Muslims attacking Eskimos

[NC5P]

Nobody is left alone (http://alfin2200.blogspot.com/2007/07/muslims-attacking-eskimos-what-is-their.html)

Note that the perpertrators are given "information" rather than deportation. Another article says they are also attacking gays on the streets.

[WF7A]

Sounds like we ought to send the Greenlanders some Promicin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promicin) to take care of the problem.

On a completely different note, if you want to see a great documentary--in fact, the very first film documentary--about Eskimos, rent Nanook of the North.

[NA4BH]

Why would anybody attack the people that make such great ice cream pies? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[N5NPO]

DO they make Klondike Bars too???
Maybe the Muslems think that is what they have to do for a Klondike bar.




I am N5NPO and I approve this TROLL. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[WA3WDR]

Uh, this is something to check at Snopes. #I checked there, but I found nothing about Arabs and Greenland Inuit. #Evidently Inuit do inhabit Greenland.

I would think that Arabs would be clashing with all Danes because of the pictures of Mohammed as a terrorist in cartoon caractures in a Danish newspaper. #Why Inuit people would be singled out, I don't know. #As I say, this should be conformed - it comes across as some blog BS, although it might be true.

There are stories about people in Muslim areas being harrassed because, I guess, they aren't Islamic enough. #It's not enough for some people to tell their own kids how to behave, some are evidently going to tell everybody else what to do also. #But of course Muslims are not the only people to be accused of that kind of behavior.

Muslims don't push me around, that's all I know. Maybe there are some who have a problem with Inuit. I'd say they'd better get over it.

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (WA3WDR @ July 04 2007,20:19)]Uh, this is something to check at Snopes. #I checked there, but I found nothing about Arabs and Greenland Inuit. #Evidently Inuit do inhabit Greenland.

I would think that Arabs would be clashing with all Danes because of the pictures of Mohammed as a terrorist in cartoon caractures in a Danish newspaper. #Why Inuit people would be singled out, I don't know. #As I say, this should be conformed - it comes across as some blog BS, although it might be true.

There are stories about people in Muslim areas being harrassed because, I guess, they aren't Islamic enough. #It's not enough for some people to tell their own kids how to behave, they are evidently going to tell everybody else what to do also. #But of course Muslims are not the only people to be accused of that kind of behavior.
These people are extremely intolerant of anyone who does not share their precise views. But it's no surprise. they lead miserable depressing lives where any type of regreation or fun is forbidden. Guess if we all lived as they do we'd be bitter too.

[KC2ESD]

The Eskimos should be Hunting those who bully them instead of seals.

[ka5piu]

Hello.

This story is about Muslims and/or Arabs and Inuit people fighting.
Next, an issue of “It baffles me that parents don’t react to this. I complained to a mother in my apartment building after her son had assaulted me, but she slammed the door shut in my face,”
And, "And we all know they are evil, Zionist Crusaders with a long history of colonial aggression in the Middle East, right?".
So, is this a case of Arab kids fighting?
If so, the issue has nothing to do with Islam as such.
Some kids form gangs and get into trouble, that is the case in any society.
And, "Zionist"?

[w4wtf]

Quote[/b] (WA3WDR @ July 04 2007,20:19)]Uh, this is something to check at Snopes. #I checked there, but I found nothing about Arabs and Greenland Inuit. #Evidently Inuit do inhabit Greenland.

I would think that Arabs would be clashing with all Danes because of the pictures of Mohammed as a terrorist in cartoon caractures in a Danish newspaper. #Why Inuit people would be singled out, I don't know. #As I say, this should be conformed - it comes across as some blog BS, although it might be true.

There are stories about people in Muslim areas being harrassed because, I guess, they aren't Islamic enough. #It's not enough for some people to tell their own kids how to behave, some are evidently going to tell everybody else what to do also. #But of course Muslims are not the only people to be accused of that kind of behavior.

Muslims don't push me around, that's all I know. #Maybe there are some who have a problem with Inuit. #I'd say they'd better get over it.
They pretty much have a problem with everyone but those just like them.

It may be just because you see them more, but from both press accounts and firsthand accounts from those I know who live there it seems that the muslim communities in western Europe are growing more and more demanding of special privleges and less and less tolerant of the very society that they originally fled thier countries for.

The interesting situation with Islam and Denmark has been reported for many years now, well before the cartoon fiasco. (http://www.danielpipes.org/article/450)

[KC2ESD]

If the Muslims don't cool off the hatred soon the rest of the world is going to turn on them like a rabid pitbull. The World Has Had enough of the terror BS from Islam. I know there are Islamic spies right here in QRZ and I know their calls. Cool off the terror or face the Punishment that will surely come.

[kd7bbo]

muslims,
Look in your koran under chapter 9 v11 (I Think) something about a mighty eagel raining death and destruction on the land of alla. The eagle is the national symbol for the USA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (kd7bbo @ July 04 2007,23:41)]muslims,
Look in your koran under chapter 9 v11 (I Think) something about a mighty eagel raining death and destruction on the land of alla. The eagle is the national symbol for the USA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
WTF? I tried online tools and could not find any such reference. Appears to be total bravo sierra.

