This Planet Needs to be Destroyed

[K2WH]

Clueless mother.

I'm Depressed (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,285093,00.html)

I'm really starting to believe this entire Human experiment needs to end. I'm disgusted by this crap.

K2WH

[KI4WEJ]

The charges are a joke, manslaughter?!?!? what the.....

[WF7A]

It's manslaughter because there was no intent to kill the kid...at least that's the story for the moment.

[W4MAJ]

The only good that could come out of this is she may now be out of the gene pool. This is proof positive common sense is not something that can be learned in school.

I believe there is a special place set aside in Hell for anyone who harms a child.

[k0ews]

It is absolutely gut-wrenching to read this stuff. It makes me want to hug my kids a little tighter tonight. Funny, we make you take a test to pass school, get a driver's license, get a ham ticket, and God knows how many other things, but there is NO test for anyone who wants to parent, which in my mind is the absolute pinnacle of responsibility and importance in the world. Funny, the most important job in the world often goes to people with little or no training.
It makes me wonder if states have emergency help-lines for parents who just need some advice. It would be a great idea to have a registered nurse, or an experienced care-giver that one could call for advice on some of this stuff. To the single Mom who is quite young, and probably quite alone, this would be, I think, a very good resource. Of course, it would be one more "pork" social program, but one that I think would be worth every cent even if it only saved one life. Perhaps some states have something like that in place now. If so, I don't see it marketed well. Just a thought.

[ka5piu]

Hello.

I have no idea of what to think.
Why would a pacifer that is taped in place cause the child to die?
Now, what will it take to solve the problem?
Can we come up with something that will meet all of the requirements?
Perhaps if the pacifer were to be held on a cord, suspended by the crib, close enough for the infant to get to but out of harms way.
Some people see this as the idiots solution, I see the world filled with idiots.
The next question, did the infant die from the pacifer being taped to the child or did the act of taping the child cause injury.
The other option, something else happened and this was the aftermath.
What if the infant was crying due to prior injury?
Remember, we are not dealing with Ms. Molecular Genius here.
We are dealing with a female who thinks that the oil warning light on a car is a suggestion.
Kids do not come with warning lights, just noise makers.
And, no, the planet is fine, this may be natures way of controlling breeding.
More than once I have seen the morons of the human race with children and said "OMG! they are breeding!".

[n2ize]

What can you do ?? Some people are extremely stupid.

[al2i]

How many idiots had to die before Einstein was possible? Start with the earliest mammals. Is there a paleomathematician in the crowd?

[n2nh]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ June 21 2007,06:00)]How many idiots had to die before Einstein was possible? Start with the earliest mammals. Is there a paleomathematician in the crowd?
About 5,000 years ago. Right after the Garden of Eden.
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Okay, seriously, Issac Asimov estimated that about 30 Billion Human Being have lived since Man began walking the Earth. That was 20 years ago, so add about 2 Billion for those who have died and been born since then. But Einstein is only one of many. There's DaVinci, Newton, Aristotle, Tesla, Morse, Archimedes, Edison, Michaelangelo, Clark (,Arthur C.), Gallileo, Herschel, Sagan, and more.

Then there's Gwyneth Jones. She invented the concept of the modern Fembot.

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[kb1oev]

"The only thing I can think of is I taped the pacifier to keep it from falling out. I didn't know it would hurt him, or I wouldn't have done that,"

She doesn't even know why she taped the pacifier in the kid's mouth? What kind of drugs is she on?

My guess as to the cause of death would be suffocation. If the pacifier was taped in and the nose became clogged with mucus (tiny nostrils) then the baby would have no way to breath if it could not spit the pacifier out.

[ac4ut]

Could also be aspiration by fluids sucked into the lungs.
Either way an example of parenting at it's finest.
The sad thing is that you only hear about a small fraction of the stupidity that occurs everyday in the world.

