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W0BKR
08-27-2007, 12:58 PM
Ever wonder why, when tuning around on say 20 meters, you come across a group of ops cussing, jamming, etc. each other? And, you see the same individuals week after week, doing it over and over. Take for example the goings on, on 14.275.
Here is what I cannot figure out.
A potential operator, takes the time to study (at least when I was licensed) a license study guide, learning the material, the rules, regulations, etc. Studies with buddies, the code, practicing, etc., and then goes down and takes the examination.
After passing say the General class requirements, takes hard earned money, buys a decent radio, antenna, coax, amplifier (over time of course). Spends time digging a hole in the yard, pouring concrete, erecting a tower, spending yet more money and after all that, spends his time on one frequency (more or less), heckling another individual, week after week after week.
What is the point of going thru all that work, money, time, investment, etc., to spend it on this type of behavior on the air?
I don't get it.
Makes you wonder.
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Quote[/b] (W0BKR @ Aug. 27 2007,07:58)]Ever wonder why, when tuning around on say 20 meters, you come across a group of ops cussing, jamming, etc. each other? And, you see the same individuals week after week, doing it over and over. Take for example the goings on, on 14.275.
Here is what I cannot figure out.
A potential operator, takes the time to study (at least when I was licensed) a license study guide, learning the material, the rules, regulations, etc. Studies with buddies, the code, practicing, etc., and then goes down and takes the examination.
After passing say the General class requirements, takes hard earned money, buys a decent radio, antenna, coax, amplifier (over time of course). Spends time digging a hole in the yard, pouring concrete, erecting a tower, spending yet more money and after all that, spends his time on one frequency (more or less), heckling another individual, week after week after week.
What is the point of going thru all that work, money, time, investment, etc., to spend it on this type of behavior on the air?
I don't get it.
Makes you wonder.
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The lids all gather on 14.275 because there they find a group of other like-minded losers ! "Birds of a feather" and all that! They would feel out of place in a group of technically inclined individuals working one of the advanced digital modes, for instance, or in the Cw portion of the band having a QSO at 30 wpm with another A1 operator !
Just my take on it! 73, Jim ( I won't be looking for you on 14.275 ! )
....and they drag it all on QRZ.COM. Listen to the calls involved and check some of the posts here.
kc2orw
08-27-2007, 01:56 PM
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Charlie Young, AG4YO -- Excuse me but I think your argument is very hypocritical (http://i17.tinypic.com/4kf8h7m.jpg). You recently posted a thread arguing that people who have been banned from QRZ should be able to come here and defend themselves. You ignored the fact that the majority of the banned people are banned precisely because they abused their privileges here.
Charlie, you seem to spend much of your time on QRZ bashing and baiting folks who never studied Morse Code, as if that has anything to do with radio skills, and the rest of your time here seems to be spent bashing digital ops, the ARRL, and posting childish cartoons. How does that benefit amateur radio Charlie?
To refresh your apparently short memory, here's your thesis, arguing that banned hams should be allowed to post here:
Quote[/b] ]Charlie wrote: My personal feeling is that unless QRZ allows the subject of these posts to argue back, then these should be considered improper topics. Fair is fair.
Also, Charlie, it looks like you've already forgotten what Terry the moderator said before he locked your thread arguing that infamous banned hams should be allowed to post here...
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I don't mention this to embarass you Charlie, but when you advocate their ability to post here, you can hardly then turn around and complain about these same people. IMO, any credibility you may have had here in the past is fast diminishing or already gone Charlie. Think about it.
ab8ma
08-27-2007, 03:05 PM
Where is Mike95874 when we really need him? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I hear he's posting on 27.275 aka citizens banned.
Brian,
My point was simple. In light of what Terry said, if you're going to listen on the air and then comment here, do your homework and associate the calls on the air with the opinions here. And as I said in the other thread, you want a fight that I don't care to give you because to do so would intimate that I support your friend in Canada, which I do not. In fact your last post is an example to others of what will happen to them if they dare to voice an opinion, even a neutral one. Which is why I started the other thread to begin with...
Just be aware that one may agree that a problem exists without agreeing on the solution you have chosen to remedy it. And there is no ill will intended in that statement.
Quote[/b] ]Charlie AG4YO to Calvin, on QRZ.com 25 Jun ‘07: "Another thinly veiled whack Karol Madera post…. You need to hang out with better people."
