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w2amr
08-25-2007, 06:53 PM
Atlanta Pol Seeks Ban On Baggy Pants
link (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/23/national/main3197844.shtml?source=RSSattr=U.S._3197844)
K4TDM
08-25-2007, 07:16 PM
Seems to be a big concern in Georgia schools, too.
One explanation I've heard is that school administrators are worried about concealed weapons. So I think it's more than a cultural bias. A lot of white boys have adopted the style as well.
The article says the fellow behind the measure is black, yet he's accused of racial profiling. Bill Cosby got shouted down, too, for criticizing some urban trends.
Rebellious teenagers are nothing new. What is new is parents reacting to sanctions against their precious little ones with protests and lawsuits.
Everybody's pretty quick to take offense to something, maybe even anxious. . . .
w2amr
08-25-2007, 07:21 PM
Quote[/b] (K4TDM @ Aug. 25 2007,12:16)]Seems to be a big concern in Georgia schools, too.
One explanation I've heard is that school administrators are worried about concealed weapons. #So I think it's more than a cultural bias. #A lot of white boys have adopted the style as well.
The article says the fellow behind the measure is black, yet he's accused of racial profiling. #Bill Cosby got shouted down, too, for criticizing some urban trends.
Rebellious teenagers are nothing new. #What is new is parents reacting to sanctions against their precious little ones with protests and lawsuits.
Everybody's pretty quick to take offense to something, maybe even anxious. . . .
Well, I hope they don't have any bans like that around here. It would end a major source of entertainment for me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
K4TDM
08-25-2007, 07:28 PM
When we were kids, way back when, we played cowboys and indians. We'd gallop around on broomstick horses.
Watching some of these kids trying to run in PE class, with one hand holding up their britches reminds me of that pasttime. . . . http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
G0GQK
08-25-2007, 08:21 PM
I saw a photo in the newspaper of a teenage clown wearing these stupid oversize bags. Somebody should take their photo's from the rear, print them in a local newspaper in a competion under the heading, "Who owns dis clown " ? They would see for themselves how ridiculous they look.
G0GQK
W3MIV
08-25-2007, 08:58 PM
Quote[/b] (G0GQK @ Aug. 25 2007,16:21)]I saw a photo in the newspaper of a teenage clown wearing these stupid oversize bags. Somebody should take their photo's from the rear, print them in a local newspaper in a competion under the heading, "Who owns dis clown " ? They would see for themselves how ridiculous they look.
Prison chic. Displays a warp in society that is hard to correct, given the parents overall lack of interest. Showing them in a paper would merely reward their behavior. Oh, sorry, behaviour.
While all teens are rebellious -- it is as normal and natural to development in the human species as in any other mammal -- when I was that age we found a vast number of far more sophisticated (and some not at all so) avenues for rebellion. Had we resorted to this sort of display, we would have been expelled from school, or at the least, suspended and put on an onerous probation. Worse, parents then would not have reacted with protests or lawsuits. It would have been far faster and far more physical than that.
Find Benjamin Spock's headstone and add a bit of color to it.
k9kxq
08-25-2007, 10:25 PM
When I was in High School we had a dress code, no blue jeans,shirt had to be tucked in and a belt.
Honestly I think these kids with the baggy shorts and their underwear showing are just flat silly looking...
kxq
w2amr
08-25-2007, 10:51 PM
Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Aug. 25 2007,15:25)]When I was in High School we had a dress code, no blue jeans,shirt had to be tucked in and a belt.
Honestly I think these kids with the baggy shorts and their underwear showing are just flat silly looking...
kxq
And when they are out driving in their imported modified clown cars , slouched in the seats , with ball caps on sideways, and sub woofers thumping , it is a never ending source of entertainment for me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
k9kxq
08-25-2007, 10:53 PM
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 25 2007,17:51)]Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Aug. 25 2007,15:25)]When I was in High School we had a dress code, no blue jeans,shirt had to be tucked in and a belt.
Honestly I think these kids with the baggy shorts and their underwear showing are just flat silly looking...
kxq
And when they are out driving in their imported modified clown cars , slouched in the seats , with ball caps on sideways, and sub woofers thumping , it is a never ending source of entertainment for me. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
It's the Bozo syndrome, all they need is the colored hair, they have the shoes to match...
kxq
n2ize
08-25-2007, 11:32 PM
Every older generations have a set of ideas as to how the younger generation should dress, act behave. And every older generation condemns the younger generation over the exact same things. And the younger generations figure it's just another bunch of old curmudgeons.
