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AA7BQ
08-03-2007, 03:54 PM
The following is a Q-S-T. The ARRL Board of Directors say NO to lifestyle and checks of ham radio volunteers. Also, the ARRL will not revisit Regulation by Bandwidth right now, the FCC says yes to a 700 MHz rescue radio bandplan and NCVEC meets with the FCC. Find out the details on Amateur Radio Newsline™ report number 1564 coming your way right now.

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ARRL POLITICS: ARRL BOD SAYS "NO" TO BACKGROUND CREDIT CHECKS

The ARRL Board of Directors has issued a policy statement saying no to the demand by served agencies for lifestyle and financial background checks on Amateur Radio volunteers. The action came at the recent Board of Directors Meeting held July 20th and 21st . Don Carlson, KQ6FM, is in Reno with more:

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A major concern to the ARRL Board of Directors was the topic of served agencies and background investigations. An Ad Hoc Background Investigation Committee empanelled by the ARRL some time ago agreed that pursuing federally recognized credentialing for Amateur Radio volunteers was critical for the Amateur Radio Emergency Service to function. The Committee chairman, Atlantic Division Director Bill Edgar, N3LLR, proposed that the Board adopt a policy with regard to Memoranda of Understanding with the various served agencies.

After some discussion the Board did approve a policy on this issue. One that says communications volunteers participating in ARRL sponsored programs should not be required by served agencies to undergo background investigations of any kind. The Directors did however note that criminal background checks as performed by law enforcement agencies are generally acceptable.

But the policy statement also seemed to refute the American Red Cross demand that its contractor, mybackgroundcheck dot com, be given free reign to delve into a volunteers personal finances and lifestyle. While the ARRL Board did not name the American Red Cross in its policy statement, to anyone familiar with the position of the American Red Cross on this issue the intent is hard to miss. The ARRL policy continues -- and we quote:

"It is not reasonable for a served agency to require these volunteers to consent to credit checks, mode of living investigations or investigative consumer reports. In negotiating or renegotiating Memoranda of Understanding that commits the League to provide volunteer emergency communications support, the League must be assured that these volunteers will not be required by the partner organization to consent to credit checks, mode of living investigations or investigative consumer reports." - End quote.

The ARRL policy stopped short of telling those radio amateurs wanting to volunteer to agencies that require credit and lifestyle checks not to do so. That said, many hams will likely now think twice before clicking away their financial information to any group that wants them to work for free.

In Reno, I'm Don Carlson, KQ6FM, for the Amateur Radio Newsline.

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The bottom line.: It appears that the ARRL Board of Directors has now thrown the hot issue of lifestyle and credit check demands back in the lap of the American Red Cross and any other served agency that might make such a demand of ham radio volunteers. That also leaves the next move is up to them. (Adapted from ARRL)

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ARRL POLITICS: BOD VOTES TO EVEN ELECTION PLAYING FIELD

The ARRL Board of Directors has leveled the proverbial playing field in regard to the election process for Directors, Vice Directors and Section Managers. This by clarifying the Rules and Regulations concerning mass communication of campaign material at the ARRL's expense. Henry Feinberg, K2SSQ, reports:

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For years, challengers in ARRL divisional elections have claimed that incumbents have had an unfair advantage in that they had access to materials that the challenger did not. Now the Board of Directors has acted to prohibit all types of mass communications by any candidate for these three offices where-in the ARRL winds up paying any of the costs involved.

Specifically prohibited is any communications where the material is distributed at League expense by mail, electronic distribution including Web sites, hand delivery or any other means to League members in the particular Division or Section involved in an election. This if the material might reasonably be expected to affect the outcome of the election during the campaign period.

According to ARRL specialist Dave Patton, NN1N, this basically means that all candidates running for office candidates cannot use ARRL resources to campaign. However, the new rule does not prohibit a candidate from creating his or her own materials and distributing them using any means he or she may desire, as long as its done at the candidates own expense.

For the amateur Radio Newsline, I'm Henry Feinberg, K2SSQ, in New York.

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The new election rule is effective immediately. (ARRL, ARNewsline™)

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ARRL POLITICS: ARRL ASKS COORDINATORS TO COORDINATE D-STAR

The American Radio Relay League has at least tacitly endorsed the JARL-developed D-STAR digital voice and data communications scheme for relay system use on the VHF and UHF ham bands. Its also asking current FM repeater coordinators to both recognize and accommodate it and other digital voice ciphers through the formal coordination process. Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, is here with more:

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Though D-STAR and, to a lesser degree, APCO 25 protocols are gaining in popularity as a replacement for analog F-M repeaters, some coordinators have come to wonder to what extent either of these systems fall within the FCC definition of an Amateur service relay device? A repeater if you will.

But the ARRL is leaving that to be decided by the FCC at some later date if the regulatory agency ever chooses to do so. For its part the ARRL Board has requested that coordinators begin now to extend their efforts to recommend operating channels to digital voice systems and to consider the bandwidths that they actually required for successful operation.

Currently only Icom supplies D-STAR ham radio gear but other manufacturers are expected to quickly jump on the D-STAR bandwagon. Especially now that there are more than 60 D-STAR repeaters in operation across the United states and more on their way.

The main reason APCO 25 is lagging so far behind D-STAR is the licensing fee required by its codec patent owner. While the P 25 platform is public domain, the encoder decoder is not and carries with it a fairly steep cost. On the other hand D-STAR requires no license fee be paid. The Japan Amateur Radio League saw fit to put its technology fully in the public domain. Anyone with the ability to do so can design a codec for it, but it must be made available to anyone to use.

For the Amateur Radio Newsline. I'm Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF. I'm in the studio in Los Angeles.

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How the more than fifty repeater coordinators nation wide will react to this ARRL Board request to coordinate digital repeaters will take some time to be known. The ARRL Board did thank all existing VHF/UHF frequency coordination groups for their efforts to promote orderly use of Amateur Radio frequencies. (ARRL)


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RADIO RULES: ARRL WILL NOT REFILE NOW ON REGULATION BY BANDWIDTH

Sometimes its what you don't say that means a lot. While the ARRL is vocal regarding digital in the world above 50 MHz, it’s a different story on the high frequency bands. This with word what the ARRL Board did not appear to even discuss another petition to the FCC on the controversial subject of Regulation by Bandwidth. Don Wilbanks, AE5DW, reports:

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While the League has yet to make a formal announcement, word leaked to the ham community by those with knowledge of what transpired at the recent ARRL Board of Directors meeting. They say that the matter was only briefly touched on and that the directors have at least unofficially decided to take a wait and see position. This, while the nations ham community continues to discuss and debate the issue on the air and on-line.

