WHO'S IN YOUR WALLET

[K3XR]

Time for Big Government to give the "little guy" a break, get rid of some, or all, of the tax on fuel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=56260 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56260)

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ June 20 2007,05:49)]Time for Big Government to give the "little guy" a break, get rid of some, or all, of the tax on fuel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=56260 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56260)
Yup. With no fuel tax, there will be no road maintenance. No maintenance, it will become impossible to drive on them.

End of oil problem.

73, Rob

[N2RJ]

Take away the fuel tax and put tolls based on weight.

I'm sure SUV driving neocons would love that.

[W1GUH]

Is there a difference between big oil and big government?

[NL7W]

Quote[/b] (N2RJ @ June 20 2007,07:27)]Take away the fuel tax and put tolls based on weight.

I'm sure SUV driving neocons would love that.
That's Suburbans and quad-cab pickups in Alaska -- the 4x4 Suburban is known as the Alaskan Cadillac. I drive three with a new 5.3L V-8, a older 350 cid, and a 4.3L V6.

Really, is there anything else worth driving?

It's good to live in Alaska where there are very few to no state taxes to speak of. We tax the oil traversing the trans-Alaskan pipeline, and the oil companies pass along these perceived losses to their customers on the Left Coast. We know where our bread is buttered.

Also, I plan to help our economy switch to alt fuels in my lifetime -- by driving vehicles that hasten oil consumption. There's nothing like speeding up the process!

73.

P.S. You'd be enlightened and probably mad if you know how much of the cost of each gallon of gas or fuel goes to the Feds and states. Washington State is one of the worst -- with all the Seattle libs jacking up the gas taxes. The rich techies in Redmond and surrounding Seattle communities feel guilty... the easiest way to "aleve" their pain is to pay more.

[w4wtf]

Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ June 20 2007,05:58)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ June 20 2007,05:49)]Time for Big Government to give the "little guy" a break, get rid of some, or all, of the tax on fuel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=56260 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56260)
Yup. #With no fuel tax, there will be no road maintenance. #No maintenance, it will become impossible to drive on them.

End of oil problem.

73, Rob
Do we honestly put $.62 wear and tear on our highways for every gallon of gas we burn?


I would love to see a real study done on how much of our gas tax actually goes into road maintenace and construction, and nothing else. I am willing to bet well less that 50%.

[kl7aj]

Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ June 20 2007,05:58)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ June 20 2007,05:49)]Time for Big Government to give the "little guy" a break, get rid of some, or all, of the tax on fuel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=56260 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56260)
Yup. #With no fuel tax, there will be no road maintenance. #No maintenance, it will become impossible to drive on them.

End of oil problem.

73, Rob
That's unmitigated B.S. #I live outside any state road maintenance district. #We pay PRIVATE FREE ENTERPRISE contractors DIRECTLY (i.e...no government middle men) to come out and fix our roads. I have NEVER seen a bureaucrat drive a road grader. This baloney that we need the government involved to get anything done has been shoved down our throats for so long we believe it.

[K0RGR]

Actually, Big Government needs to break up the oil oligopoly and vertical enterprises that have been created in the last 10-15 years. There are so few producers now, they can easily coordinate their prices and manipulate the supply of fuel. It's time for some very serious anti-trust work. That won't happen with the current crew in the White House - they don't understand that word, and particularly when it involves oil.

Those big fire-breathing V8's have another plus - for several years now, many of them have been built to burn E85. Every tank of E85 you buy for your Suburban, is one less tank of gasoline (even if it's 15% gas).

[N2RJ]

E85 doesn't burn as efficiently as gasoline. In fact, you pay more per mile even though gasoline costs more.

