Windows ME

[KC2RPP]

I have Windows ME and it crashes all the time. Why??? Whats ur experience with ME???

[KE5CAX]

I worked for tech support at a major computer manuf. YES!!!!!
UNSTABLE is a mild way to describe it.
ME was unstable due to MS trying to do too much in addon mode and not rewriting the code the way it needed to be.
When MS killed ME they killed that whole line of OS and went to the NT base.

Ed

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (KC2RPP @ June 19 2007,18:22)]I have Windows ME and it crashes all the time. Why??? Whats ur experience with ME???
It's pretty useless. The proprietary versions shipped with name brand machines were the worst. I have a copy of the full retail version that I ran on a P-III for 2-1/2 years, but there was always some nagging problem to deal with. Drivers were impossible ... you end up using 98-SE drivers for everything.

Save yourself the headache of trying to run ME.

Here, we call it "migraine enhancer"!

[K6BTM]

Quote[/b] (KC2RPP @ June 19 2007,15:22)]I have Windows ME and it crashes all the time. Why??? Whats ur experience with ME???
Worst OS MS ever put out. Basically it was a money grab by MS before they released 2K. All the ME machines that were brought to me for repair I recommended to the owner to "upgrade" to W98se. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif If the machine is to old to support XP then try a flavor of Linux. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Linux is vastly more friendly now days.
Good luck with it.

[n6hcm]

like i said earlier, the best productivity to be gotten from windows me was to be had if it was freshly loaded and not applied as an upgrade.

that said, as upgrades go it was pretty useless. a better use for hardware which ran win me would be to put any version of linux on it. i just gave away a system that was supposed to run win me but which, instead, ran linux for the past nine years. that system will almost certainly continue to run for quite some time (i took the h.d. out--4GB and starting to fail).

[KU7PDX]

The problem with Windows ME is it's really Windows 98 with a couple more features. Personally, I would suggest either switching to Windows 98 or if you're looking for something more modern, Windows 2000.

My personal experience with Windows ME is that most companies never made specific drivers for it, which leaves the Windows 98 drivers... They may or may not work :-)

[WD8OQX]

To make windoze ME, just take 98 & delete the "windows" folder. You will be left with the exact same thing...

Windows ME (as is 3.x & VISDUH) is a total POS!!!
Believe me, as a Net. Admin., I ought to know!

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[kj3n]

ME = Massive Excrement

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[AC0H]

It's a virus.

My father-in-law recently purchased a custom computer from one of his "friends" which came loaded with Me. Probably pirated. One wreck after another for the last year and he's still not ready for me to flush the drive and load XP Pro.

OK......, fine......, that cuts me out of the "help desk" call chain.

[kl7aj]

Quote[/b] (KC2RPP @ June 19 2007,15:22)]I have Windows ME and it crashes all the time. Why??? Whats ur experience with ME???
When MICROSOFT itself calls ME a piece of crap, it's probably time to listen. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[WA7KKP]

Anything Micro$oft makes is prone to crashes, virii, trojan horses, and the heartbreak of psoraisis, dandruff, and migrane headaches.

Go cold turkey and get Linux -- you'll be glad you did.

Gary WA7KKP

Open SuSE 10.2 forever!

[KC2RPP]

Heres Windows in a nutshell....

Illegal Error.....Freeze.......Blue Screen Of Death.....Crash.....Repeat

[ve3sre]

Ditto everything everyone has said about Windows ME. It was the worst M$ operating system ever made.

Right now it's unsupported as is every M$ operating system prior to Windows 2000 Pro. So whatever bugs and security problems there are in the operating system, you're stuck with.

Last year for some relatives I wiped an old PIII 750 MHz. machine that had Windows ME installed and put Kubuntu Linux on it. It works fine now.

[N7VQM]

According to all I have heard, I must have just been lucky. I used a free copy of ME I received at a MS "roadshow" for a couple years. I had no problems with it. It was better behaved than Win2K on the same hardware. Perhaps I had just the right collection of hardware.

[KC2RPP]

Quote[/b] (N7VQM @ June 22 2007,17:26)]According to all I have heard, I must have just been lucky. #I used a free copy of ME I received at a MS "roadshow" for a couple years. #I had no problems with it. #It was better behaved than Win2K on the same hardware. #Perhaps I had just the right collection of hardware.
Maybe Microsoft accidently gave u the "rare" copy of ME that doesnt crash and everything that they use to convince everyone Windows is a good OS.

[n1ydx]

I've used Microsoft Operating Systems since Windows 3.11 for Networks.

I've always been very satisfied, but then again, I work with computers and systems.

What most people don't do is ' Read The Directions or Requirements ' when they try to add programs, video or audio cards. You really can't have an operating system that is 10 or more years old and add the newest and bestest goodies on it.

I've had Windows XP Pro since it was released and only once since then did I have a problem and I caused it. But having a good backup had my system running again within 3 hours from complete death.

Don't knock any operating system when quite possibly it's YOUR lack of knowledge with it or YOUR complete disregard of 'requirements' when you stuff that newest progarm/accessory into the system.

PPPPPP - Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

Good Day

N1YDX - Lee

[ka7o]

Lee, you sound like one of the 3 MCSEs I work with daily. They're OK guys and Windows is OK as well - so long as it's working. It's when it don't work as you want that things get frustrating.

