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W0UZR

08-12-2007, 05:24 PM

It's hardly ever that you will see me start a political thread, but this one has me erked. If our leaders were smart in the early years, they would have made a staunch iron clad law or amendment to the Constitution that:

1. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO LAND in the US can be sold to ANY foreign country.

2. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO foreign country can own or operate any business in the US.

3. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the US CAN NOT move any business/company to a foreign country.

4. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the US can not do any more than 10% trade with any country.

And I would have made it to where we couldn't deviate from the Silver and Gold money certificates notes. (the old money)

Do you think we would be in much better shape now if all this took place? Also remember that China gets all their, or should I say 'Our' stuff made for free in the prisons there. Their prisons are just factories....They don't pay the prisoners one red cent.
(orWhatEverYouCallTheCurrencyThere)

Selling America to Communist China (http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=1174969)

k9kxq

08-12-2007, 05:32 PM

I've said this all along, NO foreign country should ever be allowed to own land in the United States of America.

I'm in agreement with you on all your points...

kxq

k4kyv

08-12-2007, 06:14 PM

Not to worry. Our government has taken adequate countermeasures against the economic threat from communist countries. Our customs agents confiscate Cuban cigars, legally purchased in Canada, from elderly gentlemen as they cross the border on their return trip to USA.

Makes me feel safe about the future of our country.

KG4CGC

08-12-2007, 06:20 PM

Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 12 2007,05:24)]It's hardly ever that you will see me start a political thread, but this one has me erked. If our leaders were smart in the early years, they would have made a staunch iron clad law or amendment to the Constitution that:

1. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO LAND in the US can be sold to ANY foreign country.

2. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO foreign country can own or operate any business in the US.

3. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the US CAN NOT move any business/company to a foreign country.

4. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the US can not do any more than 10% trade with any country.

And I would have made it to where we couldn't deviate from the Silver and Gold money certificates notes. (the old money)

Do you think we would be in much better shape now if all this took place? Also remember that China gets all their, or should I say 'Our' stuff made for free in the prisons there. Their prisons are just factories....They don't pay the prisoners one red cent.
(orWhatEverYouCallTheCurrencyThere)

Selling America to Communist China (http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=1174969)
5. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO CHRISTIANS SHALL EVER BE PERSECUTED.

n2ize

08-12-2007, 06:21 PM

Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Aug. 12 2007,11:14)]Not to worry. #Our government has taken adequate countermeasures against the economic threat from communist countries. Our customs agents confiscate Cuban cigars, legally purchased in Canada, from elderly gentlemen as they cross the border on their return trip to USA.

Makes me feel safe about the future of our country.
I'll bet those cigars are laced with marijuana, or some similar deadly mind controlling narcotic. It is probably mixed into the cigars upon order of Castro, the idea being to weaken the will and subvert the minds of good Americans. Smoke one of those Cuban cigars and next thing you know you'll be standing next to some dame playing the piano telling her to play it... faster Faster...FASTER !!

N3ATS

08-12-2007, 08:20 PM

G0GQK

08-12-2007, 08:42 PM

You should worry, pal !
Everybody in the world owns bits of the UK. We only used to have Ford and General Motors ! Heathrow airport as well as Gatwick is owned by a Spanish company, my electricity supplier used to be French now its German, the water company along with many others is owned by a French company, Volvo, Jaguar, and Land Rover cars are owned by Ford, Rolls Royce cars are owned by Germans, Rover cars is owned by the Chinese and there are too many to recall.

American corps. have owned many British company's for years, and as I recall Nasdaq made attempts to buy the British stock exchange and that Australian chap who owns TV and newspapers owns at least half of the British press. A company in the middle east owns Cunard, its the way of the world. Big money is being spent everywhere buying everything.
Just make sure the Taliban don't buy your local tobacconist store or else you'll be smokin' waccy baccy and doing a bums up five times a day !

G0GQK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

N2NKW

08-12-2007, 09:02 PM

Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 12 2007,12:24)]It's hardly ever that you will see me start a political thread, but this one has me erked. If our leaders were smart in the early years, they would have made a staunch iron clad law or amendment to the Constitution that:

1. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO LAND in the US can be sold to ANY foreign country.

2. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO foreign country can own or operate any business in the US.

3. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the US CAN NOT move any business/company to a foreign country.

4. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the US can not do any more than 10% trade with any country.

And I would have made it to where we couldn't deviate from the Silver and Gold money certificates notes. (the old money)

Do you think we would be in much better shape now if all this took place? Also remember that China gets all their, or should I say 'Our' stuff made for free in the prisons there. Their prisons are just factories....They don't pay the prisoners one red cent.
(orWhatEverYouCallTheCurrencyThere)

Selling America to Communist China (http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=1174969)
I don't normally make any responses to this type of post but I have to in this case.

Quote[/b] ]1. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO LAND in the US can be sold to ANY foreign country.
If I own a piece of property, I should be able to sell to whomever I wish. It should be MY decision on who to sell to. The government should never have a hand in this sort of situation UNLESS I am trying to sell property to an enemy of the US in a time of war or the selling of the land would constitute a national security issue. Other then that, the government should have NO hand in whom I sell my property to. Now as to the sale of property owned by the governemnt such as national parks, lands or resources, those should never be sold to a foreign power.

Quote[/b] ]2. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO foreign country can own or operate any business in the US.

I agree with this one.

Quote[/b] ]3. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the US CAN NOT move any business/company to a foreign country.
To have the US be in control of how or where I do my business would be a bad thing unless I was involved in business concerning national security. To have the government tell me otherwise would be a violation of the spirit of freedom at it's very core IMHO. So long as my doing business in a foreign country poses no national security threat, then they should have no say as to where i carry my business.

Quote[/b] ]4. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the US can not do any more than 10% trade with any country.
Once again, The government should NEVER have the authority to put a cap on how much business profit I can make...EVER. They already tax the crap out of business's in the US. For the government to institute such a policy would be the government shooting itself in the foot. Taxes would increase for everyone else because they certainly AREN'T going to decrease taxes to deal with the loss of revenue. The loss of revenue woud be passed on directly to the US citizen. We don't need that.

Quote[/b] ]And I would have made it to where we couldn't deviate from the Silver and Gold money certificates notes. (the old money)
I am not historically knowledgeable about why the government removed gold ans silver notes form circulation. I do seem to remember a story about the banning of gold notes to try to find a blackmailer back in the 20's or something. They made a movie about it. Maybe it was the Lindberg baby ransom or some such situation.

At any rate, I believe our nations forefathers were well aware of the ramifications of putting such a restraint on the capitalist nature of the US. At the time of the initial laying of amendments in this country, the US was not the financial superpower that it is today. To put those restrants would ave been crippling the future development of our country. They knew his so they didn't institute any such amendments

I am also of the belief that our forefathers had NO idea of the nature of todays financial and security situations. There is no way IMHO that they would have had the reason to create such amendments.

just my humble opinions

KC2PBJ

08-12-2007, 09:12 PM

If there is personal profit to be made, Congressional leaders would sell the door knobs from the House and Senate chambers. #We also had American companies selling scrap metals to Japan right up until the attack on Pearl Harbor. #Our own military personnel were, therefore, killed by pieces of their own kitchen sink paid to American businesses. #Personal profits were completely sacred then, now, and in the future - regardless of potential risk to our citizens. Arab petro dollars have great purchasing power these days - so even airports and deepwater seaports are up for grabs by nations who have no positive feelings for us.

VO1GXG

08-12-2007, 09:17 PM

What about the US owning land in a foreign country ?

Personally i don't see Canada being a foreign country to the US , I also don't see the US as a foreign country to Canada .So leave us out of this! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

N8UZE

08-12-2007, 09:40 PM

Even with your amendments, there would still be lots of foreign business.

Lets take them one at a time.

Quote[/b] ]
1. Make an amendment to the Constitution that #NO LAND #in the US can be sold to #ANY #foreign country.

It would, in general, have little impact. #Most land is bought by individuals and corporations not countries. #Japan does not own the Honda plant. #The shareholders of Honda own it.

Quote[/b] ]
2. Make an amendment to the Constitution that #NO #foreign country can own or operate any business in the US.

Most corporations are not owned by governments but by people individually or as a group of shareholders. #Therefore once again it will have little impact.

Quote[/b] ]
3. Make an amendment to the Constitution that #the #US #CAN NOT #move any business/company to a foreign country.