It was only last April that the ARRL withdrew the controversial November 2005 Regulation by Petition for Rule Making RM-11306. It did so it cited what it called "widespread misconceptions" surrounding the petition as a primary reason for deciding to remove it from FCC consideration. At that time the ARRL left open the option of refileing the same or a similar request in the future, however it appears as if now is not that time.

But this does not mean the issue of Regulation by Bandwidth is dead. Its quite conceivable that one or more petitions asking for a change away from designated subbands and over to some form of regulation by bandwidth will be generated from various interest groups within the ham community.

I'm Don Wilbanks, AE5DW.

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As we go to air there are no Regulation by Bandwidth petitions currently awaiting any action before the FCC. (ARNewsline™, listener input)

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From the United States of America, We are the Amateur Radio Newsline, heard on bulletin stations around the world including the Hamfesters Radio Club net serving Bedford Park, Illinois

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ON THE AIR: 6 AND 2 OPEN THE LAST WEEK OF JULY

An amazing last week of July foir D-X on 6 and 2 meters. Hams around the world are reporting superb conditions in the world above 50 MHz that began on the 28th U-T-C.

For example, Scott Avery, WA6LIE, up in Silanas, California reports that he was alerted to the opening by his television set. That from 1600 to 2200 UTC he saw television channel 2 from Seattle with a clear picture and 59 audio. On the ham bands Scott says there were a lot of double and triple hop signals on both bands. At 2110 UTC he talked to VE6EGN ingrid square DO23 on 144.200 Mhz while running only 45 watts to a 13 element beam at 40 feet.

Meantime, Bob Brown, KR7O, says over the VHF Reflector that he made contact with stations in grids CM 97 and CM98 during that same frame of time. KR7O adds that at 2125 UTC that 6 meters was wide open again to Washington, Idaho, Montana and up into Canada as well.

On July 29th , at 23:53, Bob Cox, K4AVO, in central North Carolina reported over the 50 MHz Prop Logger that he was hearing the VE1SMU propagation beacon on 50.001. Its located in Halifax Nova Scotia almost a thousand miles away.

On the other side of the world, Hatsuo Yoshida, JA1VOK, in grid square QM05 reports hearing the BV2NT propagation beacon in Taipei, Taiwan also on 50.001 MHz. It was hitting his QTH in Chiba, Japan, with a very strong 599 signal.

And on July 30th Bob Cox, K4AVO, in Grid FM06 reported hearing CO8LY calling C-Q on 50.095 in C-W. CO8LY is located in Cuba.

Lots of D-X out there on 6 and 2 meters. All you have to do is fire up and keep an ear on the calling frequencies of 50 point 125 and 144 dot 200 MHz. Its there for you to enjoy. (ARNewsline™)

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RADIO LAW: FCC CREATES INTEROPERABLE 700 MHZ RESCUE RADIO BANDPLAN

The FCC has revised its 700 MHz bandplan and service rules to promote the creation of a nationwide interoperable broadband network for public safety. The congressionally mandated change will also facilitate the availability of new and innovative wireless broadband services for consumers.

In a Second Report & Order adopted on Tuesday, July 31st, the Federal Communications Commission revised the band plan which runs from 698-806 MHz. This spectrum is currently occupied by television broadcasters but will be made available for other wireless services, including public safety and commercial use, as a result of the digital television transition.

The Digital Television and Public Safety Act of 2005 set a firm deadline of February 17, 2009, for the completion of the DTV transition. In implementing Congress’ directive to reallocate the 700 MHz airwaves, the Commission was focused on serving the public interest and the American people. The service rules that the Commission has now adopted should help create a national broadband network for public safety that will address the interoperability problems of today’s system. It should also provide for a more open wireless platform that will facilitate the emergence of next generation wireless broadband services in both urban and rural areas. (FCC)

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RADIO TESTING: FCC AND NCVEC HOLD ANNUAL MEETING

The 2007 meeting of the National Conference of Volunteer Examination Coordinators and the FCCs was held in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, on Friday, July 27. Amateur Radio Newsline's Bruce Tennent, K6PZW, tells us what went on:

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There were 11 Volunteer Examination Coordinators represented at this years gathering between the National Conference of Volunteer Examination Coordinators and the FCC. Together these groups represent more than 98% of all examinations administered in the Amateur Service in the United States.

Also in attendance were FCC staffers Donna Scott, Sandra Eckenrode, Terry Fishel and Riley Hollingsworth. Bill Cross, W3TN, from the Wireless Telecom Bureau acted as moderator for the FCC discussions.

Cross first reviewed recent Commission decisions that have affected the VEC's including Wireless Telecommunications Bureau docket items 04-140 and 05-235. He was followed by Riley Hollingsworth who said that complaints have been greatly reduced over the past two years.

In his remarks Hollingsworth noted that enforcement of amateur service rules will continue to be a permanent part of the FCC's regulatory effort. He also noted that although the licensing structure is now simpler, that VECs remain vigilant.

Question Pool Committee Chairman Jim Wiley, KL7CC of the Anchorage VEC gave a preliminary report. He said that the committee is now looking ahead to revising the Element 4 question pool to be used for Extra Class written examinations effective July 1, 2008. The Question Pool Committee is planning to release the entire pool which will include the syllabus on or around December 1st of this year.

Another of the agenda items was a discussion on whether or not the NCVEC should develop a position and issue a statement about foreign language exams. In this regard the ARRL VEC made a motion that N-C-V-E-C approved Spanish language question pools and make them available in addition to the English language version. That motion did not carry.

For the Amateur Radio Newsline. I'm Bruce Tenbnent, K6PZW, in Los Angeles

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The VEC Conference has been held annually since 1985 with the exception of 1999. The complete report on this years NCVEC and FCC meeting is on line on the front newspage at www.qrz.con (NCVEC, QRZ.COM)

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ENFORCEMENT: HAM ASKED TO EXPLAIN HIS OPERATIONS

Turning to enforcement news, the FCC has written to Robert J. Langston, W2ENY, of Cornwall on Hudson, New York asking him to explain a complaint regarding the operation of his station. The FCC says that the complaint alleges transmission of recordings, including recordings of the radio transmissions of other operators, and false identification of transmissions.

The FCC says that if the information in its possession if true, it raises serious questions regarding Langston's qualifications to retain an Amateur license. It asks him to respond in detail to a number of questions regarding the complaint and to support his response with a signed and dated affidavit or declaration. One that under penalty of perjury, verifies the truth and accuracy of the information submitted in his response.