[WA3KYY]

Quote[/b] (k0ews @ June 20 2007,21:26)]It is absolutely gut-wrenching to read this stuff. #It makes me want to hug my kids a little tighter tonight. #Funny, we make you take a test to pass school, get a driver's license, get a ham ticket, and God knows how many other things, but there is NO test for anyone who wants to parent, which in my mind is the absolute pinnacle of responsibility and importance in the world. #Funny, the most important job in the world often goes to people with little or no training. #
It makes me wonder if states have emergency help-lines for parents who just need some advice. #It would be a great idea to have a registered nurse, or an experienced care-giver that one could call for advice on some of this stuff. #To the single Mom who is quite young, and probably quite alone, this would be, I think, a very good resource. #Of course, it would be one more "pork" social program, but one that I think would be worth every cent even if it only saved one life. #Perhaps some states have something like that in place now. #If so, I don't see it marketed well. #Just a thought.
Before about the mid-20th century, the extended family provided the necessary training and support for new parents. #Grandparents and aunts and uncles were close enough to ask for advice when needed. #Many new parents actually resided in their parents homes for several years before moving out. #When they did move, it was frequently no farther than a short walk.

Our modern, mobile society has to a large extent destroyed that model of a family. #While family may be a phone call or email away, nothing beats grandma coming over to show you how to deal with a colicy baby or exactly what behaviour in an infant means an ear infection.

While some schools include rudimentary parenting skills in health classes with the caring for an egg or bag of flour or doll for a week with a partner, that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the needs of a live infant and all that can go wrong.

It takes a village to raise a child but most of us don't live in the village any more.

73,
Mike WA3KYY

[KD6NIG]

It seems like there are a lot of people out there now who have a kid for the sake of having a kid.

And thats about it.

I haven't had any yet, and won't till I feel ready to do so. If I never feel ready (physically as well as financially) then I simply won't have any. Its not a priority to me.

But to many people, its some kind of status thing or peer pressure to have a kid. I won't have a kid for those reasons. Its part of the reason why I have a divorce on my record. Other reasons were much more sticking than the kid thing, but it was one of the things I would not bend on. She wanted a kid just because her sister was having one. I wasn't about to take our income which was pretty thin as it was and try to extend it to satisfy her need to have something because her sister was.

I see it a lot too in my current wifes friends-they have kids, but anytime they can pawn them off on a grandparent or someone else so they can go 'party' they will. My suggestion is to do all of that first-'party' yourself out, then when you're ready to sit at home, then have the child. They have the kid and then resent it because it interferes with their social life. If you want a social life, don't have a kid.

Sounds to me like this parent had something more pressing to do-maybe something on TV or whatever-and wanted to keep said kid quiet, so she did this.

I'd honestly like to know why this kid was had-and why she felt the need to do this, really. Not the news or the made up story, but the truth. You don't do this unless you have something pressing going on, or something like that. I'd really wonder about the thought process, or lack thereof.

[kl7aj]

Here's an even more depressing way of looking at it. By definition, the AVERAGE IQ is precisely 100.

Yikes!

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eric

[k0ews]

Quote[/b] (WA3KYY @ June 21 2007,09:02)]Quote[/b] (k0ews @ June 20 2007,21:26)]It is absolutely gut-wrenching to read this stuff. #It makes me want to hug my kids a little tighter tonight. #Funny, we make you take a test to pass school, get a driver's license, get a ham ticket, and God knows how many other things, but there is NO test for anyone who wants to parent, which in my mind is the absolute pinnacle of responsibility and importance in the world. #Funny, the most important job in the world often goes to people with little or no training. #
It makes me wonder if states have emergency help-lines for parents who just need some advice. #It would be a great idea to have a registered nurse, or an experienced care-giver that one could call for advice on some of this stuff. #To the single Mom who is quite young, and probably quite alone, this would be, I think, a very good resource. #Of course, it would be one more "pork" social program, but one that I think would be worth every cent even if it only saved one life. #Perhaps some states have something like that in place now. #If so, I don't see it marketed well. #Just a thought.
Before about the mid-20th century, the extended family provided the necessary training and support for new parents. #Grandparents and aunts and uncles were close enough to ask for advice when needed. #Many new parents actually resided in their parents homes for several years before moving out. #When they did move, it was frequently no farther than a short walk.

Our modern, mobile society has to a large extent destroyed that model of a family. #While family may be a phone call or email away, nothing beats grandma coming over to show you how to deal with a colicy baby or exactly what behaviour in an infant means an ear infection.