Quote[/b] ]Charlie AG4YO in “FCC Doing Good Enforcing Rules?” on QRZ.com 18 Jun ‘07: "At Dayton for the (at least) third year in a row, FCC Amateur Enforcement guru Riley Hollingsworth asked Amateurs to chill. #Don't take things so seriously. #His vow going into office was that he'd clean up the bands. So how do YOU think he is doing? I believe he had no idea what bureaucratic quagmire he was getting himself into with the FCC. #I have felt more increasingly that he needs a legal time out."
Quote[/b] ]Charlie AG4YO on QRZ.com 22 Aug ’07 (just before lock down): "Gee Brian, I am asking a simple question and it's seems you're trying to pick a fight I'm really not interested in having. #I believe I worded my original post politely not to take sides. #You obviously have a dog in this hunt I don't have."
Give me a break Charlie, all of your quotes above occupy a place of honor on VE7KFM's web page. "No dog in the hunt" my @... Charlie!
Now, let me remind you what the FCC has done on 14.275 alone:
Quote[/b] ]WA9KJI -- Lost his license this month.
KC0UWS -- In jail with FCC help.
WA1BHV -- Warned license revocation proceedings are the next step.
VE7KFM -- Two formal complaints lodged by RAC with input by FCC.
K1MAN -- $21,000 Forfeiture Order pending collection in civil court.
N9OGL -- Check upcoming enforcement logs.
W4JYZ -- Warned.
N9VTB -- Cautioned.
K5BLB -- Warned.
The rest of the nuts on 14.275 are anonymous jammers and bootleggers from at least two countries. It takes a while to track folks who don't use callsigns, but it can be done. We have one guy handling all the complaints for 700,000 licensees and Charlie's giving him crap for not finding 50 anonymous jammers. At the same time, Charlie advocates that criminals ought to be able to post here to "defend themselves." Please, if that's your solution, keep it to yourself Charlie. Your lame attempt at explaining yourself only reveals how weak your arguments really are -- and have been. Go bash some more no-coders and post some silly cartoons Charlie.
kb1ohk
08-27-2007, 03:49 PM
Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Aug. 27 2007,06:53)]#Listen to the calls involved and check some of the posts here.
The op's giving their calls are not the ones who are jamming. It's the bozo's who don't id that are playing music, tuning up, making animal noises, etc, causing the problems.
You are pointing the finger at the wrong people. The op's who id are just trying to follow the rules.
ai4ep
08-27-2007, 03:55 PM
...but look at the call signs of the individuals that are too dumb to follow the simple FCC rules. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Yeah, you're right EP, let's take Charlie's advice, and, hey, why not give 'em their own board, so they can bash the FCC and defame the good ops to their heart's content!! Duh, if slander's ok on the air, then libel's even better here on QRZ! Somebody get on the phone and invite those boys to get in here and participate. Just what we need. NOT.
To answer the original question:
Some of these induhviduals are off their meds. Some should have been put on them in the first place.
Some have a burr of some sort up where the, ah, sun don't shine, and this is the only outlet that they think is available to them.
Some are the same sort of people who drove past the lines of people queued and waiting to buy the latest Harry Potter book, or to get into a hit movie with a twist ending, etc., and take personal joy into spoiling everyone else's enjoyment by revealing the endng. (Why? See the first paragrapha above)
Some crave attention, any attention, even if it's bad. They need to take James Earl Jones' suggestion from Field of Dreams, regarding the need to be seeing a slew of psychologists.
And remember: These poor slobs are nothing new. They've existed for years and years, and unfortunately, new ones always seem to show up to take the place of the old ones.
Document their antics. Report to the FCC or equivalent local authority. And then... Turn the dial and ignore them.
ai4ep
08-27-2007, 04:14 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif Them folks crave attention, even NEGATIVE attention is better than no attention at all. They want YOU to pay attention to THEM.
simple and to the point. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Quote[/b] ]W3WN: "Some of these individuals are off their meds."
Yes, and don't forget that drug and alcohol addiction could be a factor too. Anyone who would defend these fools or argue to give them a forum needs to seriously consider a check-up him or herself.
Quote[/b] ]AI4EP: "Them folks crave attention, even NEGATIVE attention is better than no attention at all. #They want YOU to pay attention to THEM."
Correct. In fact, two of the idiots on 14275 (one of them in Canada) actually called my colleagues at my office (Stockbridge Consulting) where I owned and managed a private practice and consulting sub-specialty for 12 years before I retired, because they thought my address listed in the Medical Arts building was some kind of "mail drop". Duh. My colleague's understood what was happening immediately and they gave the morons the customary brush-off, but talk about DUMB!