The FCC also told Langston that his license is due for renewal in December of this year. As such the Commission the authority to obtain information from applicants and licensees about the operation of their station and their qualifications to remain a licensee. (FCC)

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ENFORCEMENT: THAT FREQUENCY IS NOT FOR USE

The FCC is asking Frederick C. Severa, AH8I, of Pago Pago, American Samoa, to explain why he has been monitored as operating SSB on 7.055 MHz. This, back on February 12th of this year.

In its July 25th letter to Severa sent via the American Samoa DX Society in California, the Commission says that such operation may reflect adversely on his qualifications to retain an Amateur Radio license.

The letter directs Severa to contact the FCC within 30 days to discuss the matter with peial Counsel Riley Hollingsworth. It also asks Severa to verify his current address since the Commission's first attempt to contact him was returned as undeliverable. (FCC)

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ENFORCEMENT: UNLICENSED OPERATION BRINGS $10000 FINE

A big fine for a Texan who put a radio on the air without FCC permission to do so. Again, Amateur Radio Newsline's Don Wilbanks, AE5DW, has more:

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The FCC has issued a a monetary forfeiture in the amount of $10,000 to Michael Thomas McCollum of Houston, Texas. This for his alleged willful and repeated violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act by operating a radio transmission apparatus without a license.

By way of background, on May 23, 2007, the FCC's Houston Office issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture in the amount of $10,000 to McCollum. The FCC says that McCollum has not filed a response to the N-A-L. So based on the information before it, the FCC acted on July 13th to affirm the forfeiture.

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McCollum was given the customary 30 days to pay or to file an appeal. (FCC)

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RADIO EDFUCATION: FAR ANNOUNCES 2007 SCHOLARSHIP AWAR WINNERS

The Foundation for Amateur Radio has announced the winners of 56 scholarships for the 2007 academic year. The list is far to long to include here but will shortly be available in numerous ham radio print publications.

The Foundation for Amateur Radio is a District of Columbia based non profit organization representing one 50 radio clubs along the central Atlantic coast. The scholarships it administers are open to all licensed radio amateurs who meet the qualification and residence requirements of the various sponsors More information about the foundation and the scholarship program is on line at www.amateurradio-far.org/ (FAR)

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This is ham radio news for today’s radio amateur. From the United States of America, We are the Amateur Radio Newsline with links to the world from our only official website at www.arnewsline.org and being relayed by the volunteer services of the following radio amateur:

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ON THE WEB: FREE ON-LINE REPEATER MAP LOCATOR FROM K5EHX

A new free service for those who want to know where a repeater is located and its approximate service area. Thanks to Tom White, K5EHX, in Tulsa, Oklahoma, such a place in cyberspace now exists.

Toms repeater database is tied to Google Maps and lets you search by tags, city, state or zip code. Tom says that the original idea was to make it easier to search for repeaters in a given area for planning a trip.

You can try it for yourself at http://k5ehx.net/repeaters/ We did. Its fun and it works very, very well.. (K5EHX)

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EMERGING TECHNOLOGY: NEW DIGITAL HAM RADIO REMAILER FORMED

And a new cyberspace retailer dedicated exclusively to the emerging world of digital Amateur Radio communications has been formed on Yahoogroups. This e-mail reflector will primarily discuss the use of digital voice and data communication techniques on the VHF and UHF bands. Technology to be addressed will include D-STAR, APCO P25, packet radio including APRS, High Speed Multi Media, Wi-Fi, P-S-K and F-S-K. To join the group just take your web browser to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/illinoisdigitalham/ and follow the sign up instructions. (WB9QZB)

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RESTRUCTURING - FOLOOW UP: DENMARK LICENSES 40 MHZ HAM RADIO BEACON ACTIVATED

A follow-up to last weeks story on Denmark's telecommunications regulator having approved a permit for a ham radio beacon on 40.021 MHz. According to OZ7IS, the OZ7IGY beacon came to life at 18.20 UTC on July 26th . The output power is 22 watts to a dipole antenna. That will shortly be changed to an omni-directional Turnstile radiator. The license for OE7IGY is valid for a year. Reception reports from around the world 64-oz-beacon go by e-mail to oz7is at qrz.dk (Southgate)

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PUBLIC SERVICE: MARSGRAM SERVES KIDS AT CAMP

The Army MARS new Winlink Messaging System has provided real-life connections for some 200 boys and girls whose separation from family members had very special significance. Capt. Jeff Hammer N9NIC who holds the MARS call sign AAR5WL is an Afghanistan veteran. HE recently set up his portable MARS station at the Indiana Guard's Family Program Youth Camp at Camp Atterbury . He briefed each camper's family on sending a MARSgram.

MARSgrams are free radio messages that connect service personnel and their family and friends. As in many summer programs, phone calls and e-mail were not allowed. The MARSgram was Hammer's solution.

Before e-mail and the cell-phone, amateur radio operators in the Military Affiliate Radio System handled hundreds of thousands of them for troops in the Korean War, Vietnam and the first Gulf War. The service is still available though not as frequently utilized as it once was. (ACapitalNewsOnline)

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HAM RADIO IN SPACE: P3E HARDWARE TO BE READY BY YEARS END

The hardware for the eagerly awaited AMSAT Phase 3E ham radio satellite should be completed by the end of 2007. The announcement came at the recently concluded AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium. That’s where it was also made known that Phase 3E will be the first Amateur satellite to operate at 47 GHz. It is also will use 145 MHz and 435 MHz along with the 1.260, 2.4, 5, 10 GHz Amateur Radio Microwave bands.

As yet there is no launch date. AMSAT is exploring possibilities of an Arianne launch from the ESA site at Kourou in 2008 or on a Soyuz launcher from the new Russian launch site under construction also at Kourou. (ANS)

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HAM RADIO IN SPACE: AMSSAT-UK BEGINNERS WORKSHOP A HIT

The recent AMSAT - UK Beginners Workshop is being described as a truly smashing success and attracted a lot of newcomers to the hobby. Among the many attendees were six members of the University of Surrey Electronics and Amateur Radio Society, all of whom hold Foundation or Intermediate licenses.

AMSAT-UK has held Beginners Workshops at its Annual Colloquium in Guildford, England for 20 years. The aim of these workshops is to show new hams how to get started in the exciting world of Amateur Satellite Communications. It was AMSAT-UK that successfully campaigned to have access to the Amateur Satellite Service available to all United Kingdom amateurs, regardless of the license class that they hold. (Southgate)

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HAM RADIO IN SPACE: JAPAN AMSAT DONATES 1,000,000 YEN TO P3E

Peter Gülzow, DB2OS reports on the AMSAT D L web site that Japan AMSAT has donated 1,000,000 Yen in support of the Phase 3-E satellite. 1,000,000 yen is the equivalent of 6,136 Euros or $8,407 U-S dollars at the current rate of exchange. The monies will be used to help complete and launch the Phase 3 E bird. More is on-line, in German. At the U-R-L in this weeks Amateur radio Newsline report. (ANS)

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WORLDBEAT - SOUTH AFRICA: SARL WT ATTEND GAREC O7

The South African Radio League has added its name to the growing list of groups that will be represented at the upcoming 2007 Global Amateur Radio Emergency Communications Conference.

