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We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
What does this NYT reporter have to hide???
http://newsbusters.org/node/14782/print
ad4mg
08-10-2007, 11:27 PM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 10 2007,19:26)]What does this NYT reporter have to hide???
http://newsbusters.org/node/14782/print
He has to hide from the smear tactics used at the ultra right wing newsbusters?
Just thinking out loud again.
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 10 2007,11:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Fox news is the most watched, most highly rated and the most balanced news program on cable or anywhere else.
K2WH (Fox Watcher)
AE6IP
08-10-2007, 11:56 PM
Actually, according to Nielsen, it's not the most watched, nor the most highly rated.
Since I have no idea what you're "balancing", I can't say whether it's the most balanced or not, but if you meant balanced presentation of the issues, that would be PBS's "NewsHour" program.
K0RGR
08-10-2007, 11:59 PM
Balanced means they get a right winger on each side of every issue.
n4sva
08-11-2007, 12:50 AM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Aug. 10 2007,10:56)]Actually, according to Nielsen, it's not the most watched, nor the most highly rated.
Since I have no idea what you're "balancing", I can't say whether it's the most balanced or not, but if you meant balanced presentation of the issues, that would be PBS's "NewsHour" program.
bzzzzzzzzzz....wrong answer
The Truth (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/q207ranker.pdf)
w7lpn
08-11-2007, 01:32 AM
Like Fox invented opinions leaning to one side...? HAR!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blues.gif
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 10 2007,19:30)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 10 2007,11:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Fox news is the most watched, most highly rated and the most balanced news program on cable or anywhere else.
K2WH (Fox Watcher)
Actually They Distort, We Deride. AND Billy Boy, this is unrefutable proof that they distort. Here's the smoking gun. Here's the story straight from the horses mouth.
Okay Billy Boy, enough reality for one year. We now return you to your scheduled kool-aid party.
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KI4ITV
08-11-2007, 01:41 AM
Apparenty, the plan is working for those in control.
We continue to focus on each other instead of the real problem.
They divide and we can't decide.
News @ eleven...
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W4DFW
08-11-2007, 03:08 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 09 2007,18:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Another left wingnut who does not know the difference between the news and opinion commentary. What nut on this planet does not know that Bill O'Reily and Shaun Hannity are Right Wing opinionists??
Someone please tell Dan Rather he was supposed to be reporting the news, not influencing an election.
n2ize
08-11-2007, 04:34 AM
Quote[/b] (n4sva @ Aug. 10 2007,17:50)]Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Aug. 10 2007,10:56)]Actually, according to Nielsen, it's not the most watched, nor the most highly rated.
Since I have no idea what you're "balancing", I can't say whether it's the most balanced or not, but if you meant balanced presentation of the issues, that would be PBS's "NewsHour" program.
bzzzzzzzzzz....wrong answer
The Truth (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/q207ranker.pdf)
Wrong. As far back as 2006 Fox News plummeted falling behind CNN and MSNBC.
Fox Gets pwned (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_07/b3971033.htm)
Meanwhile, even when Fox seems to hang high in the ratings it is ot the most listened to news source
The FOX Mirage (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2005)
wb6mmj
08-11-2007, 04:48 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 10 2007,15:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
"Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News "
Isn`t deregulation fun!
KG4CGC
08-11-2007, 08:15 AM
Quote[/b] (KI4ITV @ Aug. 10 2007,13:41)]Apparenty, the plan is working for those in control.
We continue to focus on each other instead of the real problem.
They divide and we can't decide.
News @ eleven...
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Exactly!
clicky unless you're skeerded! (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=72568738&MyToken=f89ca2fb-3c01-4caa-b784-dd3e5297c165)
ka5piu
08-11-2007, 08:20 AM
Hello.
over 80% of all Americans do not trust the media or the government.
What else is new?
w2amr
08-11-2007, 08:34 AM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 10 2007,21:34)]Quote[/b] (n4sva @ Aug. 10 2007,17:50)]Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Aug. 10 2007,10:56)]Actually, according to Nielsen, it's not the most watched, nor the most highly rated.
Since I have no idea what you're "balancing", I can't say whether it's the most balanced or not, but if you meant balanced presentation of the issues, that would be PBS's "NewsHour" program.
bzzzzzzzzzz....wrong answer
The Truth (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/q207ranker.pdf)
Wrong. As far back as 2006 Fox News plummeted falling behind CNN and MSNBC.
Fox Gets pwned (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_07/b3971033.htm)
Meanwhile, even when Fox seems to hang high in the ratings it is ot the most listened to news source
The FOX Mirage (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2005)
I heard fox's ratings fall off sharply after 9PM. This is when they put the people in the nursing homes to bed.
Quote[/b] (n4sva @ Aug. 10 2007,17:50)]Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Aug. 10 2007,10:56)]Actually, according to Nielsen, it's not the most watched, nor the most highly rated.
Since I have no idea what you're "balancing", I can't say whether it's the most balanced or not, but if you meant balanced presentation of the issues, that would be PBS's "NewsHour" program.
bzzzzzzzzzz....wrong answer
The Truth (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/q207ranker.pdf)
This sheet doesn't lie...
AE6IP has it wrong again!
n3ixq
08-11-2007, 10:34 AM
I'm sure they learned by watching the Clinton News Network or CNN.
They watched and perfected it. Like Talk Radio.... Where is Al Fraken ?
ad4mg
08-11-2007, 11:24 AM
Quote[/b] (n3ixq @ Aug. 11 2007,06:34)]I'm sure they learned by watching the Clinton News Network or CNN.
They watched and perfected it. Like Talk Radio.... Where is Al Fraken ?
Oh, the stereotyping. Where is the originality, the creativity? Why is the uber right always limited to repeating the words of others?
You people must learn to think on your own. I shall resurrect my signature to offer as an example.
I've added the "Party of Hate" campaign slogans, the "Clinton did it" rants, and the first mention of the two party political crime syndicate, and all you offer is the Clinton News Network, first coined, what, 12 years ago?
You must remove this curse upon your ability to think, Comrade. Begin by recognizing the problem. It is the first step.
Where is Osama bin Laden?
Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Aug. 10 2007,23:08)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 09 2007,18:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Another left wingnut who does not know the difference between the news and opinion commentary. What nut on this planet does not know that Bill O'Reily and Shaun Hannity are Right Wing opinionists??
Someone please tell Dan Rather he was supposed to be reporting the news, not influencing an election.
It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. This was NOT about BOR. It was about their supposed news division. But don't let me stop you from proclaiming your ignorance from the highest mountain. Speaking of influencing an election, is that what Fox Prez Ailes is trying to do with his tied-at-the-hip buddy Rudy? Ailes is turning Fox into the Rudy Opinion Channel.
ad4mg
08-11-2007, 12:00 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,07:58)]Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Aug. 10 2007,23:08)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 09 2007,18:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Another left wingnut who does not know the difference between the news and opinion commentary. What nut on this planet does not know that Bill O'Reily and Shaun Hannity are Right Wing opinionists??
Someone please tell Dan Rather he was supposed to be reporting the news, not influencing an election.
It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. This was NOT about BOR. It was about their supposed news division. But don't let me stop you from proclaiming your ignorance from the highest mountain.
Forgive them, John. They have the attention span of a 6 week old puppy. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 11 2007,08:00)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,07:58)]Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Aug. 10 2007,23:08)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 09 2007,18:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Another left wingnut who does not know the difference between the news and opinion commentary. What nut on this planet does not know that Bill O'Reily and Shaun Hannity are Right Wing opinionists??
Someone please tell Dan Rather he was supposed to be reporting the news, not influencing an election.
It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. This was NOT about BOR. It was about their supposed news division. But don't let me stop you from proclaiming your ignorance from the highest mountain.
Forgive them, John. They have the attention span of a 6 week old puppy. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
My cat has a longer attention span and that's saying a lot. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
w2amr
08-11-2007, 12:07 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,05:02)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 11 2007,08:00)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,07:58)]Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Aug. 10 2007,23:08)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 09 2007,18:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Another left wingnut who does not know the difference between the news and opinion commentary. #What nut on this planet does not know that Bill O'Reily and Shaun Hannity are Right Wing opinionists??
Someone please tell Dan Rather he was supposed to be reporting the news, not influencing an election.
It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. #This was NOT about BOR. #It was about their supposed news division. #But don't let me stop you from proclaiming your ignorance from the highest mountain.
Forgive them, John. #They have the attention span of a 6 week old puppy. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
My cat has a longer attention span and that's saying a lot. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Could be a loss of con centration.
w2amr
08-11-2007, 12:17 PM
Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Aug. 10 2007,20:08)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 09 2007,18:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Another left wingnut who does not know the difference between the news and opinion commentary. #What nut on this planet does not know that Bill O'Reily and Shaun Hannity are Right Wing opinionists??
Someone please tell Dan Rather he was supposed to be reporting the news, not influencing an election.
Billo and Hannity claim to be legitimate #journalist, and the people who listen to them claim they are entertainers
who give opinion commentary. Boy are you people con #fused. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 11 2007,08:17)]Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Aug. 10 2007,20:08)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 09 2007,18:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Another left wingnut who does not know the difference between the news and opinion commentary. What nut on this planet does not know that Bill O'Reily and Shaun Hannity are Right Wing opinionists??