Searchable English Koran (http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/)

[KL1ZB]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ July 04 2007,04:36)]Quote[/b] (kd7bbo @ July 04 2007,23:41)]muslims,
Look in your koran under chapter 9 v11 (I Think) something about a mighty eagel raining death and destruction on the land of alla. The eagle is the national symbol for the USA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
WTF? #I tried online tools and could not find any such reference. #Appears to be total bravo sierra.

Searchable English Koran (http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/)
I don't know about this al2i?...

Can you explain why they're so few Inuit people left here in Alaska? It must be Muslims that are killing them. However I didn't hear anyone mention it at the last AFN meeting. I will have to investigate this further. #

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[K2WH]

Question:

When does Jihad become a mental problem?

K2WH

[w4wtf]

Quote[/b] (kd7bbo @ July 05 2007,00:41)]muslims,
Look in your koran under chapter 9 v11 (I Think) something about a mighty eagel raining death and destruction on the land of alla. The eagle is the national symbol for the USA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Are you gullible enough to believe every fowarded email like this that shows up in your inbox?

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 05 2007,00:13)]If the Muslims don't cool off the hatred soon the rest of the world is going to turn on them like a rabid pitbull. The World Has Had enough of the terror BS from Islam. I know there are Islamic spies right here in QRZ and I know their calls. Cool off the terror or face the Punishment that will surely come.
What more do you want peaceful Muslims to do?

Honestly.

I want a real, honest answer from you.

The majority of Muslims are not the problem.

They are also out of breath from condemning attacks and terrorism, which usually falls on deaf ears because it's not sensational news.

Profiling is not the answer, because quite simply it is racist, since you cannot tell who is a Muslim versus who is a Sikh versus who is an Indian, and in some cases who is a Jew. #Sikhs in particular, have been the target of a lot of anti-terror BS because the white man thinks they look weird.

The white man keeps calling for profiling because it doesn't bother him. He's not being profiled. #

I bet if white people started blowing up buildings (oh wait, they did) and sending bombs to people (oh wait, they did) and they started profiling white people, everyone would cry about the loss of their civil rights. #Heck, people are crying about having to get a passport to go to Canada.

Well BS. #I am not a f***ing terrorist. #Don't profile me. #I don't give a damn about what the white man thinks can solve terror. #DONT PROFILE ME!!!

[w4wtf]

Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ July 05 2007,08:58)]Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 05 2007,00:13)]If the Muslims don't cool off the hatred soon the rest of the world is going to turn on them like a rabid pitbull. The World Has Had enough of the terror BS from Islam. I know there are Islamic spies right here in QRZ and I know their calls. Cool off the terror or face the Punishment that will surely come.
What more do you want peaceful Muslims to do?

Honestly.

I want a real, honest answer from you.

The majority of Muslims are not the problem.

They are also out of breath from condemning attacks and terrorism, which usually falls on deaf ears because it's not sensational news.

Profiling is not the answer, because quite simply it is racist, since you cannot tell who is a Muslim versus who is a Sikh versus who is an Indian, and in some cases who is a Jew. #Sikhs in particular, have been the target of a lot of anti-terror BS because the white man thinks they look weird.

The white man keeps calling for profiling because it doesn't bother him. He's not being profiled. #

I bet if white people started blowing up buildings (oh wait, they did) and sending bombs to people (oh wait, they did) and they started profiling white people, everyone would cry about the loss of their civil rights. #Heck, people are crying about having to get a passport to go to Canada.

Well BS. #I am not a f***ing terrorist. #Don't profile me. #I don't give a damn about what the white man thinks can solve terror. #DONT PROFILE ME!!!
What more do I want the majority of muslims to do?

If they wanted, they could root most of these guys out from within the ranks of thier religion.

These guys in England did not network and find each other in a vacum. They did not by chance happen to all encounter like minded individuals who all wanted to do the same thing and never express those views to someone who disagreed.

The same goes for the bunch in NJ.

They had to have expressed those same views and desires to others within the community. Networking, in any form, is not 100% effective. You don't encounter only 100% like minded individuals when you search for them. I can go to a hamfest searching for Motorola fans, and in my search will probably encounter some, and probably encounter some who are not.

It is the apathy with the islamic community that causes the resentment. At most there is lip service, no more, to rooting out these guys.... if that. Mosques have banned people for speaking against it...yet people still worship at them? Why?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?

What will it take for the muslim community to clean itself of these guys from the inside? Obviously, worldwide, the desire is not there now. In fact, is anything, the communities in Europe are growing more radical and more tolerant of the extremists.


BTW, I do agree about profiling based upon RACE, as race and religion are not the same. I met a few Chechens who wanted to kill me in the name of Islam who are as white as Bush.

[w8znx]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 04 2007,22:13)]I know there are Islamic spies right here in QRZ and I know their calls.
oh my you have found me out

please
please

don't tell the FBI

Islamic Jihad Bob

[kl7aj]

Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ July 05 2007,08:58)]Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 05 2007,00:13)]If the Muslims don't cool off the hatred soon the rest of the world is going to turn on them like a rabid pitbull. The World Has Had enough of the terror BS from Islam. I know there are Islamic spies right here in QRZ and I know their calls. Cool off the terror or face the Punishment that will surely come.
What more do you want peaceful Muslims to do?