Yea, a lot of problems can and are caused by ID-10-T errors. But any 'internet ready' OS that can't be trusted to be exposed to the internet (30 minutes anyone?)... Well, there's something fundamental to be questioned there.

Yea, my MCSEs bring their workstations and servers to me, the 'Capitano of the Penguinista', when they can't get their stuff working again or want an 'affordable' solution (such as an email or web server that doesn't require buying a new box, licenses and activation). I love it when my *nix tool kit pulls thier collective bits outta the contractual fires. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif (hint: don't over sell your licenses!)

Of course, they ignore me and make fun of my 'hobbiest' OS of choice when their stuff is working. Oh well. Guess not turning the tables leaves them out of the loop.

[n6hcm]

Quote[/b] (kc7zru @ June 28 2007,23:30)]Lee, you sound like one of the 3 MCSEs I work with daily. They're OK guys and Windows is OK as well - so long as it's working. It's when it don't work as you want that things get frustrating.
of course, that could have as much to do with the MCSEs as it does with windows ... having a MCSE doesn't mean someone is any good at problem solving.

[n1ydx]

I don't like to bash anyone...but...I worked with AT&T for 4 years before I went on early Social Security and had to quit to avoid going out my monthly 'income' allotment.

I was the IT guy for 5 servers and about 180 computers running a call center in support of Dept of State and Passport Information.

I don't even have a piece of paper showing I know how to boot up 'windoz' never mind being certified by testing. I learned everything by working with folks in the IT section until they all quit or moved on and I was the only one left to run the shop. I was the OJT (on the job training) IT guy.

I do know that any operating system, whether it be Windoz, Linus or whatever is only as good and dependable as the person operating it. Without knowing your system and its capabilities, you end up paying me $50.00 an hour to find your needle in the haystack that is screwing up your operating system.

Typical session: " Man, you got 14 programs running in the background with 256 meg of RAM. Update says you have 88 updates to install .' How did all this happen ?" The answer " Duh, I don't know " but the system is soooooo slow.

Typical 3 hours of uninstalling programs, removing invalid registry entries because they deleted the folder and not the program etc etc etc.

Right now I'm testing Firefox 2.0.0.4 on a new Vista Home Premium which I'm slowly loading with all my programs from a great desktop Win XP Pro running 24/7 for the past 5 years with 1 crash ( my fault ). It's slow but I research the program and it's compatibility with Vista and so far ( fingers crossed ) the laptop is fantastic.

Working with computer in the army taught me one thing - The 6 P's " Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance "

It's time to update guy and I don't mean upgrade, I mean a full backup of your files, get a new updated machine and install programs to a 2nd hard drive just for programs and leave your drive with the operating system clean and just for the OS. So a primary drive of 20 Gig and a secondary drive of 200 or 300 gig ought to serve you for years.

I would recommend Windoze XP Pro and only Vista if you use recent software that is compatible.

N1YDX - Lee

[w0wls]

ME can be improved on. Can't remember the site right off hand but there are a few tweaks that can be performed to greatly improve lock-ups. ME is bad about leaking system resources. I use a tweaked version on the PC that I use for radio control and logging. If not taxed to hard it it a much smoother and faster running OS than XP. If you only have one system to work with than suggest you move on to XP. I would suggest just backing up to 98SE but ME has a much larger driver cab and is easier to PnP.
Good luck,
Jeff

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (n1ydx @ June 23 2007,08:31)]I've used Microsoft Operating Systems since Windows 3.11 for Networks.

I've always been very satisfied, but then again, I work with computers and systems.

What most people don't do is ' Read The Directions or Requirements ' when they try to add programs, video or audio cards. You really can't have an operating system that is 10 or more years old and add the newest and bestest goodies on it.

I've had Windows XP Pro since it was released and only once since then did I have a problem and I caused it. But having a good backup had my system running again within 3 hours from complete death.

Don't knock any operating system when quite possibly it's YOUR lack of knowledge with it or YOUR complete disregard of 'requirements' when you stuff that newest progarm/accessory into the system.

PPPPPP - Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

Good Day

N1YDX - Lee
With all due respect, a LOT of computer professionals have "issues" and strong negative opinions about Windoze ME. And YES, we CAN read, and know how the system was SUPPOSED to work. And many people had problems from the start, not just "adding new hardware ten years later."
If you had good luck, BRAVO for you. You appear to be in the vast minority.
But your "Don't read the instructions" slam was uncalled for, innacurate, and inappropriate.

[kl7aj]

Quote[/b] (KC2RPP @ June 19 2007,15:22)]I have Windows ME and it crashes all the time. Why??? Whats ur experience with ME???
When Microsoft itself refers to ME as a "mistake" it's probably true.

eric

[KB3NDN]

microsoft has a new combinational operating system coming out. with features from Windows Ce, Windows NT, and Windows ME, Windows CEMENT is due sometime next year. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif i saw that somewhere.

[WA3KYY]

Quote[/b] (KC2RPP @ June 19 2007,18:22)]I have Windows ME and it crashes all the time. Why??? Whats ur experience with ME???
Replace it ASAP. It is the worst version of Windows ever if you do anything but run what was installed on the computer when you bought it. Even then, it often has issues.

On two systems that came with ME I had issues with just about every new program or hardware item I wanted to use. As soon as XP Home was available I upgraded and those systems have worked fine ever since.