Someone please tell Dan Rather he was supposed to be reporting the news, not influencing an election.
Billo and Hannity claim to be legitimate journalist, and the people who listen to them claim they are entertainers
who give opinion commentary. Boy are you people con fused. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
It is painful to see Kon Kon-tortionists Koming to Kover Fox's *ss.
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 11 2007,08:07)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,05:02)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 11 2007,08:00)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,07:58)]Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Aug. 10 2007,23:08)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 09 2007,18:33)]We weren't so much a news organization "...we were a proponent of a point of view"
Quote[/b] ]"As Rupert Murdoch's 'war on journalism' hits new lows, droves of disgruntled employees are confessing their many misdeeds, brought upon by the systematic oppression they faced at FOX News. Watch how FOX executives dictate their bias by forcing reporters to follow memos that predetermine "what they could say and how they could say it."
Rupert Murdoch has decided that the best approach to journalism is to parade opinions dressed-up as News. The reason is simple: No one can disprove an opinion, and therefore, credibility is easier to maintain. Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News Media. That's right, Corporate News entities can tell lies and distort the news if they so choose, and it's all perfectly legal.
FOX - They Distort, We Deride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3kI8LNTqNo)
Another left wingnut who does not know the difference between the news and opinion commentary. What nut on this planet does not know that Bill O'Reily and Shaun Hannity are Right Wing opinionists??
Someone please tell Dan Rather he was supposed to be reporting the news, not influencing an election.
It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. This was NOT about BOR. It was about their supposed news division. But don't let me stop you from proclaiming your ignorance from the highest mountain.
Forgive them, John. They have the attention span of a 6 week old puppy. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
My cat has a longer attention span and that's saying a lot. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Could be a loss of con centration.
More likely Kon Kontorting.
KA8DKT
08-11-2007, 01:10 PM
Quote[/b] (n4sva @ Aug. 10 2007,20:50)]Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Aug. 10 2007,10:56)]Actually, according to Nielsen, it's not the most watched, nor the most highly rated.
Since I have no idea what you're "balancing", I can't say whether it's the most balanced or not, but if you meant balanced presentation of the issues, that would be PBS's "NewsHour" program.
bzzzzzzzzzz....wrong answer
The Truth (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/q207ranker.pdf)
This, for some odd reason, compares Fox only to cable news organizations. #I don't see ABC, NBC, CBS, or PBS (note PBS is not usually rated by the ratings services as they are not a commercial network) anywhere in this ratings list.
It is true that many people (perhaps in this case, "sheeple") will watch the program that tells them what they like to hear, rather than one that presents real information.
This only exemplifies the great work that the Rove Machine has done in dividing this country (why do they hate America?).
Instead of a cooperative effort, the major parties are now a lot like baseball or football teams. #Followers of each party cheer whenever one makes a gain over the other and deride the other "team" whenever they score a point. #They never concede when the "other team" makes a valid observation or promotes a good idea. #All concepts and ideas from the other team are wrong.
The whole idea of combining the best of two (or more) viewpoints to get a workable solution for all is all but totally gone. #Sadly, is seems most people lack the thought process or capability to discern this.
Sad, too, is the result of this. #A country that is moving toward an autocracy because the votors are rooting for their "teams" rather than insisting that the Constitution be adhered to, as in years past. #A citizenry that is losing their freedoms and rights to a government that apparently feels that its power is more important than standing for its founding and guiding document and principles. #A government that is making a real effort to operate in secrecy rather than allowing the citizenry to see the process in the open. #
The great America that we knew many years ago is all but lost. #It is quickly becoming a country like many others in recent history, Germany and Italy in the late '30s and early '40s, #Russia since Stalin, #Cuba since Castro, and North Korea today. #In all cases, the ruling Party has gained complete control over the lives of the citizens. #Elections are proforma, there is no redress for wrongs, news never discusses the governments mistakes. #In the case of Germany, a few saw it coming in the early '30s, but they were either silenced by the government or overwhelmed by the government's propganda machine that told only the administration's point of view.
-gary
Quote[/b] (KA8DKT @ Aug. 11 2007,09:10)]...The great America that we knew many years ago is all but lost. It is quickly becoming a country like many others in recent history, Germany and Italy in the late '30s and early '40s, Russia since Stalin, Cuba since Castro, and North Korea today. In all cases, the ruling Party has gained complete control over the lives of the citizens. Elections are proforma, there is no redress for wrongs, news never discusses the governments mistakes. In the case of Germany, a few saw it coming in the early '30s, but they were either silenced by the government or overwhelmed by the government's propganda machine that told only the administration's point of view.
-gary
Excellent post. It captures the real problem we're facing. Heck, if you're not happy with the status quo, at least make them work for your vote. Does it count? Looking at the last two major elections, probably not. I think the wizard can't hide behind that curtain anymore now that the real process of filling the political office has been exposed. The voters had nothing to do with it and it has stood for over 6 years.
All the maneuvering of the last decade can not disguise that fact.
Still, as Americans, we all must do what we can, or we will become less American until it is nothing more than a meaningless word.
KA8DKT
08-11-2007, 05:51 PM
Here is one thing anyone can do:
Well in advance of the elections, request and obtain an absentee ballot.
Vote in ink on the absentee ballot. It is paper and must be kept for recounts.
Ask for, no, demand a paper ballot if you encounter an electronic voting machine.
Be honest if you encounter an exit pollster.
With only a very few minor isolated exceptions, the last three elections are the only ones in American history (since exit polls have been taken) that the final vote tally disagreed substantially with the exit polls. In one of those elections, the president of the company that made electronic voting machines promised to "deliver" (his word) the election to one candidate. That state was one of those where the vote count disagreed substantially with the exit polls. When presented with this, the winning party suggested that exit polls should be eliminated.
I don't care who you vote for in an election. (Well, I do, but in a different context.) But wouldn't you rather be certain that the vote accurately reflects the actual will of the voters? Wouldn't you rather be sure that your vote is accurately counted? That is respect for you the voter. That is our democracy.
I think that anyone who attempts to cheat the vote, manipulate the vote in any way that would change any voter's ballot entries, intentionally miscounts the actual votes, or otherwise subverts the voting process should be tried for treason, and if found guilty, punished accordingly. Subverting the vote truly is treason as it strikes at the very foundation of our democratic republic.
-gary
KB1KIX
08-11-2007, 06:11 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,07:58)]It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. This was NOT about BOR. It was about their supposed news division.
It was?
I clicked on the link, watched the video.
I saw a couple of minutes of O'Reilly. Which isn't in their news programming.
Some Hannity in there - again, not news programming.
Little digging on Geraldo - which happens to be one of the few lefties working there.
I heard a lot of disgruntled ex employees ashamed or afraid to show their face. Seemed like a whole lot of anonymous angst there.
Cohen - please, he's a pinko commie.
*****
Bottom line - Fox is changing the way discussion is handled. Because there is discussion on topics that the big 3 letter networks refused to handle because it didn't fit in with their biased ideology.
Fox, being towards the right, no doubt - has changed that.
The others just don't like the competition at their own game.
Jonathan
Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 11 2007,14:11)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,07:58)]It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. This was NOT about BOR. It was about their supposed news division.
It was?
I clicked on the link, watched the video.
I saw a couple of minutes of O'Reilly. Which isn't in their news programming.
Some Hannity in there - again, not news programming.
Little digging on Geraldo - which happens to be one of the few lefties working there.
I heard a lot of disgruntled ex employees ashamed or afraid to show their face. Seemed like a whole lot of anonymous angst there.
Cohen - please, he's a pinko commie.
*****
Bottom line - Fox is changing the way discussion is handled. Because there is discussion on topics that the big 3 letter networks refused to handle because it didn't fit in with their biased ideology.
Fox, being towards the right, no doubt - has changed that.
The others just don't like the competition at their own game.
Jonathan
Hey Jonathon, you could NOT have clicked on the link that I provided. There ARE names. Aside from the two people who wish to remain anonymous, there are:
LARRY JOHNSON
FRANK O'DONNELL
JON DU PRE
CLARA FRENK
DAVE KORB
JEFF COHEN
All who worked for Fox. So, if you watched that vid, how did you miss this? I see you are still riding that manure spreader. Now why would you continue to defend the chief propaganda organ of the neocon agenda, Mr. Middle-of-da-Road?? Oh, pardon me. Unlike someone who is really Independent, you can't have it both ways.
Oddly you noticed Cohen. Throwing him under the bus? Because you disagree with his politics? Or because he's Jewish? Whatever. He still worked for Fox.
AND before you do the usual ritual fascist shooting of the messenger, I have posted on Democrat idiocy too. Neither are blameless and both deserve the contempt of America.
But Fox is NOT a news organization.
n2ize
08-11-2007, 06:39 PM
Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 11 2007,11:11)]
Quote[/b] ]
Little digging on Geraldo - which happens to be one of the few lefties working there.
If Geraldo is a leftie I'd hate to know what your idea of a rightie is.
While each of these commentators is "officially" not considered "news" per se by FOX the fact remains is that their resources are used by FOX to comprise an aggregate mix of what FOX often calls "news". In the video numerous FOX employee's and ex-employee's were trying to point out that what FOX does consider "news" is anything but news. It would not pass the muster of even the most lenient academic qualifications for journalism.