Honestly.

I want a real, honest answer from you.

The majority of Muslims are not the problem.

They are also out of breath from condemning attacks and terrorism, which usually falls on deaf ears because it's not sensational news.

Profiling is not the answer, because quite simply it is racist, since you cannot tell who is a Muslim versus who is a Sikh versus who is an Indian, and in some cases who is a Jew. #Sikhs in particular, have been the target of a lot of anti-terror BS because the white man thinks they look weird.

The white man keeps calling for profiling because it doesn't bother him. He's not being profiled. #

I bet if white people started blowing up buildings (oh wait, they did) and sending bombs to people (oh wait, they did) and they started profiling white people, everyone would cry about the loss of their civil rights. #Heck, people are crying about having to get a passport to go to Canada.

Well BS. #I am not a f***ing terrorist. #Don't profile me. #I don't give a damn about what the white man thinks can solve terror. #DONT PROFILE ME!!!
Hi RJ:

I think what you need to do is ignore the ignorant. Of course you aren't responsible for the acts of other Muslims, just as I am not responsible for every white man who owned slaves. Just strive for excellence yourself, (as anyone who's been on QRZ for long knows you already have).
As far as "official" profiling is concerned, it's like insurance, where everything's based on statistics, which never takes into account the exceptional....on either end. So, while it's absurd to assume that every Muslim is a terrorist, it's statistically valid that most (successful) terrorists are Muslims, and that's all the government has to go on. Of course, it doesn't take into account that 99.999% of all airline flights are NOT blown up by terrorist acts or that 99.99% of us have never even been remotely involved in a terrorist act. On the other hand, systematic genocide, (which I imagine is quite terrorizing to the recipients thereof) takes place on a daily basis in Burma (where I've been five different times), which never makes it to the news, and is not even remotely Islamic in origin.

In the end, every man is accountable only for his own actions. I think most of us here realize that.

Eric

[KD6NIG]

Quote[/b] (kd7bbo @ July 05 2007,00:41)]muslims,
Look in your koran under chapter 9 v11 (I Think) something about a mighty eagel raining death and destruction on the land of alla. The eagle is the national symbol for the USA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
I really hate being a spelling nazi......

But, seriously, if you're going to advise people to check out their Koran, perhaps you should at least spell the name of the god they worship properly. Allah.

I'll ignore the rest of them. But people aren't going to take you seriously if you misspell the name of the god they worship.

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ July 05 2007,11:25)]What more do I want the majority of muslims to do?

If they wanted, they could root most of these guys out from within the ranks of thier religion.
Good Muslims are not associated with these guys. In the case of the Fort Dix terror six, they didn't know they were involved.

Quote[/b] ]
These guys in England did not network and find each other in a vacum. They did not by chance happen to all encounter like minded individuals who all wanted to do the same thing and never express those views to someone who disagreed.

Good Muslims are not associated with these people.

Quote[/b] ]The same goes for the bunch in NJ.

How can you root out terror when you yourself don't know your friend, your Muslim brother is a terrorist?

Quote[/b] ]They had to have expressed those same views and desires to others within the community. Networking, in any form, is not 100% effective. You don't encounter only 100% like minded individuals when you search for them. I can go to a hamfest searching for Motorola fans, and in my search will probably encounter some, and probably encounter some who are not.

It is the apathy with the islamic community that causes the resentment. At most there is lip service, no more, to rooting out these guys.... if that. Mosques have banned people for speaking against it...yet people still worship at them? Why?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?

That is a a lie.

There is no apathy. Muslims continually denounce terror, yet no one hears about it in the media.

Quote[/b] ]What will it take for the muslim community to clean itself of these guys from the inside? Obviously, worldwide, the desire is not there now. In fact, is anything, the communities in Europe are growing more radical and more tolerant of the extremists.

Lies lies and more lies.

The Muslim community doesn't "clean out" themselves because they don't know who is a terrorist.

The bad mosques will hide their terrorists, and the good mosques will not know who is a terrorist.


Quote[/b] ]BTW, I do agree about profiling based upon RACE, as race and religion are not the same. I met a few Chechens who wanted to kill me in the name of Islam who are as white as Bush.

How can you tell someone is a Muslim by looking at them? The answer is that you don't. You look at "arab looking" guys, who could be East Indian, Sikh, or any other race. That's not right, and I will resist every attempt to profile based on how someone looks, because a lot of innocent people will be caught up in the dragnet.

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ July 05 2007,11:48)]Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ July 05 2007,08:58)]Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 05 2007,00:13)]If the Muslims don't cool off the hatred soon the rest of the world is going to turn on them like a rabid pitbull. The World Has Had enough of the terror BS from Islam. I know there are Islamic spies right here in QRZ and I know their calls. Cool off the terror or face the Punishment that will surely come.
What more do you want peaceful Muslims to do?

