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KC2KFC
06-21-2007, 06:14 PM
Quote[/b] ]MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties.
Linky (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113485)

n2ize
06-21-2007, 06:22 PM
Donating money to the democratic party is a "left wing cause" ??

KB1KIX
06-21-2007, 06:23 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 21 2007,14:22)]Donating money to the democratic party is a "left wing cause" ??
Yes.

And since you're willing to put your money where your journalistic mouth is.... it shows bias.

Absolutely.

Jonathan

KC2KFC
06-21-2007, 06:42 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 21 2007,11:22)]Donating money to the democratic party is a "left wing cause" ??
If MSNBC is reporting it, then it must be true.

KI4PJW
06-21-2007, 06:51 PM
Shows me that there is practically no difference in Left vs Right. Seeing as how the Establishment media parrots everything without real journalism.

KB1KIX
06-21-2007, 06:56 PM
Absolutely.

Bernard Goldberg's book "Bias" is a great read on this topic.

Even if you have a short attention span, it's hilarious, yet sad to read.

I especially like the reasons many looting scenes didn't get reported in Haiti!

Jonathan

N5NPO
06-22-2007, 11:14 AM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 21 2007,11:22)]Donating money to the democratic party is a "left wing cause" ??
Is donating money to the republican party a "right wing cause"?
(I would say it is a waste of hard earned money because they have moved too far left as of late....)

K3XR
06-22-2007, 01:05 PM
What LIB media bias???
http://www.nypost.com/php....rl=http (http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/06222007/postopinion/editorials/they_give_at_the_office__too_editorials_.htm)

W4HAY
06-22-2007, 02:55 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 21 2007,18:22)]Donating money to the democratic party is a "left wing cause" ??
Well, well, well! Guess who just woke up from a 50-year nap in la-la land?

nx6d
06-23-2007, 02:50 PM
Quote[/b] ]For starters, MSNBC found fewer than 150 journalists who have made political contributions. There were more than 116,000 working journalists in America as of 2002. The 144 who made contributions not only constitute a tiny fraction of American journalists, they cannot be considered a representative sample of the whole. Indeed, we know that they are un-representative of all journalists: They made reported campaign contributions, and their colleagues did not.



Let's not get all excited, Kevin (http://mediamatters.org/items/200706220012?f=h_top)

Bernard Goldberg's "Bias" is a load of crap. Any THINKING person can see that if they are truly paying attention.

Dave NX6D
Tulelake, CA

n2ize
06-23-2007, 03:21 PM
Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ June 22 2007,04:14)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 21 2007,11:22)]Donating money to the democratic party is a "left wing cause" ??
Is donating money to the republican party a "right wing cause"?
(I would say it is a waste of hard earned money because they have moved too far left as of late....)
Boy oh boy... So, since we have moved so far over to the uber extreme ultra right then I guess it's safe to say that Americas founding fathers were a bunch of radical left wing liberal commie pinko hippie freaks.

n2nh
06-23-2007, 03:25 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 23 2007,11:21)]Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ June 22 2007,04:14)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 21 2007,11:22)]Donating money to the democratic party is a "left wing cause" ??
Is donating money to the republican party a "right wing cause"?
(I would say it is a waste of hard earned money because they have moved too far left as of late....)
Boy oh boy... So, since we have moved so far over to the uber extreme ultra right then I guess it's safe to say that Americas founding fathers were a bunch of radical left wing liberal commie pinko hippie freaks.
Yep. Just like Jesus. Who's Godless? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

kb2vxa
06-23-2007, 10:02 PM
Left wing, right wing, pork. Who says pigs don't fly?

NC5P
06-23-2007, 10:18 PM
Syndicated columnists and large market anchors make large amounts. The rest often don't even make enough to own a home. I would suspect most don't make enough money to give above the reportable limit ($1000?). Many journalists don't even work full time, but cover stories in their community for a larger regional outlet. I knew a news director at a radio station who also ran the projectors at the local theater. That doesn't mean they don't work in campaigns as volunteers or support candidates in other ways.