Why is this important ? In and of itself it isn't. Where it does gain importance is in the reality that despite its lack of quality and standards many Americans base important decisions on what FOX (and other networks) pass on to them as "news". Now, in the immediate that might be good news for conservatives. The more people making decisions based on a biased conservative news source shaped by commentary by O'Reilly, Hannity and others the more likely they are to vote and do things favored by conservatives. In the long term it could prove bad as policies and leadership roles change as well as it it turns out the conservative agenda takes us down the wrong road.
Quote[/b] ]
I heard a lot of disgruntled ex employees ashamed or afraid to show their face. #Seemed like a whole lot of anonymous angst there.
You might think twice about criticizing your employer. Particularly if the price to pay may be your livlihood.
Quote[/b] ]
Bottom line - Fox is changing the way discussion is handled. #Because there is discussion on topics that the big 3 letter networks refused to handle because it didn't fit in with their biased ideology.
Indeed they are. By inviting guest with opposing points of view and then telling them to "SHUT UP". I could change the way discussion is handled on this forum too. All I would need to do is write "SHUT UP" in big letters everytime anyone disagrees with me.
Quote[/b] ]
The others just don't like the competition at their own game.
And if we are really intelligent people with brains we should all be opposed to journalism that is anything but journalism.
KB1KIX
08-11-2007, 06:50 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,14:34)]Oddly you noticed Cohen. Throwing him under the bus? Because you disagree with his politics? Or because he's Jewish? Whatever. He still worked for Fox.
You know....
This is why libs just don't get any respect.
You use allegations to the same level that you despise from Fox.
Somehow, I'm not surprised.
Jonathan
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 11 2007,11:39)]And if we are really intelligent people with brains we should all be opposed to journalism that is anything but journalism.
You're delusional again. Unbiased journalism or reporting has NEVER existed.
Go back to the drawing board!
The problem with the leftist continual posts about Fox News is that it does not follow their agenda -- plain and simple.
w2amr
08-11-2007, 07:06 PM
Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 11 2007,11:50)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 11 2007,11:39)]And if we are really intelligent people with brains we should all be opposed to journalism that is anything but journalism.
You're delusional again. #Unbiased journalism or reporting has NEVER existed.
Go back to the drawing board!
The problem with the leftist continual posts about Fox News is that it does not follow their agenda -- plain and simple.
What about the bird brains who follow Billo's agenda?
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
w2amr
08-11-2007, 07:40 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 11 2007,11:39)]
Quote[/b] ]
Little digging on Geraldo - which happens to be one of the few lefties working there.
If Geraldo is a leftie I'd hate to know what your idea of a rightie is.
Geraldo, Just like Dennis Miller , became a toady for fox noise when his career when down the toilet.
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 11 2007,12:06)]Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 11 2007,11:50)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 11 2007,11:39)]And if we are really intelligent people with brains we should all be opposed to journalism that is anything but journalism.
You're delusional again. Unbiased journalism or reporting has NEVER existed.
Go back to the drawing board!
The problem with the leftist continual posts about Fox News is that it does not follow their agenda -- plain and simple.
What about the bird brains who follow Billo's agenda?
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Yep, Bill O'Reilly's has an agenda -- exposing liberal bias and countering the secular-progressives. If you do not like his logical exposure, don't watch.
The facts are thus: Many folks watch O'Reilly because they WANT to watch. It's their CHOICE to watch, and CHOICE is a good thing.
A small prayer:
Thank you, God, for supplying CHOICES in news and events coverage and the many varied opinions supplied by all sides. Amen.
n2ize
08-11-2007, 08:14 PM
Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 11 2007,11:50)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 11 2007,11:39)]And if we are really intelligent people with brains we should all be opposed to journalism that is anything but journalism.
You're delusional again. #Unbiased journalism or reporting has NEVER existed.
Go back to the drawing board!
The problem with the leftist continual posts about Fox News is that it does not follow their agenda -- plain and simple.
Quote[/b] ]
You're delusional again.
That alone proves my point. Perhaps you can get a spot on FOX as a commentator. Only Bill O'Reilly still has you beat. "Shut Up" comes across better than "delusional".
Quote[/b] ]
The problem with the leftist continual posts about Fox News is that it does not follow their agenda -- plain and simple.
The problem with MOST mainstream media is that it falls short of quality journalism. The only reason SOME conservatives are contented is because at the moment it tells them what they want to hear.
k0ews
08-11-2007, 09:20 PM
Quote[/b] ]"Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News "
Isn`t deregulation fun!
You're referring to the repeal of the Fairness doctrine? That was done in by the Supreme Court and the FCC. Congress tried to codify it twice since 1986, but both times it was vetoed.
The fairness doctrine was put in place during the Red scare in the late 40s. It was stupid then as it is stupid now. If the Conservatives want a network they like, I say, fine. If the Liberals want one, I say, fine. Let the market sort it out. All of the "news" organizations are privately held entities anyway. Truly, about the only non-partisan network on TV is probably C-SPAN.
N1LAF
08-11-2007, 09:31 PM
All what that was is Liberal sour grapes. The news media plays this game to maximize profits, because the news media is a business, how about that.
The ONLY point that was somewhat interesting was Bill O saying he said 'shut up' once in 6 years, then the montage. That was entertaining. But, at times, you just have to say 'shut up' when a lib uses more than its fair share of talk time.
ad4mg
08-11-2007, 09:43 PM
Quote[/b] (k0ews @ Aug. 11 2007,17:20)]Quote[/b] ]"Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News "
Isn`t deregulation fun!
You're referring to the repeal of the Fairness doctrine? That was done in by the Supreme Court and the FCC. Congress tried to codify it twice since 1986, but both times it was vetoed.
The fairness doctrine was put in place during the Red scare in the late 40s. It was stupid then as it is stupid now. If the Conservatives want a network they like, I say, fine. If the Liberals want one, I say, fine. Let the market sort it out. All of the "news" organizations are privately held entities anyway. Truly, about the only non-partisan network on TV is probably C-SPAN.
I tend to agree, let them duke it out for listeners (and viewers). I do, however, think we need to seriously revisit the limits (or lack thereof) of ownership of media broadcast facilities by so few entities.
k0ews
08-11-2007, 10:04 PM
Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 11 2007,16:43)]Quote[/b] (k0ews @ Aug. 11 2007,17:20)]Quote[/b] ]"Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News "
Isn`t deregulation fun!
You're referring to the repeal of the Fairness doctrine? That was done in by the Supreme Court and the FCC. Congress tried to codify it twice since 1986, but both times it was vetoed.
The fairness doctrine was put in place during the Red scare in the late 40s. It was stupid then as it is stupid now. If the Conservatives want a network they like, I say, fine. If the Liberals want one, I say, fine. Let the market sort it out. All of the "news" organizations are privately held entities anyway. Truly, about the only non-partisan network on TV is probably C-SPAN.
I tend to agree, let them duke it out for listeners (and viewers). I do, however, think we need to seriously revisit the limits (or lack thereof) of ownership of media broadcast facilities by so few entities.
I agree with you on ownership of the media. I think that could apply to many different areas. Funny how 100 years ago, we were getting rid of monopolies, and now through corporate mergers, they are coming back.
Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 11 2007,10:11)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,07:58)]It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. #This was NOT about BOR. #It was about their supposed news division.
It was?
I clicked on the link, watched the video.
I saw a couple of minutes of O'Reilly. #Which isn't in their news programming.
Some Hannity in there - again, not news programming.
Little digging on Geraldo - which happens to be one of the few lefties working there.
I heard a lot of disgruntled ex employees ashamed or afraid to show their face. #Seemed like a whole lot of anonymous angst there.
Cohen - please, he's a pinko commie.
*****
Bottom line - Fox is changing the way discussion is handled. #Because there is discussion on topics that the big 3 letter networks refused to handle because it didn't fit in with their biased ideology.
Fox, being towards the right, no doubt - has changed that.
The others just don't like the competition at their own game.
Jonathan
BS.
Their "commentary" is seriously slanted.
Also, anyone with a brain can see Brit Hume is completely biased in his reporting.
I quess that leaves you out...
Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,13:31)]All what that was is Liberal sour grapes. #The news media plays this game to maximize profits, because the news media is a business, how about that.
The ONLY point that was somewhat interesting was Bill O saying he said 'shut up' once in 6 years, then the montage. #That was entertaining. #But, at times, you just have to say 'shut up' when a lib uses more than its fair share of talk time.
You're delusional about O'Reilly. He tells people to "shut up" when they are getting his goat.
That piece of crap lies on a daily basis and then has the gall to lie about it the very next day and guys like you lap it up.
W4DFW
08-12-2007, 01:05 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 10 2007,07:58)]It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. This was NOT about BOR. It was about their supposed news division.
Oh I clicked on the link, all right!! I was expecting something good right out'a the box about how biased Fox NEWS was. Instead, I had to listen to a few minutes of Bill O'Reily and Hannity and concluded that the "opinion" piece I was listening to was about as credible as Michael Moore.
You see, you have to GRAB the attention of your audience within the first minute, or you have lost them. Trying to show Fox News is biased requires a piece of News BY THE NEWS TEAM, right out'a the box, that shows UP FRONT what you are trying to say.
Poorly done was this internet video. I'm sure Dan Rather is not proud.
Alas, the stupidity from the left continues it unabated march to oblivion.