[G0GQK]

You have absolutely no reason to complain about the tax you pay for road fuel. However, if you lived in Britain you would have every reason to complain because we pay 76% tax on a gallon of fuel.
Just in case you thought perhaps I have a fat finger, I repeat 76% tax on a gallon of fuel

G0GQK

[kl7aj]

Quote[/b] (G0GQK @ June 20 2007,14:22)]You have absolutely no reason to complain about the tax you pay for road fuel. However, if you lived in Britain you would have every reason to complain because we pay 76% tax on a gallon of fuel.
Just in case you thought perhaps I have a fat finger, I repeat 76% tax on a gallon of fuel

G0GQK
Just because England's WORSE, doesn't mean it's right! The point is ANYTHING that goes through government is going to be more wasteful and inefficient. I wouldn't mind paying my next door neighbor who owns a road grader 75% of my gas bill to do the job, just as long as the government keeps their nose out.

eric

[kl7aj]

The purpose of the government is to do ONLY those things that we absolutely cannot do for ourselves. Those things are so incredibly few as to be non-existent except for a few indigents.

I can't think of a single service I get that can't be gotten from a private individual. And even if we do get it via the government...the actual work is done by individuals anyway! As I mentioned above, I've NEVER seen a politican fix a car or run a road grader.

eric

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ June 20 2007,14:46)]The purpose of the government is to do ONLY those things that we absolutely cannot do for ourselves. #Those things are so incredibly few as to be non-existent except for a few indigents.

I can't think of a single service I get that can't be gotten from a private individual. #And even if we do get it via the government...the actual work is done by individuals anyway! #As I mentioned above, I've NEVER seen a politican fix a car or run a road grader.

eric
Then lets have no government. Start with the executive branch. We don't need a president or vice president. Privatize the armed forces. We pledge alegiance to the United Corporations of America. And to the CEO's for which it stands, one big business, under contract, with stocks, investments, and injustice for all.

[kc0ukk]

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 20 2007,16:26)]Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ June 20 2007,14:46)]The purpose of the government is to do ONLY those things that we absolutely cannot do for ourselves. #Those things are so incredibly few as to be non-existent except for a few indigents.

I can't think of a single service I get that can't be gotten from a private individual. #And even if we do get it via the government...the actual work is done by individuals anyway! #As I mentioned above, I've NEVER seen a politican fix a car or run a road grader.

eric
Then lets have no government. Start with the executive branch. We don't need a president or vice president. Privatize the armed forces. We pledge alegiance to the United Corporations of America. And to the CEO's for which it stands, one big business, under contract, with stocks, investments, and injustice for all.
Let's start with the House of Representatives since only they can initiate spending measures. We can then turn on TV at laugh at the somber goons who think they are the 'World's Most Deliberative Body' as they try to 'Hep the President, jist tryin to hep the President'.

[kc0ukk]

Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ June 20 2007,11:03)]Actually, Big Government needs to break up the oil oligopoly and vertical enterprises that have been created in the last 10-15 years. There are so few producers now, they can easily coordinate their prices and manipulate the supply of fuel. It's time for some very serious anti-trust work. That won't happen with the current crew in the White House - they don't understand that word, and particularly when it involves oil.

Those big fire-breathing V8's have another plus - for several years now, many of them have been built to burn E85. Every tank of E85 you buy for your Suburban, is one less tank of gasoline (even if it's 15% gas).
The oil companies search for oil, find the oil, drill the oil wells, pump the oil, transport the oil, refine the oil, transport the oil again, build gas tations every few miles, pump the the oil into aour tanks and keep the bathrooms clean (mostly).

For this service, the oil companies make 10 cents per gallon when the pump price is $3.00 per gallon. The federal government takes just over 18 cents for every gallon, state and local governments together average another 18 cents per gallon.

For this 'service', the government provides too few, over crowded, poorly paved roads and lots of empty busses equipped with overpaid drivers who retire at 55.

Yeah, let's break up the oil companies...

