HATE AMERICA MOYERS [Archive]

wa8rti

08-26-2007, 09:09 PM

There you go again!! What does it take to get you to understand that disagreement with the Shrub does not constitute hate for America? #Oh yes, I forget, you don't want to understand the finer points of a democratic society. Unquestioning loyality is the only standard of measure in your lexicon of American values. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

K6BBC

08-26-2007, 09:22 PM

al2n

08-26-2007, 09:24 PM

NL7W

08-26-2007, 10:40 PM

O'Reilly has already proved Moyers to be a liar, or completely senile in his old age, as well as a far-left loon. Moyers started an attack of Bill O'Reilly, I believe. He couldn't lie well enough to pull off his wild assertion.

Nothing new here...

n2ize

08-26-2007, 10:49 PM

Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 26 2007,15:40)]O'Reilly has already proved Moyers to be a liar, or completely senile in his old age, as well as a far-left loon. #Moyers started an attack of Bill O'Reilly, I believe. #He couldn't lie well enough to pull off his wild assertion.

Nothing new here...
Let's see, Billo = a proven liar, and assuming Moyers is a liar we then have liar accusing liar of being liar.

n2ize

08-26-2007, 10:54 PM

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 26 2007,13:38)]Time to stop using taxpayer dollars to fund PBS and hate America, extreme LEFTIST, posing as a journalist, Bill Moyers.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15158/print
http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/26/video-chris-wallace-smacks-bill-moyers-over-rove/?print=1)
Well lets see, the White House ruined it's own credibility when they started the corrupt war based on lies. So why wouldn;t they also lie about the surge. They have but one interest here. To remain in Iraq for as long as possible. So, they lied then why wouldn't they lie now. The surge can't work because you can't win a corrupt war. Anyone who can take anything either of these far right uber extremist blogs says is nuts.

ad4mg

08-26-2007, 10:54 PM

n2ize

08-26-2007, 10:58 PM

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Aug. 26 2007,14:22)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 26 2007,13:38)]Time to stop using taxpayer dollars to fund PBS and hate America, extreme LEFTIST, posing as a journalist, Bill Moyers.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15158/print
http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/26/video-chris-wallace-smacks-bill-moyers-over-rove/?print=1)
I agree government should not support PBS, NPR, or any other art. #It's not government's business.

bbc
Of course the government should fund the arts for the simple reason that much like the sciences, art is an integral part of culture. The less of a regard for art the weaker we are as a nation.

I can however understand the conservatives contempt for art. Art has always been a form of expression including political views indicating both patriotism and dissent (which is often a form of patriotism). Culling the arts is a manner of silencing expression. However, without art we are a vapid culture.

kc0ukk

08-26-2007, 11:56 PM

Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ Aug. 26 2007,14:09)]There you go again!! What does it take to get you to understand that disagreement with the Shrub does not constitute hate for America? #Oh yes, I forget, you don't want to understand the finer points of a democratic society. Unquestioning loyality is the only standard of measure in your lexicon of American values. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
What does it take for you to understand the difference between hatred for Bush and hatred for America? If I hate Bush, does that mean I love America? Can I hate both? Can I hate America and love Bush?

Bill Moyers hates America and that hate is reflected in his disagreement with Bush. Moyers hates anybody that loves America.

K6BBC

08-27-2007, 12:06 AM

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 26 2007,15:58)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Aug. 26 2007,14:22)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 26 2007,13:38)]Time to stop using taxpayer dollars to fund PBS and hate America, extreme LEFTIST, posing as a journalist, Bill Moyers.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15158/print
http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/26/video-chris-wallace-smacks-bill-moyers-over-rove/?print=1)
I agree government should not support PBS, NPR, or any other art. It's not government's business.

bbc
Of course the government should fund the arts for the simple reason that much like the sciences, art is an integral part of culture. The less of a regard for art the weaker we are as a nation.