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Quote[/b] ]...let's take Charlie's advice, and, hey, why not give 'em their own board, so they can bash the FCC and defame the good ops to their heart's content!!
Actually my advice was to give neither side a "board". My suggestion was that if this argument is to be presented on QRZ.COM we should hear both sides or no side. The moderators disagree. So be it. Given that, I believe those that read these pages should be aware of who has a dog in this hunt or not and how that effects what is posted here.
If you somehow think this equates to support of your friend in Canada, then you're sadly mistaken.
Wow, try listening to 80 meters lately? Talk about Jamming & Foul talk good thing it starts real late in the evening. I can not believe what I hear?
73's
Jerry
K6GLG
Charlie I know what you wrote, and so does everyone else, because it's still in the locked thread, which you started. This is a direct quote Charlie: "My personal feeling is that unless QRZ allows the subjects of these posts to argue back, then these posts should be considered improper topics."
In other words, no matter how you try to WEASEL out of what you wrote Charlie, you were an advocate for LETTING BANNED AMATEURS ARGUE THEIR POSITIONS ON QRZ. It's obvious, it's in black and white, and it's written in English. Having said that, don't mistake my advice to you. I don't really believe that anyone cares about your opinion one way or the other Charlie. Simply consider this: When someone who wishes Americans roadside bombs gives you a place of honor among his other assorted demented ramblings, it's probably time to re-consider your position.
NA4BH
08-27-2007, 05:37 PM
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Quote[/b] ]...no matter how you try to WEASEL out of what you wrote Charlie, you were an advocate for LETTING BANNED AMATEURS ARGUE THEIR POSITIONS ON QRZ.ROFL!!! Nice try. Here's the whole quote in context...Quote[/b] ]This is not about agreeing or disagreeing with Mandera or Baxter, it's about the dragging this "on the air" disaster onto QRZ.COM. My personal feeling is that unless QRZ allows the subject of these posts to argue back, then these should be considered improper topics. Fair is fair. As I have politely reminded you, the issue is dragging "on the air" arguments on QRZ.COM. My opinion on this thread (given Terry's ruling) adds that people should know the players if they're going to read this. It should give them an idea of what motivates the discussion.
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I am not THAT cute! LOLOL!
I didn't include the entire paragraph because it's not relevant Charlie. The ENTIRE point here is not some semantic YO YO, but rather that YOU argued to allow banned posters access to these threads in order to defend their positions.
Charlie, you are reminded:
1. The hams in question were banned (for the most part) in the first place because they broke the rules here. Again, to be precise, you argued they should be allowed back to participate. Brilliant.
2. Terry, the moderator reminded us that discussion of the hams in question is fair game, then he locked the thread, and in a similar thread WS2L reminded us that if we don't like the topic, we shouldn't click on the thread. I told you that MONTHS ago Charlie, but you chose to ignore it.
3. Someone else reminded you that QRZ is a HAM RADIO discussion board, so OF COURSE, what goes on in ham radio should be discussed here. Would you rather we discussed Tennis?
4. Don't answer that, I don't care what you'd rather discuss. Please see the illustration above. Your denials don't hold water Charlie and you're only making yourself look silly by attempting to obfuscate the point.
N8GAV
08-27-2007, 05:58 PM
Where 's ToeJoe?Is he back? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Now all kidding aside what I wonder is every time for the past 2 weeks when some troll starts a post about 275 and some of us stand up to some of them we are told we are stiring the pot. Yesterday before one thred was locked, I asked that person to "DROP IT LIKE A BAD HABBIT" ITS GETTING OLD.BORRRRRING.Did they,he== NO!!!! The fool started two more. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
You are heavily invested in this feud with your sadly misguided Canadian pal. I don't believe the feud belongs on QRZ.COM, but given the decision of Terry, I hope other readers see what a quagmire this kind of thing is and know the players when reading these posts. I wish you well and that you're rewarded with whatever you hope to get out of it. I just hope it is something constructive for us all.
NA4BH
08-27-2007, 06:17 PM
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Thank you I appreciate that Charlie, and I hope you'll consider my advice to stop belittling newcomers, digital ops, and those with no code experience. Picking on others even in jest is no way to build cameraderie in the service. Likewise, sabotaging other people's interests and discussions is no way to make friends, here, or on the air.