The gathering is slated to be held in Huntsville, Alabama, on August 16th and 17th just prior to the opening of the 2007 Huntsville Hamfest. This years meeting is focussing on the application of advanced technologies in emergency communications.

The two-day conference will be packed with practical information, and experts will arrange demonstrations of the capabilities of 21st century communications technology. This will include many diverse aspects Amateur Radio as applied to emergency and disaster response. (Southgate)

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Six members of the Japan Amateur Radio League's Kyoto Club will be operating JA3YAQ portable J60 through August 6th . This, to celebrate the 60th anniversary of their club on the island of Pohnpei. The operation will use CW, SSB, FM, RTTY and PSK31 on 160 through 6 meters from the South Park Hotel. QSL as directed on the air.

Also on right now are DL2RMC and DL1RTL who will be active portable TK from Corsica through August 8th. Look for them on 160 through 6 meters on CW and the Digital modes. They will have vertical antennas for the low bands with their activity also being a holiday style operations.
QSL via their home callsigns.

And, listen out for W1ADX, will be active portable 9A from a few of the Dalmatian Islands through August 7th. Activity will be holiday style as time permits. QSL via IN3DEI.

Lastly, for those of you who worked KL7FF in June there is now a QSL route. You can send your QSL, along with an Self Addressed Stamped Envelope to to Paul Kiesel, K7CW , P.O. Box 112 Tahuya, Washington, 98588. Paul says that he has received the cards from the printer and will send you a KL7FF card immediately on receipt of your card.

(Above from various DX news sources)

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THAT FINAL ITEM: THE ARTISTRY OF ANCIENT GREECE IS IN THE SOUND

And finally this week, another kind of communications. That of the human voice and the way it could be heard for thousands of feet long before microphones, amplifiers and loud speakers were invented. The story is from ancient Greece. A not so ancient Jim Meachen, ZL2BHF, takes us back in time to about the 3d Century BC:

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Science Daily reports that researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology have pinpointed the elusive factor that makes the ancient amphitheater the ancient Greek amphitheater at Epidaurus an acoustic marvel. It’s the seats.

The scientists say that the rows of limestone seats at Epidaurus form an efficient acoustics filter that hushes low-frequency background noises like the murmur of a crowd. At the same time it reflects the high frequency noises of the performers on stage off the seats and back toward the seated audience member. This in turn carries the performers voice all the way to the back rows of the theater.

While many experts speculated on the possible causes for Epidaurus’ acoustics, few guessed that the seats themselves were the secret of its acoustics success. There were theories that the site’s wind which blows primarily from the stage to the audience was the cause. Others credited masks that may have acted as primitive loudspeakers or the rhythm of Greek speech. More technical theories took into account the slope of the seat rows.

The report appeared in the April issue of the Journal of the Acoustics Society of America.

From Auckland, New Zealand. for the Amateur Radio Newsline, I'm Jim Meachen, ZL2BHF,

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The theater at Epidaurus permits almost perfect intelligibility of un-amplified spoken word from the stage to all 15,000 spectators, regardless of their seating. What's not known if whether or not those who designed it were aware of the science of acoustics or if it was all nothing more than a lucky guess.

More about Epidaurus and its famed theater is on-line at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidaurus and http://www.greeklandscapes.com/greece/epidaurus.html (Science Daily OnLine)

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nf0a
08-03-2007, 08:59 PM
You know, it`s getting QUITE annoying about Financial/Lifestyle "snooping" ! Who cares what kind of finances(Mine is`nt that good) or whatever and really, no ones business unless a Bank, etc,. needs to know to issue a Moneytrap er Credit card and it`s geting to the point of becoming a potential barrier to almost anything unless you are well-heeled and a have a lofty rep in someones idea of a perfect Lifestyle!...As long as the Individual is dedicated and wants to serve, their finances/lifestyle is their own concern...Sheeeesh this Society is getting overbearing on just about anything nowadays and I don`t want to hear about potential "Thievery" because of bad credit.... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

W3MIV
08-03-2007, 09:24 PM
It's no less annoying to quote the entire preceding post just to make a comment.

w6em
08-03-2007, 10:27 PM
Quote[/b] (aa7bq @ Aug. 02 2007,09:54)].RADIO LAW: #FCC CREATES INTEROPERABLE 700 MHZ RESCUE RADIO BANDPLAN

The FCC has revised its 700 MHz bandplan ........

In a Second Report & Order adopted on Tuesday, July 31st, the Federal Communications Commission revised the band plan which runs from 698-806 MHz. #This spectrum is currently occupied by television broadcasters but will be made available for other wireless services, including public safety and commercial use, as a result of the digital television transition.

The Digital Television and Public Safety Act of 2005 set a firm deadline of February 17, 2009, for the completion of the DTV transition. #In implementing Congress’ directive to reallocate the 700 MHz airwaves, the Commission was focused on serving the public interest and the American people. #The service rules that the Commission has now adopted should help create a national broadband network for public safety that will address the interoperability problems of today’s system. #It should also #provide for a more open wireless platform that will facilitate the emergence of next generation wireless broadband services in both urban and rural areas. #(FCC)
Oh, really? The interoperability problem like the one that existed following Hurricanes Charlie and Katrina? #Sorry, FCC, but converting robust conventional VHF/UHF public safety systems to 700MHz trunked-junk won't help that one. #It just exacerbates it. #Oh, on second thought, maybe the plan is to install HughesNet satellite dishes on the cars and equip each vehicle with a wireless modem so each car can be a mobile "hot spot." #:-)

For the umpteenth time, its not going to work unless they move the military, the Coast Guard, and all of the relief agencies to a high power, conventional allocation that can function via simplex for a significant distance following the destruction of local infrastructure. #Low powered trunkers without trunking controllers and an intact system are just about the most expensive door stops and paper weights one could envision.

Gee, nice to have broadband IP in all of the squad cars and fire engines to watch cool sites when official business is slow, but if one thinks that such a scheme will be operational following a disaster to send email, etc., to the car down the road or 5 miles away, dream on. #Unless, of course, satellite dishes/domes are part of the plan for each vehicle.

Now, I guess it isn't just Motorola and M/A Comm licking their chops, but everybody in the broadband business.