I can however understand the conservatives contempt for art. Art has always been a form of expression including political views indicating both patriotism and dissent (which is often a form of patriotism). Culling the arts is a manner of silencing expression. However, without art we are a vapid culture.
I have no contempt for art. My argument comes from the experience of working with artist. There is so much politicking as to who gets what grant, etc., I just don't want to see my government involved, another words, I don't want my tax dollars going to some BS art project. I am not a strict Libertarian who believes government should not exist, there is a role for government -- especially in science and research. There are some area where the market system does not do as good a job -- but that is not the arts. I never want what art is created left up to the most uncreative in our society.

bbc

K6BBC

08-27-2007, 12:07 AM

Quote[/b] (kc0ukk @ Aug. 26 2007,16:56)]Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ Aug. 26 2007,14:09)]There you go again!! What does it take to get you to understand that disagreement with the Shrub does not constitute hate for America? Oh yes, I forget, you don't want to understand the finer points of a democratic society. Unquestioning loyality is the only standard of measure in your lexicon of American values. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
What does it take for you to understand the difference between hatred for Bush and hatred for America? If I hate Bush, does that mean I love America? Can I hate both? Can I hate America and love Bush?

Bill Moyers hates America and that hate is reflected in his disagreement with Bush. Moyers hates anybody that loves America.
Sorry. If you believe Moyers hates American you have swallowed too much of the crap Sean Hannity and The Drug Addict are serving.

bbc

kc0ukk

08-27-2007, 12:12 AM

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Aug. 26 2007,17:07)]Quote[/b] (kc0ukk @ Aug. 26 2007,16:56)]Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ Aug. 26 2007,14:09)]There you go again!! What does it take to get you to understand that disagreement with the Shrub does not constitute hate for America? #Oh yes, I forget, you don't want to understand the finer points of a democratic society. Unquestioning loyality is the only standard of measure in your lexicon of American values. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
What does it take for you to understand the difference between hatred for Bush and hatred for America? #If I hate Bush, does that mean I love America? #Can I hate both? #Can I hate America and love Bush?

Bill Moyers hates America and that hate is reflected in his disagreement with Bush. Moyers hates anybody that loves America.
Sorry. #If you believe Moyers hates American you have swallowed too much of the crap Sean Hannity and The Drug Addict are serving.

bbc
I came first; Hannity, Rush and the others followed. Some of those star-struck media lovers will never understand, but that doesn't make it any less true.

k4kyv

08-27-2007, 12:12 AM

Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ Aug. 26 2007,21:09)]There you go again!! What does it take to get you to understand that disagreement with the Shrub does not constitute hate for America? Oh yes, I forget, you don't want to understand the finer points of a democratic society. Unquestioning loyality is the only standard of measure in your lexicon of American values. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Don't you know that anything out of the lunatic fringe is "extreme LEFTIST"?

PBS and NPR are about the only refuge we have to find anything worth listening to or watching in the vast wasteland of radio and TV broadcasting in the US.

They may get some government funding, but the vast majority of their financing comes from corporate and foundation grants, and listener contributions.

The government probably spends enough on public radio and TV per year to fund about 30 seconds of the Iraq debacle.

kg6amw

08-27-2007, 01:50 PM

Given the number of beggathons PBS goes through annually, I quit watching long ago. As for Moyers he's a bore in the first degree.

nx6d

08-27-2007, 01:55 PM

Quote[/b] (kc0ukk @ Aug. 26 2007,15:56)]Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ Aug. 26 2007,14:09)]There you go again!! What does it take to get you to understand that disagreement with the Shrub does not constitute hate for America? #Oh yes, I forget, you don't want to understand the finer points of a democratic society. Unquestioning loyality is the only standard of measure in your lexicon of American values. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
What does it take for you to understand the difference between hatred for Bush and hatred for America? #If I hate Bush, does that mean I love America? #Can I hate both? #Can I hate America and love Bush?

Bill Moyers hates America and that hate is reflected in his disagreement with Bush. Moyers hates anybody that loves America.
Between you and NL7W, the kool-aid is flowing freely today...

Unbelievable...

nx6d

08-27-2007, 01:57 PM

Quote[/b] (kc0ukk @ Aug. 26 2007,16:12)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Aug. 26 2007,17:07)]Quote[/b] (kc0ukk @ Aug. 26 2007,16:56)]Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ Aug. 26 2007,14:09)]There you go again!! What does it take to get you to understand that disagreement with the Shrub does not constitute hate for America? #Oh yes, I forget, you don't want to understand the finer points of a democratic society. Unquestioning loyality is the only standard of measure in your lexicon of American values. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
What does it take for you to understand the difference between hatred for Bush and hatred for America? #If I hate Bush, does that mean I love America? #Can I hate both? #Can I hate America and love Bush?