73
kc7gnm
08-27-2007, 06:28 PM
Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Aug. 27 2007,14:14)]You are heavily invested in this feud with your sadly misguided Canadian pal. #I don't believe the feud belongs on QRZ.COM, but given the decision of Terry, I hope other readers see what a quagmire this kind of thing is and know the players when reading these posts. I wish you well and that you're rewarded with whatever you hope to get out of it. #I just hope it is something constructive for us all.
Reading through this thread makes me agree with you Charlie. I don't think K3VR understands what you are trying to say. What you are saying is that if we don't allow both sides to discuss the issue then it doesn't seem fair to let the topic go. All you get is a one sided conversation and that doesn't help much at all.
I understood that perfectly. The Moderator's view is, the "other half" of the conversation was banned for a reason. That's another valid point for not letting them back. Letting them advertise their wacky views is like letting convicts have a TV show about why they should be allowed to commit crimes.
Edit: And tonight on Night Line, we have recently convicted al Qaeda operatives, fresh out of prison to explain how and when the US should be attacked with a variety of improvised weaponry. After all, "fair is fair."
NA4BH
08-27-2007, 06:51 PM
Quote[/b] (kc7gnm @ Aug. 27 2007,11:28)]Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Aug. 27 2007,14:14)]You are heavily invested in this feud with your sadly misguided Canadian pal. #I don't believe the feud belongs on QRZ.COM, but given the decision of Terry, I hope other readers see what a quagmire this kind of thing is and know the players when reading these posts. I wish you well and that you're rewarded with whatever you hope to get out of it. #I just hope it is something constructive for us all.
Reading through this thread makes me agree with you Charlie. #I don't think K3VR understands what you are trying to say. #What you are saying is that if we don't allow both sides to discuss the issue then it doesn't seem fair to let the topic go. #All you get is a one sided conversation and that doesn't help much at all.
And yet, there is always some one that climbs out from under a rock to argue their point.
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w3dub
08-27-2007, 07:07 PM
"No, no really I'm not part of the problem!!"
Charlie, don't you get that impression from some of these folks? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Hi Ed!
We were wondering where you went! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Junior, why don't you crawl back down to the cellar and write another email to your Unkle Karol?
NA4BH
08-27-2007, 07:08 PM
I rest my case, Your Honor..............
Quote[/b] (K3VR @ Aug. 27 2007,11:19)]Thank you I appreciate that Charlie, and I hope you'll consider my advice to stop belittling newcomers, digital ops, and those with no code experience. Picking on others even in jest is no way to build cameraderie in the service. Likewise, sabotaging other people's interests and discussions is no way to make friends, here, or on the air.
73
Thanks for the suggestion. I assume if I do what you ask here I'll not see you post to any more threads concerning your friend? ROFL!
w3dub
08-27-2007, 07:16 PM
Wow the responses were just about as predictable as they come... passing over those.
Charlie, if that ever happens, I think hell would have frozen over!
kb1ohk
08-27-2007, 07:17 PM
Quote[/b] (K3VR @ Aug. 27 2007,12:08)]Junior, why don't you crawl back down to the cellar and write another email to your Unkle Karol?
I heard Karol reading email last night he refered to the writer as Ed from Pa. I wonder who that could be?
Shall we take turns guessing?
I think this Ed sleeps to close to the furnace.
I wouldn't be on it. N9PH has been posting every day about your friend (he likes you Charlie, not me) and some anonymous coward on another board posted about him the other day... and I'm sure more puppets will emerge over time... so until the fruitcake is off the air, or in jail, he'll probably be a topic of discussion. I've suggested they nuke all threads about him since he gets off on reading them on the air. One thing you have my word on though Charlie, I won't start any new threads about him, but I reserve the right to reply if I see inaccurate information being distributed by the usual suspects.
w3dub
08-27-2007, 07:21 PM
LMAO.
Funny I haven't even done anything amateur radio related or talked to any hams in well over several weeks. In fact, this is the first time I've been on QRZ for more than a minute in awhile. Sorry, I have a life outside of my radio, some people unfortunately here do not.
Nice try.
W2BBQ
08-27-2007, 07:49 PM
I think it's also CB Syndrome. Many an excellent ham came to ham radio via CB. I personally know dozens of them. CB was HUGE in the mid-late 1970's and this attracted many great ops into discovering the thrill and use of radio communications.
