BRITS HAVE THEIR OWN LIB MEDIA

[K3XR]

Why does the Brit government fund this version of ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,PBS,NPR etc.. Does the country have a death wish??

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/07/how_the_bbc_inspires_british_t.html)

[n2ize]

We gotta stop thoise dope smoking liberal hippie radicals that run our biggest corporations. Rupert Murdoch's running around in his tye dyed shirt and love beads singing "Give Peace a Chance" while subverting the nation with his ultra left wing liberal programming. Gotta stop these Libs and bring in Nazi Radio.

[K6UEY]

Well finally some one has noted that the precious BBC funded by the good people of Britain is biased.
I read some months back where the BBC admitted to their bias,but if anything it went unnoticed here in the US.

I can for years remember being admonished by the so called informed snobs that they did not use the American news sources but instead got the real Truth from monitoring the BBC News.

At the prospect of getting at the truth I listened for a short period to the BBC while monitoring other sources at the same time. It was rather obvious to me ,the Leaning Tower of Pisa would be jealous of the left tilt presented by the BBC. So it was surprising to read they actually admitted they have been biased for quite a period of time.

Yesterday being the 4th of July,I am reminded of the good choice our fore farthers made to turn down the status of being another Colony under the Crown.

East is East, and West is West, and never the twains shall meet!!
Different strokes for different folks!!

[G0GQK]

The correspondents are correct in their analysis of the BBC, perhaps almost all of their staff are university graduates and are very left wing in their views. These people do not in any represent the views of the mass of the British people, but neither does the government !

Perhaps you may recall a number of years ago when a BBC correspondent spoke on an early morning news bulletin about the governments attitude during the early days of the attack on Iraq The government was seething with anger which resulted in the correspondent losing his job, as did the Director General of the BBC. This has now proved that the BBC is now a mouthpiece of the British government, and to most of its staff this is quite acceptable. The days when the BBC could broadcast unbiased views have now gone, but nevertheless there are a number of radio and TV news interviewers who give the members of the government a good grilling when they refuse to answer questions without wasting time spewing garbage.

To answer your question, no, the people of this country do not have a death wish, but we have had quite a number of spineless government political leaders of both wings in the last 40 years.

The British people have been against further political involvement with the EU for the last 30 years but during this time, both Labour and Conservative governments have consistently lied to the British people and they are doing it right now.

The EU Constitution was rejected by the French and Dutch people two years ago but the EU is still insisting that it be enforced on the governents but they say it is a different constitution, but it isn't and the british voters want a Refendum. The governent will not allow a referendum because they know that the Constitution will be rejected by 75% of the British people.

This is the latest reason why the British people do not want to be controlled by the EU. A directive has been given to the British government and all its departments, including the BBC, that there will be no mention that the terrorism we are experiencing is connected in any way to Moslems. Words such as Islam, Moslem terrorists must not be used because this will cause problems with people of the Moslem faith. They even suggest that this is racist, when in fact religion is not a race.
If there is one thing which will fire up British people is being told by unelected members of the EU that we must not call terrorists, who are moslems dedicated to killing and maiming people in Britain, Moslem terrorists.

If a Referendum were to be allowed perhaps as many as 65% of people would wish Britain to withdraw from the EU because this country is one of the principal providers of cash to the 27 EU members together with Germany and France, but unlike those two countries we don't get much back. We have serious flooding in Britain, when this happened in Germany some years ago money was provided to assist the problem areas. There has been no such assistance to Britain yet and I don't expect that any assistance will be provided by our EU govenment political partners in Europe.

G0GQK

[n6hcm]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ July 05 2007,13:41)]Why does the Brit government fund this version of ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,PBS,NPR etc.. Does the country have a death wish??
AFAIK the BBC domestic service isn't taxpayer-funded (although you are supposed to buy a licence if you're a TV/radio user) ... the BBC World Service, otoh, is taxpayer-funded through the Foreign and Commonwealth office of HM Government.

[G8ADD]

So many things come to mind when reading this thread that it is really quite difficult to know where to start!

Should I start with how amusing it is to watch the incomprehensions that accrue from the fact that terms like "liberal" and "socialist" which make so many Americans foam at the mouth have very different meanings over here?

Should I point out that the BBC is not the only information source over here, so that any major leanings would quickly become apparent to us? In fact the only bias that is readily apparent to me when I compare Aunty Beeb with, say, CNN, is that News sources (including the Beeb) over here are not as blinkered in their attitude to the long saga of confrontation between Israel and the Arab peoples, they fully report the savage and undiscriminating reprisals taken by the Israelis. Does this aid the rise of Moslem extremism? Possibly, but would it really be better to try and hide the truth?

G0GQK is consistently extreme in his views, but although his words about the EU are really off topic, he is right when he describes the antipathy that the majority over here feel towards the EU. Not so much towards the trading aspect of the EU, which really we have done rather well out of, but the creeping political interference from faceless unelected and unaccountable Eurocrats. This is off topic because in fact the Beeb do rather a good job of reporting the problems with the EU and the antipathy of the majority. In parenthesis, I would enquire WHY the fact that so many of the staff of the BBC being university graduates should have been mentioned in this way? Is it the opinion of G0GQK that being university educated makes you left-wing? I would be careful in making any such assertion because he is really then saying that being above average in education and intelligence leads you to espouse the left-wing world view, and if you are above average in education and intelligence, then surely your world-view is more likely to be valid than if you were average or less in education or intelligence?