What really bugs me is just how much the American public is being duped by McCain's Bill to digitallize UHF TV to "save the day" and solve the public safety interoperability problem. #Let's be honest and say while it might solve the "business as usual" interoperability problem, it does not solve the one following disasters. #(And, what manufacturer has a HUGE presence in McCain's home state? #I'll leave that one up to our readers.)

All this latest bandplan does is open up the spectrum so that commercial users can fill the FCC's pockets with spectrum auction cash..... #Something public safety agencies wouldn't be doing.

73,

08-04-2007, 06:13 PM
RE: ARRL POLITICS: #ARRL BOD SAYS "NO" TO BACKGROUND CREDIT CHECKS

We want to support Red Cross and similar agencies, as we have in the past. #While we understand the need for improved vetting of volunteers, we also insist on proper protection against ID theft. #Kudos to ARRL for hearing our concerns, and insisting that these agencies "do it right" and not bully volunteers into a compromised situation.

Rick NX6R
ARRL Emergency Coordinator
Claiborne County, TN

N7YA
08-04-2007, 08:32 PM
Please help me to understand here, I have heard in the past about the Red Cross wanting backround checks and even credit checks of volunteers...why is this neccessary?

I may be overlooking a very simple reason here and will gladly accept it if it makes sense...but so far it doesnt. If a major emergency occurs in your area, and people are dying and need someone there now, i sure as hell am not going to be standing in some tent with some ARC brass running my credit score, nor do i want to be filling out paperwork all day while people slip away.

I had a recent conversation with an ARC volunteer, a little higher up than the basic, she was admin i believe and even she admitted that the brass over there was getting way too big for its britches and some skimming was going on...now im not saying that second part from myself but it sure adds fuel to my fire.

Whats happening to our emergency services? If im willing to jump in there and pass sandbags down a line, remove bodies, clean up a street, maybe even rescue someone if im so fortunate...why do you need to know anything about me? apparently the ARRL board members read this website and took notice of the conversation we had about this a few months ago and the vehement reaction they got from hams and our privacy...not to mention that the major emergency services dont have a role for us anymore.

73...Adam, N7YA

nf0a
08-04-2007, 11:35 PM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Aug. 03 2007,14:24)]It's no less annoying to quote the entire preceding post just to make a comment.
No less annoying as to posting a non informative comment.....Hint,,,,...

KC9LWJ
08-05-2007, 06:57 AM
Disasters tend to bring out the best in most people, so I see no reason the Red Cross needs to stick their noses into the personal business and lives. The odd thing is they apparently have their own financial issues, and poor financial practices so who are they to judge our spending habits? It also seems a poor use of donations to spend thosands on checking people out when those $$ should go to helping those in need.

w6em
08-05-2007, 09:30 PM
Quote[/b] (nf0a @ Aug. 03 2007,17:35)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Aug. 03 2007,14:24)]It's no less annoying to quote the entire preceding post just to make a comment.
No less annoying as to posting a non informative comment.....Hint,,,,...
Not really. Apparently the moderators agreed with Al, since your "snippet" of the entire lengthy post seems to have disappeared without a notation that *you* edited your post.

Please, save Fred and us readers the space. Snip what you want to refer to, not the whole bloomin' article.... Geesh!

73,

k6kn
08-07-2007, 06:04 AM
To the ARRL Directors,

I respectfully object to the ARRL position for no or minimum background checks for emergency personnel (hams). I continue to be disappointed in the positions taken by our ARRL Board. I am for as stringent checks as possible. Here is my rationale:

I was a Red Cross volunteer working after Hurricane Katrina. About 110 of us slept in a church in La Place, LA. I was quite happy to know we all had been screened to reduce the chance of having one or more questionable persons around me, with access to my gear while I was away and being entrusted with our sponsor’s assets.

The Red Cross supplied me with a voucher system for air tickets and a cash card to draw travel expenses. The total value entrusted to me was about $1,200. On my third day there I became crew leader, was given the keys to a $40,000 van loaded with relief supplies and led two other vans and two support vehicles. It is simply bad stewardship to turn over such an operation to someone with only a cursory background check. Does ARRL wish to face the media attention upon a member’s possible abusive actions?

I could see how a background check seems too much to require of a ham who drives up and sleeps in his own RV and walks back and forth to a communications room. But in emergency conditions we cannot predict our working responsibilities, bunking facilities and the emotional stability of those we are thrown in with. One of the subtle benefits of having background checks is not so much to weed out the bad folks after they apply as to discourage them from even applying.

Similarly, as a Boy Scout volunteer I gladly submitted a finger print card and information for a criminal background check knowing the benefit is for youth protection.

So, as Harry Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen." Let the emergency support agencies vet their field staff as they see fit. Let those who are not willing to submit to the same examination as their co-workers stay home and provide their support on an individual basis as message relay points or financial donors.

Best regards, Bill Ragsdale, K6KN
Red Cross DRS Volunteer
Boy Scout District Chair
Yolo ARES

W3MIV
08-07-2007, 11:16 AM
Quote[/b] (k6kn @ Aug. 07 2007,02:04)]To the ARRL Directors,

I respectfully object to the ARRL position for no or minimum background checks for emergency personnel (hams). I continue to be disappointed in the positions taken by our ARRL Board. I am for as stringent checks as possible.
Well, Bill, you and every other volunteer who would step forward to work with the ARC still has the option of acquiescing in the ARC's insistence on a range of intrusive investigations. There is nothing in the ARRL decision that changes that.

Quote[/b] ]I was a Red Cross volunteer working after Hurricane Katrina. About 110 of us slept in a church in La Place, LA. # I was quite happy to know we all had been screened to reduce the chance of having one or more questionable persons around me, with access to my gear while I was away and being entrusted with our sponsor’s assets.

How does a credit investigation of your fellow boarders influence your comfort? Does a "lifestyle" investigation make you feel more comfortable? The fact is, many of us feel that those are unnecessary and very intrusive examinations, and they are made all the worse by being carried out by a commercial syndicate of background checkers whose own backgrounds remain unknown.

Quote[/b] ]The Red Cross supplied me with a voucher system for air tickets and a cash card to draw travel expenses. The total value entrusted to me was about $1,200. #On my third day there I became crew leader, was given the keys to a $40,000 van loaded with relief supplies and led two other vans and two support vehicles. # It is simply bad stewardship to turn over such an operation to someone with only a cursory background check. #Does ARRL wish to face the media attention upon a member’s possible abusive actions?


The background checks that the ARRL would leave in place are criminal checks, especially those carried out by law enforcement agencies. It would seem that this should suffice to assure that your fellow volunteers are honest.