While some schools include rudimentary parenting skills in health classes with the caring for an egg or bag of flour or doll for a week with a partner, that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the needs of a live infant and all that can go wrong.

It takes a village to raise a child but most of us don't live in the village any more.

73,
Mike WA3KYY
You make an excellent point. My wife had twins 7 years ago. While she had one baby before, twins took on a whole new definition of how to parent. Thank God we had my Mother-In-Law 7 miles down the road to come help out, give advice, and just be there when my wife was having days where she was just exhausted. In that way, we had a lot of advantages that others don't have. My wife also stayed home with ours for couple years, but when it came time to work, my Mother-In-Law became our twins' nanny and we payed her like we would pay day-care, and it made ALL of the difference in the world.
It's too bad that we would need a state agency to do what a family used to and in some cases, still does. However, as you noted, the world is vastly different now, and at least in that way, none the better.

[w4wtf]

Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ June 21 2007,08:10)]It seems like there are a lot of people out there now who have a kid for the sake of having a kid.

And thats about it.
Pop out a kid here, and the single mother instantly gets:

Free rent.
Free food.
Cash payments for several years.

For many its easier than working hard to get all that. Then they take under the table jobs cleaning homes and such, or just sue for child support, for some fun money..... all the while neglecting thier kids.

[ac4ut]

Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ June 21 2007,08:45)]Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ June 21 2007,08:10)]It seems like there are a lot of people out there now who have a kid for the sake of having a kid.

And thats about it.
Pop out a kid here, and the single mother instantly gets:

Free rent.
Free food.
Cash payments for several years.

For many its easier than working hard to get all that. Then they take under the table jobs cleaning homes and such, or just sue for child support, for some fun money..... all the while neglecting thier kids.
Peanuts! If a man pops out a kid he would get payed interviews,endorsement money,a book and movie deal.
Men just get payed more. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KD6NIG]

Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ June 21 2007,08:45)]Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ June 21 2007,08:10)]It seems like there are a lot of people out there now who have a kid for the sake of having a kid.

And thats about it.
Pop out a kid here, and the single mother instantly gets:

Free rent.
Free food.
Cash payments for several years.

For many its easier than working hard to get all that. Then they take under the table jobs cleaning homes and such, or just sue for child support, for some fun money..... all the while neglecting thier kids.
In most cases around here, unless the father is 'unknown' or somehow gets out of it, they wind up paying for it.

And usually if they indicate unknown, they encourage them to disclose http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[VO1GXG]

That is disgusting . Poor kid http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[KI4PEQ]

Because some underaged mother with sub-par parenting skills accidentally kills her infant, the rest of the planet should be destroyed?

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Are you bucking for QRZ drama queen post of the week?

[KC0VWU]

Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ June 20 2007,16:15)]Because some underaged mother with sub-par parenting skills accidentally kills her infant, the rest of the planet should be destroyed?
YES! I pray daily for a comet to slam into the planet but so far God, being cruel and angry, has said no.

[ka5piu]

Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ June 21 2007,14:15)]Wrong, wrong, wrong. Are you bucking for QRZ drama queen post of the week?
Hello.

What? no winner this week?
I thought for sure....

[GM3ZMA]

And when the planet is destroyed, think of the suffering of all the billons of poor little children!

Jim GM3ZMA

[WF7A]

If Earth is to be destroyed it's because we're blocking Marvin the Martian's view of Venus; keep an eye out for the Eludium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator.

Eric: the average IQ is 100? That explains _a lot_! Are you sure that when God handed out IQs to these ne'er-do-wells using his cosmic calculator, he didn't accidentally hit the 1/X key?

[K2WH]

Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ June 21 2007,10:15)]Because some underaged mother with sub-par parenting skills accidentally kills her infant, the rest of the planet should be destroyed?

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Are you bucking for QRZ drama queen post of the week?
Nope, just think that humans have had enough time to do the right thing. We have failed and it is getting worse. The sands of time have run out for us and no one is turning the hour glass over. Times up, bring in a new species.

K2WH

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (WF7A @ June 21 2007,16:26)]Eric: the average IQ is 100? That explains _a lot_! Are you sure that when God handed out IQs to these ne'er-do-wells using his cosmic calculator, he didn't accidentally hit the 1/X key?
Although one-half of the people are below average, the average is slipping and soon we will be predominantly above average. Oh wondrous day!