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 11 2007,13:14)]The only reason SOME [MOST] conservatives are contented is because at the moment it tells them what they want to hear.
Yes, it does, and Fox News is EXTREMELY POPULAR. There's no denying that.
And it gets our liberal loons in an uproar... there's no denying that either.
Good day.
N1LAF
08-12-2007, 02:16 AM
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Aug. 11 2007,16:57)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,13:31)]All what that was is Liberal sour grapes. The news media plays this game to maximize profits, because the news media is a business, how about that.
The ONLY point that was somewhat interesting was Bill O saying he said 'shut up' once in 6 years, then the montage. That was entertaining. But, at times, you just have to say 'shut up' when a lib uses more than its fair share of talk time.
You're delusional about O'Reilly. He tells people to "shut up" when they are getting his goat.
That piece of crap lies on a daily basis and then has the gall to lie about it the very next day and guys like you lap it up.
Dave, .. Delusional? I don't know where you are coming from....
If you watch the video, you see BillO say he said 'shut up' once in six years, then a montage of him saying 'shut up', which contradicts his six year statement. The montage was entertaining.
So, I think the 'delusional' remark was from a misunderstanding, unless you believe he hasn't said 'shut up' more than once in six years.
AE6IP
08-12-2007, 02:35 AM
Fox is just the latest in a long decline of broadcast 'news' that can be traced to ABC putting Roone Arlidge in charge of ABC's news division.
Prior to that the networks ran their news divisions as prestige organizations meant to compete with the best of news paper reporting and journalism.
After that news 'media' became just another entertainment industry.
My condolence to any of you not old enough to remember "Uncle Walter", the "most trusted man in America," or Chet and David, live from New York and Washington.
Those news organizations had their biases, but they were proud of keeping reporting separate from journalism and both distinct from sponsor influence. When Cronkite handed the desk over to Severaid for his opinion piece, you knew it was exactly that.
Now, you watch the "news" and half of it's canned material provided by sponsors as "news" about their products, half of what's left is the channel puffing it's other presentations, and the "hard" news is all sensationalism. (If it bleeds, it leads.)
There are rare exceptions. Peter Jennings tried hard to stem the tide at ABC, for instance, and the PBS programs News Hour and Frontline are both still excellent, but the networks are all revenue driven, and Fox is the worst of the bad lot.
My condolences to anyone who thinks that anything of Fox news is 'reportage'.
N1LAF
08-12-2007, 02:39 AM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 10 2007,21:34)]Quote[/b] (n4sva @ Aug. 10 2007,17:50)]Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Aug. 10 2007,10:56)]Actually, according to Nielsen, it's not the most watched, nor the most highly rated.
Since I have no idea what you're "balancing", I can't say whether it's the most balanced or not, but if you meant balanced presentation of the issues, that would be PBS's "NewsHour" program.
bzzzzzzzzzz....wrong answer
The Truth (http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/q207ranker.pdf)
Wrong. As far back as 2006 Fox News plummeted falling behind CNN and MSNBC.
Fox Gets pwned (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_07/b3971033.htm)
Meanwhile, even when Fox seems to hang high in the ratings it is ot the most listened to news source
The FOX Mirage (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2005)
Hey John (N2IZE)... SHUT UP!!! (just kidding)
I checked your links, and they are 2 to 3 years old. Here are more current ratings...
Fox News Dominates July(2007) News Ratings (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6464842.html)
Quote[/b] ]Fox News Channel dominated the all-news ratings race in July, while MSNBC posted the best growth in the category and narrowed the gap on CNN.
Fox News averaged a 1.2 primetime rating in July, down 14% from the same month last year. CNN averaged a 0.6, down 25% from 0.8, and MSNBC posted a 0.5 rating, up 67% from July 2006.
CNBC’s primetime ratings were flat, with a 0.1 primetime average. CNN Headline News posted a 0.4 rating, up 33% from the 0.3 it averaged in July 2006.
Fox News accounted for 13 of the top 15 programs on cable news in July and 11 out of the top 12 in the adults 25-54 demo that advertisers target on all-news networks.
The O’Reilly Factor was the top cable news program, averaging 1.9 million viewers. Also in the top five: Fox’s Hannity & Colmes (1.4 million viewers); The Fox Report with Shepard Smith (1.3 million); Special Report with Brit Hume (1.19 million); and On the Record with Greta Van Susteren (1.16 million).
But, you libs need to relax.. after all, you still have CNN/MSNBC/NPR/ABC/CBS/NBC news outlet. Conservatives are happy to have one news network that doesn't insult us.
Fox does have Bill-O(crazy), Hannity(conservative) & Colmes(liberal), and Greta (far from conservative)
Remember
CNN has Larry King, and did have Crossfire. (don't watch them anymore)
and
MSNBC has Chris Matthews(lib), (the ranting)Keith Olbermann, and Tucker Carlson(conservative)
ABC/CBS/NBC - Who listens to them anymore? Sorry... no comments
Do you really think other than FOX is fair and balanced? Right....
k0ews
08-12-2007, 02:46 AM
Interesting point, Marty, but I don't think we can blame Roone Arledge for all of those sins. Actually, he's the one who brought Peter Jennings back from nowhere to an anchor position. When Arledge got to ABC, they were trying Barbara Walters and Harry Reasoner with the newscast. Arledge is responsible for 20/20, World News Tonight, America Held Hostage (later called Nightline.) He also got David Brinkley on board and honestly, after Uncle Walter retired in 81, I think ABC became the best broadcast news in the biz.
I think this goes back to CNN, and then the advent of 24 hour cable services. Fox News, CNN, MSNBC are all in the same genre, the cable news genre. It is a big mix of commentary and some hard news in the form of usually an hour program and top of the hour updates. Anything along those lines from what I've seen is OK. Its the other stuff that is definitely slanted one way or the other. Every network has them too. NONE of them are innocent. I love it when MSNBC slams Fox for being biased. MSNBC is every bit as biased in their shows.
Truth be told, the best source for news out there is probably Yahoo news service, Google news, and any of the webpages of the news organizations. They give you the top stories briefly and usually they are all about the same. Personally, I prefer MSNBC's webpage to the other services.
AE6IP
08-12-2007, 04:52 AM
True. I'm being harsh on Arlidge. He got his 'infotainment' marching orders from his corporate masters and did what he could to salvage news out of the mess.
I guess it would be more accurate to say that it tracks back to the marching orders Arlidge was given when he was made head of the ABC news division.
w2amr
08-12-2007, 09:21 AM
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Aug. 11 2007,16:57)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,13:31)]All what that was is Liberal sour grapes. #The news media plays this game to maximize profits, because the news media is a business, how about that.
The ONLY point that was somewhat interesting was Bill O saying he said 'shut up' once in 6 years, then the montage. #That was entertaining. #But, at times, you just have to say 'shut up' when a lib uses more than its fair share of talk time.
You're delusional about O'Reilly. He tells people to "shut up" when they are getting his goat.
That piece of crap lies on a daily basis and then has the gall to lie about it the very next day and guys like you lap it up.
The logical next step. http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/WH-OReilly.jpg
n2ize
08-12-2007, 10:52 AM
Quote[/b] ]
But, you libs need to relax.. after all, you still have CNN/MSNBC/NPR/ABC/CBS/NBC news outlet. #Conservatives are happy to have one news network that doesn't insult us.
Those networks are NOT liberal at all. NPR is at best middle of the road. #The rest CNN, ABC, MSNBC are relatively conservative outlets. What amazes me is that the concept of "liberal" versus "conservative" has become so skewed in the minds of SOME conservatives. What they call "conservative" is in reality extreme far right conservatism and what they call liberal is simply just moderate conservatism.
In the old days what we considered moderately liberal would probably be considered as super radical uber left wing extremism of the highest order by some of todays #conservatives.
Good ol' Bob Grant #would probably be considered liberal these days.
Main stream LIB media, being, well, the main stream LIB media.
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/08/kos_kounting.html)
ad4mg
08-12-2007, 11:44 AM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 12 2007,07:39)]Main stream LIB media, being, well, the main stream LIB media.
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/08/kos_kounting.html)
Sigh. What's that smell?
N1LAF
08-12-2007, 12:06 PM
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 12 2007,02:21)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Aug. 11 2007,16:57)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,13:31)]All what that was is Liberal sour grapes. The news media plays this game to maximize profits, because the news media is a business, how about that.
The ONLY point that was somewhat interesting was Bill O saying he said 'shut up' once in 6 years, then the montage. That was entertaining. But, at times, you just have to say 'shut up' when a lib uses more than its fair share of talk time.
You're delusional about O'Reilly. He tells people to "shut up" when they are getting his goat.
That piece of crap lies on a daily basis and then has the gall to lie about it the very next day and guys like you lap it up.
The logical next step.
George, please step back to my last post and reread. I am agreeing with you about Bill-O, the 'montage' I spoke about was all his 'shut up' comments being played back, much more than once in six years. The guy is a loose cannon.
N1LAF
08-12-2007, 12:08 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 12 2007,03:52)]
Quote[/b] ]
But, you libs need to relax.. after all, you still have CNN/MSNBC/NPR/ABC/CBS/NBC news outlet. Conservatives are happy to have one news network that doesn't insult us.