Then there were your trailer park trash nimwit heckraisers that also inhabited CB. Some of those went on to become hams as well to git to use them big radios and legal linyars.
You can take some CB'ers away from CB but you can't take the CB out of all ex-CB'ers.
And shame on Riley and Co. for doing next to nothing about all of the illegal operating.
I started an Official Thread (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=7;t=166532) to save you all the trouble. Now there can be no confusion as to the real subject at hand. Good luck!
ai4ep
08-27-2007, 08:11 PM
...if Charlie could only spell their callsigns correctly.... !!!
What was it k0cmh said about Charlie's last attempt at this topic? Oh, that's right...
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WA7KKP
08-27-2007, 09:34 PM
I think it was Albert Einstein who once said:
There is no limit to infinity, or a man's stupidity.
Gary WA7KKP
N1XHF
08-27-2007, 09:37 PM
Charlie Chicken bander where are you?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Save us from this madness!!!!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
W4INF
08-27-2007, 10:46 PM
I tend to QSY past the junk and make sure I maintain my own operations, in accordance with what is right and proper. Works pretty good I tell ya!
ai4ep
08-27-2007, 11:53 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif "right & proper " ?? !! ??
What on earth does THAT mean ? :0
kd5kfl
08-28-2007, 01:38 AM
I'm sitting in my favorite restaurant. Mexican food New Mexican style, free internet access, charming waitresses and a retarded kid shouting so loud I can hear him with earmuffs over earplugs. Local kid, frequent flyer in here. No regulation on the volume. Parents sitting right next to him. My beef is with the kids handlers, not the kid.
4 university students walking out as I type. Couldn't have a study session with the kid jabbering away. Organic chemistry incompatible with congenital damage.
Locals encouraging the kid to jabber. "Go Warriors" ( high school teams ), "Hi Grandma", "Hi Grandpa", over and over and over and over and over....Laughing and clapping their hands with every mindless monotonous shouted repetition.
I'm going home now. Work out on the speed bag and the heavy bag. Think nice thoughts about the faces of the people goading the out of control kid on the Everlast.
I don't know if life imitates art, but sometimes life imitates QRZ.
kf6rdn
08-28-2007, 02:20 AM
Quote[/b] ]
W4JYZ -- Warned.
N9VTB -- Cautioned.
K5BLB -- Warned.
What the heck is the difference?
"I'm warning you! errr, no wait.. I'm CAUTIONING you!"
A warning is a formal letter in the discipline process. A warning can lead to a notice of apparent liability for forfeiture -- see K1MAN's $21,000 fine for reference. It started with an inquiry letter, then a warning notice, then a Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture, then a notice of Forfeiture. If you don't pay a Forfeiture, the US Attorney will sue you to collect it in Federal District Court. A caution is a less serious notice, usually given in reply to a response from a letter of inquiry. If you continue to do what you were cautioned about, you may get a warning, NAL, etc.
VE7DCW
08-28-2007, 06:17 AM
The fun is going to see if Baxter will pay his $21,000 fine with the genuine AARA credit card http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif it's good for deep discounts at any FCC office http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
73
W0BKR
08-28-2007, 11:20 AM
Quote[/b] (K6GLG @ Aug. 27 2007,09:56)]Wow, try listening to 80 meters lately? Talk about Jamming & Foul talk good thing it starts real late in the evening. I can not believe what I hear?
73's
Jerry
K6GLG
Unfortunately, parts of 75 Meters are just like some segments on 20 meters. Again, I don't understand individuals like these, but I don't pretend to be a physchologist either. I suspect they would have a field day listening to these folks.
I just spin the dial.
Doesn't seem like the Feds are too eager to do anything either as this has been going on from what I have read, for years.
ai4ep
08-28-2007, 02:48 PM
You have GOT to be kidding --- the FCC actually getting a hurry to DO something ?? !! ??
They're working on it, but the fruitcake in Canada is not in FCC jurisdiction and anonymous jammers are often 'hit and run' violators and tough to track -- assuming the FCC even cares about tracking the folks jamming the Canadian.