[N5NPO]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ June 20 2007,08:26)]Is there a difference between big oil and big government?
Yes,
Big government does not drill for oil.
Big governement tells big oli where, when and how Big oil can look for oil to drill for.
Big governement does not pump the oil out of the ground.
Big governement tells big oil how and where it can pump oil out of the ground.
Big governement does not transport the oil from where it is drilled to where it is refined into product.
Big governemrnt tells big oil where and how the oil that big oil has pumped out of the ground can be refined into product.
Big government does not refine oil into product.
Big governement tells big oil where, when and how it can refine the oil into product.
Big government does not transport the product to the consumer.
Big governement tells big oil where, when and how it can transport the product to the consumer.
Big governement does not dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement tells big oil how, when and where it can dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement does not hire the people who explore for, transport, refine, deliver or dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement tells big oil how, where and when big oil can hire the people who explore for, transport, refine and dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement taxes big oil for exploring, transporting, refining, delivering and dispencing to the consumer.
Big oil passes these taxes down to the consumer in the price of the product as part of the cost of doing the exploring, transporting, refining, delivering and dispensing the product in the manner that Big government prescribes.
Big government taxes the consumer for buying the product from big oil.
Big oil does not tax the consumer for buying it's product.
Big oil profits from producing the product that the consumer buys.
Big governement does too, but at much higher rate since it bore none of the expenses of exploring for, transporting, refining, delivering or dispensing any of the product to the consumer. Sure, big government built roads, but not the pipelines, refineries, tankers, trucks, buildings, drilling rigs, pumping stations, etc. that Big oil did.

So, yes, there is a differnence between Big governement and Big oil.

[kb2vxa]

Big oily government, greased pig, catch it if you can.

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ June 20 2007,20:14)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ June 20 2007,08:26)]Is there a difference between big oil and big government?
Yes,
Big government does not drill for oil.
Big governement tells big oli where, when and how Big oil can look for oil to drill for.
Big governement does not pump the oil out of the ground.
Big governement tells big oil how and where it can pump oil out of the ground.
Big governement does not transport the oil from where it is drilled to where it is refined into product.
Big governemrnt tells big oil where and how the oil that big oil has pumped out of the ground can be refined into product.
Big government does not refine oil into product.
Big governement tells big oil where, when and how it can refine the oil into product.
Big government does not transport the product to the consumer.
Big governement tells big oil where, when and how it can transport the product to the consumer.
Big governement does not dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement tells big oil how, when and where it can dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement does not hire the people who explore for, transport, refine, deliver or dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement tells big oil how, where and when big oil can hire the people who explore for, transport, refine and dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement taxes big oil for exploring, transporting, refining, delivering and dispencing to the consumer.
Big oil passes these taxes down to the consumer in the price of the product as part of the cost of doing the exploring, transporting, refining, delivering and dispensing the product in the manner that Big government prescribes.
Big government taxes the consumer for buying the product from big oil.
Big oil does not tax the consumer for buying it's product.
Big oil profits from producing the product that the consumer buys.
Big governement does too, but at much higher rate since it bore none of the expenses of exploring for, transporting, refining, delivering or dispensing any of the product to the consumer. Sure, big government built roads, but not the pipelines, refineries, tankers, trucks, buildings, drilling rigs, pumping stations, etc. that Big oil did.

So, yes, there is a differnence between Big governement and Big oil.
Big oil fails to pay big government royalties owed.

Big oil has no problem accepting tax breaks from big government, paid for by "who"?

Big oil must make excessive profit, as they give political parties millions to be elected to big government.

Big oil and big government both have very dirty hands used to constantly pick the pockets of the sheeple.

The sheeple love big government and hate big oil.

Go figure.

[N5NPO]

Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ June 20 2007,17:35)]Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ June 20 2007,20:14)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ June 20 2007,08:26)]Is there a difference between big oil and big government?
Yes,
Big government does not drill for oil.
Big governement tells big oli where, when and how Big oil can look for oil to drill for.
Big governement does not pump the oil out of the ground.
Big governement tells big oil how and where it can pump oil out of the ground.
Big governement does not transport the oil from where it is drilled to where it is refined into product.
Big governemrnt tells big oil where and how the oil that big oil has pumped out of the ground can be refined into product.
Big government does not refine oil into product.
Big governement tells big oil where, when and how it can refine the oil into product.
Big government does not transport the product to the consumer.
Big governement tells big oil where, when and how it can transport the product to the consumer.
Big governement does not dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement tells big oil how, when and where it can dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement does not hire the people who explore for, transport, refine, deliver or dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement tells big oil how, where and when big oil can hire the people who explore for, transport, refine and dispense the refined product to the consumer.
Big governement taxes big oil for exploring, transporting, refining, delivering and dispencing to the consumer.
Big oil passes these taxes down to the consumer in the price of the product as part of the cost of doing the exploring, transporting, refining, delivering and dispensing the product in the manner that Big government prescribes.
Big government taxes the consumer for buying the product from big oil.
Big oil does not tax the consumer for buying it's product.
Big oil profits from producing the product that the consumer buys.
Big governement does too, but at much higher rate since it bore none of the expenses of exploring for, transporting, refining, delivering or dispensing any of the product to the consumer. Sure, big government built roads, but not the pipelines, refineries, tankers, trucks, buildings, drilling rigs, pumping stations, etc. that Big oil did.