Quote[/b] ]I could see how a background check seems too much to require of a ham who drives up and sleeps in his own RV and walks back and forth to a communications room. But in emergency conditions we cannot predict our working responsibilities, bunking facilities and the emotional stability of those we are thrown in with. #One of the subtle benefits of having background checks is not so much to weed out the bad folks after they apply as to discourage them from even applying.

Again, it would seem that criminal background checks should suffice to "weed out the bad folks" or keep them from applying. Or should we understand your definition of "bad folks" as one that is substantially more inclusive than verified criminals?

Quote[/b] ]Similarly, as a Boy Scout volunteer I gladly submitted a finger print card and information for a criminal background check knowing the benefit is for youth protection.


See all of my comments above.

Quote[/b] ]So, as Harry Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen." #Let the emergency support agencies vet their field staff as they see fit. #Let those who are not willing to submit to the same examination as their co-workers stay home and provide their support on an individual basis as message relay points or financial donors.

And that is exactly what the ARRL Board's decision still permits, Bill. It seems you are getting your knickers in a knot for no reason whatever here, since the ARRL has only said that they will advise members who wish to volunteer to let their own comfort with what is demanded by the ARC be their guide.

Why is it that I strongly suspect there is something in your objection that is not being stated openly? Could it be that you really do not understand the simplicity of the decision of the Board? Or, perhaps, do you have some agenda that mandates a desire for backgound checks that impels you to rise in objection?

w6em
08-07-2007, 11:32 PM
I too am puzzled as to why Bill is so critical of ARRL's decision. #But, I think he's dropped us a clue or two.

First off, a thorough background check is not inexpensive. #When I still had my government security clearance, the Office of Personnel Management was charging in the neighborhood of $5K per clearance investigation. #Yes, that's per individual. #And, every 5 years it got repeated.

It consisted of criminal, lifestyle, credit, friends and neighbors, etc. #Quite a thorough job. #And, if you were newly hired, they paid a contractor, Equifax, to conduct a preliminary clearance in addition to the thorough one made by OPM or the FBI.

I don't know what the contractor charges ARC for their criminal and their whatever-else-they-do check. #Frankly, I don't think donors to the American Red Cross really would like to know that its spending significant amounts of donor funds to run checks on volunteers. #If the publicity concerning the checks were to hit the New York Times instead of the ARRL Letter, I suspect the ARC would end the practice real fast, or suffer some serious donor shortfalls.

The example of concern for group encampment appears to be one of lifestyle, not creditworthiness. #Wouldn't want someone different sleeping in my warehouse.....

I suspect Bill's mention of his Boy Scout involvement said where he's headed.

I guess for Bill's sake, I'll share with all that there are gay folks with security clearances. #There are ex drug users that have security clearances. #There are foreign-born, naturalized US citizens with their families still living in sensitive countries that have security clearances.

Even if the government issued all of the above security clearances, I guess they all wouldn't pass the kind of background check Bill is inferring is needed for ARC volunteers.

73,

Lee
W6EM/4

W9SX
08-07-2007, 11:56 PM
Bill WA6ITF, you are a bit wrong about APCO licensing. The licenses is paid for by the manufactures of the equipment.
We have 6 APCO-25 repeaters in Chcago. None of the equipment is home made but recycled commercial gear. Also all of our APCO-25 repeaters are
transparent to analog users unlike D-Star. The repeaters themselves have NO codec and just pass the digital signal thru.
The used recycled radios are very cheap on Ebay ($100 for a Motorola HT or so) depending on what you want so no big time high dollor investment
is needed to get into digital like new D-Star stuff. Also there are many manufactures and various portable, mobile, base and repeaters
availible used or new from many manufactures unlike just ICOM for D-Star.

APCO-25 IS THE COMMERCIAL STANDART AND HAS BEEN AROUND A LOT LONGER THAN D-STAR!

ab8yy
08-09-2007, 02:20 PM
Quote[/b] (KC9LWJ @ Aug. 04 2007,19:57)]Disasters tend to bring out the best in most people, so I see no reason the Red Cross needs to stick their noses into the personal business and lives. The odd thing is they apparently have their own financial issues, and poor financial practices so who are they to judge our spending habits? It also seems a poor use of donations to spend thosands on checking people out when those $$ should go to helping those in need.
Supposedly there were things and money missing after Katrina's assistance. What I'm trying to figure out is exactly how a ham volunteer got access to that money and stuff to begin with? I don't think it happened. For years the ARC has been investigated concerning their spending of donations. So, because THEY can't do it right - they need to attempt to put suspicion onto their volunteers, this is what it's all about people. If they can attempt to put the blame for their own mistakes onto volunteers, then they will look better and people will continue to make donations. It's as simple as that.

The problem I have is simple as well, when we show up to assist in an emergency or disaster, we REALLY are NOT red cross volunteers, per se. In order to become a volunteer for the Red Cross, you need to fill out tons of paperwork and there are basic required classes to be taken before you are accepted. We are, technically, still ARES/RACES/EOC volunteers who have been placed in a position to assist the Red Cross as communicators, NOT in a position to run shelters or other such things. We should not be in there helping with sand bags and running shelters unless the EC and or EM requests this. As a member of RACES, when you are activated, you usually fall under the workers compensation provided by the county since this is a government agency you are dealing with. This is not the same as the Red Cross nor ARES. Neither of those organizations will provide you with any injury protection in most cases. When working with either of them, you should be in a capacity of communications ONLY - not rescuing people, or getting into any situation which puts you into any kind of danger either physically, mentally, or biologically. As such, ARC has no business even calling you a volunteer - unless you actually carry an ARC card and are registered as a volunteer, in which case the ARRL doesn't have any futher control over that situation and you ahve to follow ARC rules.

Steve

ab8yy
08-09-2007, 02:29 PM
Quote[/b] (k6kn @ Aug. 06 2007,19:04)]To the ARRL Directors,

I respectfully object to the ARRL position for no or minimum background checks for emergency personnel (hams). I continue to be disappointed in the positions taken by our ARRL Board. I am for as stringent checks as possible. Here is my rationale:

I was a Red Cross volunteer working after Hurricane Katrina. About 110 of us slept in a church in La Place, LA. # I was quite happy to know we all had been screened to reduce the chance of having one or more questionable persons around me, with access to my gear while I was away and being entrusted with our sponsor’s assets.

The Red Cross supplied me with a voucher system for air tickets and a cash card to draw travel expenses. The total value entrusted to me was about $1,200. #On my third day there I became crew leader, was given the keys to a $40,000 van loaded with relief supplies and led two other vans and two support vehicles. # It is simply bad stewardship to turn over such an operation to someone with only a cursory background check. #Does ARRL wish to face the media attention upon a member’s possible abusive actions?