Business in the US are privately owned. #The US does not move businesses to foreign countries. #Individuals and corporations do that.

Quote[/b] ]
4. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the #US #can not do any more than #10% #trade with any country.

Again the US doesn't trade. #Individuals and corporations do that.

I doubt that such an approach would have the effect that you want it to. #Most likely, we as individuals would be paying much higher prices and therefore would own less than we do. #This would then mean less production is required and guess where that leads? #Layoffs or big pay cuts. #Exactly what we have now.

kg6amw

08-13-2007, 02:42 PM

Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 12 2007,10:24)]It's hardly ever that you will see me start a political thread, but this one has me erked. If our leaders were smart in the early years, they would have made a staunch iron clad law or amendment to the Constitution that:

1. Make an amendment to the Constitution that #NO LAND #in the US can be sold to #ANY #foreign country.

2. Make an amendment to the Constitution that #NO #foreign country can own or operate any business in the US.

3. Make an amendment to the Constitution that #the #US #CAN NOT #move any business/company to a foreign country.

4. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the #US #can not do any more than #10% #trade with any country.

And I would have made it to where we couldn't deviate from the #Silver #and #Gold #money #certificates notes. (the old money)

Do you think we would be in much better shape now if all this took place? #Also remember that China gets all their, or should I say #'Our' #stuff made for free in the prisons there. #Their prisons are just factories....They don't pay the prisoners one red cent.
(orWhatEverYouCallTheCurrencyThere)

# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #
# # # # # # # # # # # # # Selling America to Communist China (http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=1174969)
You get the award for developing the perfect plan for triggering a depression in this country. While you intentions are good it’s too late, we are too well integrated into a worldwide economic system from which we cannot divorce.

N2RJ

08-13-2007, 03:12 PM

Quote[/b] (VO1GXG @ Aug. 12 2007,16:17)]What about the US owning land in a foreign country ?

Personally i don't see Canada being a foreign country to the US , I also don't see the US as a foreign country to Canada .So leave us out of this! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Like it or not, Canada is still a foreign country.

Passports are going to be required next year. Hope you got yours.

KD6NIG

08-13-2007, 03:18 PM

Keep in mind also that many American companies as well as citizens own land or property in other countries also.

I would expect if we ever implemented such a policy, may of those countries would do the same towards us.

kg4kww

08-13-2007, 04:38 PM

Steve, I like your thread, you are 100% correct.

n8yx

08-13-2007, 05:03 PM

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 12 2007,11:20)]5. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO CHRISTIANS SHALL EVER BE PERSECUTED.
Ahh...sorry...no.

Amend the Constitution such that no one may be persecuted due to his or her religious beliefs or leave it as-is.

The latter works fine. The whole 'separation of church and state' thingy, right?

Any other approach is discriminatory and blatantly UN-Constitutional.

KG4CGC

08-13-2007, 05:37 PM

Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Aug. 13 2007,13:03)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 12 2007,11:20)]5. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO CHRISTIANS SHALL EVER BE PERSECUTED.
Ahh...sorry...no.

Amend the Constitution such that no one may be persecuted due to his or her religious beliefs or leave it as-is.

The latter works fine. The whole 'separation of church and state' thingy, right?

Any other approach is discriminatory and blatantly UN-Constitutional.
Heh, you got me!

W0UZR

08-13-2007, 06:44 PM

hit back button when I should have hit edit.

Isn't this a WONDERful idea to make us not have a delete button. I wouldn't even think of having a site where a guy can't delete anything because I would want to have the least space used.

W0UZR

08-13-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote[/b] (kg6amw @ Aug. 13 2007,08:42)]Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 12 2007,10:24)]It's hardly ever that you will see me start a political thread, but this one has me erked. If our leaders were smart in the early years, they would have made a staunch iron clad law or amendment to the Constitution that:

1. Make an amendment to the Constitution that #NO LAND #in the US can be sold to #ANY #foreign country.

2. Make an amendment to the Constitution that #NO #foreign country can own or operate any business in the US.

3. Make an amendment to the Constitution that #the #US #CAN NOT #move any business/company to a foreign country.

4. Make an amendment to the Constitution that the #US #can not do any more than #10% #trade with any country.

And I would have made it to where we couldn't deviate from the #Silver #and #Gold #money #certificates notes. (the old money)

