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KW4MW
07-29-2007, 11:18 AM
Why modern environmentalism is a heathen religion:
- there is tithing (donations to Greenpeace, Earth First, etc)
- there is the notion of sin (polluting)
- there are indulgences (carbon offset credits)
- there are oracles/prophets (GW researchers) and high-priests (Al Gore, celebrities)
- they rely on indoctrination at a young age
- it is considered blasphemy to go against their "wisdom"
- all evidence is to be interpreted only in light of their unquestionable "truths"
- they are moral busybodies that want to push their views on everyone else
- people who do not strictly follow their guidelines are considered immoral
- people who publicly support opposing views are said to be possessed by evil entities (corporations)
- violence is advocated by many adherents (ELF, ALF, Earth First, etc) to promulgate their "truths"
- they say we are DOOMED FOR ETERNITY unless we listen to them
- if we go against the will of their god (Gaea), their god will punish us (hurricanes, floods, disease, searing heat)
W3MIV
07-29-2007, 12:00 PM
Kind of hard to see Al Bore as Pontifex Maximus, but Mikey Moore does resemble a certain ugly, fat little Augustinian of heretical fame.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
So what's the difference between an environmentalist and a christian then http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
n2ize
07-29-2007, 05:39 PM
I agree, why should we give into these environmental zealots ? Lets just continue to be ignorant and pollute the heck out of everything and not give it a care or a second thought. After all, it's the right of everyone to be dumb, ignorant and careless.
Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ July 29 2007,03:18)]Why modern environmentalism is a heathen religion:
- there is tithing (donations to Greenpeace, Earth First, etc)
- there is the notion of sin (polluting)
- there are indulgences (carbon offset credits)
- there are oracles/prophets (GW researchers) and high-priests (Al Gore, celebrities)
- they rely on indoctrination at a young age
- it is considered blasphemy to go against their "wisdom"
- all evidence is to be interpreted only in light of their unquestionable "truths"
- they are moral busybodies that want to push their views on everyone else
- people who do not strictly follow their guidelines are considered immoral
- people who publicly support opposing views are said to be possessed by evil entities (corporations)
- violence is advocated by many adherents (ELF, ALF, Earth First, etc) to promulgate their "truths"
- they say we are DOOMED FOR ETERNITY unless we listen to them
- if we go against the will of their god (Gaea), their god will punish us (hurricanes, floods, disease, searing heat)
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You obviously don't think for yourself or you are some kind of uber-troll.
Pathetic.
Dave NX6D
Tulelake, CA
N8UZE
07-29-2007, 05:55 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ July 29 2007,13:39)]I agree, why should we give into these environmental zealots ? Lets just continue to be ignorant and pollute the heck out of everything and not give it a care or a second thought. After all, it's the right of everyone to be dumb, ignorant and careless.
The zealots are not truly environmentalists just like the terrorists are not really religious people.
A true enviromnetalist will keep in mind that mankind is also part of nature and that BALANCE is needed. #
The zealots would totally ban coal and oil burning because of pollution potential, nuclear power because of potential radiation issues, hydroelectric power because the necessary dams will change the local environment, even solar as the panels will disturb the natural distribution of solar radiation effects. #This then leaves mankind shivering in the dark.
A true environmentalist will acknowledge that mankind does have needs and will promote resource management rather than total bans.
n2ize
07-29-2007, 06:40 PM
Quote[/b] (N8UZE @ July 29 2007,10:55)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ July 29 2007,13:39)]I agree, why should we give into these environmental zealots ? Lets just continue to be ignorant and pollute the heck out of everything and not give it a care or a second thought. After all, it's the right of everyone to be dumb, ignorant and careless.
The zeolots are not truly environmentalists just like the terrorists are not really religious people.
A true enviromnetalist will keep in mind that mankind is also part of nature and that BALANCE is needed. #
The zealots would totally ban coal and oil burning because of pollution potential, nuclear power because of potential radiation issues, hydroelectric power because the necessary dams will change the local environment, even solar as the panels will disturb the natural distribution of solar radiation effects. #This then leaves mankind shivering in the dark.
A true environmentalist will acknowledge that mankind does have needs and will promote resource management rather than total bans.
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The zeolots are not truly environmentalists just like the terrorists are not really religious people.