Those networks are NOT liberal at all. NPR is at best middle of the road. The rest CNN, ABC, MSNBC are relatively conservative outlets. What amazes me is that the concept of "liberal" versus "conservative" has become so skewed in the minds of SOME conservatives. What they call "conservative" is in reality extreme far right conservatism and what they call liberal is simply just moderate conservatism.
In the old days what we considered moderately liberal would probably be considered as super radical uber left wing extremism of the highest order by some of todays conservatives.
Good ol' Bob Grant would probably be considered liberal these days.
John, not to be disrespectful, but to say that CNN/ABC/MSNBC are relatively conservative outlets, only shows how far to the left you really are.
w2amr
08-12-2007, 12:14 PM
Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 12 2007,04:44)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 12 2007,07:39)]Main stream LIB media, being, well, the main stream LIB media.
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/08/kos_kounting.html)
Sigh. #What's that smell?
It had to happen.......
link (http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ/Ya&sdn=4wheeldrive&cdn=autos&tm=16&gps=156_4_1020_599&f=10&su=p284.8.150.ip_&tt=14&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//cleggonline.com/sounds/123.wav)
w2amr
08-12-2007, 12:16 PM
Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 12 2007,05:06)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 12 2007,02:21)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Aug. 11 2007,16:57)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,13:31)]All what that was is Liberal sour grapes. #The news media plays this game to maximize profits, because the news media is a business, how about that.
The ONLY point that was somewhat interesting was Bill O saying he said 'shut up' once in 6 years, then the montage. #That was entertaining. #But, at times, you just have to say 'shut up' when a lib uses more than its fair share of talk time.
You're delusional about O'Reilly. He tells people to "shut up" when they are getting his goat.
That piece of crap lies on a daily basis and then has the gall to lie about it the very next day and guys like you lap it up.
The logical next step.
George, #please step back to my last post and reread. # I am agreeing with you about Bill-O, the 'montage' I spoke about was all his 'shut up' comments being played back, much more than once in six years. #The guy is a loose cannon.
I was replying to Dapper Dave's post. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
N1LAF
08-12-2007, 12:53 PM
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 12 2007,05:16)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 12 2007,05:06)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 12 2007,02:21)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Aug. 11 2007,16:57)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,13:31)]All what that was is Liberal sour grapes. The news media plays this game to maximize profits, because the news media is a business, how about that.
The ONLY point that was somewhat interesting was Bill O saying he said 'shut up' once in 6 years, then the montage. That was entertaining. But, at times, you just have to say 'shut up' when a lib uses more than its fair share of talk time.
You're delusional about O'Reilly. He tells people to "shut up" when they are getting his goat.
That piece of crap lies on a daily basis and then has the gall to lie about it the very next day and guys like you lap it up.
The logical next step.
George, please step back to my last post and reread. I am agreeing with you about Bill-O, the 'montage' I spoke about was all his 'shut up' comments being played back, much more than once in six years. The guy is a loose cannon.
I was replying to Dapper Dave's post. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Ha ha ha, duh, I need to reread posts! George, thanks. Have a great day!
k0ews
08-12-2007, 01:35 PM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Aug. 11 2007,23:52)]True. I'm being harsh on Arlidge. He got his 'infotainment' marching orders from his corporate masters and did what he could to salvage news out of the mess.
I guess it would be more accurate to say that it tracks back to the marching orders Arlidge was given when he was made head of the ABC news division.
Some good points there. I'm not saying that he was totally innocent. Roone Arledge not only was in charge of ABC News, but came to that position from ABC Sports, where he was a broadcast pioneer. He came up with Monday Night Football, Wide World of Sports, and even Monday Night Baseball.
The Infotainment probably started with CBS' 60 minutes, and also when ABC did follow suit with 20/20.
When CNN launched, it was primarily a news organization too. Now, there are all these networks, and all of these shows. They've been bad for America. They've made us paranoid, divided us, and kept stirring things up politically to attract viewers.
Americans take journalism for granted. Journalism doesn't exist to keep America enlightened. It exists to make a profit, period. In light of competition, they will do whatever necessary to do so.
w2amr
08-12-2007, 02:03 PM
Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 12 2007,05:53)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 12 2007,05:16)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 12 2007,05:06)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 12 2007,02:21)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Aug. 11 2007,16:57)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,13:31)]All what that was is Liberal sour grapes. #The news media plays this game to maximize profits, because the news media is a business, how about that.
The ONLY point that was somewhat interesting was Bill O saying he said 'shut up' once in 6 years, then the montage. #That was entertaining. #But, at times, you just have to say 'shut up' when a lib uses more than its fair share of talk time.
You're delusional about O'Reilly. He tells people to "shut up" when they are getting his goat.
That piece of crap lies on a daily basis and then has the gall to lie about it the very next day and guys like you lap it up.
The logical next step.
George, #please step back to my last post and reread. # I am agreeing with you about Bill-O, the 'montage' I spoke about was all his 'shut up' comments being played back, much more than once in six years. #The guy is a loose cannon.
I was replying to Dapper Dave's post. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Ha ha ha, duh, I need to reread posts! #George, thanks. #Have a great day!
You too buddy.
n2ize
08-12-2007, 02:38 PM
Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 12 2007,05:08)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 12 2007,03:52)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,19:39)]
Quote[/b] ]
But, you libs need to relax.. after all, you still have CNN/MSNBC/NPR/ABC/CBS/NBC news outlet. #Conservatives are happy to have one news network that doesn't insult us.
Those networks are NOT liberal at all. NPR is at best middle of the road. #The rest CNN, ABC, MSNBC are relatively conservative outlets. What amazes me is that the concept of "liberal" versus "conservative" has become so skewed in the minds of SOME conservatives. What they call "conservative" is in reality extreme far right conservatism and what they call liberal is simply just moderate conservatism.
In the old days what we considered moderately liberal would probably be considered as super radical uber left wing extremism of the highest order by some of todays #conservatives.
Good ol' Bob Grant #would probably be considered liberal these days.
John, not to be disrespectful, but to say that CNN/ABC/MSNBC are relatively conservative outlets, only shows how far to the left you really are.
Yes, by many conservatives in this niche I would probably be considered a super liberal. So it is not surprising that MSNBC, CBS, ABC, #NBC, etc are seen as liberal broadcasting networks by some out here. As I have often said, if they were alive today I am sure that many of Americas founders would be considered liberal left wing extremists.
However, the fact that you find these networks liberal could be an indication of just how far to the right you really are.
n3ixq
08-12-2007, 02:58 PM
Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 12 2007,00:08)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 12 2007,03:52)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,19:39)]
Quote[/b] ]
But, you libs need to relax.. after all, you still have CNN/MSNBC/NPR/ABC/CBS/NBC news outlet. #Conservatives are happy to have one news network that doesn't insult us.
Those networks are NOT liberal at all. NPR is at best middle of the road. #The rest CNN, ABC, MSNBC are relatively conservative outlets. What amazes me is that the concept of "liberal" versus "conservative" has become so skewed in the minds of SOME conservatives. What they call "conservative" is in reality extreme far right conservatism and what they call liberal is simply just moderate conservatism.
In the old days what we considered moderately liberal would probably be considered as super radical uber left wing extremism of the highest order by some of todays #conservatives.
Good ol' Bob Grant #would probably be considered liberal these days.
John, not to be disrespectful, but to say that CNN/ABC/MSNBC are relatively conservative outlets, only shows how far to the left you really are.
I share that thought..
NPR is middle of the road?
N1LAF
08-12-2007, 03:28 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 12 2007,07:38)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 12 2007,05:08)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 12 2007,03:52)]Quote[/b] (N1LAF @ Aug. 11 2007,19:39)]
Quote[/b] ]
But, you libs need to relax.. after all, you still have CNN/MSNBC/NPR/ABC/CBS/NBC news outlet. Conservatives are happy to have one news network that doesn't insult us.
Those networks are NOT liberal at all. NPR is at best middle of the road. The rest CNN, ABC, MSNBC are relatively conservative outlets. What amazes me is that the concept of "liberal" versus "conservative" has become so skewed in the minds of SOME conservatives. What they call "conservative" is in reality extreme far right conservatism and what they call liberal is simply just moderate conservatism.
In the old days what we considered moderately liberal would probably be considered as super radical uber left wing extremism of the highest order by some of todays conservatives.
Good ol' Bob Grant would probably be considered liberal these days.
John, not to be disrespectful, but to say that CNN/ABC/MSNBC are relatively conservative outlets, only shows how far to the left you really are.
Yes, by many conservatives in this niche I would probably be considered a super liberal. So it is not surprising that MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, etc are seen as liberal broadcasting networks by some out here. As I have often said, if they were alive today I am sure that many of Americas founders would be considered liberal left wing extremists.
However, the fact that you find these networks liberal could be an indication of just how far to the right you really are.
Touche', thanks John.
KA8DKT
08-12-2007, 03:59 PM
Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 11 2007,14:50)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Aug. 11 2007,11:39)]And if we are really intelligent people with brains we should all be opposed to journalism that is anything but journalism.
You're delusional again. #Unbiased journalism or reporting has NEVER existed.
Go back to the drawing board!
The problem with the leftist continual posts about Fox News is that it does not follow their agenda -- plain and simple.