So, yes, there is a differnence between Big governement and Big oil.
Big oil fails to pay big government royalties owed.

Big oil has no problem accepting tax breaks from big government, paid for by "who"?

Big oil must make excessive profit, as they give political parties millions to be elected to big government.

Big oil and big government both have very dirty hands used to constantly pick the pockets of the sheeple.

The sheeple love big government and hate big oil.

Go figure.
Tax breaks if they are paid for by anyone, it is Big Government, not the people. Big oil doesn't actually pay taxes per se, they pass whatever taxes Big Government levies on them down to the consumer as part of the cost of doing bussiness... ie, exploring for, transporting, refining, etc....

Again, (arbitrary or not) royalties to Big Government, if paid, are passed down to the consumer... Cost of doing bussiness again.

What is excessive profit? Who gets to decide, how much is too much, how much is enough? Politicians who get campagn contributions?

Sheeple do love Big (nanny) Government. "Individuals" who love liberty do not love Big (nanny) Government. At least I do not, and I consider myself a liberty loving individual!

[N3ATS]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ June 20 2007,06:49)]Time for Big Government to give the "little guy" a break, get rid of some, or all, of the tax on fuel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=56260 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56260)
You are spot on OM!

Over the last 6 years, gas has DOUBLED in price here in PA, and the worthless gut sucking pigs in government have done nothing to reduce the taxes on that gas!

Amen man, when you are right, you are right!

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] ]Tax breaks if they are paid for by anyone, it is Big Government, not the people.
I don't know how wrong you can be here. Big government has no money of its own. All of big government's money is what has been taken from the people.

[N5NPO]

Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ June 21 2007,01:57)]Quote[/b] ]Tax breaks if they are paid for by anyone, it is Big Government, not the people.
I don't know how wrong you can be here. #Big government has no money of its own. #All of big government's money is what has been taken from the people.
True, Big governement takes money (which is mostly time traded for a comodody called money) that it authorizes the federal reserve to print. Big Governement produces nothing, Big Oil does, for profit. I do not belive profit is bad. If there were no ways to make a profit for Big Oil, it would cease to exist. So would the products produced by Big Oil. You have a choice not to buy product from Big Oil. Big Governement does not allow such choice when it comes to taxes.
Have you actually looked into the fair tax MG?
http://www.fairtax.org
I belive it would benefit everyone, except the politicians who use the tax code to reward friends and punish enemies.

[NL7W]

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ June 20 2007,16:26)]Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ June 20 2007,14:46)]The purpose of the government is to do ONLY those things that we absolutely cannot do for ourselves. Those things are so incredibly few as to be non-existent except for a few indigents.

I can't think of a single service I get that can't be gotten from a private individual. And even if we do get it via the government...the actual work is done by individuals anyway! As I mentioned above, I've NEVER seen a politican fix a car or run a road grader.

eric
Then lets have no government. Start with the executive branch. We don't need a president or vice president. Privatize the armed forces. We pledge alegiance to the United Corporations of America. And to the CEO's for which it stands, one big business, under contract, with stocks, investments, and injustice for all.
How about limiting the federal government to what's stated in the Constitution, leaving the remaining "responsibilities" to the States, as intended?