The problem is the kind of zealots you describe are very far and very few between. Unfortunatelly some of the right wing talking heads in this country have placed almost everyone who is concerned about environmental issues as being a zealot.
Things like oil and coal are not sustainable in the long term. We cannot keep burning these fuels in vast and ever increasing quantities and expect things to remain A-OK. But when researchers point this out they are immediatly labels zealots and wackos. When the vast majority of reputable and professional researchers discuss the likely link between pollution and global climate change they are labelsed zealots, wacko's, and worst.
Most environmentalists understand that we are not going back to living in the woods, living in caves and eating nuts and berries gathered in the wild. Unfortunately and all to often when they lay out viable and practical issues they are called zealots.
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The zealots would totally ban coal and oil burning because of pollution potential, nuclear power because of potential radiation issues, hydroelectric power because the necessary dams will change the local environment, even solar as the panels will disturb the natural distribution of solar radiation effects. #This then leaves mankind shivering in the dark.
There are a few extremists who feel that man has no place on this earth and that he should simply roll up and die off. To those extremists I request they set an example for the rest of us by doing just what they preach. However, the vast majority of environmentalists I have heard from or met don't want to impost outright bans on oil, coal, atomic power etc. Most of them would like to see these sources replaced over time with cleaner sources or, at the very least, operated in a manner that assured the minimal amount of negative impact. #
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A true environmentalist will acknowledge that mankind does have needs and will promote resource management rather than total bans.
And that is just how most of the true environmentalists feel about it. They understand that outright bans are impractical and unrealistic. They would rather see sensible intelligent and manageable changes made over time as opposed to outright and abrupt bans that would have a devestating impact on us all.
There are always a few extremists in every ideology. Usually their extreme reactions are a result of abrupt knee jerk reactions instead of well formualted and thought out ideas.
G0GQK
07-29-2007, 08:45 PM
What's the difference between an environmentalist and a Christian ? Well, a Christian puts his garbage bin outside in the yard on the proper day so as not to upset his environmentalist neighbours but the environmentalist doesn't have any garbage because they eat it to reduce their carbon footprint.
G0GQK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
kb2vxa
07-29-2007, 10:35 PM
There is one glaring item you overlooked, prophesy. The Gaeans say the future is in our hands, Judeo-Christians say it's in God's hands. One side says we can change our destiny the other says we can't and the end of the world is inevitable.
destiny (`d‚st€n€) n., pl. -nies.
1. the future destined for a person or thing; fate; fortune; lot.
2. the predetermined or inevitable course of events.
3. the ultimate power or agency that predetermines the course of events.
It seems to me the environmentalists are liars, we're all gonna die. I know I will, are you planning on living forever? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Quote[/b] (kq9j @ July 29 2007,08:46)]So what's the difference between an environmentalist and a christian then http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Good point Mike. Of course 'tithing' implies a required and sometimes enforced 'donation'.
What's the difference? So far, Enviromentalists haven't had a Crusade or Inquisition.
Yet. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
KW4MW
07-30-2007, 01:12 AM
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ July 29 2007,13:42)]Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ July 29 2007,03:18)]Why modern environmentalism is a heathen religion:
- there is tithing (donations to Greenpeace, Earth First, etc)
- there is the notion of sin (polluting)
- there are indulgences (carbon offset credits)
- there are oracles/prophets (GW researchers) and high-priests (Al Gore, celebrities)
- they rely on indoctrination at a young age
- it is considered blasphemy to go against their "wisdom"
- all evidence is to be interpreted only in light of their unquestionable "truths"
- they are moral busybodies that want to push their views on everyone else
- people who do not strictly follow their guidelines are considered immoral
- people who publicly support opposing views are said to be possessed by evil entities (corporations)
- violence is advocated by many adherents (ELF, ALF, Earth First, etc) to promulgate their "truths"
- they say we are DOOMED FOR ETERNITY unless we listen to them
- if we go against the will of their god (Gaea), their god will punish us (hurricanes, floods, disease, searing heat)
More email spam...
You obviously don't think for yourself or you are some kind of uber-troll.
Pathetic.