Bill Moyers hates America and that hate is reflected in his disagreement with Bush. Moyers hates anybody that loves America.
Sorry. #If you believe Moyers hates American you have swallowed too much of the crap Sean Hannity and The Drug Addict are serving.

bbc
I came first; Hannity, Rush and the others followed. #Some of those star-struck media lovers will never understand, but that doesn't make it any less true.
uh, ok.

So all the dumb cliches came FIRST from you, not talk radio.

yeah, right, Mr. free thinker.

Maybe you'd like to sell us a bridge too...

K2WH

08-27-2007, 02:34 PM

As is typical the usuals come out of the woodwork to support and defend the likes of Moyers. I have never watched him, but when he makes the news it sickens me. The man is unrepentent in his hate for Bush.

But, like Rush and Hannity, he is just and entertainer. He found his shtik but I beleive him to be a #1 ahole.

K2WH

ad4mg

08-27-2007, 02:41 PM

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 27 2007,10:34)]He found his shtik but I beleive him to be a #1 ahole.

K2WH
Just like Rush, Hannity, and Coulter?

K2WH

08-27-2007, 02:44 PM

Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 27 2007,03:41)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 27 2007,10:34)]He found his shtik but I beleive him to be a #1 ahole.

K2WH
Just like Rush, Hannity, and Coulter?
Of course not, they love America. Moyers hates it and can't find any reason to like it. Simple as that.

kl7aj

08-27-2007, 03:01 PM

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 26 2007,15:58)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Aug. 26 2007,14:22)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 26 2007,13:38)]Time to stop using taxpayer dollars to fund PBS and hate America, extreme LEFTIST, posing as a journalist, Bill Moyers.

http://newsbusters.org/node/15158/print
http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/26/video-chris-wallace-smacks-bill-moyers-over-rove/?print=1)
I agree government should not support PBS, NPR, or any other art. #It's not government's business.

bbc
Of course the government should fund the arts for the simple reason that much like the sciences, art is an integral part of culture. The less of a regard for art the weaker we are as a nation.

I can however understand the conservatives contempt for art. Art has always been a form of expression including political views indicating both patriotism and dissent (which is often a form of patriotism). #Culling the arts is a manner of silencing expression. However, without art we are a vapid culture.
My opposition to government sponsorship of art comes from a different angle. "With shekels come shackles." As soon as you start taking money from the government, you are in danger of accepting censureship....i.e. "political correctness." As a writer, I would much prefer a little poverty to muzzling. (Which is why I haven't quit my day job yet.)

Eric

KB1KIX

08-27-2007, 04:47 PM

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Aug. 26 2007,17:22)]I agree government should not support PBS, NPR, or any other art. #It's not government's business.

bbc
Dayum, BBC - we agree again?

Say it isn't so!

Federal government shouldn't be in many businesses - period.

Jonathan

n2nh

08-27-2007, 04:48 PM

Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 26 2007,18:40)]O'Reilly has already proved Moyers to be a liar, or completely senile in his old age, as well as a far-left loon. Moyers started an attack of Bill O'Reilly, I believe. He couldn't lie well enough to pull off his wild assertion.

Nothing new here...
So you're saying that BOR is news? After all that you've said that he's entertainment?

What a bunch of baloney. Typical righties trying to have it both ways. BOR couldn't even beat Daily Kos. Heck he keeps saying he's single handedly brought France to its knees.

I can't believe you even mentioned that loser. He's a total embarassment but, I guess that makes him a hero to the topsy-turvy righties, eh, Herr AJ?

n2nh

08-27-2007, 04:50 PM

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 27 2007,10:44)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 27 2007,03:41)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 27 2007,10:34)]He found his shtik but I beleive him to be a #1 ahole.

K2WH
Just like Rush, Hannity, and Coulter?
Of course not, they love America. Moyers hates it and can't find any reason to like it. Simple as that.
You just hate Moyers because unlike those idiotic rightie pundits he can speak in multi-syllables and say more than a sentence at a time without losing his focus.