Do you think we would be in much better shape now if all this took place? #Also remember that China gets all their, or should I say #'Our' #stuff made for free in the prisons there. #Their prisons are just factories....They don't pay the prisoners one red cent.
(orWhatEverYouCallTheCurrencyThere)

# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #
# # # # # # # # # # # # # Selling America to Communist China (http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/global.php?id=1174969)
You get the award for developing the perfect plan for triggering a depression in this country. #While you intentions are good it’s too late, we are too well integrated into a worldwide economic system from which we cannot divorce.
I forgot to add something on my question. I should have said,

Quote[/b] ]Do you think we would be in much better shape now if all these were in the Constitution to begin with at the start of this country?

Of course, if we were to add all that stuff now, we would be asking for trouble.....

W0UZR

08-13-2007, 07:06 PM

Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Aug. 13 2007,11:03)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 12 2007,11:20)]5. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO CHRISTIANS SHALL EVER BE PERSECUTED.
Ahh...sorry...no.

Amend the Constitution such that no one may be persecuted due to his or her religious beliefs or leave it as-is.

The latter works fine. The whole 'separation of church and state' thingy, right?

Any other approach is discriminatory and blatantly UN-Constitutional.
BAAHAHAHAHA

Actually I'm glad there isn't that added to the Constitution. #Bible says if we (Christians) are persecuted count it as a blessing. #Because if we are being persecuted then that means that Christians are doing everything right, the way God wants it. #If we aren't being persecuted, then that means that we aren't doing everything right, or living the Christian walk.

But that is a subject for another thread.

KA5LQJ

08-13-2007, 08:15 PM

Quote[/b] ]k4kyv

Posted: Aug. 12 2007,06:14 #

------------------------------------------------------------------Not to worry. #Our government has taken adequate
countermeasures against the economic threat from communist countries. Our customs agents confiscate Cuban cigars, legally purchased in Canada, from elderly gentlemen as they cross the border on their return trip to USA.

Makes me feel safe about the future of our country.

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"Invention is the mother of necessity." #

You just had to bring up the A.R.R.L. National Officers and Section Managers, didn't you? # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Now....if you really want to get technical about it, this was never OUR country to begin with, it has always been the Native American's whom were here first. #Say what you will about the supposed Ice bridge across the Bering Straits and them walking over from Asia. #The fact remains they were here several thousand years before the white man came here, including Eric the Red.

Native Americans believe you cannot own Mother Earth or land, it belongs to ALL. #Ok, ok, you say, Well, what about the natives selling New York City for $24.oo worth of beads?.... #They are still laughing over that...dumb tourist!. #How have we paid them since? #Poluted the land, water and air? #Given them poor schools with no prospects of ever having a job, put them on welfare and wonder WHY they have drug, alcohol, and diabetes problems?

It was the FRENCH that started the practice of scalping to take their prizes back to France to show off their bravery and yet we STILL call Native American's savages. #We have dis-honored every treaty we have ever made with the native chiefs and gave them blankets riddled with small pox disease. #Our ancestors rode into villages, slaughtering old people, women and children, burning their teepee's and all the while the news media of the day called the Indian's, savages.

It is WE, my friends, whom are Illegal Aliens in this great country. #

It is never told in the history books that after the first Thanksgiving meal (lasting 2 days and the Natives brought food to the starving Pilgrims), the Pilgrims, fearing their neighbors, took up guns, axes, hatchets and knives and slaughtered the Natives, even hunting them down in the woods and chasing them to kill them. #Pretty nice way to re-pay good neighbors. #And we wonder WHY the Native American's don't trust white folks?. #

Most all of the treaties signed by U.S. Government agents contain the words, As long as the grass shall grow and the waters flow, in them...false promises, outright lies. #Native's today have to depend on casino's to give their members money. #Some have done well, some have not.

President Clinton went to the Pine Ridge & Rosebud Reservations, again PROMISING to do something about the sub-standard housing, poor education and rampant poverty and drug use to the native chiefs...can you say, photo op and MORE LIES,
boys and girls? #And yet, in the final hours of his Presidency, he pardon's a rich friend, who bilked MILLIONS out of their money and left an innocent, FBI made-up case, Native American activist, Leonard Peltier, in federal prison, at the insistance of the FBI! #Leonard essentially is a prisioner of war.