WA3WDR
06-23-2007, 11:40 PM
Well, I'd suggest that maybe poeple in the news business, who see the news every day, might be better able to make a rational decision about where to donate their money than people who listen to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc.

N1LAF
06-24-2007, 12:02 AM
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ June 23 2007,07:50)]Quote[/b] ]For starters, MSNBC found fewer than 150 journalists who have made political contributions. There were more than 116,000 working journalists in America as of 2002. The 144 who made contributions not only constitute a tiny fraction of American journalists, they cannot be considered a representative sample of the whole. Indeed, we know that they are un-representative of all journalists: They made reported campaign contributions, and their colleagues did not.



Let's not get all excited, Kevin (http://mediamatters.org/items/200706220012?f=h_top)

Bernard Goldberg's "Bias" is a load of crap. Any THINKING person can see that if they are truly paying attention.

Dave NX6D
Tulelake, CA
One of the dumbest post I have seen in a while.

What I found:
Quote[/b] ]Bernard Goldberg's "Bias" is a load of crap. Any THINKING person can see that if they are truly paying attention.Contains no information, makes a judgment with NOTHING to back it up, then attempts to intimidate the reader by saying if you believe anything in the book you must not be a thinking person. Dave's (NX6D) comment is summarily dismissed.

I followed the link provided here, because I do listen to all sides, unlike our 'open' minded liberal friends, and this is who media matters are:
Quote[/b] ]Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501©(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.

Using the website www.**********.org as the principal vehicle for disseminating research and information, Media Matters posts rapid-response items as well as longer research and analytic reports documenting conservative misinformation throughout the media. Additionally, Media Matters works daily to notify activists, journalists, pundits, and the general public about instances of misinformation, providing them with the resources to rebut false claims and to take direct action against offending media institutions.


Hardly an objective source. They have the right to be biased, and to influence people. Just like talk radio.

Problem right away that there is no discussion on how the journalists were polled by MSNBC. Lets leave that problem aside. The sampling is unrepresentative? Who are they trying to fool?

The first simple fact its nobody's business who journalists donate to. They have no obligation to tell us. Second fact, deny that you donate, again, privacy issue prevails here. Third, does it really matter? There is no journalistic ethics standards, and there is no law that says journalists have to be unbiased. Back during the time of our founding fathers, newspapers were typically mouthpieces for political causes/parties. Any student of American History knows this.

Quote[/b] ]Bernard Goldberg's book "Bias" is a great read on this topic. It is, except I have the tape version.

NC5P
06-24-2007, 01:36 AM
Quote[/b] ]The first simple fact its nobody's business who journalists donate to. They have no obligation to tell us. Second fact, deny that you donate, again, privacy issue prevails here.

If it's below the reportable limit that is true. If they give over the limit, by law it must be publically disclosed. The laws vary from state to state and local governments. Here I believe it is $1000. The local paper shows contributions to the mayor, for example. The police chief, fire chief, etc. give around $5000 each election to "buy their jobs". It's amusing as land developers often give money to each of the leading candidates to insure their influence.

I suspect the quoted source used contribution disclosure data, which is quite skewed due to the "membership fee" of this list being rather high.

n2nh
06-24-2007, 04:55 AM
Quote[/b] (kb2vxa @ June 23 2007,18:02)]Left wing, right wing, pork. Who says pigs don't fly?
http://i19.tinypic.com/5xe85k0.gif

N5NPO
06-24-2007, 11:51 AM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 23 2007,08:21)]Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ June 22 2007,04:14)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 21 2007,11:22)]Donating money to the democratic party is a "left wing cause" ??
Is donating money to the republican party a "right wing cause"?
(I would say it is a waste of hard earned money because they have moved too far left as of late....)
Boy oh boy... So, since we have moved so far over to the uber extreme ultra right then I guess it's safe to say that Americas founding fathers were a bunch of radical left wing liberal commie pinko hippie freaks.
Were the founders in support of poweful centralized governemenrt and high taxes?
Do you think they would be sorry that they had not thought of the income tax and it's codes that we have today?