I could see how a background check seems too much to require of a ham who drives up and sleeps in his own RV and walks back and forth to a communications room. But in emergency conditions we cannot predict our working responsibilities, bunking facilities and the emotional stability of those we are thrown in with. #One of the subtle benefits of having background checks is not so much to weed out the bad folks after they apply as to discourage them from even applying.

Similarly, as a Boy Scout volunteer I gladly submitted a finger print card and information for a criminal background check knowing the benefit is for youth protection.

So, as Harry Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen." #Let the emergency support agencies vet their field staff as they see fit. #Let those who are not willing to submit to the same examination as their co-workers stay home and provide their support on an individual basis as message relay points or financial donors.

Best regards, Bill Ragsdale, K6KN
Red Cross DRS Volunteer
Boy Scout District Chair
Yolo ARES
The key to your response is that you stated you were a RED CROSS VOLUNTEER and were entrusted to their equipment and vans and such including a cash card for expenses. #The issue at hand is NOT that case. #The issue at hand is concerning volunteer COMMUNICATORS. #If you choose to "join" the red cross, then you would be subject to their own policies and that's not any of ARRLs concerns here. #But some of us do NOT belong to ARC and do not feel that in order to show up to operate OUR OWN radios on OUR OWN time and NOT getting paid for anything (which is the legal method of communcating with ham radio by the way), then we should NOT be subjected to credit checks and so on. #There is still nothing wrong with criminal back ground checks done thru a law enforcement agency as it should be done. #I too worked with the boy scouts as and Explorer Advisor for TWO explorer posts with the fire department and I did the full criminal back ground checks which included NCIC checks and both federal and state. #I see nothing wrong with that in the case of communicators with access to others in a disaster. #But going into our credit and financial background with no good reason is a little much.

There is a difference between being a full-fledged trained ARC volunteer with an ARC ID card and volunteering thru an emergency agency to communicate for the ARC. #If you are accepting payments to operator your radios, you may want to check the rules on this one. #The only exception I could find in part 97 was for teachers in schools systems where they used ham radio within the classroom and got paid for teaching. #

Just a thought.

Steve

Edit: Thanks Albert for pointing out the obvious which I missed - the comment about the Boy Scouts and their agenda.

Also, thanks to the person that pointed out that even the government allows security clearances to people that the red cross wouldn't let in their doors. That's pretty sad isn't it? And the fact that the public would REALLY ridicule the ARC for spending that kind of their donations on something as useless and stupid as these kinds of checks would in fact, really upset the apple cart. Maybe someone should leak this to the press?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif? In case the press isn't monitoring QRZ?

KC8VWM
08-12-2007, 10:40 PM
[quote=aa7bq,Aug. 03 2007,08:54]

But the policy statement also seemed to refute the American Red Cross demand that its contractor, mybackgroundcheck dot com, be given free reign to delve into a volunteers personal finances and lifestyle. #While the ARRL Board did not name the American Red Cross in its policy statement, to anyone familiar with the position of the American Red Cross on this issue the intent is hard to miss. # The ARRL policy continues -- and we quote:

"It is not reasonable for a served agency to require these volunteers to consent to credit checks, mode of living investigations or investigative consumer reports. #In negotiating or renegotiating Memoranda of Understanding that commits the League to provide volunteer emergency communications support, the League must be assured that these volunteers will not be required by the partner organization to consent to credit checks, mode of living investigations or investigative consumer reports." #- End quote.

-----------

The one thing everyone is missing and fails to mention is the 1974 Privacy Act which specifically states:

"A Social Security Number, or other personal identification number (PIN such as driver's license) is required to be used only for the following benefits:

1. To receive public assistance benefits.
2. To pay Social Security taxes.
3. To receive Social Security benefits and refunds."

In addition any individual may refuse to provide the Social Security Number for any other reason than those listed above, ***without any reprisals.***

It is unlawful (never mind just unreasonable) #for any organization #to deny to any individual any right, service, benefit, or privilege provided by law because of such individual's refusal to disclose his Social Security Number to them.

Therefore, we have a specific right not to disclose our Social Security Number to anyone or entity not indicated in the Privacy Act and they in turn are strictly forbidden from forcing any individual to provide it to them.

Refusing anyone membership into an organization based on them demonstarting their legal right according to their protected rights outlined in the Privacy Act of 1974 is considered as an unlawful activity.

The Privacy Act is very clear about this.

73 de Charles - KC8VWM

W3MIV
08-12-2007, 10:50 PM
I am not telling you that what you post is incorrect, Charles, for I don't know that it is or isn't. I would say, however, that in the thirty-three years since, the Congress may well have made revisions and/or additions that were never made subject to publicity. The SOBs do this sort of thing all the time, as they did a couple of years ago changing the posse comitatus provisions so that military personnel could be easier utilitzed for what were always civilian (read state and local) jurisdictional matters.

The Homeland Security craze has ruptured lots of privacy hymens across the land, and government (at all levels) is always happy to encroach and loathes ever to retreat.

W3MIV
08-12-2007, 11:03 PM
Quote[/b] (w6em @ Aug. 07 2007,19:32)]First off, a thorough background check is not inexpensive. #When I still had my government security clearance, the Office of Personnel Management was charging in the neighborhood of $5K per clearance investigation. #Yes, that's per individual. #And, every 5 years it got repeated.

It consisted of criminal, lifestyle, credit, friends and neighbors, etc. #Quite a thorough job. #And, if you were newly hired, they paid a contractor, Equifax, to conduct a preliminary clearance in addition to the thorough one made by OPM or the FBI.
Forty-plus years ago, I ran those background investigations as a matter of routine. Any background investigations or interviews of references or witnesses within the military jurisdiction of USAREUR and Seventh Army back then proceded through our channels as a matter of course.

They were, indeed, thorough. Any hint of "derogatory" information immediately expanded the scope of the investigation so that every lead was run to its end. When those leads led outside of Europe, reports were forwarded back to the States for follow-up in the other jurisdictions.

Back then, a "gay lifestyle" was the absolute end of a clearance. So, too, was alcoholism or any form of mental "problem" (intentionally left open to interpretation as needed). Determinations were handled by boards, and any doubts were inevitably resolved in favor of security. I know of many cases of dead-ended careers because of allegations that were unfounded, but remained unresolved.

Of course, the whole thing blew up when the members of that Bordello on the Potomac discovered that US Army CI agents were conducting investigations on civilians within the borders of CONUS and within a year or so the entire military intelligence operation was turned on its ear.

I don't know to this day if we are a more humane and less secure nation or if the changes were to our benefit. But I would still rather have my background investigated by the highly trained agents with whom I worked as the SAIC of a resident office in Germany than some civvie slick working a contract for a "security" company whose sole interest is the number of BIs per quarter and its bottom line.