Honestly.

I want a real, honest answer from you.

The majority of Muslims are not the problem.

They are also out of breath from condemning attacks and terrorism, which usually falls on deaf ears because it's not sensational news.

Profiling is not the answer, because quite simply it is racist, since you cannot tell who is a Muslim versus who is a Sikh versus who is an Indian, and in some cases who is a Jew. #Sikhs in particular, have been the target of a lot of anti-terror BS because the white man thinks they look weird.

The white man keeps calling for profiling because it doesn't bother him. He's not being profiled. #

I bet if white people started blowing up buildings (oh wait, they did) and sending bombs to people (oh wait, they did) and they started profiling white people, everyone would cry about the loss of their civil rights. #Heck, people are crying about having to get a passport to go to Canada.

Well BS. #I am not a f***ing terrorist. #Don't profile me. #I don't give a damn about what the white man thinks can solve terror. #DONT PROFILE ME!!!
Hi RJ:

# I think what you need to do is ignore the ignorant. #Of course you aren't responsible for the acts of other Muslims, just as I am not responsible for every white man who owned slaves. #Just strive for excellence yourself, (as anyone who's been on QRZ for long knows you already have). #
# #As far as "official" profiling is concerned, it's like insurance, where everything's based on statistics, which never takes into account the exceptional....on either end. #So, while it's absurd to assume that every Muslim is a terrorist, it's statistically valid that most (successful) terrorists are Muslims, and that's all the government has to go on. #Of course, it doesn't take into account that 99.999% of all airline flights are NOT blown up by terrorist acts or that 99.99% of us have never even been remotely involved in a terrorist act. #On the other hand, systematic genocide, (which I imagine is quite terrorizing to the recipients thereof) takes place on a daily basis in Burma (where I've been five different times), which never makes it to the news, and is not even remotely Islamic in origin.

In the end, every man is accountable only for his own actions. #I think most of us here realize that.

Eric
I could agree to an extent with profiling people based on their association with a terrorist group, or if their mosque/church/synagogue is associated with a terrorist group.

The Fort Dix plot was foiled with good old fashioned detective work, i.e. a sting operation, not Patriot Act style profiling and just telling people "white people/black people one line, arabs or arab looking another, and arabs/muslims get body cavity searched while whites/blacks get waved on through."

It is impossible to tell what religion someone is by looking at their skin color our outside appearances. And it's silly to go and ask everyone, "are you a Muslim?" because a terrorist will say No.

What ends up happening is that they profile people based on skin color, whether or not they wear a turban etc.

Sikhs have been caught up in this and have not only become the target of random hate crimes, but the target of official enforcement as well. I can't remember how many times I've heard the NYPD and the NYC transit police on the scanner saying, "Suspicious man wearing a turban on the subway platform." Jeez, he's not a terrorist, he probably just owns the cab that got you to work this morning, or the deli that sold you your lunch.

Like I said, good old fashioned police work, not profiling, catches terrorists.

[w4wtf]

You can claim that nodody outside these guys knew what they were up to, and how they felt.

You can claim the same with those from the Ft Dix plot.

If so, then how does a group of like minded individuals find each other without expressing thier stances and feelings to anyone else?

Sorry, its not possible. They can pretty easily limit those they approach to muslims, but you cannot tell me that just by chance, in every single one of these groups, they just all found each other by blind luck.

They talked. They talked to each other, and along the path to where they were and to finding each other they talked to others as well.

You can call it a lie all you want. It is a basic tenet of networking, just like business networking or social networking. You have to involve x number of people to find the few you really need or want.

They expressed these views to others along the path they followed. That everyone else claims they "had no idea" is no suprise, those around them want to protect themselves. After something like this gets exposed do you honestly expect anyone to say "Ohh yeah, no suprise.... he was always talking about killing infidels?.

[kg4kww]

According to the democrats this is ok

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ July 05 2007,12:45)]You can claim that nodody outside these guys knew what they were up to, and how they felt.

You can claim the same with those from the Ft Dix plot.

If so, then how does a group of like minded individuals find each other without expressing thier stances and feelings to anyone else?

Sorry, its not possible. They can pretty easily limit those they approach to muslims, but you cannot tell me that just by chance, in every single one of these groups, they just all found each other by blind luck.

They talked. They talked to each other, and along the path to where they were and to finding each other they talked to others as well.

You can call it a lie all you want. It is a basic tenet of networking, just like business networking or social networking. You have to involve x number of people to find the few you really need or want.

They expressed these views to others along the path they followed. That everyone else claims they "had no idea" is no suprise, those around them want to protect themselves. After something like this gets exposed do you honestly expect anyone to say "Ohh yeah, no suprise.... he was always talking about killing infidels?.
WTF, it is very much possible.

Terrorism succeeds because it's done in secret.

You are making a very broad assumption - that it's done in the mosque and that everyone in the mosque knows.

The fact is that the imam doesn't go and make an announcement that, "who's up for jihad next Sunday?" #

For the most part, those involved in terrorist acts have known ties to terrorist groups or are related by blood. #

They meet and share ideas by joining terrorist groups, not worship in mosques.