Yeah, what China is doing is wrong. #But, WAL-MART, the largest retailer in the U.S.A. still buys neary all their Low prices...every day merchandise from free, forced, Chinese prison labor from there.

Respectfully submitted,
73,
Don/KA5-LQJ

KA5LQJ

08-13-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote[/b] ]n8yx

Posted: Aug. 13 2007,05:03 #

----------------------------------------------------------------
Quote (KG4CGC @ Aug. 12 2007,11:20)
5. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO CHRISTIANS SHALL EVER BE PERSECUTED.

Ahh...sorry...no.

Amend the Constitution such that no one may be persecuted due to his or her religious beliefs or leave it as-is.

The latter works fine. The whole 'separation of church and state' thingy, right?

Any other approach is discriminatory and blatantly UN-Constitutional.

Edited by n8yx on Aug. 13 2007,05:06

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... life in the QRQ lane ... #

Give them time, my friend and that will amendment will be repealed..Part of the Skull & Bones, Liberalism, and the New World Order. #The U.S. Government is already arming local police forces with armored personal carriers, anti-tank weapons, hand-held RPG's and high volume machine guns...deer hunting? #NOPE, they're going to be used on us as terrorist Christians #Armegeddon? #Nah, all in your mind.

Besides the amendment is not followed anyway, Native Americans were and continue to be forced to give up THEIR religion and beliefs.

Respectfully submitted,
73,

Don/KA5-LQJ

kd7gwd

08-13-2007, 10:04 PM

Quote[/b] (KA5LQJ @ Aug. 12 2007,14:15)]Now....if you really want to get technical about it, this was never OUR country to begin with, it has always been the Native American's whom were here first. Say what you will about the supposed Ice bridge across the Bering Straits and them walking over from Asia. The fact remains they were here several thousand years before the white man came here, including Eric the Red.
It doesn't matter how long they were here first , they lost the land . Civilizations come and go .There are ruins all over the world that attest to that fact .

There is no doubt the current civilizations , with their great cities , religions , and inventions to make life easier . Could go at any time just like the Natives here lost their lands , and slowly each passing day , their culture .

I think its survival of the fittest in nature . Physically , and mentally . Some peoples are still the stone age to this day in some parts of the world .

Its not my fault , and I am not going to feel guilty about it . They could of built boats , traveled and learned things , and made weapons .

kf6rdn

08-13-2007, 11:39 PM

Quote[/b] (kd7gwd @ Aug. 13 2007,14:04)]...
There is no doubt the current civilizations , with their great cities , religions , and inventions to make life easier . Could go at any time just like the Natives here lost their lands , and slowly each passing day , their culture .
...
Yes, we could simply let another culture slowly overrun our culture in the name of profiteering in one way or another.
Cheep labor, cheep votes.

N0WVA

08-14-2007, 02:44 AM

#3 Should be modified. If another country wants to move overseas, then fine. But if they ever took government handouts or offers, then I would say they should NOT be able to sell back to the US.

W2ILP

08-14-2007, 03:26 AM

w0uzr

I could go along with all of those amendments to our Constitution....,BUT...Do you realize that if all of those amendments are enforced the United States would no longer be a colony of Israel?

w2ilp (I Like Peace)

KG4CGC

08-14-2007, 05:58 AM

Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 13 2007,15:06)]Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Aug. 13 2007,11:03)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 12 2007,11:20)]5. Make an amendment to the Constitution that NO CHRISTIANS SHALL EVER BE PERSECUTED.
Ahh...sorry...no.

Amend the Constitution such that no one may be persecuted due to his or her religious beliefs or leave it as-is.

The latter works fine. The whole 'separation of church and state' thingy, right?

Any other approach is discriminatory and blatantly UN-Constitutional.
BAAHAHAHAHA

Actually I'm glad there isn't that added to the Constitution. Bible says if we (Christians) are prosecuted count it as a blessing. Because if we are being prosecuted then that means that Christians are doing everything right, the way God wants it. If we aren't being prosecuted, then that means that we aren't doing everything right, or living the Christian walk.

But that is a subject for another thread.
Whether "persecuted" or "prosecuted", it's not a blessing nor does it mean you're doing everything right.
They tell you that so you don't leave the church and actually get a clue to what's really happening.