Moyers is probably the most American commentator out there, but the rightie culture of vultures have to shoot him down with their constant hate for anything they disagree with.

Losers. I can't wait for '08.

KB1KIX

08-27-2007, 05:01 PM

Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 27 2007,10:41)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 27 2007,10:34)]He found his shtik but I beleive him to be a #1 ahole.

K2WH
Just like Rush, Hannity, and Coulter?
Pssst.....

Rush, Hannity and Coulter aren't funded by our tax dollars!

Jonathan

N2RJ

08-27-2007, 05:05 PM

Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 27 2007,12:01)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 27 2007,10:41)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 27 2007,10:34)]He found his shtik but I beleive him to be a #1 ahole.

K2WH
Just like Rush, Hannity, and Coulter?
Pssst.....

Rush, Hannity and Coulter aren't funded by our tax dollars!

Jonathan
Sure about that? (http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/05/26/rush_limbaugh/index.html)

If true, this is indeed revolting.

n2nh

08-27-2007, 05:07 PM

Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Aug. 27 2007,13:05)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 27 2007,12:01)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 27 2007,10:41)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 27 2007,10:34)]He found his shtik but I beleive him to be a #1 ahole.

K2WH
Just like Rush, Hannity, and Coulter?
Pssst.....

Rush, Hannity and Coulter aren't funded by our tax dollars!

Jonathan
Sure about that? (http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/05/26/rush_limbaugh/index.html)

If true, this is indeed revolting.
Great post. That is revolting. In a fascist sort of way of course.
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KB1KIX

08-27-2007, 05:08 PM

First - Salon is famous for taking things to the left perspective.... but I'll roll with that article.

Doesn't say the fed is paying for the rights to air the material.

Franken - doesn't back his point up either. The point that can only be made is that Armed Forces Radio infrastructure is rebroadcasting his program.

That, is a split hair, as Rush might not be getting financial compensation for his program.

If, AFR is indeed paying for Rush's program - then that is just plain wrong - period.

I don't think our tax dollars should pay for any such programming regardless of partisan political ideology.

Jonathan

N2RJ

08-27-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 27 2007,12:08)]First - Salon is famous for taking things to the left perspective.... but I'll roll with that article.

Doesn't say the fed is paying for the rights to air the material.

Franken - doesn't back his point up either. The point that can only be made is that Armed Forces Radio infrastructure is rebroadcasting his program.

That, is a split hair, as Rush might not be getting financial compensation for his program.

If, AFR is indeed paying for Rush's program - then that is just plain wrong - period.

I don't think our tax dollars should pay for any such programming regardless of partisan political ideology.

Jonathan
Well bro, it don't matter if Limbaugh is giving away his programming. In fact, I'm sure he is.

Broadcasting is not free and AFRTS is not free.

El' Rushbo is getting a free ride to Iraq, each day, every day, on your dime.

But I'm glad you agree on principle.

Oh, btw, Isn't Rush's show ad supported as well?

kc0ukk

08-27-2007, 11:50 PM

Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Aug. 27 2007,10:17)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 27 2007,12:08)]First - Salon is famous for taking things to the left perspective.... but I'll roll with that article.

Doesn't say the fed is paying for the rights to air the material.

Franken - doesn't back his point up either. #The point that can only be made is that Armed Forces Radio infrastructure is rebroadcasting his program. #

That, is a split hair, as Rush might not be getting financial compensation for his program.

If, AFR is indeed paying for Rush's program - then that is just plain wrong - period.

I don't think our tax dollars should pay for any such programming regardless of partisan political ideology.

Jonathan
Well bro, it don't matter if Limbaugh is giving away his programming. In fact, I'm sure he is.

Broadcasting is not free and AFRTS is not free.

El' Rushbo is getting a free ride to Iraq, each day, every day, on your dime.

But I'm glad you agree on principle.

Oh, btw, Isn't Rush's show ad supported as well?
The troops are getting the programming they want. While Rush may gain from that, it's the troops AFR are supporting.