As to the ARC, I confess that I dislike them strongly. Over the years I have had occasion to watch a lot of their operations, not least their management of the nation's blood supply, and I seriously question their competence. But that is another issue entirely.

K7JEM
08-12-2007, 11:07 PM
I don't think you have the privacy act quoted correctly.

Obviously, you need a SSN to get an FRN, or a HR license. I don't know that is can be obtained otherwise, at least if you are a US citizen.

A SSN is required to run a credit check, it has been that way for decades. If you refuse them your SSN, they can deny you the credit.

If you deny the SSN for a background check, the RC can deny you their "volunteer" status.

No laws are being broken here.

Joe

KC8VWM
08-13-2007, 04:11 AM
Joe says,

A SSN is required to run a credit check, it has been that way for decades. If you refuse them your SSN, they can deny you the credit.

If you deny the SSN for a background check, the RC can deny you their "volunteer" status.

So Joe shall we go to the extent of suggeting that even if you refuse to give the wallmart greeter your SSN number you can be equally refused to enter the store?

The point is where are the lines drawn exactly in this equasion? Surely I can understand a financial institution having authority to use that specific information and I think it's outlined somewhere in the Privacy Act for that matter but a private company like wallmart? What's next a lemonade stand needs your SSN before you can conduct business with them?

You decide.

BTW, the following is a verbatim quote with the source included...

"The HEW Report also extensively studied the issue of the Social Security number (SSN). This was a particular concern because the SSN seemed to be the most likely candidate for creating a "standard universal identifier," or SUI, which could be used as a key to link all of the records kept on a person by all agencies. Because of this risk, the HEW Report recommended that the

*** SSN should only be used where it is absolutely necessary (for instance, by the Social Security Administration in delivering benefits, or where existing laws required agencies to use the SSN), and that no agency should require someone to give their SSN out unless Congress specifically required it. ****

These recommendations were also evident in the final text of the Privacy Act. "

Source: #http://www.epic.org/privacy/1974act/

If anything, thier use of the SSN does nothing but jeopardize the security of it's volunteer participants!

It does not serve to protect them or thier identities from theft or abuse. The only way that sort of secuity can be insured is by not providing anyone with that information in the first place..

So my question is the ARC intention to protect it's volunteers from these security risks or are they placing them at a greater security risk potential by requiring this information?

It's comforting to know that I feel safe knowing this information is placed into the hardrives of an outside non governmental here today - gone tommorow fashionable post 9/11 homeland security dot com consulting agency isn't it?

73 de Charles - KC8VWM

KI4VIR
08-13-2007, 02:39 PM
Don't get too upset about it. When something like hurricane Katrina hurricane blows through again, and the Red Cross needs assistance, they'd have to be pretty stupid to turn away a ham radio operator just because they "haven't done a credit check". Then again, people CAN be stupid.
If they still want to turn you away, it doesn't mean you can't provide communications for people on your own during an emergency.

W9WHE
08-15-2007, 03:29 PM
"The ARRL Board of Directors has issued a policy statement saying no to the demand by served agencies for lifestyle and financial background checks............"



Somebody better tell arrl that the decision is NOT arrl's to make.
The decision on whether the ARC will require background checks is for the ARC to make. ARC has taken a well proven step to protect itself. Afterall, its not arrl that will get sued. Its ARC. So, I expect that ARC will respond to arrl much the same way that FCC has responded to arrl's huffing and puffing......BY IGNORING arrl.

arrl ARROGANCE. SHEER ARROGANCE.


W9WHE
Proud to have CANCELLED my arrl membership!

KC8VWM
08-16-2007, 03:25 AM
http://kotv.com/newsimages/214/cd24f0ac-c07f-481c-9128-37cb5b534363.jpg

The image shown above represents a "here today - gone tomorrow" record keeping agency that went out of business and left everyone's personal information and records inside this storage unit.

When the storage fee's were no longer being paid by the defunct company, the owner of the storage unit... you guessed it....

** Threw all the records into the trash! **

They tossed the records and papers containing 1000's upon 1000's of people's personal information including their #social security numbers directly into the hands of identity thieves in the dumpster!

Perhaps, this is an private company very similar in scope to the same company the ARC is currently using to conduct these security checks?

The story is titled:

"Boxes Full Of Personal Information Found In The Trash"

The complete story is at this URL:

http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=133886

In other words, "What happens to my social security number and personal information when it gets into the hands of a non governmental private company?"

Well, I am sure when this company was in business "they" offered up all the usual assurances like "we do this and we do that with your personal information" security rhetoric talk.

Well, I think "security assurance" talk is cheap when it comes from the mouths of ANY private business holding your personal information and news stories similar to this one further support that statement...

I can't help but wonder how the ARC can adequately ensure how an outside private non governmental entity they are using to conduct these security background checks; (but yet they don't have no direct control over;) #is going to ensure ham operators personal information remains protected from a similar fate a few years from now?

Simply put... They can't.

Just like this news story in my example clearly demonstrates, I don't think the ARC has any control over any security practice any outside private company is engaged in to protect your personal information.

Perhaps some may feel this may be a non issue today, but I am not really concerned about what happens today, but rather what is going to happen 2 - 5 years down the road when my Social Security number ends up in a storage unit like this one.

These false sense of security checks the ARC are conducting, does nothing in terms of providing members of the ARC with any advanced level of security.

Conducting these security checks does nothing more than potentially place ARC volunteers at a greater risk for identity theft in the future.

In fact, they could more effectively serve to increase their level of security for both internal ARC personnel and volunteers by not conducting any of these security checks in this manner in the first place!


Quote[/b] (W9WHE @ Aug. 15 2007,08:29)]The decision on whether the ARC will require background checks is for the ARC to make. ARC has taken a well proven #step to protect itself.

W9WHE
#

These are supposed to be the so called "well proven steps" they are taking to ensure they are adequately protecting themselves in the interests of protecting people's security interests?

No thanks, I'll pass.

73 de Charles - KC8VWM

W9WHE
08-16-2007, 02:57 PM
Charles, no question, its your (and every other ham's) decision to "pass".

However, given the "dumbed down" license requirements, the reality is that ARC employees are only 28 correct questions away from a ham license. Thanks to arrl, your ham ticket is not as "valuable" to ARC as it once was. Thanks to arrl, ARC can easily replace you.

You can disagree with the efficasy of background checks all you want. However, the FACT is that they are time-honored and in widespread use across public safety for very good reasons. They are effective.

For every horror story about records, you can point to a wacko that would have been screened out by a proper background check. That is why professionals are not persuaded by anectdotal "stories".

Don't shoot the messinger....OK?