It was no different when i was much younger. Long hair, faded bell bottom jeans, etc.. were the in things for the times. And boy did we catch hell from the older generation. Look at these kids, they dress like bums, they have no respect, you cannot tell the boys from the girls (funny I always could), they are lazy, no good, they are all doped up, they listen to horrid music, etc. etc.
Now today the ones who wore the long hair, who wore the bell bottom jeans, who listened to the horrid music, etc. are now the ones complaining about todays youth, they are lazy, they dress horrible, they listen to horrid music, etc...
Guess the torch get passed on from on generation to the next. One gets to become the complainers and the other gets to be the ones complained about... And the beat goes on/
kd5kfl
08-26-2007, 12:12 AM
Everytime my coworker Lorenzo goes by ( good people, solid worker ) I tell him "Shaquille O'Neal called and he wants his pants back!"
Hey anyone remember "Clam Digger" pants? How about the Nehru Jacket?
K2WH
I don't support this at all. Especially the part about thongs. They want to ban whale tails? That ban will never be obeyed...
As long as you're not naked, what's the problem?
n7zsd
08-26-2007, 06:23 AM
The scary part is that alot of kids, even way out here, want to be like the gangstas on tv and in the music scene. They act like they are from the hood. I tell them they wouldn't last 2 minutes in the hood. I've seen the hood, and I was scared, and I don't scare easily! So pull up your pants, put your hat on straight and quit jive-talkin' me! And if you do that thing with your hand at me again, I will break off your fingers and shove them in a place where fingers weren't meant to be! GAWD, I hate gangsta wanna-be's!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
n6hcm
08-26-2007, 07:49 AM
Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Aug. 25 2007,17:28)]As long as you're not naked, what's the problem?
on the street i have no problem ... at school it's a different story, imho.
O.K. I have to ask. What does imho mean?
w2amr
08-26-2007, 08:06 AM
Quote[/b] (n7zsd @ Aug. 25 2007,23:23)]The scary part is that alot of kids, even way out here, want to be like the gangstas on tv and in the music scene. #They act like they are from the hood. #I tell them they wouldn't last 2 minutes in the hood. #I've seen the hood, and I was scared, and I don't scare easily! #So pull up your pants, put your hat on straight and quit jive-talkin' me! #And if you do that thing with your hand at me again, I will break off your fingers and shove them in a place where fingers weren't meant to be! #GAWD, I hate gangsta wanna-be's!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Do what I do, relax and enjoy the show. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
n2ize
08-26-2007, 10:03 AM
I think it's disgraceful. Back in my day our generation had respect. We were the last good generation. Not like these young whippersnappers now days. Back then we dressed respectfully, in our faded jeans, bell bottoms, faded green tattered army jackets. Back then we wore our hair long. Not like these whimpy haircuts these kids wear nowadays. I'll tell you these kids nowadays just ain't the same. They never woulda made it had they been around in my generation.
Quote[/b] (nq6v @ Aug. 25 2007,01:53)]O.K. I have to ask. What does imho mean?
In Michigan Hotel Offices
W3MIV
08-26-2007, 12:07 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 25 2007,19:32)]Every older generations have a set of ideas as to how the younger generation should dress, act behave. And every older generation condemns the younger generation over the exact same things. And the younger generations figure it's just another bunch of old curmudgeons.
Not surprisingly, you are wrong. Again. Getting to be a habit with you.
When I was a teenager in the 1950s, the "in" thing (to use a bit of idiotic argot) was to look well groomed, and not like a felon, a tramp or a denizen of the gutters.
We wore chino trousers (generally with a belt in back), open-collar button-down shirt and "penny loafers." In cool weather, we added a light Vee-neck sweater to the acculturated raiment.
Even the "other class" of teens in those times, we called the "drapes," considered it a matter of pride to be well groomed and well accoutered. They wore their hair in a classic "DA," while ours was kept short in what was then known as a "crew cut." As well, they affected a different sort of attire, preferring black leather jackets bespeckled with chains, zippers and studs, tightly fitting jeans (which we inevitably called "dungarees") and sharply pointed shoes with Cuban heels. They were dandies, somewhat foppish, and their standard sidearm was an Ace comb. When they attempted a semi-formal attire, the trousers were inevitably "pegged," gripping their ankles and ballooning the looser trouser legs almost like harem pants -- but the creases were sharp, and they were neatly attired.