The reason I brought it up to begin with is because our current administration would have us believe that Our Nation was founded by Christians, for Christians and that freedom of religion means, freedom to choose your flavor of Christianity.

One thing to ponder, and I've mentioned this before, at one time we used to believe in the Greek Mythos.
What if we were each our own god? It would explain why we keep trying to create "God" IN OUR OWN IMAGE.

n6hcm

08-14-2007, 09:26 AM

Quote[/b] (KA5LQJ @ Aug. 13 2007,13:15)]Now....if you really want to get technical about it, this was never OUR country to begin with . . .
oh, come on ... we stole it fair and square!

W0UZR

08-15-2007, 03:27 AM

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 13 2007,23:58)]Whether "persecuted" or "prosecuted", it's not a blessing nor does it mean you're doing everything right.
They tell you that so you don't leave the church and actually get a clue to what's really happening.
Ok, I'll bite.

How do you know? I didn't know you went to church. You would have to be in one to know what they are scheming.

KG4CGC

08-15-2007, 07:23 AM

Don't assume I've never gone to church OM.
Church was the first form of government or should I say, religion was the first form of government.

"scheming" Convincing you to blindly believe without offering you evidence. Just a few pretty words and a lot of fear.
Now ask me something more specific. You should have already known the answer to you previous statement.

KG4CGC

08-16-2007, 07:22 AM

Here is the answer (http://celobox.googlepages.com/god.html)

wv6z

08-16-2007, 07:33 AM

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Aug. 12 2007,10:38)]Steve, I like your thread, you are 100% correct.
And you are qualified to say whether or not a post is correct how? Credentials in HiRez or, well, you get the idea.

aa3re

08-16-2007, 11:26 AM

For interesting reading, dig up a copy of the Mexican Constitution. If you are not a Mexican citizen you CANNOT own land in Mexico. Plus a whole host of items that if we employed here, the "undocumented workers"(sic) would be SCREAMING how unfair the US is.
China? OMG, all the money they are making off of us is going to build up their military. WHY do you think that would be. Certainly not because they feel threatend by any of their neighbors.
Stay tuned. China is a bigger threat to our soverinty than most people realize.

W0UZR

08-16-2007, 04:38 PM

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 16 2007,01:22)]Here is the answer (http://celobox.googlepages.com/god.html)
It would be a VERY good idea to ask God to forgive you of presenting that link. Cause if you don't, you will fall in the Hands of An Angry God. The Bible CLEARLY states that God said that He Will Not Be Mocked.

This is the second time you had an awful link directed at me. The first one was something about satanic worship.

DO NOT DO IT AGAIN

And DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF MY POSTS AGAIN

DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME............EVER!!

k6bbc

08-16-2007, 04:47 PM

Emotionally, I sort of agree with you. Unfortunately your ideas are sort of an alternate universe scenario as our economy is so vastly tired to others.

I would say this. The one change we needed to make after 911 was becoming energy independent. That was never even talked about by our nitwit president. In fact, we are more dependent on foreign energy today than ever before. If one wants to examine the sell-out of America, one needs look no further than 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

bbc

W0UZR

08-16-2007, 04:57 PM

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Aug. 16 2007,10:47)]Emotionally, I sort of agree with you. #Unfortunately your ideas are sort of an alternate universe scenario as our economy is so vastly tired to others.

I would say this. #The one change we needed to make after 911 was becoming energy independent. #That was never even talked about by our nitwit president. #In fact, we are more dependent on foreign energy today than ever before. #If one wants to examine the sell-out of America, one needs look no further than 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

bbc
Right

I realize that a couple of my so-called amedments are a little unrealistic, but look where we are now. All the major companies are over seas, can't farm our own oil. Well we could, but it would be around $15.00 a gallon. And almost everything we use now, including Food comes from China.

Something has to give, and I think it's going to be soon.

KG4CGC

08-16-2007, 04:58 PM

Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 16 2007,12:38)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 16 2007,01:22)]Here is the answer (http://celobox.googlepages.com/god.html)
It would be a VERY good idea to ask God to forgive you of presenting that link. Cause if you don't, you will fall in the Hands of An Angry God. The Bible CLEARLY states that God said that He Will Not Be Mocked.

This is the second time you had an awful link directed at me. The first one was something about satanic worship.