We all know the main reasons for the federal government were for promoting the general welfare of ALL people within our United States. The general welfare clause, when constructed, was a LIMITING clause -- not open ended one as since the New Deal Era. It was not designed to take monies from general federal taxes and give it to select, special, or in the case of liberals, the downtrodden, poor, the disaster struck, and special interests among us, because they, in many ways pay taxes -- even if slight. Why should the poor who pay taxes have their contributions go to a select few, or a special interest, whom are usually made up of those better off? The government is NOT a charity or a some kind of weird Robin Hood.

If you doubt my assertion, look back to a favorite conservative of mine, Congressman David "Davy" Crockett, who specifically addressed this general welfare issue in the 1800's. His speech on the subject before Congress was "floor stopping."

The general welfare of our States means protecting our combined interests and it's citizens, through federally backed standing armies, a navy, and air force -- among other things.

The States, private organizations, and "We the People" should take care of our own -- show greater public responsibilities -- instead of shirking or pawning off those responsibilities to the distant, wasteful, behemoth federal government in D.C.

I've got things to do, but will further address this in about a week. I need to drive up the Alaska-Canada Highway tomorrow -- from Seattle to Anchorage -- in my new 2006 Silverado Quad-Cab.
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[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ June 20 2007,11:29)]Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ June 20 2007,05:58)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ June 20 2007,05:49)]Time for Big Government to give the "little guy" a break, get rid of some, or all, of the tax on fuel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=56260 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56260)
Yup. #With no fuel tax, there will be no road maintenance. #No maintenance, it will become impossible to drive on them.

End of oil problem.

73, Rob
That's unmitigated B.S. #I live outside any state road maintenance district. #We pay PRIVATE FREE ENTERPRISE contractors DIRECTLY (i.e...no government middle men) to come out and fix our roads. #I have NEVER seen a bureaucrat drive a road grader. #This baloney that we need the government involved to get anything done has been shoved down our throats for so long we believe it.
BS or not, it's the way things work in MOST of the country. I don't know, but I'd wager that your living outside of state road maintenance doesn't get you out of paying the gas tax, just like being childless won't get you out of paying the school tax.

You just get to pay for roads that someone else wears out, and the education someone else's kid gets. Or, are things different in AK?

I would tend to agree though, that the government is into a lot of things where it doesn't belong.

73, Rob

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ June 20 2007,11:14)]Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ June 20 2007,05:58)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ June 20 2007,05:49)]Time for Big Government to give the "little guy" a break, get rid of some, or all, of the tax on fuel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=56260 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56260)
Yup. #With no fuel tax, there will be no road maintenance. #No maintenance, it will become impossible to drive on them.

End of oil problem.

73, Rob
Do we honestly put $.62 wear and tear on our highways for every gallon of gas we burn?


I would love to see a real study done on how much of our gas tax actually goes into road maintenace and construction, and nothing else. I am willing to bet well less that 50%.
In Colorado, we pay 40 cents tax on a gallon of gas. 22 cents goes to the state highway fund, 18 cents to the feds.

Of that, 65% of the funds go to the state ($428 million last year) and the rest to counties and cities / towns based on number of miles of roads, number of registered vehicles, etc. The state road budget is just under $1 Billion a year. Of that, about half comes from the gas tax and the other half comes from other sources (mostly the federal government).

I don't know about NC, but it seems to me that here, the tax income is about the same as the road budget.

73, Rob

[w4wtf]

Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ June 22 2007,13:38)]Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ June 20 2007,11:14)]Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ June 20 2007,05:58)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ June 20 2007,05:49)]Time for Big Government to give the "little guy" a break, get rid of some, or all, of the tax on fuel.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=56260 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56260)
Yup. #With no fuel tax, there will be no road maintenance. #No maintenance, it will become impossible to drive on them.

End of oil problem.

73, Rob
Do we honestly put $.62 wear and tear on our highways for every gallon of gas we burn?


I would love to see a real study done on how much of our gas tax actually goes into road maintenace and construction, and nothing else. I am willing to bet well less that 50%.
In Colorado, we pay 40 cents tax on a gallon of gas. #22 cents goes to the state highway fund, 18 cents to the feds.

