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k3wrv
06-23-2007, 12:48 PM
In the real world, I'm a lawyer. I've been trying to send files to one of our Judges in PDF and TXT format. The Judge tells me that she can open the PDF files, but can't print them, and can't deal with ascii files at all. The Court has a fairly large IT staff. Is it possible that they've disabled printing under Acrobat and all functionality for plain old ascii?
I suspect my leg is being pulled and that she wants to force me to send files in M$ Wierd format, but I'm an open source kind of guy and I think she's being a bully.
If the IT guys disabled these formats, why would they do so? Certainly not security, right?
de Bob
n1ydx
06-23-2007, 03:35 PM
Howdy
First, the judge has to have acrobat reader on her/his computer. Quite possibly he/she doesn't and therefore the problem.
Acrobat reader is free and there are many other free programs that will open a pdf file.
Of course, it could not be that the author has put in security restrictions against modifying or printing, heaven forbid.
Yahoo has multiple sources when you search on ' printing pdf files '
Also, his/her IT SECTION might not know about right clicking and picking ' OPEN WITH ' and then show the program to open the file with.
But then again, maybe he/she is miffed at you.
N1YDX - Lee
Normally with Adobe .pdf files, I find that you have to print through the .pdf toolbar. If I try to right click, the machine hiccups or will ignore the command to print.
OTOH, there are a number of conversion programs available that will convert to and/or from .pdf files. It might help if she gets it in a format that she's more familiar with, like Word etc. There are a lot of people who are not that familiar with computers around, so sometimes allowances have to be made. Then again Lee (YDX) might have a point.
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ka5piu
06-24-2007, 05:12 AM
Hello.
Depending on the rights set for the document, it may not allow printing whatsoever.
I have had some files that I could read on the local machine but could not save to another machine once downloaded or printed.
.pdf files can, sometimes, be a real pain to deal with.
KD6NIG
06-24-2007, 05:56 AM
You can have that issue with PDF's if they are created with a newer program than what they are using also. Unsupported versions can cause a problem also.
Also, depending on the computer, sometimes it can take a while to open a file, but they think that its frozen. Giving it a minute will often yield the PDF suddenly opening.
Sometimes if its loading in the browser it takes longer than if you save the file, open the PDF viewer, then open the file from there. May be another angle to try.
n2ize
06-24-2007, 07:55 AM
Quote[/b] (k3wrv @ June 23 2007,05:48)]In the real world, I'm a lawyer. #I've been trying to send files to one of our Judges in PDF and TXT format. #The Judge tells me that she can open the PDF files, but can't print them, and can't deal with ascii files at all. #The Court has a fairly large IT staff. #Is it possible that they've disabled printing under Acrobat and all functionality for plain old ascii?
I suspect my leg is being pulled and that she wants to force me to send files in M$ Wierd format, but I'm an open source kind of guy and I think she's being a bully.
If the IT guys disabled these formats, why would they do so? #Certainly not security, right?
# # de Bob
What do you mean she cannot deal with ASCII files ? You mean plain .txt files ? What's the exact problem ?
k3wrv
06-24-2007, 11:51 PM
She says she can't handle plain, vanilla ascii (.txt!) files. Says they won't read under Win$ and "They're SO DOS" and that that's all been disabled by the IT guys!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
And she seems to be fairly computer literate, too. What part of Windoze don't I understand? She even says that M$ Word won't open ASCII (what is it, 7 bits?)
KC7UP
06-25-2007, 12:54 AM
As far as the ascii files they can be converted and read in Word Perfect. Wp converts as to WP format. Its my understanding that most legals use word perfect.
Curt
K8ERV
06-25-2007, 04:22 PM
Another way to print is to do a "save as" which puts it into WordPad as I recall, and print from there. I use mostly PDF and WordPad, don't even have WORD loaded.
Tom K8ERV Montrose Co.
kl7aj
06-25-2007, 04:35 PM
Try SAVING before printing. For some reason Word documents will print fine directly from memory, but PDF files sometimes dont. Especially if this is a PDF embedded browser. Save the PDS "as", reopen and try printing again.
eric
WA7KKP
06-25-2007, 07:07 PM
There is always US Mail -- certified, in your profession.
Gary WA7KKP
KE7IPY
06-26-2007, 06:17 PM
I used to work for a consulting company and we did a lot of work for another company that prepared documents for legal proceedings. In Oregon, the legal standard for electronic documents introduced as evidence is an uncompressed TIFF file. We got paid a lot of money to convert all sorts of document types to uncompressed TIFFs. I believe (not sure about this) that we could have used compressed TIFF files that use a binary compression scheme, like ZIP (as opposed to an image compression scheme like JPEG).
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