DO NOT DO IT AGAIN

And DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF MY POSTS AGAIN

DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME............EVER!!
You ARE delusional!
Absolutely delusional.
Yep, if we'ins agin ya, we must be devil worshipers.

You can't make a rational statement so you attack and on top of that you have no sense of humor.

I say you are the SATANIC one pretending to pious to the Nth degree! There ya go! A little back at ya. How's it feel?

k6bbc

08-16-2007, 05:09 PM

Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 16 2007,09:38)]The Bible CLEARLY states that God said that He Will Not Be Mocked.
Why do so many people believe God is such and ill-tempered SOB?

Well, I will tell you. These emotions and tantrums that seem to make up God’s nature and human traits – this is a projection of our worst attributes. I do not believe that a God would be so petty. The universe reserves that quality to mankind.

bbc

W0UZR

08-16-2007, 05:35 PM

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 16 2007,10:58)]Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 16 2007,12:38)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 16 2007,01:22)]Here is the answer (http://celobox.googlepages.com/god.html)
It would be a #VERY #good idea to ask God to forgive you of presenting that link. #Cause if you don't, you will fall in the Hands of An Angry God. #The Bible # CLEARLY #states that God said that #He #Will Not Be Mocked.

This is the second time you had an awful link directed at me. #The first one was something about satanic worship.

# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # DO NOT DO IT AGAIN

And # DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF MY POSTS AGAIN

# # #DO NOT HAVE # # # ANYTHING # # TO DO WITH ME............EVER!!
You ARE delusional!
Absolutely delusional.
Yep, if we'ins agin ya, we must be devil worshipers.

You can't make a rational statement so you attack and on top of that you have no sense of humor.

I say you are the SATANIC one pretending to pious to the Nth degree! There ya go! A little back at ya. How's it feel?
I know you meant that to be amusing, and since God doesn't exist to you, it doesn't matter to you and it's amusing.

But God DOES exist for me, and He is Holy and He IS NOT to be used for as comic. It is kind of thing Very Very insulting to the Lord and to Christians. Because He Is Holy. God Is NOT to be mocked. And this link is a mockery to God. But I realize it isn't a big deal to you though. You would have to be a Christian to know what kind of impact something like is. It's desecrating God to us, and very insulting. God isn't to be mocked and to be the butt of jokes. You will find out someday after you croak.

Your links to me are NOT funny. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but what you are doing with this stuff to me is like the Koran tossed on the floor and stepped on to the Moslems to them.

DON'T send me anymore links.......

k6bbc

08-16-2007, 05:59 PM

Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 16 2007,10:35)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 16 2007,10:58)]Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 16 2007,12:38)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 16 2007,01:22)]Here is the answer (http://celobox.googlepages.com/god.html)
It would be a VERY good idea to ask God to forgive you of presenting that link. Cause if you don't, you will fall in the Hands of An Angry God. The Bible CLEARLY states that God said that He Will Not Be Mocked.

This is the second time you had an awful link directed at me. The first one was something about satanic worship.

DO NOT DO IT AGAIN

And DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF MY POSTS AGAIN

DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME............EVER!!
You ARE delusional!
Absolutely delusional.
Yep, if we'ins agin ya, we must be devil worshipers.

You can't make a rational statement so you attack and on top of that you have no sense of humor.

I say you are the SATANIC one pretending to pious to the Nth degree! There ya go! A little back at ya. How's it feel?
I know you meant that to be amusing, and since God doesn't exist to you, it doesn't matter to you and it's amusing.

But God DOES exist for me, and He is Holy and He IS NOT to be used for as comic. It is kind of thing Very Very insulting to the Lord and to Christians. Because He Is Holy. God Is NOT to be mocked. And this link is a mockery to God. But I realize it isn't a big deal to you though. You would have to be a Christian to know what kind of impact something like is. It's desecrating God to us, and very insulting. God isn't to be mocked and to be the butt of jokes. You will find out someday after you croak.

Your links to me are NOT funny. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but what you are doing with this stuff to me is like the Koran tossed on the floor and stepped on to the Moslems to them.

DON'T send me anymore links.......
UZR - I'm really worried about your mental state. Calm down. Go rent a Three Stooges and have a laugh.

bbc

al2i

08-16-2007, 06:08 PM

I agree with UZR. Something bad will happen to the USA. It doesn't require a God: just a simple survey of how wrong-headed our response has been to those who would destroy us.