[w4wtf]

Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ July 05 2007,10:56)]Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ July 05 2007,12:45)]You can claim that nodody outside these guys knew what they were up to, and how they felt.

You can claim the same with those from the Ft Dix plot.

If so, then how does a group of like minded individuals find each other without expressing thier stances and feelings to anyone else?

Sorry, its not possible. They can pretty easily limit those they approach to muslims, but you cannot tell me that just by chance, in every single one of these groups, they just all found each other by blind luck.

They talked. They talked to each other, and along the path to where they were and to finding each other they talked to others as well.

You can call it a lie all you want. It is a basic tenet of networking, just like business networking or social networking. You have to involve x number of people to find the few you really need or want.

They expressed these views to others along the path they followed. That everyone else claims they "had no idea" is no suprise, those around them want to protect themselves. After something like this gets exposed do you honestly expect anyone to say "Ohh yeah, no suprise.... he was always talking about killing infidels?.
WTF, it is very much possible.

Terrorism succeeds because it's done in secret.

You are making a very broad assumption - that it's done in the mosque and that everyone in the mosque knows.

The fact is that the imam doesn't go and make an announcement that, "who's up for jihad next Sunday?" #

For the most part, those involved in terrorist acts have known ties to terrorist groups or are related by blood. #

They meet and share ideas in terrorist groups, not mosques.
True, and I said the muslim community, not just mosques.

It could be in mosques. It may very well not be.

But those they approached would be members of the islamic community. Be it inside or outside the mosques.

And it is apathy within that community that allows these individuals to network and form groups without anyone else they encountered along the way speaking up.

Why is it that way? Could be many things. But you don't form a group from within any community without a few more knowing, and until those few more start speaking up and doing all they can to rid thier community of these guys, the problem will remain.

That is the apathy I speak of.

"I don't want to be involved" and ignoring the signs you see or hear is just as bad as saying "use my home to hide".

[N2RJ]

You can absolutely form a group without people knowing.

That's the whole point. These guys do things in secret.

Maybe you've been brainwashed by the guy who has "talent on loan from god" who seems to think that fixing this problem is as simple as profiling muslims, and having muslims rat out terrorists within their ranks.

That is an oversimplification. The terrorists do things in secret, keep their groups a secret and then use the element of surprise to spring their attack.

It is only when they make a stupid mistake such as handing a video of their activities to a store clerk that they get ratted out.

Then you have to remember that even if there are people in the know, they may have been threatened with their lives or serious property damage.

I wish I knew the solution. I can tell you that it's not as simple as you think it is.

[w4wtf]

Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ July 05 2007,11:12)]You can absolutely form a group without people knowing.

That's the whole point. #These guys do things in secret.

Maybe you've been brainwashed by the guy who has "talent on loan from god" who seems to think that fixing this problem is as simple as profiling muslims, and having muslims rat out terrorists within their ranks.

That is an oversimplification. #The terrorists do things in secret, keep their groups a secret and then use the element of surprise to spring their attack.

It is only when they make a stupid mistake such as handing a video of their activities to a store clerk that they get ratted out.
Yes, but they don't just "find"each other before the plotting begins. Yes, they plan and act in secret, but they can't recruit in secret. 8 guys who all want to wage jihad do not just speak that opinion to each other by magic and have never expressed that opinion or equally as radical opinions to nobody else.

It is this exression and sharing of radical ideas that is the weak link, the best point to stop these groups from forming and going any further, or at least gets an idea of who to keep an eye on. It is at this point that the muslim community could indeed step up and help fight these guys...in fact they are the only ones who can at that level.Quote[/b] ]
Then you have to remember that even if there are people in the know, they may have been threatened with their lives or serious property damage.
Waaah.

If you know someone is plotting something like this, and keep silent because of a threat, you are just as guilty the act as they are.

You are also a spineless coward who doesn't deserve one once of the freedom you enjoy in this country.Quote[/b] ]
I wish I knew the solution. #I can tell you that it's not as simple as you think it is.
No, nothing is simple.

But thats one large part of a complex solution.

The first step to fixing anything is from within.

[KC2ESD]

My two cents: Profiling is a GOOD tool for Law enforcment to use to catch the bad guys (and Girls). Its not the only tool to used but it does work. Sorry for not being PC but I just want to stop the bad guys before they act at any and all costs.

Rick "The Punisher" KC2ESD

[G0GQK]

The time has arrived when all the nations of the world who have moslem immigrants as part of their population have to be very aware that that there is a world wide moslem political agenda far more serious to governments than the Communist threat which began during the 1930's

As has been shown by the three Moslem terrorist incidents in London and Glasgow, and the death of 52 innocent people in London two years ago, these people have no mercy. There is a very serious lust to kill and maim people who are not moslems, and as is seen in Iraq and other moslem countries they are quite prepared to kill themselves as well as those they despise, which, it has to be accepted is everyone in any country in the world.
There has to be more severe punishment for people who will, on accepting orders from some middle east religious zealot, be quite prepared, as the medics in British hospitals were, to kill and destroy the British way of life and replace it with Moslem Sharia law.

