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KW4MW
07-16-2007, 04:27 PM
Hillary Clinton: Why is she hated by progressives and right-wingers alike? (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2766305.ece)Quote[/b] ]Hillary Clinton: Why is she hated by progressives and right-wingers alike?

They say she is a scheming control-freak who will stop at nothing in her bid to become the first Mrs President. And America's anti-Hillary Clinton alliance is growing by the day.
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Something called the "Hillary Conundrum" has emerged to cause deep unease inside her party while giving comfort to the Republican party, which by now should be in disarray
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. . behind the scenes, Americans are deeply worried at the prospect of having Hillary (and Bill) back in the White House. While she inspires ordinary women voters, men are not so moved and she has the highest voter-disapproval ratings of any top-tier candidate in the race. She also has a big problem with left-wing feminists.

The writer and director Nora Ephron (You've Got Mail, Sleepless in Seattle) who describes herself as a fully signed up "Hillary resister" seems to be one of them. The resisters are people "who can't stand her position on the war. Who don't trust her as far as you can spit."

They believe, says Ephron, that Hillary "will do anything to win, who believe she doesn't really take a position unless it's completely safe".
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"The truth is that Senator Clinton has a woman problem," said Anna Quindlen, a Newsweek columnist. "The fantasy was that the first woman President would be someone who would turn the whole lousy system inside out and upside down. Instead the first significant woman contender is someone who seems to have the system down to a fine art."

Jane Fonda says that Hillary is a "ventriloquist for the patriarchy with a skirt and a vagina. It may be that a feminist, progressive man would do better in the White House."
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Americans might well ask who is the real Hillary Clinton? Her potential supporters are certainly having trouble working it out. Is Hillary a liberal who has been victimised by a "vast right-wing conspiracy", or a scheming political control-freak who will stop at nothing in her bid to become the first Mrs President?
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This is the other part of the "Hillary conundrum". She is widely perceived as a ruthless campaigner. Her campaign team, which calls itself "Hillaryland", is notoriously secretive and disciplined.
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N5NPO
07-16-2007, 05:17 PM
Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ July 16 2007,09:27)]Hillary Clinton: Why is she hated by progressives and right-wingers alike? (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2766305.ece)Quote[/b] ]Hillary Clinton: Why is she hated by progressives and right-wingers alike?

They say she is a scheming control-freak who will stop at nothing in her bid to become the first Mrs President. And America's anti-Hillary Clinton alliance is growing by the day.
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Something called the "Hillary Conundrum" has emerged to cause deep unease inside her party while giving comfort to the Republican party, which by now should be in disarray
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. . behind the scenes, Americans are deeply worried at the prospect of having Hillary (and Bill) back in the White House. While she inspires ordinary women voters, men are not so moved and she has the highest voter-disapproval ratings of any top-tier candidate in the race. She also has a big problem with left-wing feminists.

The writer and director Nora Ephron (You've Got Mail, Sleepless in Seattle) who describes herself as a fully signed up "Hillary resister" seems to be one of them. The resisters are people "who can't stand her position on the war. Who don't trust her as far as you can spit."

They believe, says Ephron, that Hillary "will do anything to win, who believe she doesn't really take a position unless it's completely safe".
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"The truth is that Senator Clinton has a woman problem," said Anna Quindlen, a Newsweek columnist. "The fantasy was that the first woman President would be someone who would turn the whole lousy system inside out and upside down. Instead the first significant woman contender is someone who seems to have the system down to a fine art."

Jane Fonda says that Hillary is a "ventriloquist for the patriarchy with a skirt and a vagina. It may be that a feminist, progressive man would do better in the White House."
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Americans might well ask who is the real Hillary Clinton? Her potential supporters are certainly having trouble working it out. Is Hillary a liberal who has been victimised by a "vast right-wing conspiracy", or a scheming political control-freak who will stop at nothing in her bid to become the first Mrs President?
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This is the other part of the "Hillary conundrum". She is widely perceived as a ruthless campaigner. Her campaign team, which calls itself "Hillaryland", is notoriously secretive and disciplined.
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More right wing drivel from the biased neo-KON controlled media.
No surprise here.

Haliburton is behind this.

al2i
07-16-2007, 05:22 PM
Remember how those wealthy movie stars were going to leave the country if Bush was elected? Some of us may not have a choice if Hillary is elected -- at least not if we wish to have medical freedom.

w5klb
07-16-2007, 06:16 PM
Quote[/b] ]They believe, says Ephron, that Hillary "will do anything to win, who believe she doesn't really take a position unless it's completely safe".

Political expediency: Hallmark of a liberal carpetbagger.

Quote[/b] ]Haliburton is behind this.

I'm jealous. The voices don't talk to me.

n2ize
07-16-2007, 06:22 PM
Quote[/b] (al2i @ July 16 2007,10:22)]Remember how those wealthy movie stars were going to leave the country if Bush was elected? #Some of us may not have a choice if Hillary is elected -- at least not if we wish to have medical freedom.
"Medical freedom" is not the issue. It's about getting access to health care when your sick. At least a national health care plan would put it within the reach of more Americans. Somewhere between ultra conservatism, ultra liberalism, and ultra libertarianism there is a place called normality.

n2ize
07-16-2007, 06:24 PM
A while back I posted an article that appeared in "The nation" that gave an in depth insight into why Hillary is so mistrusted by both liberals and conservatives. Wonder if anyone remembers reading it.

K0RGR
07-16-2007, 06:36 PM
After reviewing the platforms of the Democratic candidates, I determined that the only two who have come out for a single-payer medical insurance system are Dennis Kucinich and Hillary.

Kucinich is the only one who has put up a detailed plan. I fear Hillary's will turn out to be too much like the proposal they tried to pass in the 90's - totally dependent on forcing American businesses to pay for most of it, also the plan Obama is putting forth , and something I do oppose. The only way we'll ever get medical reform is to take employers out of the picture. It would be a great deal for businesses and for employees, who would no longer be totally dependent on their employers. You want freedom? That would be FREEDOM!

I guess you prefer your boss holding a gun to your head as opposed to the tax man doing it. At least the tax man has to follow some laws.

Since Kucinich will get eliminated in the Iowa caucuses, Hillary may be the only hope we have for medical care (shudder).

W2ILP
07-16-2007, 06:40 PM
I think that the main reason to dislike Hillary is that we want a change. The Bushes and the Clintons have had their chance to rule, surely there must be someone else entirely unrelated to past presidents who can be our next president.

In saying this, I want you to know that I am liberal about some subjects and conservative about others. The past presidents have done some good and they have all done a lot of bad. We need to, as I said, give someone else a chance to do some good and maybe make some new bad mistakes...but we need a change in the executive branch of our government for sure.

w2ilp (Impeach Lying President)...and his vice NOW!...and maybe give someone else a chance sooner!

K3XR
07-17-2007, 01:27 PM
Gotta love the LIBS, trying to deney being LIBS by claiming they are Progressives. #I guess they picked that up from all the car insurance ads on TV. Of course that goes along with the change to the democrat party instead of the democratic party. #Only the LIBS think they can change things by changing words.