Dave NX6D
Tulelake, CA
I did not intend this thread as trolling material or as a commentary of any kind, I simply intended it to be what it is - a spoof, a joke, simply something to laugh at and then continue on one's merry way. #
However with this dour crowd and their collective lack of humor (that includes you 6D), I'm not surprised that it turned out the way it did.
Too bad everything is a crisis with some people. #
Me - I thought it was humorous - that's all. #Too bad you didn't see it the same way.
More on the cult of global warming.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Article....0912CE3 (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=4FB31C33-09BC-46F8-B5AA-94DF50912CE3)
Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ July 29 2007,12:12)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ July 29 2007,13:42)]Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ July 29 2007,03:18)]Why modern environmentalism is a heathen religion:
- there is tithing (donations to Greenpeace, Earth First, etc)
- there is the notion of sin (polluting)
- there are indulgences (carbon offset credits)
- there are oracles/prophets (GW researchers) and high-priests (Al Gore, celebrities)
- they rely on indoctrination at a young age
- it is considered blasphemy to go against their "wisdom"
- all evidence is to be interpreted only in light of their unquestionable "truths"
- they are moral busybodies that want to push their views on everyone else
- people who do not strictly follow their guidelines are considered immoral
- people who publicly support opposing views are said to be possessed by evil entities (corporations)
- violence is advocated by many adherents (ELF, ALF, Earth First, etc) to promulgate their "truths"
- they say we are DOOMED FOR ETERNITY unless we listen to them
- if we go against the will of their god (Gaea), their god will punish us (hurricanes, floods, disease, searing heat)
More email spam...
You obviously don't think for yourself or you are some kind of uber-troll.
Pathetic.
Dave NX6D
Tulelake, CA
I did not intend this thread as trolling material or as a commentary of any kind, I simply intended it to be what it is - a spoof, a joke, simply something to laugh at and then continue on one's merry way.
However with this dour crowd and their collective lack of humor (that includes you 6D), I'm not surprised that it turned out the way it did.
Too bad everything is a crisis with some people.
Me - I thought it was humorous - that's all. Too bad you didn't see it the same way.
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W4HAY
07-31-2007, 01:25 PM
Rush is right: liberals have no sense of humor! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Speaking of AlGore: (http://www.jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/MFT20070731.jpg)
N8UZE
07-31-2007, 01:53 PM
Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ July 29 2007,21:12)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ July 29 2007,13:42)]Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ July 29 2007,03:18)]Why modern environmentalism is a heathen religion:
- there is tithing (donations to Greenpeace, Earth First, etc)
- there is the notion of sin (polluting)
- there are indulgences (carbon offset credits)
- there are oracles/prophets (GW researchers) and high-priests (Al Gore, celebrities)
- they rely on indoctrination at a young age
- it is considered blasphemy to go against their "wisdom"
- all evidence is to be interpreted only in light of their unquestionable "truths"
- they are moral busybodies that want to push their views on everyone else
- people who do not strictly follow their guidelines are considered immoral
- people who publicly support opposing views are said to be possessed by evil entities (corporations)
- violence is advocated by many adherents (ELF, ALF, Earth First, etc) to promulgate their "truths"
- they say we are DOOMED FOR ETERNITY unless we listen to them
- if we go against the will of their god (Gaea), their god will punish us (hurricanes, floods, disease, searing heat)
More email spam...
You obviously don't think for yourself or you are some kind of uber-troll.
Pathetic.
Dave NX6D
Tulelake, CA
I did not intend this thread as trolling material or as a commentary of any kind, I simply intended it to be what it is - a spoof, a joke, simply something to laugh at and then continue on one's merry way. #
However with this dour crowd and their collective lack of humor (that includes you 6D), I'm not surprised that it turned out the way it did.
Too bad everything is a crisis with some people. #
Me - I thought it was humorous - that's all. #Too bad you didn't see it the same way.
Yes it is hilarious. Most good comedy is derived from real life.
However, it is also rather scary as it too accurately describes some of the extremists. Unfortunately people tend to ignore extremists until it is too late.
Quote[/b] (W4HAY @ July 31 2007,00:25)]Rush is right: liberals have no sense of humor! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
You are correct.
Plagiarism is probably one of the funniest acts to a true conservative. Not so funny to a liberal.
Laugh away. We know how you made it through school.