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VE7DCW
08-29-2007, 04:48 AM
Here in Canada we keep hoping that Industry Canada would have the courage of dealing with the violations of the Radiocommunications Act regulations by VE7KFM.But,it seems our esteemed regulatory officialdom has'nt been the same since the government watered down the once feared "Department of Communications". http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif Had we been in the 1970's Karol would've been lucky to still have had his equipment a week after starting this nonsense.Having seen them in action they were the envy of today.We can still hope that "IC" will get it right http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
73
KI4NGN
08-29-2007, 10:52 AM
K3VR - I think you are missing the point. I often disagree with Charlie posts and discussion style, but his argument is not supporting those who are banned, but one of if you're not going to allow one side to post then you shouldn't allow the other side to post. That's not supporting either side, but suggesting a generic neutral policy. I think that's pretty clear and you're letting something get in your way of seeing that.
It's kind of like that whole free speech thing.....you can't have free speech if you're only going allow speech that you agree with. The price paid is that you have to allow speech that may make your blood boil. That is not supporting what is said, or by who, but the right of anyone to say it.
Mike
Edit: Before you remind me that this is a private site, subject to the rules, policies, and whims of the owners, I already know and accept this. This does not invalidate Charlie's opinion nor his right to express it.
Topic: Ever Wonder??, What makes individuals do this stuff?
Anal attitude caused by generations of in-breeding!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Threads come and go but the stench of this board lingers.
Toejoe
NA4BH
08-31-2007, 04:08 AM
Probably like the bolts on a 737-800.
Quote[/b] (n9ph @ Aug. 31 2007,04:11)]Threads come and go but the stench of this board lingers.
Toejoe
True Joe... So True ....
Gordy
Quote[/b] (VE7DCW @ Aug. 29 2007,01:48)]Here in Canada we keep hoping that Industry Canada would have the courage of dealing with the violations of the Radiocommunications Act regulations by VE7KFM.But,it seems our esteemed regulatory officialdom has'nt been the same since the government watered down the once feared "Department of Communications". http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif #Had we been in the 1970's Karol would've been lucky to still have had his equipment a week after starting this nonsense.Having seen them in action they were the envy of today.We can still hope that "IC" will get it right #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
73
I can still remember seeing pictures of piles of confenscated ham radio equipment, probably worth thousands of dollars even back in those days, waiting to be mashed with sledgehammers.
Those were the days in which the FCC had some teeth, and wasn't afraid to use them . I really wonder what has become of that old concept ?
Now, MAN laughs in the face of the feds, and continues "doing his thing" and the government seems to be powerless to do anything about it. What is it going to do, send him another letter asking why he hasn't paid up, yet ?
Seems to me that the agents should show up on his doorstep some midnight, and confenscate all that stuff. If he goes out and gets more, and gets back on the air again, it would be time for another midnight visit! You would think that he and any "wannabees" would eventually get the message ! But a string of scolding letters does NOT accomplish anything!
JMHO 73, Jim
ai4ep
08-31-2007, 09:54 PM
3y --- like the old saying that --
actions are louder than words.
simple and to the point.
AI4EP (Robert) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
DCW,
If you have never heard KFM on the air (which is what you told me earlier), how is it you think he's a problem?
Are you basing your opinion are web pages? If so, how do you feel about the American amateurs that have their share of sound clips on the web?
And some of them are posting to these threads.
Toejoe
VE7DCW
09-01-2007, 01:48 AM
Sorry to disappoint you Joe but I have heard the local signal of VE7KFM not more than 4 kilometres from his location while using a mobile rig while visiting my old town of Victoria.So i base what i say on his signal quality and his conduct while he was transmitting that signal http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif I'm out of ground wave coverage of the signal and obviously too close for skywave signal at a distance of 140 kilometres.A Karol free zone http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif and if people have gone to all the trouble of making audio recordings available on the web,it says something.They're probably saying we have a problem here's the evidence
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ai4ep
09-01-2007, 08:31 PM
I actually sspent a good 10 minutes of my life listening to this junk this morning.....came her and started a thread about it ( now deleted by the powers that run this fine place ).
I go back this afternoon and some yahoo is asking for a " radio check " about 3 pm central time ( no I do not answer )....I guess band conditions have changed and us lucky folks in Alabama do not get to listen to his words of wisdom.
Maybe GOD is having mercy on my receiver and not allowing the speaker to hear such stuff ?? !!
plus the " first-of-the-month " thunderstorms are in the area and I problably could not hear any thing anyway for all the static crashes ( no it aint raining here, and problably will not ---rain tends to go around this location by several miles so it effects far more folks than just me, and they aint done nothing wrong to deserve such dry conditions, they are good people ).
Have to be sure to listen to 75 meters tonight...full moon / saturday night / first day of the month.....should be lots of fights if that cranks your tractor to listen to.