too? Seems to me that there is not just trouble with the new Hams. It seems like there is alot of talk about newbies?. My 2 cents.

Jerry
K6GLG

WB2WIK
08-30-2007, 04:01 PM
Quote[/b] (K6GLG @ Aug. 30 2007,08:55)]Gee has anyone been listen to 80 meters? I have herd the most offensive talk on there, it sounds worse then 11 meter. All these Hams have been around along time too? Seems to me that there is not just trouble with the new Hams. It seems like there is alot of talk about newbies?. My 2 cents.

Jerry
K6GLG
I never hear that on 80 meters (CW band) but I've heard a lot of offensive stuff on 75 meters (phone band). http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

One reason I rarely operate 75 meters.

80m CW is fine, and people are gentlemen just like the other bands.

W4HAY
08-31-2007, 12:28 PM
Quote[/b] (KI4ODO @ Aug. 30 2007,13:02)]Quote[/b] (W4HAY @ Aug. 30 2007,05:49)]...and back in the 50s we newbies got rocks thrown at us because we had all those new-fangled kits and cheap ARC-5s and didn't have to build stuff from scratch!

Funny thing -- we never could find an ARC-5 receiver that would stand up to a well-built 'ginny!
What in God's name is a "Ginny"? #

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif # I'm Kidding,,,, please don't blast me for that #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Come to think of it, there's probably quite a few that haven't heard the term!
'ginny (or 'genny) = regenerative receiver

I still have my first one, recently referbished, and occasionally put it on the air with my 2A5 rock-crusher.

rock crusher = crystal-controlled transmitter, esp. one with high grid current that tended to shatter crystals!

Grand-daddy of all rock-crushers (http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~glowbugs/813osc.htm)

KB3NDN
08-31-2007, 12:39 PM
that was a very good post.

ai4ep
08-31-2007, 02:20 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ( attempt at humor )

A dogs life aint all that bad

they eat / sleep, bark , and could chase rabbits or deer all day if they wanted to.

The tough ones think they have to BITE some one or some thing , act grouchy, etc. I think they may have a headache making them grouchy and they dont know how to tell us that they DO have a headache and do not feel good.

Has any one ever noticed how a dog ACTS after he has bit a human ? Almost apologetic, like he is saying " Wow, did I just DO THAT ? Naw, man, I didnt do that " !!

Plus it may hurt the dogs mouth to bite something thick and hard, like a human arm / leg, and they dont want to go through the pain and personal agony of that again real soon.

Dogs have feelings too.

Cats are above all that " biting " idea, they just do other things ( like run away ).

Like, how many cats do you see on a persons front porch meowing away that you have just drove up and are a stranger to the house ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ...claws out, striking towards you in a defensive way ?

cats do not do that...at least not the cats I have seen.

( finished with attempt at humor ) ---about time EP !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

W0BKR
08-31-2007, 03:37 PM
Just listen on 20 meters or 75 one might come to that conclusion.

Arrf.