N2RJ

08-28-2007, 12:11 AM

Quote[/b] (kc0ukk @ Aug. 27 2007,18:50)]Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Aug. 27 2007,10:17)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 27 2007,12:08)]First - Salon is famous for taking things to the left perspective.... but I'll roll with that article.

Doesn't say the fed is paying for the rights to air the material.

Franken - doesn't back his point up either. The point that can only be made is that Armed Forces Radio infrastructure is rebroadcasting his program.

That, is a split hair, as Rush might not be getting financial compensation for his program.

If, AFR is indeed paying for Rush's program - then that is just plain wrong - period.

I don't think our tax dollars should pay for any such programming regardless of partisan political ideology.

Jonathan
Well bro, it don't matter if Limbaugh is giving away his programming. In fact, I'm sure he is.

Broadcasting is not free and AFRTS is not free.

El' Rushbo is getting a free ride to Iraq, each day, every day, on your dime.

But I'm glad you agree on principle.

Oh, btw, Isn't Rush's show ad supported as well?
The troops are getting the programming they want. While Rush may gain from that, it's the troops AFR are supporting.

That may be true but why no Howard Stern?

He's far more popular than Rush!

I don't buy the "ratings" argument, and Howard's show isn't as bad as you'd believe.

NL7W

08-28-2007, 06:31 PM

Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Aug. 27 2007,16:11)]Quote[/b] (kc0ukk @ Aug. 27 2007,18:50)]Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Aug. 27 2007,10:17)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 27 2007,12:08)]First - Salon is famous for taking things to the left perspective.... but I'll roll with that article.

Doesn't say the fed is paying for the rights to air the material.

Franken - doesn't back his point up either. The point that can only be made is that Armed Forces Radio infrastructure is rebroadcasting his program.

That, is a split hair, as Rush might not be getting financial compensation for his program.

If, AFR is indeed paying for Rush's program - then that is just plain wrong - period.

I don't think our tax dollars should pay for any such programming regardless of partisan political ideology.

Jonathan
Well bro, it don't matter if Limbaugh is giving away his programming. In fact, I'm sure he is.

Broadcasting is not free and AFRTS is not free.

El' Rushbo is getting a free ride to Iraq, each day, every day, on your dime.

But I'm glad you agree on principle.

Oh, btw, Isn't Rush's show ad supported as well?
The troops are getting the programming they want. While Rush may gain from that, it's the troops AFR are supporting.

That may be true but why no Howard Stern?

He's far more popular than Rush!

I don't buy the "ratings" argument, and Howard's show isn't as bad as you'd believe.
There's entertainment, and then there's entertainment...

Rush provides the 100% support and backup of the missions and troops in the Middle East. His political current events coverage is slanted, but excellent.

OTOH, Stern shows are sexually motivated -- a subject the the brave men and women in-theater mostly do without -- frustrating. He antics would be like throwing gasoline on a fire over yonder...

Toodles.

N2RJ

08-28-2007, 06:51 PM

Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 28 2007,13:31)]There's entertainment, and then there's entertainment...

Rush provides the 100% support and backup of the missions and troops in the Middle East. His political current events coverage is slanted, but excellent.

OTOH, Stern shows are sexually motivated -- a subject the the brave men and women in-theater mostly do without -- frustrating. He antics would be like throwing gasoline on a fire over yonder...

Toodles.
Have you ever listened to Howard? I'm not talking about sound bites. I'm talking about a whole show. There's not nearly the amount of sex as you believe. There is a lot of talking and commentary on social issues. however.

So the issue of " too much sex" is a lame excuse.

Stern is exactly what they need.

Furthermore, we are not dealing with 10 year old kids. We are dealing with grown men and women.

Howard is entertainment, and he's popular. More popular than Limbaugh, even.

It is quite clear why Stern isn't on AFRTS - he criticizes Bush and the war, which is why the troops aren't given the opportunity to hear him.

w2amr

08-28-2007, 08:34 PM

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 27 2007,07:44)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 27 2007,03:41)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 27 2007,10:34)]He found his shtik but I beleive him to be a #1 ahole.

K2WH
Just like Rush, Hannity, and Coulter?
Of course not, they love America. #Moyers hates it and can't find any reason to like it. #Simple as that.
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