True enough, there is always going to be some bias, all reporters are humans. #However some reporters and some outlets at least try to give well rounded reportage. #Fox intentially colors the news...look at the "accidental" labeling of certain Republicans as Democrats. #Others, like Limbaugh, just lie and present those lies as facts.
-gary
KA8DKT
08-12-2007, 04:03 PM
Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 11 2007,17:43)]Quote[/b] (k0ews @ Aug. 11 2007,17:20)]Quote[/b] ]"Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News "
Isn`t deregulation fun!
You're referring to the repeal of the Fairness doctrine? #That was done in by the Supreme Court and the FCC. #Congress tried to codify it twice since 1986, but both times it was vetoed.
The fairness doctrine was put in place during the Red scare in the late 40s. #It was stupid then as it is stupid now. #If the Conservatives want a network they like, I say, fine. #If the Liberals want one, I say, fine. #Let the market sort it out. #All of the "news" organizations are privately held entities anyway. #Truly, about the only non-partisan network on TV is probably C-SPAN.
I tend to agree, let them duke it out for listeners (and viewers). #I do, however, think we need to seriously revisit the limits (or lack thereof) of ownership of media broadcast facilities by so few entities.
Ah, yes. But the very point of the "fairness doctrine" is to ensure that they all have the opportunity to "duke it out".
By the way, the Supreme Court had nothing to do with the demise of the fairness doctrine. Reagan's FCC head got rid of it.
-gary
Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 11 2007,14:50)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,14:34)]Oddly you noticed Cohen. Throwing him under the bus? Because you disagree with his politics? Or because he's Jewish? Whatever. He still worked for Fox.
You know....
This is why libs just don't get any respect.
You use allegations to the same level that you despise from Fox.
Somehow, I'm not surprised.
Jonathan
Jonathon, the difference is that unlike FOX, I'm not lying and saying that it's news. Everybody knows that kons eat their own and throw them under the bus, so how could it be news?
Fox, OTOH, is a bunch of low life, asinine, hypocritical, anti-American, fascist, fetid, neocon flunkies. AND those are their better points.
Glad to set you straight Jonathon. Of course, with the typical fascist attention span, even though this is written, it will be forgotten in 3, 2, 1... *POOF!*
ROTFLMAO.
Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Aug. 11 2007,21:05)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 10 2007,07:58)]It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. This was NOT about BOR. It was about their supposed news division.
Oh I clicked on the link, all right!! I was expecting something good right out'a the box about how biased Fox NEWS was. Instead, I had to listen to a few minutes of Bill O'Reily and Hannity and concluded that the "opinion" piece I was listening to was about as credible as Michael Moore.
You see, you have to GRAB the attention of your audience within the first minute, or you have lost them. Trying to show Fox News is biased requires a piece of News BY THE NEWS TEAM, right out'a the box, that shows UP FRONT what you are trying to say.
Poorly done was this internet video. I'm sure Dan Rather is not proud.
Alas, the stupidity from the left continues it unabated march to oblivion.
No, you have to use firecrackers and chyrons that lie to constantly grab the attention of the no-attention span kons. The rest of us can walk and chew gum at the same time.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
w2amr
08-12-2007, 05:48 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 12 2007,10:27)]Quote[/b] (W4DFW @ Aug. 11 2007,21:05)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 10 2007,07:58)]It is more than apparent that you did not click on the link. #This was NOT about BOR. #It was about their supposed news division.
Oh I clicked on the link, all right!! I was expecting something good right out'a the box about how biased Fox NEWS was. #Instead, I had to listen to a few minutes of Bill O'Reily and Hannity and concluded that the "opinion" piece I was listening to was about as credible as Michael Moore.
You see, you have to GRAB the attention of your audience within the first minute, or you have lost them. #Trying to show Fox News is biased requires a piece of News BY THE NEWS TEAM, right out'a the box, that shows UP FRONT what you are trying to say. #
Poorly done was this internet video. #I'm sure Dan Rather is not proud. #
Alas, the stupidity from the left continues it unabated march to oblivion.
No, you have to use firecrackers and chyrons that lie to constantly grab the attention of the no-attention span kons. #The rest of us can walk and chew gum at the same time.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I love it ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Time for the American LIB nets to come clean.
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/08/shocking_revelations_of_libera.html)
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 12 2007,15:25)]Time for the American LIB nets to come clean.
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/08/shocking_revelations_of_libera.html)
Also, NOT NEWS.
Quote[/b] (Guest @ Aug. 11 2007,14:20)]Quote[/b] ]"Should they ever get caught lying, the legal process affords them protection under the First Amendment. All this, thanks in part to Congress who had the bright idea of passing a rider(hidden) Bill to deregulate the News "
Isn`t deregulation fun!
You're referring to the repeal of the Fairness doctrine? That was done in by the Supreme Court and the FCC. Congress tried to codify it twice since 1986, but both times it was vetoed.
The fairness doctrine was put in place during the Red scare in the late 40s. It was stupid then as it is stupid now. If the Conservatives want a network they like, I say, fine. If the Liberals want one, I say, fine. Let the market sort it out. All of the "news" organizations are privately held entities anyway. Truly, about the only non-partisan network on TV is probably C-SPAN.
The most sane comment yet posted.
A small prayer:
Thank you, God, for supplying CHOICES in news and events coverage and the many varied opinions supplied by all sides. Amen.
"CBS violates Federal Law" ??
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/002809print.html
ALSO NOT NEWS. Danno, do you have any idea how to stay on topic?? Why don't I start a CBS thread just so you can stick all your CBS blog links there? Apparently you can't do that yourself.
KB1KIX
08-13-2007, 02:47 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 12 2007,13:25)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 11 2007,14:50)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,14:34)]Oddly you noticed Cohen. #Throwing him under the bus? #Because you disagree with his politics? #Or because he's Jewish? #Whatever. #He still worked for Fox.
You know....
This is why libs just don't get any respect.
You use allegations to the same level that you despise from Fox.
Somehow, I'm not surprised.
Jonathan
Jonathon, the difference is that unlike FOX, I'm not lying and saying that it's news. #Everybody knows that kons eat their own and throw them under the bus, so how could it be news?
Fox, OTOH, is a bunch of low life, asinine, hypocritical, anti-American, fascist, fetid, neocon flunkies. #AND those are their better points.
Glad to set you straight Jonathon. #Of course, with the typical fascist attention span, even though this is written, it will be forgotten in 3, 2, 1... *POOF!*
ROTFLMAO.
Why do libs hate America so much?
Why do libs hate in general so much?
Group hug time.
Set me straight - you don't have the intellect to even comprehend reality.
Jonathan
Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 13 2007,01:47)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 12 2007,13:25)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 11 2007,14:50)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,14:34)]Oddly you noticed Cohen. Throwing him under the bus? Because you disagree with his politics? Or because he's Jewish? Whatever. He still worked for Fox.
You know....
This is why libs just don't get any respect.
You use allegations to the same level that you despise from Fox.
Somehow, I'm not surprised.
Jonathan
Jonathon, the difference is that unlike FOX, I'm not lying and saying that it's news. Everybody knows that kons eat their own and throw them under the bus, so how could it be news?
Fox, OTOH, is a bunch of low life, asinine, hypocritical, anti-American, fascist, fetid, neocon flunkies. AND those are their better points.
Glad to set you straight Jonathon. Of course, with the typical fascist attention span, even though this is written, it will be forgotten in 3, 2, 1... *POOF!*
ROTFLMAO.
Why do libs hate America so much?
Why do libs hate in general so much?
Group hug time.
Set me straight - you don't have the intellect to even comprehend reality.
Jonathan
Libs love right wingers.
Where else can we go for such comedic relief?
Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Aug. 13 2007,11:05)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 13 2007,01:47)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 12 2007,13:25)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 11 2007,14:50)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 11 2007,14:34)]Oddly you noticed Cohen. Throwing him under the bus? Because you disagree with his politics? Or because he's Jewish? Whatever. He still worked for Fox.
You know....
This is why libs just don't get any respect.
You use allegations to the same level that you despise from Fox.
Somehow, I'm not surprised.
Jonathan
Jonathon, the difference is that unlike FOX, I'm not lying and saying that it's news. Everybody knows that kons eat their own and throw them under the bus, so how could it be news?
Fox, OTOH, is a bunch of low life, asinine, hypocritical, anti-American, fascist, fetid, neocon flunkies. AND those are their better points.
Glad to set you straight Jonathon. Of course, with the typical fascist attention span, even though this is written, it will be forgotten in 3, 2, 1... *POOF!*
ROTFLMAO.
Why do libs hate America so much?
Why do libs hate in general so much?
Group hug time.
Set me straight - you don't have the intellect to even comprehend reality.
Jonathan
Libs love right wingers.
Where else can we go for such comedic relief?
Jerry, it never ends. The danse of the misfit morons goes on, and on, and on... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Fox is Americas version of Pravda. But much less accurate.
KB1KIX
08-13-2007, 04:03 PM
CNN/PBS is the leftist equivalent.
I know... you guys think it actual has journalistic integrity - as long as it "agrees" with you.
Jonathan
Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 13 2007,12:03)]CNN/PBS is the leftist equivalent.
I know... you guys think it actual has journalistic integrity - as long as it "agrees" with you.