K3XR, American prejudices make it difficult for you to come to a just appreciation of the place of the Beeb in British Society, and to the different flavour to such words as Liberal, Conservative, Socialist etc over here, just as my Brit prejudices make it difficult for me sometimes when trying to understand American politics. I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you (although I appreciate your concern!) because such matters tend to be self-correcting in the long term.

73

Brian G8ADD

[n2ize]

There are different meanings to the words liberal, socialist, conservative, etc. here too. For example, among right wing conservative extremists a "far left liberal" is a "mainstream middle of the road democrat". To most normal people a democrat does not mean liberal at all.

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (G8ADD @ July 06 2007,02:30)]So many things come to mind when reading this thread that it is really quite difficult to know where to start!

Should I start with how amusing it is to watch the incomprehensions that accrue from the fact that terms like "liberal" and "socialist" which make so many Americans foam at the mouth have very different meanings over here?

Should I point out that the BBC is not the only information source over here, so that any major leanings would quickly become apparent to us? In fact the only bias that is readily apparent to me when I compare Aunty Beeb with, say, CNN, is that News sources (including the Beeb) over here are not as blinkered in their attitude to the long saga of confrontation between Israel and the Arab peoples, they fully report the savage and undiscriminating reprisals taken by the Israelis. Does this aid the rise of Moslem extremism? Possibly, but would it really be better to try and hide the truth?

G0GQK is consistently extreme in his views, but although his words about the EU are really off topic, he is right when he describes the antipathy that the majority over here feel towards the EU. Not so much towards the trading aspect of the EU, which really we have done rather well out of, but the creeping political interference from faceless unelected and unaccountable Eurocrats. This is off topic because in fact the Beeb do rather a good job of reporting the problems with the EU and the antipathy of the majority. In parenthesis, I would enquire WHY the fact that so many of the staff of the BBC being university graduates should have been mentioned in this way? Is it the opinion of G0GQK that being university educated makes you left-wing? I would be careful in making any such assertion because he is really then saying that being above average in education and intelligence leads you to espouse the left-wing world view, and if you are above average in education and intelligence, then surely your world-view is more likely to be valid than if you were average or less in education or intelligence?

K3XR, American prejudices make it difficult for you to come to a just appreciation of the place of the Beeb in British Society, and to the different flavour to such words as Liberal, Conservative, Socialist etc over here, just as my Brit prejudices make it difficult for me sometimes when trying to understand American politics. I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you (although I appreciate your concern!) because such matters tend to be self-correcting in the long term.

73

Brian G8ADD
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would enquire WHY the fact that so many of the staff of the BBC being university graduates should have been mentioned in this way? Is it the opinion of G0GQK that being university educated makes you left-wing? I would be careful in making any such assertion because he is really then saying that being above average in education and intelligence leads you to espouse the left-wing world view, and if you are above average in education and intelligence, then surely your world-view is more likely to be valid than if you were average or less in education or intelligence?


Far right conservatives generally hate higher education. They have an extreme disdain for academics. #Yes, they will at times espouse the virtues of what they call "higher education". But to them "higher education" means a specific field or trade as it's focal point. #So if you are going to be an engineer learning that is specific to the engineering discipline is fine. What they hate is the idea of the well rounded academic "liberal arts" approach to education. In the minds of many conservatives a well rounded academic implies an extreme liberal that cannot be trusted within the frameework of their far rightist world. The well educated academic is seen as the enemy of the extreme neocon. Unfortunately this dislike for academics has befallen upon many averge everyday conservatives who are otherwise well meaning people. When the extremists keep repeating, "this that or the other thing = BAD !!" long enough people begin to accept it and take ot for granted.

[W4HAY]

This from inside the BBC...
Quote[/b] ]I know this from experience: Toward the end of my 25 years as a BBC reporter I began writing a series of internal memos, first to senior news executives and finally to the BBC's Board of Governors, detailing an entrenched liberal-left bias that seriously undermined the BBC's claim to be an impartial news provider.

Referring to well-documented incidents, I posed several questions: Why did we keep hiring established left-wing pundits, but never any journalists with right-wing credentials? Why did we use "right wing" as a yah-boo term to mean "anything we don't like"? Why did we never give U.S. actions the benefit of the doubt--in contrast to our strenuous efforts to be "fair" to Britain's avowed enemies?

The reaction was a studied indifference from everyone up the command chain. In a way, the BBC's attitude makes sense. The most important asset for any news organization is credibility. It is the mortal fear of "brand contamination" which in the past persuaded BBC executives to keep a lid on any discussion of the organization's failure to live up to its obligations to fairness and impartiality.

And there has been wide-scale failure. On every issue of public policy and political controversy, the BBC's instincts are to side with the progressive, liberal wing of politics...
The Beeb's Bias (http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110010282)

Several years ago, Bernard Goldberg began writing books exposing the bias and distortions of CBS, shortly before Dan Rather's shenanigans blew up in the network's face. Goldberg's books make for very interesting reading. The liberal media has been attempting damage control ever since. You'll see a lot of it on this forum.

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We began listening to the BBC during WWII on Dad's old Philco. Later it became a staple with my early regen sets, along with Radio Moscow and numerous other European stations.

But later, many of the old stations went of the air, and BBC lost it's objectivity. Passport To World Band Radio has been on their case for years.

Today my favored SWLing is to the former Soviet satellites. They are well aware of the threat awakening of the Russian Bear poses to their future, a threat 'Old Europe' mostly chooses to ignore. Almost nightly I'll drop in on Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, the Czech and Slovak Republics, and many more interesting and informative broadcasters.

Select a country and do a search of that country with the word 'radio' and you'll find their websites, times and frequencies.