KG4CGC

08-17-2007, 04:56 AM

Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 16 2007,13:35)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 16 2007,10:58)]Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 16 2007,12:38)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 16 2007,01:22)]Here is the answer (http://celobox.googlepages.com/god.html)
It would be a VERY good idea to ask God to forgive you of presenting that link. Cause if you don't, you will fall in the Hands of An Angry God. The Bible CLEARLY states that God said that He Will Not Be Mocked.

This is the second time you had an awful link directed at me. The first one was something about satanic worship.

DO NOT DO IT AGAIN

And DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF MY POSTS AGAIN

DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME............EVER!!
You ARE delusional!
Absolutely delusional.
Yep, if we'ins agin ya, we must be devil worshipers.

You can't make a rational statement so you attack and on top of that you have no sense of humor.

I say you are the SATANIC one pretending to pious to the Nth degree! There ya go! A little back at ya. How's it feel?
I know you meant that to be amusing, and since God doesn't exist to you, it doesn't matter to you and it's amusing.

But God DOES exist for me, and He is Holy and He IS NOT to be used for as comic. It is kind of thing Very Very insulting to the Lord and to Christians. Because He Is Holy. God Is NOT to be mocked. And this link is a mockery to God. But I realize it isn't a big deal to you though. You would have to be a Christian to know what kind of impact something like is. It's desecrating God to us, and very insulting. God isn't to be mocked and to be the butt of jokes. You will find out someday after you croak.

Your links to me are NOT funny. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but what you are doing with this stuff to me is like the Koran tossed on the floor and stepped on to the Moslems to them.

DON'T send me anymore links.......
I didn't send YOU anything and you don't know what my beliefs are so please stop making assumptions about what I do or do not believe. I could be an ordained minister and you wouldn't know.

You don't know what I am so again, don't assume anything just because you don't like something I post.
Sorry if you thought my links were personally belittling to you.
I have a personal relationship with The Creator. She has a sense of humor. She also forgives you.

wv6z

08-17-2007, 05:03 AM

Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 15 2007,10:38)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Aug. 16 2007,01:22)]Here is the answer (http://celobox.googlepages.com/god.html)
It would be a #VERY #good idea to ask God to forgive you of presenting that link. #Cause if you don't, you will fall in the Hands of An Angry God. #The Bible # CLEARLY #states that God said that #He #Will Not Be Mocked.

This is the second time you had an awful link directed at me. #The first one was something about satanic worship.

# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # DO NOT DO IT AGAIN

And # DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF MY POSTS AGAIN

# # #DO NOT HAVE # # # ANYTHING # # TO DO WITH ME............EVER!!
Odd, the Christians I work with found the computer/God thing quite funny.

Posts like this are exactly why I posted this.... Link To Another Zed Thread (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=165327)

Get a grip folks...... #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Oh and one other tidbit, God must have a sense of humor....... He did afterall make amateur radio operators, right?

AE6IP

08-17-2007, 05:09 AM

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Aug. 16 2007,09:09)]Quote[/b] (w0uzr @ Aug. 16 2007,09:38)]The Bible CLEARLY states that God said that He Will Not Be Mocked.
Why do so many people believe God is such and ill-tempered SOB?

Well, I will tell you. These emotions and tantrums that seem to make up God’s nature and human traits – this is a projection of our worst attributes. I do not believe that a God would be so petty. The universe reserves that quality to mankind.

bbc
'cuz he sent bears down to tear up little children who had been making fun of some bald guy?

OT god had the worst case of PMS on record.

wv6z

08-17-2007, 05:15 AM

Mocking or making a mockery of has NOTHING to do with He, She, IT having a sense of humor or not. Now it would appear that the twisting of ones testimony is going to be fabricated into the private use and fulfillment of someone’s private agenda….. hmmmmm, I have that strange sense of déjà vu….. nah, nothing mystical, I am just on the Zed…..

kf6rdn

08-17-2007, 05:16 AM

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Aug. 16 2007,09:59)]UZR - I'm really worried about your mental state. Calm down. Go rent a Three Stooges and have a laugh.

bbc
I'm sure glad I am only drinking WATER!!