Parents did not frown upon us, nor did they frown upon the "drapes" (though we considered them to be tonsorially inferior with masses of oiled hair falling readily into their eyes at the least provocation) unless a manifest lack of courtesy or public decorum brought immediate criticism. Schools in those times adhered to a dress code that demanded neatness, generally forbidding jeans, and some schools of my youth mandated a necktie for class. Most, however, did not. But the idea of sweat shirts emblazoned with obscene of uncouth expressions of "individuality" would be greeted with suspension -- at the least.
Those were far better times. The youth of today are losing their hearing to mindless noise, either through headsets or in the cars we could not afford and were not given, and they cannot figure without an electronic aid, they cannot spell, they cannot parse, they cannot assemble a reasonable sentence if three Hizbollah thugs held them to the task at the price of their lives.
That you praise this lot of chaff is telling in itself.
W3MIV
08-26-2007, 12:10 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 26 2007,06:03)]I think it's disgraceful. #Back in my day...
That would be yesterday?
kg4rqa
08-26-2007, 01:00 PM
Well, I agree that pretty much all of them are wanna-be's. That's a sad statement of our culture today. But as for myself, I have a foot-long ponytail (which may mean there's a horse's a## beneath it, and I wear an earring, and have never worn slacks or a necktie in my life. I listen to rock and roll, sure, but I listen to classical as well, and I am well-educated. HOWEVER I wouldn't think of dressing myself according to peers and I certainly wouldn't want to be a gangsta. I dress for the practicalities of life, and let me say this, as well.... If one of those bozos came to my farm looking for a job dressed like that, I'd tell him he needs to go wipe his butt because it looks like he just dropped a load in his pants. I don't need anybody working for me that has to pull his pants up every 20 seconds, and furthermore, they show me no original thinking because they have to be like "everybody else". Well, let 'em. But not around me, because I have some respect for myself....and that's http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif with me.
N8UZE
08-26-2007, 01:12 PM
Quote[/b] (nq6v @ Aug. 26 2007,03:53)]O.K. I have to ask. What does imho mean?
In My Humble Opinion
G8ADD
08-26-2007, 03:43 PM
Quote[/b] (N8UZE @ Aug. 26 2007,06:12)]Quote[/b] (nq6v @ Aug. 26 2007,03:53)]O.K. I have to ask. What does imho mean?
In My Humble Opinion
Opinions are rarely humble! I thought it was In My Honest Opinion. Not that it matters......
73
Brian G8ADD
Just to add a little spin to the thread...
Along with hanging pants, add rap music--white kids get into it because they want to be black without being black, as if to say to blacks "We're like you and we're outraged as your are." What they don't understand is that it takes more than listening to music and dressing differently to truly experience another race's culture.
Maybe they should read the classic, "Black Like Me" by John Howard Griffin...that is, if they can read. :S
KA8DKT
08-26-2007, 04:00 PM
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 25 2007,18:51)]Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Aug. 25 2007,15:25)]When I was in High School we had a dress code, no blue jeans,shirt had to be tucked in and a belt.
Honestly I think these kids with the baggy shorts and their underwear showing are just flat silly looking...
kxq
And when they are out driving in their imported modified clown cars , slouched in the seats , with ball caps on sideways, and sub woofers thumping , it is a never ending source of entertainment for me. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif(My emphasis)
"Def Before Forty"
-gary
KA8DKT
08-26-2007, 04:38 PM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Aug. 26 2007,08:07)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 25 2007,19:32)]Every older generations have a set of ideas as to how the younger generation should dress, act behave. And every older generation condemns the younger generation over the exact same things. And the younger generations figure it's just another bunch of old curmudgeons.
Not surprisingly, you are wrong. Again. Getting to be a habit with you.
When I was a teenager in the 1950s, the "in" thing (to use a bit of idiotic argot) was to look well groomed, and not like a felon, a tramp or a denizen of the gutters.
We wore chino trousers (generally with a belt in back), open-collar button-down shirt and "penny loafers." In cool weather, we added a light Vee-neck sweater to the acculturated raiment.