The Russian leader Putin warned many years ago that this would happen. remember the massacre of the school children in Beslan, Russia, when over 350 children and their teachers were killed in cold blood by Moslem terrorists after being held hostage for days. We are in a very serious situation which requires the most severe punishment for those who wish to destroy us.

G0GQK

[N3ATS]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 05 2007,00:13)]If the Muslims don't cool off the hatred soon the rest of the world is going to turn on them like a rabid pitbull. The World Has Had enough of the terror BS from Islam. I know there are Islamic spies right here in QRZ and I know their calls. Cool off the terror or face the Punishment that will surely come.


LMAO!!! Better hock your Focus and enlist OM! LMAO!!!

[NI3B]

Here's my thoughts....

1. Islam, like all religions, is based on terror, brutality, destruction, death. (No, I am not an atheist)

2. The Islam community as a whole has never denounced a single act of terrorism in the name of Islam. They may say that they are against terrorism but they won't denounce it.

3. On 9/11/01 the TV was full of middle easterns celebrating in the streets. So, there are more than just a handful of extremists out there.

4. Hatred is learned.

5. There is just enough religion in the world to make men hate but not enough to make them love. (Not an original thought of mine)

6. There's enough hatred in the world today. Why have it here on QRZ.com? Aren't we here to enjoy our hobby? (Yes, I know the internet isn't amateur radio)

7. Why do we need a sign that is shown in my avatar???

8. Now would be a good time for the second coming!

Be happy. Get off the computer and go outside and enjoy yourself!

These opinions are mine.

Best,
Brian

[al2n]

Quote[/b] (kd7bbo @ July 05 2007,00:41)]muslims,
Look in your koran under chapter 9 v11 (I Think) something about a mighty eagel raining death and destruction on the land of alla. The eagle is the national symbol for the USA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
A quick visit to snopes.com and you will see that this is yet another internet rumor.

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Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 05 2007,15:43)]My two cents: Profiling is a GOOD tool for Law enforcment to use to catch the bad guys (and Girls). Its not the only tool to used but it does work. Sorry for not being PC but I just want to stop the bad guys before they act at any and all costs.

Rick "The Punisher" KC2ESD
Rick,

Can you describe how I can identify a Muslim? Not all the men wear heavy beards, and not all the women cover their faces.

One you identify a Muslim, how do you determine if the person is a good Muslim, with no ill feelings towards us, or a bad Muslim, who only dreams of jihad?

What if I stumble on a Christian dressed as a Muslim, maybe for a play, or a bit part in a movie?

What is the proper course of action I should take when I'm pretty sure I have cornered and captured a bad Muslim?

As the "Punisher", you certainly have easy answers for my questions, right?

[KC2ESD]

Quote[/b] ]One you identify a Muslim, how do you determine if the person is a good Muslim, with no ill feelings towards us, or a bad Muslim, who only dreams of jihad?


Easy, you pull them over, search their car/truck for bombs, guns, and papers. If found, cuff and stuff, if not found send them on their way and give them a coupon for food for the stop.

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Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 05 2007,20:03)]Quote[/b] ]One you identify a Muslim, how do you determine if the person is a good Muslim, with no ill feelings towards us, or a bad Muslim, who only dreams of jihad?


Easy, you pull them over, search their car/truck for bombs, guns, and papers. If found, cuff and stuff, if not found send them on their way and give them a coupon for food for the stop.
Wouldn't that be a violation of their civil rights?

I heard that the Focus is a popular car for those who live modestly, like some Muslims.

If you drove through Richmond, would you mind being stopped, searched, patted on the head, handed a coupon for a cheeseburger, and sent on your way?

I'm going to encourage my police friends to stop all males driving a Focus who have red hair.

You just can't be too careful when hunting evildoers.

[w7lpn]

Quote[/b] (kd7bbo @ July 05 2007,00:41)]muslims,
Look in your koran under chapter 9 v11 (I Think) something about a mighty eagel raining death and destruction on the land of alla. The eagle is the national symbol for the USA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
Look it up on snopes. It's BS! Not true no matter how much it should be. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KC2ESD]

Quote[/b] ]I'm going to encourage my police friends to stop all males driving a Focus who have red hair.


I'll drive down there but in the summer I shave my head. As for as getting stopped by the cops and having them check out my IC-2100, my TH-75A, and my VX-2R I will by happy to get a coupon for a Cheese Burger. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Now how about this: If the terror strikes were being done by Northern Irish people in England and the USA and I was stopped because I have Red Hair I would say to the cops "go a head and look, I'm a Ham, here is my license, I work with the County EOC and stand up for the USA." They check, nothing found, and send my on my way. If they made me late for work I would make them write a note so I could be excused for being late for Work. Yes check points and Profile stops suck but in this day and age its a nessary evil. I wish the war on terror was over too but that day will come when the terroists surrender not the USA. I want the USA to win at all costs.

73 de Rick "The Punisher" KC2ESD

[ka5piu]

Hello.