Jonathan
Sorry to disappoint you, but your assumption is entirely based on fallacy. I dislike CNN and PBS. Since Turner left, CNN & Headline News are both a waste of time. PBS, while a decent network, rarely has any news that I'm interested in. It has nothing to do with what I agree with, as you can see. OTOH, I'll bet it's a good guess that the right chooses news sources this way. After all, why else would you assume that?
I think that a good competitor for Fox would be the BNN. The Bozo News Network. News delivered by people dressed as Bozo. And they could even blow a horn when "Breaking News" happens. A pie in the face (figuratively, the face would be on a TV screen) of the "Socialistic Seditionist" of the day. I'm certain it would play well in Peoria. Maybe even Hartford. ;)
Try again.
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 13 2007,03:10)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 13 2007,12:03)]CNN/PBS is the leftist equivalent.
I know... you guys think it actual has journalistic integrity - as long as it "agrees" with you.
Jonathan
Sorry to disappoint you, but your assumption is entirely based on fallacy. I dislike CNN and PBS. Since Turner left, CNN & Headline News are both a waste of time. PBS, while a decent network, rarely has any news that I'm interested in. It has nothing to do with what I agree with, as you can see. OTOH, I'll bet it's a good guess that the right chooses news sources this way. After all, why else would you assume that?
Try again.
John,
These guys love to be lied to. They have this case staring them in the eye that says that FOX news does what it can to lie and mislead, and they use the court to uphold this right, and they really don't care.
They simply love to fall for the lies. They love lies from CNN, Headline News, wherever they can seek it like a drug addiction, they shoot up with the lies.
They think we are addicted to them as well. Every drug addict I have ever known tries to justify their addiction with false accusations of others. It is a part of their mental cycle. They really can't help it. It is the only defense mechanism they have, and it only fools themselves.
These guys are addicted to lies.
Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Aug. 13 2007,12:16)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 13 2007,03:10)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 13 2007,12:03)]CNN/PBS is the leftist equivalent.
I know... you guys think it actual has journalistic integrity - as long as it "agrees" with you.
Jonathan
Sorry to disappoint you, but your assumption is entirely based on fallacy. I dislike CNN and PBS. Since Turner left, CNN & Headline News are both a waste of time. PBS, while a decent network, rarely has any news that I'm interested in. It has nothing to do with what I agree with, as you can see. OTOH, I'll bet it's a good guess that the right chooses news sources this way. After all, why else would you assume that?
Try again.
John,
These guys love to be lied to. They have this case staring them in the eye that says that FOX news does what it can to lie and mislead, and they use the court to uphold this right, and they really don't care.
They simply love to fall for the lies. They love lies from CNN, Headline News, wherever they can seek it like a drug addiction, they shoot up with the lies.
They think we are addicted to them as well. Every drug addict I have ever known tries to justify their addiction with false accusations of others. It is a part of their mental cycle. They really can't help it. It is the only defense mechanism they have, and it only fools themselves.
These guys are addicted to lies.
Worse thing about it, is it is so transparent to anybody who really tries to find out what's going on. Well, we got a Dilbert Priciple president, so why should anybody try when underachieving is rewarded? I do like the way the Right thinks on money. Want to be rich? Play the lottery! God will decide. HAW!
And when the reactionary rabid talking points don't work and they don't get their way, foam at the mouth, threaten, stalk, cry to daddy, project, misinform and blame Clinton. Yep, that's really informed.
The Democrats are even worse. AFAIC, there is absolutely no difference between the left and the right once in office. The only differences are:
Democrats say they're going to fight Dubya, then votes for everything he asks for.
Republicans say they're against what Dubya stands for then votes for everything he asks for.
This ain't working. Time to see what's behind Door Number Three...
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 13 2007,03:29)]Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Aug. 13 2007,12:16)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 13 2007,03:10)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 13 2007,12:03)]CNN/PBS is the leftist equivalent.
I know... you guys think it actual has journalistic integrity - as long as it "agrees" with you.
Jonathan
Sorry to disappoint you, but your assumption is entirely based on fallacy. I dislike CNN and PBS. Since Turner left, CNN & Headline News are both a waste of time. PBS, while a decent network, rarely has any news that I'm interested in. It has nothing to do with what I agree with, as you can see. OTOH, I'll bet it's a good guess that the right chooses news sources this way. After all, why else would you assume that?
Try again.
John,
These guys love to be lied to. They have this case staring them in the eye that says that FOX news does what it can to lie and mislead, and they use the court to uphold this right, and they really don't care.
They simply love to fall for the lies. They love lies from CNN, Headline News, wherever they can seek it like a drug addiction, they shoot up with the lies.
They think we are addicted to them as well. Every drug addict I have ever known tries to justify their addiction with false accusations of others. It is a part of their mental cycle. They really can't help it. It is the only defense mechanism they have, and it only fools themselves.
These guys are addicted to lies.
Worse thing about it, is it is so transparent to anybody who really tries to find out what's going on. Well, we got a Dilbert Priciple president, so why should anybody try when underachieving is rewarded? I do like the way the Right thinks on money. Want to be rich? Play the lottery! God will decide. HAW!
And when the reactionary rabid talking points don't work and they don't get their way, foam at the mouth, threaten, stalk, cry to daddy, project, misinform and blame Clinton. Yep, that's really informed.
The Democrats are even worse. AFAIC, there is absolutely no difference between the left and the right once in office. The only differences are:
Democrats say they're going to fight Dubya, then votes for everything he asks for.
Republicans say they're against what Dubya stands for then votes for everything he asks for.
This ain't working. Time to see what's behind Door Number Three...
Oh, look. It's Carol Merrill behind door #3.
I hope Ms. Merrill can help us all.
KA8DKT
08-13-2007, 05:01 PM
Next November make it a time for a change. Relect NOBODY!
-gary
No LIB bias at PMSNBC....
http://newsbusters.org/node/14899/print
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 15 2007,23:23)]No LIB bias at PMSNBC....
http://newsbusters.org/node/14899/print
Quote[/b] ]Joe Scarborough has pulled back the curtain on the liberal bias at MSNBC, describing an incident in which people in its newsroom ceaselessly booed President Bush during a State of the Union address.
That was a technical error. They at first thought that the person they saw on the screen was a babbling chimpanzee.
They applauded when they found out it was the AWOL president.
Tell us something we don't already know.
http://newsbusters.org/node/14898/print
Quote[/b] ]...he conceded the political display matched the “blue” perspective of the majority in his newsroom...
Duh. They are people with an education.
One of the reasons newspapers are on the way out.
http://newsbusters.org/node/14906/print
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 16 2007,05:48)]One of the reasons newspapers are on the way out.
http://newsbusters.org/node/14906/print
Because they are all owned by conservatives like Rupert Murdoch, and they are starting to realize that conservatives are illiterate. They NEED Faux noise because they don't read plain and simple English.
Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Aug. 16 2007,13:11)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 16 2007,05:48)]One of the reasons newspapers are on the way out.
http://newsbusters.org/node/14906/print
Because they are all owned by conservatives like Rupert Murdoch, and they are starting to realize that conservatives are illiterate. #They NEED Faux noise because they don't read plain and simple English.
ROFL!
You sir, owe me a new keyboard.
Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ Aug. 16 2007,06:17)]Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Aug. 16 2007,13:11)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 16 2007,05:48)]One of the reasons newspapers are on the way out.
http://newsbusters.org/node/14906/print
Because they are all owned by conservatives like Rupert Murdoch, and they are starting to realize that conservatives are illiterate. They NEED Faux noise because they don't read plain and simple English.
ROFL!
You sir, owe me a new keyboard.
Sorry Ryan.
Danno just gets the best of himself sometimes.
Marvelous Marvin and the internet.
http://newsbusters.org/node/14915/print
LIB media out of control...
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin....0070817 (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=2003840463&zsection_id=2002111777&slug=brodeur17m1&date=20070817)
Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Aug. 13 2007,12:34)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 13 2007,03:29)]Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Aug. 13 2007,12:16)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 13 2007,03:10)]Quote[/b] (KB1KIX @ Aug. 13 2007,12:03)]CNN/PBS is the leftist equivalent.
I know... you guys think it actual has journalistic integrity - as long as it "agrees" with you.
Jonathan
Sorry to disappoint you, but your assumption is entirely based on fallacy. I dislike CNN and PBS. Since Turner left, CNN & Headline News are both a waste of time. PBS, while a decent network, rarely has any news that I'm interested in. It has nothing to do with what I agree with, as you can see. OTOH, I'll bet it's a good guess that the right chooses news sources this way. After all, why else would you assume that?
Try again.
John,
These guys love to be lied to. They have this case staring them in the eye that says that FOX news does what it can to lie and mislead, and they use the court to uphold this right, and they really don't care.
They simply love to fall for the lies. They love lies from CNN, Headline News, wherever they can seek it like a drug addiction, they shoot up with the lies.
They think we are addicted to them as well. Every drug addict I have ever known tries to justify their addiction with false accusations of others. It is a part of their mental cycle. They really can't help it. It is the only defense mechanism they have, and it only fools themselves.
These guys are addicted to lies.
Worse thing about it, is it is so transparent to anybody who really tries to find out what's going on. Well, we got a Dilbert Priciple president, so why should anybody try when underachieving is rewarded? I do like the way the Right thinks on money. Want to be rich? Play the lottery! God will decide. HAW!