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[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ June 21 2007,15:17)]Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ June 20 2007,16:15)]Because some underaged mother with sub-par parenting skills accidentally kills her infant, the rest of the planet should be destroyed?
YES! #I pray daily for a comet to slam into the planet but so far God, being cruel and angry, has said no.
Like Garth Brooks says, I thank God for unanswered prayers.

[ka5piu]

Hello.

I remember being in East Germany and taking the IQ test, I was just a touch above average I was told.
I was brought into the US and given the Stanford test, I scored an even 140.
In my classes in Saudi Arabia, where they try to pair everybody up, I was average.
In San Antonio Texas, at Alamo Heights high, I was a genius.
It is not that I am smarter than the rest.
It is the schooling.
Nobody cares.
The students are more worried about what happens after school.
And, what is it with this homework?
If the schools would cover the material in class there would be no need for homework.
In both Saudi Arabia and East Germany there is no time for homework, training goes on at night.
In the case of East Germany there is the labor assignment and military training.
In the case of Saudi Arabia there is Hafiz and Imam training, as well as work and military training.
The one thing that was very common in both cultures, the military training, almost identical, both being based on Roman and Spartan military.
My first board game has a bunch of little stop-sign shaped pieces with military symbols.
I later got one from Saudi, almost the same size and a few more pieces, but the same game.
This is based on Nepolians army.
In both cultures I would take a weapon "home".
Would you trust a US student with a full-auto carbine or rifle?
At one time, as part of ROTC, "kids" did just that.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] ]This Planet Needs to be Destroyed

Are you planning on making an interplanetary bypass?

[k4kyv]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ June 22 2007,03:21)]Although one-half of the people are below average, the average is slipping and soon we will be predominantly above average.
That phenomenon is called the Lake Wobegon Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon_effect).

The term describes a tendency to treat people as "special" in order to boost their self-esteem, even though they may only be average or even underperforming.

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ June 21 2007,03:40)]Quote[/b] (al2i @ June 21 2007,06:00)]How many idiots had to die before Einstein was possible? #Start with the earliest mammals. #Is there a paleomathematician in the crowd?
About 5,000 years ago. #Right after the Garden of Eden.
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Okay, seriously, Issac Asimov estimated that about 30 Billion Human Being have lived since Man began walking the Earth. #That was 20 years ago, so add about 2 Billion for those who have died and been born since then. #But Einstein is only one of many. #There's DaVinci, Newton, Aristotle, Tesla, Morse, Archimedes, Edison, Michaelangelo, Clark (,Arthur C.), Gallileo, Herschel, Sagan, and more.

Then there's Gwyneth Jones. #She invented the concept of the modern Fembot.

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You're forgetting a few very imporant names... Fermat, Galois, Liebniz, Cantor and Dedekind... Of course descartes deserves mention Of course I can't not mention Euclid. Of course Diophantus. However Cauchy is among on of my favorites as a rather prolific writer.

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ June 21 2007,21:34)]Quote[/b] (al2i @ June 22 2007,03:21)]Although one-half of the people are below average, the average is slipping and soon we will be predominantly above average.
That phenomenon is called the Lake Wobegon Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon_effect).

The term describes a tendency to treat people as "special" in order to boost their self-esteem, even though they may only be average or even underperforming.
I see it worked for ka5piu, who is a Texas genius.

That reminds me of a silly tale, probably made up, where Roosevelt was making lend-lease materials available for Stalin and asked the old dictator if there was any supplies that Russian troops needed that hadn't been considered yet. Probably in an attempt to impress Roosevelt, Stalin said that his virile troops needed as many condoms as America could produce. Roosevelt promised that the Russian troops would get condoms.

When it came time to package condoms for the Russian troops, a special batch of extra large condoms were prepared -- and labeled "Texas Medium". http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ac4ut]

The planet just needs an enima. I know better than to ask this question but love to stir it up.
Anyone want to postulate a guess as to where it would be inserted?

[kb1oev]

How about southern California. No offense to anyone from the area, but I can't stand what Hollywood and the celebreties have done to our country.

[kf6rdn]

Ok, but YOU have to hold it!

(This is coming from the state that gave us John Kerry.)

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