Think about this for a minute.
If members of a Christian group were planning to bomb an abortion clinic would they make the plans known to the church at large? of course not.
Now, take a group, any group, that was planning an atttack, there would be a measure of secrecy.
What kind of car would a bunch drive that was planning an attck?
One attack on the WTC was done with a Ryder rental truck.
The Ryder truck was picked due to the fact that it was a common truck for the WTC, it fit in.
When the attacks on the airliners happened, shoes were polished, pants and shirts were clean and presssed.
Everything said businessman.
Everything just fit in with the norm.
The attacks were planned outside the US, that is quite clear.
So, what would one look for?
You would have to be able to spot somebody who came into the country and was from a given region.
I walk into the Mosque and in short order figure out who is with what group.
I hang with the Wahhabi Saudi bunch.
In Ramadan in Houston, at the central meeting, there may be 100,000 Muslims.
It takes us perhaps 3 hours to all meet, with no prior plans no less.
And you can do this?
As was said, all Orientals look alike, except to an Oriental.
A terrorist would not go to such a meeting, at least they have not in the past.

[VO1GXG]

Greenland should be a Canadian territory ! . None the less . Put up a big concrete wall .

[N2MWE]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a121/DoctorKO/29et5kg.jpg

[kc2orw]

You know what's really funny is this topic started with a link to a blog that has a link to another blog. So being this is from two blogs with no links to any authentic source one has to wonder is this real, fake, or pure propaganda?

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 05 2007,15:43)]My two cents: Profiling is a GOOD tool for Law enforcment to use to catch the bad guys (and Girls). Its not the only tool to used but it does work. Sorry for not being PC but I just want to stop the bad guys before they act at any and all costs.

Rick "The Punisher" KC2ESD
OK Punisher, how do you think most people would profile you
the minute they see your mug?

[KC2ESD]

Quote[/b] ]OK Punisher, how do you think most people would profile you
the minute they see your mug?

Tim McVeigh

[N7RJD]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ July 05 2007,03:52)]According to the democrats this is ok
Ah yes, I was wondering if it was going to be the gays or the Democrats you slammed on this issue.

The way I hear it there is a national organization of undertakers financing this thing in the background. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[G8ADD]

On consideration I would say that there is merit in both the viewpoints of W4WTF and N2RJ.

It seems most unlikely that there is any overt pro-terrorist activity. Terrorists would be enrolled in careful stages. This is possible because there is a proportion of Muslims that are frankly disaffected - most of them would not dream of becoming activists, but they have a distaste for aspects of our civilisation. They would talk of this amongst themselves and thus reveal themselves as the people to be further tested by those seeking recruits. They would be fed propaganda designed to increase their disaffected state and make them burn with resentment. This would mean that those not found suitable for enrolment as terrorists would still aid the terrorists by speaking of their resentment and spreading it to more people. Those found suitable would be gradually encouraged to cut off ties with their milder friends and relations. Meanwhile they would be prepared by frequent references to the heavenly rewards of glorious martyrdom and the duty of true believers to combat the enemies of Islam. There is nothing new in this, it seems to be what happens.

There is an additional danger in that the Islamist glorification of martyrdom and its heavenly rewards can lead to isolated individuals and groups going it alone and indulging in DIY terrorism, something a lot harder to catch than activism fomented from outside. Islam has no Popes or Archbishops, its weak hierarchy seems to aid such "unofficial" activism.

I would think that it would be very difficult in a Muslim community to distinguish between those who are zealous in their adherence to Islam and contemptuous and resentful of the Infidels but not supporters of terrorism and those who are moving towards the espousal of the terrorists cause.

73

Brian G8ADD

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Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 06 2007,03:47)]Quote[/b] ]OK Punisher, how do you think most people would profile you
the minute they see your mug?

Tim McVeigh
Dude, I gotta give you credit for having a great sense of humor. If you're ever in Richmond, look me up, and I'll buy you an ice cold beer or 6! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[N5NPO]

I would have said Tim's Uncle, but close enough...

[K3XR]

Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ July 04 2007,21:20)]Hello.

This story is about Muslims and/or Arabs and Inuit people fighting.
Next, an issue of “It baffles me that parents don’t react to this. I complained to a mother in my apartment building after her son had assaulted me, but she slammed the door shut in my face,”
And, "And we all know they are evil, Zionist Crusaders with a long history of colonial aggression in the Middle East, right?".
So, is this a case of Arab kids fighting?
If so, the issue has nothing to do with Islam as such.
Some kids form gangs and get into trouble, that is the case in any society.
And, "Zionist"?
Does this have anything to do with Islam??

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=29056

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Quote[/b] (K3XR @ July 06 2007,08:24)]Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ July 04 2007,21:20)]Hello.

This story is about Muslims and/or Arabs and Inuit people fighting.
Next, an issue of “It baffles me that parents don’t react to this. I complained to a mother in my apartment building after her son had assaulted me, but she slammed the door shut in my face,”
And, "And we all know they are evil, Zionist Crusaders with a long history of colonial aggression in the Middle East, right?".
So, is this a case of Arab kids fighting?
If so, the issue has nothing to do with Islam as such.
Some kids form gangs and get into trouble, that is the case in any society.
And, "Zionist"?
Does this have anything to do with Islam??