Even the "other class" of teens in those times, we called the "drapes," considered it a matter of pride to be well groomed and well accoutered. They wore their hair in a classic "DA," while ours was kept short in what was then known as a "crew cut." As well, they affected a different sort of attire, preferring black leather jackets bespeckled with chains, zippers and studs, tightly fitting jeans (which we inevitably called "dungarees") and sharply pointed shoes with Cuban heels. They were dandies, somewhat foppish, and their standard sidearm was an Ace comb. When they attempted a semi-formal attire, the trousers were inevitably "pegged," gripping their ankles and ballooning the looser trouser legs almost like harem pants -- but the creases were sharp, and they were neatly attired.
Parents did not frown upon us, nor did they frown upon the "drapes" (though we considered them to be tonsorially inferior with masses of oiled hair falling readily into their eyes at the least provocation) unless a manifest lack of courtesy or public decorum brought immediate criticism. Schools in those times adhered to a dress code that demanded neatness, generally forbidding jeans, and some schools of my youth mandated a necktie for class. Most, however, did not. But the idea of sweat shirts emblazoned with obscene of uncouth expressions of "individuality" would be greeted with suspension -- at the least.
Those were far better times. The youth of today are losing their hearing to mindless noise, either through headsets or in the cars we could not afford and were not given, and they cannot figure without an electronic aid, they cannot spell, they cannot parse, they cannot assemble a reasonable sentence if three Hizbollah thugs held them to the task at the price of their lives.
That you praise this lot of chaff is telling in itself.
'MIV-
You are correct. #I do agree, partially, with 'NIZ though. #
The problem is that each new generation's excursions into that land of "youthful rebellion" seems even more outrageous than the last.
Unfortunately, the long hair of forty and fifty years ago is nowhere near as offensive as buffoon clothing. #
On the other hand, I guess that if you dress like you have no self respect, then no one will respect you. #If you dress like a clown, then people will assume that you are, in fact, a clown and will treat you accordingly.
-gary
KA8DKT
08-26-2007, 04:40 PM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Aug. 26 2007,08:07)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 25 2007,19:32)]Every older generations have a set of ideas as to how the younger generation should dress, act behave. And every older generation condemns the younger generation over the exact same things. And the younger generations figure it's just another bunch of old curmudgeons.
Not surprisingly, you are wrong. Again. Getting to be a habit with you.
When I was a teenager in the 1950s, the "in" thing (to use a bit of idiotic argot) was to look well groomed, and not like a felon, a tramp or a denizen of the gutters.
We wore chino trousers (generally with a belt in back), open-collar button-down shirt and "penny loafers." In cool weather, we added a light Vee-neck sweater to the acculturated raiment.
Even the "other class" of teens in those times, we called the "drapes," considered it a matter of pride to be well groomed and well accoutered. They wore their hair in a classic "DA," while ours was kept short in what was then known as a "crew cut." As well, they affected a different sort of attire, preferring black leather jackets bespeckled with chains, zippers and studs, tightly fitting jeans (which we inevitably called "dungarees") and sharply pointed shoes with Cuban heels. They were dandies, somewhat foppish, and their standard sidearm was an Ace comb. When they attempted a semi-formal attire, the trousers were inevitably "pegged," gripping their ankles and ballooning the looser trouser legs almost like harem pants -- but the creases were sharp, and they were neatly attired.
Parents did not frown upon us, nor did they frown upon the "drapes" (though we considered them to be tonsorially inferior with masses of oiled hair falling readily into their eyes at the least provocation) unless a manifest lack of courtesy or public decorum brought immediate criticism. Schools in those times adhered to a dress code that demanded neatness, generally forbidding jeans, and some schools of my youth mandated a necktie for class. Most, however, did not. But the idea of sweat shirts emblazoned with obscene of uncouth expressions of "individuality" would be greeted with suspension -- at the least.
Those were far better times. The youth of today are losing their hearing to mindless noise, either through headsets or in the cars we could not afford and were not given, and they cannot figure without an electronic aid, they cannot spell, they cannot parse, they cannot assemble a reasonable sentence if three Hizbollah thugs held them to the task at the price of their lives.
That you praise this lot of chaff is telling in itself.
'MIV-
You are correct. #I do agree, partially, with 'IZE though. #
The problem is that each new generation's excursions into that land of "youthful rebellion" seems even more outrageous than the last.
Unfortunately, the long hair of forty and fifty years ago is nowhere near as offensive as buffoon clothing. #
On the other hand, I guess that if you dress like you have no self respect, then no one will respect you. #If you dress like a clown, then people will assume that you are, in fact, a clown and will treat you accordingly.
-gary