Of that, 65% of the funds go to the state ($428 million last year) and the rest to counties and cities / towns based on number of miles of roads, number of registered vehicles, etc. #The state road budget is just under $1 Billion a year. #Of that, about half comes from the gas tax and the other half comes from other sources (mostly the federal government).

I don't know about NC, but it seems to me that here, the tax income is about the same as the road budget.

73, Rob
True, but the devil is often in the details.

Look hard at what comes under the "highway" budget. Many times things totally unrelated to road maintenance are psuhed in. Tourism, beautification, schools, and a whole host of bureaucrats whose salaray and departments are funded by highway funds that really dont have anything to do with higways.

Look at the Federal tax also.

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ June 21 2007,06:53)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ June 21 2007,01:57)]Quote[/b] ]Tax breaks if they are paid for by anyone, it is Big Government, not the people.
I don't know how wrong you can be here. Big government has no money of its own. All of big government's money is what has been taken from the people.
True, Big governement takes money (which is mostly time traded for a comodody called money) that it authorizes the federal reserve to print. Big Governement produces nothing, Big Oil does, for profit. I do not belive profit is bad. If there were no ways to make a profit for Big Oil, it would cease to exist. So would the products produced by Big Oil. You have a choice not to buy product from Big Oil. Big Governement does not allow such choice when it comes to taxes.
Have you actually looked into the fair tax MG?
http://www.fairtax.org
I belive it would benefit everyone, except the politicians who use the tax code to reward friends and punish enemies.
Yes, I have, and its a very appealing concept. It's a shame none of us here have any possibility of living long enough to see it given serious consideration.
Quote[/b] ]I believe it would benefit everyone, except the politicians who use the tax code to reward friends and punish enemies.
Couldn't possibly state that any better. To politicians in general, voters are a necessary evil, an inconvenience, only to be catered to just before elections. To be otherwise ignored.

I offer the "immigration reform" bill as a perfect example. They finally figured out that if enough of them band together, then the will of the people can effectively be ignored. It is well known that we are too busy perpetuating the partisan bickering that they taught us so well that massive change is not only unlikely, but quite likely impossible.

If you were asked back in say, 2004, of the possibility that Bush, Kennedy, and Reid would unite to spearhead a bill such as this, you may have choked to death laughing.

"We, the sheeple" has never rang so true as it does today.

[N5NPO]

Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ June 22 2007,16:17)]Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ June 21 2007,06:53)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ June 21 2007,01:57)]Quote[/b] ]Tax breaks if they are paid for by anyone, it is Big Government, not the people.
I don't know how wrong you can be here. #Big government has no money of its own. #All of big government's money is what has been taken from the people.
True, Big governement takes money (which is mostly time traded for a comodody called money) that it authorizes the federal reserve to print. Big Governement produces nothing, Big Oil does, for profit. I do not belive profit is bad. If there were no ways to make a profit for Big Oil, it would cease to exist. So would the products produced by Big Oil. You have a choice not to buy product from Big Oil. Big Governement does not allow such choice when it comes to taxes.
Have you actually looked into the fair tax MG?
http://www.fairtax.org
I belive it would benefit everyone, except the politicians who use the tax code to reward friends and punish enemies.
Yes, I have, and its a very appealing concept. #It's a shame none of us here have any possibility of living long enough to see it given serious consideration.
Quote[/b] ]I believe it would benefit everyone, except the politicians who use the tax code to reward friends and punish enemies.
Couldn't possibly state that any better. #To politicians in general, voters are a necessary evil, an inconvenience, only to be catered to just before elections. #To be otherwise ignored.

I offer the "immigration reform" bill as a perfect example. #They finally figured out that if enough of them band together, then the will of the people can effectively be ignored. #It is well known that we are too busy perpetuating the partisan bickering that they taught us so well that massive change is not only unlikely, but quite likely impossible.

If you were asked back in say, 2004, of the possibility that Bush, Kennedy, and Reid would unite to spearhead a bill such as this, you may have choked to death laughing.

"We, the sheeple" has never rang so true as it does today.
Hear Hear!!!
Very well said.