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=29056
Front Page Rag? Naw - that's a Neocon thing.

[w4glm]

Such a peaceful religion, YEAH RITE.

Show me................Mac

I got something you need, and it's not muhammed

.....Mac

[K3XR]

As only the New York Slimes could tell it.

http://www.townhall.com/columni....ts=true (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=see_no_muslims_the_ny_times_i gnores_the_obvious&ns=JoelMowbray&dt=07/06/2007&page=full&comments=true)

[kc2orw]

Interesting point though is that I still see no valid confirmation of Muslims attacking Inuits in Greenland?
All I saw was a blog with a link to another blog that had no supporting reference links?

Oops: found the link but naturally I can't read it to establish what is fact and what is not....
http://www.document.no/2007/06/opplysningskampanje_om_gronlan.html

[K3XR]

Inconvenient truth for muslims.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/07/post_53.html)

[ka5piu]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ July 07 2007,17:35)]Inconvenient truth for muslims.

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpa....rl=http (http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/07/post_53.html)
Hello.

Yes, about half of all Arab Muslims dislike Jews.
I see no connection with that and the comedy caper that happened in the UK.
The fact that it was this poorly thought out and executed plan shows how much support the Islamic community gave to it.
The other example was in New Jersey.
This is a small number of people who have no idea of what they are doing, and by their own admissions had not been involved in Islam as required.
There is much more than just the 5 daily prayers.
For me, breakfast is but the start, finding stuff that has no pork can be a challange if out.
But even before that, finding the direction to pray and meeting all the requirements, on a schedule that starts before the sun comes up, including doing abolition.
This is a very complex religion, going as far as having one learn an entire language.
But, Islam itself has no issues with the Jews, this is an Arab thing, and why Muslims and Jews get along in the US.
Most Saudi nationals dislike Jews.
Most Pakistani nationals could care less.
Both countries are Sunni Muslims for the most part.

[K3XR]

What do you know about the Muslim Brotherhood??

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=29058

[ka5piu]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ July 07 2007,20:52)]What do you know about the Muslim Brotherhood??

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=29058
Hello.

I follow Islam from the view of religion.
In the Koran it refers to only the 3 holy places.
2 are in Present day Saudi Arabia and one is in Palestine.
I do feel that the US military needs to be careful not to upset the followers of Islam but that having them in Saudi Arabia is, provided they are contained, not much of a problem.
Remember that Israel has no US military facilities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces
When in Saudi Arabia, US military policies cause great trouble.
Perhaps a military officer decides he needs to meet with me.
What should happen is that he go to his bosses who in turn contact my counterparts who communicate this down the line.
At that point I would be sent to meet the Sheikh who would arrange the meeting.
Or, I can be kept in the US and stay in constant contact.
At that point the US military sees no need to meet with me.
Why? it is human nature, people want their say in government.
Even Mexico does not allow foreign troops except for the ones protecting the embassies, consulates do not count.
No Mexican consulate has even one soldier in the US, not that it would really matter.
Not that long ago, the entire Mexican security detachement went to a cinco de mayo celebration where everybody got totally drunk, so drunk in fact that nobody noticed that the bus with their equipment had left.
The bus was recovered a while later but the weapons were never found.
For months the Mexican embassy had guards with no weapons to speak of.
But, no matter the people, they want to be in charge.
That is why we have wars.

[w2amr]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ July 05 2007,12:43)]My two cents: Profiling is a GOOD tool for Law enforcment to use to catch the bad guys (and Girls). Its not the only tool to used but it does work. Sorry for not being PC but I just want to stop the bad guys before they act at any and all costs.

Rick "The Punisher" KC2ESD
Maybe they should start gathering up people with red hair.

[w2amr]

Tell them to invade Sweden. I hear they have VMD's. Vepons of muss destruction.

[K3XR]

Who do you trust??


http://www.latimes.com/news....et=true (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-dalrymple8jul08,1,5134178,print.story?ctrack=3&cset=true)

[w2amr]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ July 08 2007,11:01)]Who do you trust??


http://www.latimes.com/news....et=true (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-dalrymple8jul08,1,5134178,print.story?ctrack=3&cset=true)
The story you requested is available only to registered members.

Wanna try to make it a little less work danno?

[K3XR]

Quote[/b] (w2amr @ July 08 2007,12:05)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ July 08 2007,11:01)]Who do you trust??


http://www.latimes.com/news....et=true (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-dalrymple8jul08,1,5134178,print.story?ctrack=3&cset=true)
The story you requested is available only to registered members.

Wanna try to make it a little less work danno?
Link works perfect, for me, every time.

[w2amr]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ July 09 2007,04:26)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ July 08 2007,12:05)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ July 08 2007,11:01)]Who do you trust??


http://www.latimes.com/news....et=true (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-op-dalrymple8jul08,1,5134178,print.story?ctrack=3&cset=true)
The story you requested is available only to registered members.

Wanna try to make it a little less work danno?
Link works perfect, for me, every time.
That's caused you signed up. I don't want to sign up.