And when the reactionary rabid talking points don't work and they don't get their way, foam at the mouth, threaten, stalk, cry to daddy, project, misinform and blame Clinton. Yep, that's really informed.
The Democrats are even worse. AFAIC, there is absolutely no difference between the left and the right once in office. The only differences are:
Democrats say they're going to fight Dubya, then votes for everything he asks for.
Republicans say they're against what Dubya stands for then votes for everything he asks for.
This ain't working. Time to see what's behind Door Number Three...
Oh, look. It's Carol Merrill behind door #3.
I hope Ms. Merrill can help us all.
LOL! Made me look!
WTF is Carol Merrill?? Now we know... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
n7zsd
08-18-2007, 05:13 AM
I see the hardheads on both sides haven't seen the light....I quit watching the news...even Fox. I have a hard time believing what I read in the paper, and I believe only about half of what I see these days. THEY ALL LIE TO PROMOTE THEIR AGENDA! You can see it in their facial expressions and body gestures. The hide behind some B.S. laws that protect them when they lie to us. The media is potentially the most corrupt originazation on the face of the planet. I challenge you to watch the news with an open mind and pay close attention...you will see what I mean. And surveys?...hell, let's not even go there. Surveys mean squat. Show me a survey, and I'll show you another with opposite results. Once again, this is the media promoting their own agendas.
NYT covers for CAIR...
http://newsbusters.org/node/14958/print
ad4mg
08-18-2007, 10:23 PM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 18 2007,17:31)]NYT covers for CAIR...
http://newsbusters.org/node/14958/print
Quote[/b] ]n7zsd: Once again, this is the media promoting their own agendas.
Not Dan ... he's promoting the media's agendas for them, free of charge!
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At least us conservative space cadets, as shown in your blue pic, don't and cannot let the crap pile too high in their suits.
It's time to change out your suit and tie, eh...
Oh yeah, our suits provide adequate protection from the progressively aromatic and foul liberal stench stinking up the Capital.
Whew!
Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 19 2007,10:01)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 18 2007,15:13)]http://i13.tinypic.com/6gldlib.jpg
At least us conservative space cadets, as shown in your blue pic, don't and cannot let the crap pile too high in their suits.
It's time to change out your suit and tie, eh...
Oh yeah, our suits provide adequate protection from the progressively aromatic and foul liberal stench stinking up the Capital.
Whew!
You're absolutely right. That foul stench of <s>Liberals</s> Democrats and Republicans selling out and giving away our rights. Hope those astronaut diapers hold out until Jan, 2009 space cadet.
w2amr
08-19-2007, 08:39 PM
Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 19 2007,07:01)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 18 2007,15:13)]http://i13.tinypic.com/6gldlib.jpg
At least us conservative space cadets, as shown in your blue pic, don't and cannot let the crap pile too high in their suits. #
It's time to change out your suit and tie, eh...
Oh yeah, our suits provide adequate protection from the progressively aromatic and foul liberal stench stinking up the Capital.
Whew!
Apparently your suits are also treated with truth repellant.
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 19 2007,11:52)]Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 19 2007,10:01)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 18 2007,15:13)]http://i13.tinypic.com/6gldlib.jpg
At least us conservative space cadets, as shown in your blue pic, don't and cannot let the crap pile too high in their suits.
It's time to change out your suit and tie, eh...
Oh yeah, our suits provide adequate protection from the progressively aromatic and foul liberal stench stinking up the Capital.
Whew!
You're absolutely right. That foul stench of <s>Liberals</s> Democrats and Republicans selling out and giving away our rights. Hope those astronaut diapers hold out until Jan, 2009 space cadet.
Laughable.
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Aug. 19 2007,12:39)]Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 19 2007,07:01)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 18 2007,15:13)]http://i13.tinypic.com/6gldlib.jpg
At least us conservative space cadets, as shown in your blue pic, don't and cannot let the crap pile too high in their suits.
It's time to change out your suit and tie, eh...
Oh yeah, our suits provide adequate protection from the progressively aromatic and foul liberal stench stinking up the Capital.
Whew!
Apparently your suits are also treated with truth repellant.
The suit provides physical barriers, like I mentioned.
Didn't you know truth repellent is available in an aerosol spray, just like the "DX Spray" used on my past contest award winning antennas in the lesser-48?
Cheers.
Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 19 2007,16:51)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 19 2007,11:52)]Quote[/b] (NL7W @ Aug. 19 2007,10:01)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 18 2007,15:13)]http://i13.tinypic.com/6gldlib.jpg
At least us conservative space cadets, as shown in your blue pic, don't and cannot let the crap pile too high in their suits.
It's time to change out your suit and tie, eh...
Oh yeah, our suits provide adequate protection from the progressively aromatic and foul liberal stench stinking up the Capital.
Whew!
You're absolutely right. That foul stench of <s>Liberals</s> Democrats and Republicans selling out and giving away our rights. Hope those astronaut diapers hold out until Jan, 2009 space cadet.
Laughable.
So, they speak it and you wear it with disdain for those who notice the problem. Good way to end up alone. Pretty much like that decider dude. American Stinker anybody?
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Yet another LIB radio failure. Commie Jane Fonda out of luck and money.
http://www.nypost.com/php....rl=http (http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/08202007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/feminists_hot_air_opedcolumnists_carrie_lukas.htm)
ad4mg
08-20-2007, 12:01 PM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 20 2007,07:53)]Yet another LIB radio failure. Commie Jane Fonda out of luck and money.
http://www.nypost.com/php....rl=http (http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/08202007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/feminists_hot_air_opedcolumnists_carrie_lukas.htm)
The Hate always shines through.
Can you feel it, brother? Can you feel the Hate?
CNN guess they justed missed the fact the guys a DEM.
http://newsbusters.org/node/14994/print
Soros and PBS, what a great couple.
http://newsbusters.org/node/15014/print
Cresent News Network, "Islamic suicide attacks, quite noble"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=57288 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57288)
ad4mg
08-23-2007, 10:52 PM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 23 2007,18:35)]Cresent News Network, "Islamic suicide attacks, quite noble"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=57288 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57288)
But your link says world-neo-nut-daily ...
Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 20 2007,01:01)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 20 2007,07:53)]Yet another LIB radio failure. Commie Jane Fonda out of luck and money.
http://www.nypost.com/php....rl=http (http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/08202007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/feminists_hot_air_opedcolumnists_carrie_lukas.htm)
The Hate always shines through.
Can you feel it, brother? #Can you feel the Hate?
MG, that's lame. What do you mean hate? You just can't provide an answer.
GreenStone's president and CEO Susan Ness laments the end of its programming as a loss for women, opining that "women need a voice on commercial radio," and "radio needs women's voices." Perhaps Ness should use her time off to tune in to other stations. She'll find there are many prominent women on the airwaves; they're just not saying what she thinks they should.
Laura Ingraham, an outspoken conservative and former clerk for Supreme Court Justice Thomas, has been on the air since 2001 and is now heard on 340 stations. Ingraham draws an audience in excess of 5 million, and regularly ranks among the top-10 most influential radio hosts.
Of course, most significantly, women don't just listen to women radio hosts. Women tune in to men on a wide variety of topics. Rush Limbaugh's 20 million listeners include millions of women. Millions more tune in to hear Sean Hannity and the other conservative, male talk-show hosts around the country. Although Ness may not want to hear it, Limbaugh and conservative talk radio apparently is programming for women.
There is no escaping the history of talk radio. It's conservative and it's what people want to hear.
K2WH
ad4mg
08-23-2007, 11:05 PM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Aug. 23 2007,18:57)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ Aug. 20 2007,01:01)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Aug. 20 2007,07:53)]Yet another LIB radio failure. Commie Jane Fonda out of luck and money.
http://www.nypost.com/php....rl=http (http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/08202007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/feminists_hot_air_opedcolumnists_carrie_lukas.htm)
The Hate always shines through.
Can you feel it, brother? Can you feel the Hate?
MG, that's lame. What do you mean hate? You just can't provide an answer.
GreenStone's president and CEO Susan Ness laments the end of its programming as a loss for women, opining that "women need a voice on commercial radio," and "radio needs women's voices." Perhaps Ness should use her time off to tune in to other stations. She'll find there are many prominent women on the airwaves; they're just not saying what she thinks they should.
Laura Ingraham, an outspoken conservative and former clerk for Supreme Court Justice Thomas, has been on the air since 2001 and is now heard on 340 stations. Ingraham draws an audience in excess of 5 million, and regularly ranks among the top-10 most influential radio hosts.
Of course, most significantly, women don't just listen to women radio hosts. Women tune in to men on a wide variety of topics. Rush Limbaugh's 20 million listeners include millions of women. Millions more tune in to hear Sean Hannity and the other conservative, male talk-show hosts around the country. Although Ness may not want to hear it, Limbaugh and conservative talk radio apparently is programming for women.
There is no escaping the history of talk radio. It's conservative and it's what people want to hear.
K2WH
Quote[/b] ]Yet another LIB radio failure. Commie Jane Fonda out of luck and money.
No, the above is lame. I never read Danno-Bot link & run specials.
If he wants anyone to take him serious, he needs to write an intro like a normal human being.
I don't like his link & run specials, so I do the prudent thing, and ignore them, with an occasional jab at the silliness of debating with opinions written by others. I form my own opinion. I don't require some dweeb running a lame internet rag fr