Another Reason to Distrust Islamic Beliefs

[K2WH]

Here's another in the string of things not to do when in Islam.

Hug This (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274355,00.html)

Seems you have to keep your distance. Could assasination be in her future?

K2WH

[G0GQK]

The moslem's don't realise it but they have big problems living in the modern world. They live in a black and white world, there are no shades. Despite all this garbage about being a peaceful religion, not true, it is quite evident to everyone that they have serious problems with women. The religious leaders, and there seem to be thousands of them, can only accept women as subservient to themselves. As long as they live in the 12th century there are going to be conflicts and like the communists were, they thrive on conflict, it gives them something to do during the day.

I often used to wonder when the communists were in a permant revolution when the Revolution would come to an end. It came when the wall came down.

G0GQK

[W4HAY]

Here's one Muslim with the guts to ask!

The latest survey of American Muslims won't reassure their fellow citizens.
Quote[/b] ]Islamic organizations regularly accuse non-Muslims of "Islamophobia," a fear and disdain for everything Islamic. On May 17, this accusation bubbled up again as foreign ministers from the Organization of the Islamic Conference called Islamophobia "the worst form of terrorism." These ministers also warned, according to the Arab News, that this form of discrimination would cause millions of Muslims in Western countries, "many of whom were already underprivileged," to be "further alienated."

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It may seem bizarre, but Islamic reformers are not immune to the charge of "Islamophobia" either. For 20 years, I have preached a reformed interpretation of Islam that teaches peace and respects human rights. I have consistently spoken out--with dozens of other Muslim and Arab reformers--against the mistreatment of women, gays and religious minorities in the Islamic world. We have pointed out the violent teachings of Salafism and the imperative of Westerners to protect themselves against it.

Yet according to CAIR's Michigan spokeswoman, Zeinab Chami, I am "the latest weapon in the Islamophobe arsenal." If standing against the violent edicts of Shariah law is "Islamophobic," then I will treat her accusation as a badge of honor

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Muslims must ask what prompts this "phobia" in the first place. When we in the West examine the worldwide atrocities perpetrated daily in the name of Islam, it is vital to question if we--Muslims--should lay the blame on others for Islamophobia or if we should first look hard at ourselves.

According to a recent Pew Global Attitudes survey, "younger Muslims in the U.S. are much more likely than older Muslim Americans to say that suicide bombing in the defense of Islam can be at least sometimes justified." About one out of every four American Muslims under 30 think suicide bombing in defense of Islam is justified in at least some circumstances. Twenty-eight percent believe that Muslims did not carry out the 9/11 attacks and 32% declined to answer that question.

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Of course, Islamist attacks are not limited to Christians and Jews. Why do we hear no Muslim condemnation of the ongoing slaughter of Buddhists in Thailand by Islamic groups? Why was there silence over the Mumbai train bombings which took the lives of over 200 Hindus in 2006? We must not forget that innocent Muslims, too, are suffering. Indeed, the most common murderers of Muslims are, and have always been, other Muslims. Where is the Muslim outcry over the Sunni-Shiite violence in Iraq?

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It is well past time that Muslims cease using the charge of "Islamophobia" as a tool to intimidate and blackmail those who speak up against suspicious passengers and against those who rightly criticize current Islamic practices and preachings. Instead, Muslims must engage in honest and humble introspection. Muslims should--must--develop strategies to rescue our religion by combating the tyranny of Salafi Islam and its dreadful consequences. Among more important outcomes, this will also put an end to so-called Islamophobia.
Dr. Hamid, a onetime member of Jemaah Islamiya, an Islamist terrorist group, is a medical doctor and Muslim reformer living in the West.
How to End 'Islamophobia' (http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010123)

[ka5piu]

Hello.

When Ann Richards won the election I was asked to kiss the governor at a press event for the democratic party.
I had sent my memo that Ann Richards was the governor and that she was a woman.
Good thing that this did not happen, as the Sheikhs were freaking.
I was promptly sent to Canada to explain myself.
Canada was picked, as Sheikh Bandar, the ambassador of Saudi Arabia had already commented on this.
Bandar was banned from ever talking to me, not that this stopped him.
But, yes, there are a lot of issues like this.
Kind of like the Catholic church?

[K0RGR]

I believe Mark Twain said "We will know true Liberty the day we see two Baptists dancing together".

All religions have their taboos - read Leviticus for starters.
I still want to know if the gays and those who eat shellfish will end up in the same burning pool in Hell. I have not given up shrimp yet.

Sadly, the Muslim religion, like MANY Christian sects, seems to relegate women to the position of property. One of my marketing nightmares years ago was having to work closely with a customer who was a devout Northern Baptist. He felt compelled for some reason, to educate me continuously about his Church's belief that women should be kept barefoot and pregnant, which he somehow managed to do.

I think there will be a special pool for those who oppress others, for whatever reason.

[N5NPO]

Nothing wrong with ISLAM. Why all the bad press.
Everyone knows it is the http://www.religionofpeace.com .

[N2RJ]

Nobody is offering a counterpoint because they'll just get beaten down by the "ISLAM IS EEEEEEVILL!!!!" crowd.

I personally don't give a flying fudge anymore.

[N5NPO]

Islam is http://www.thereligionofpeace.com .
Nothing EEEEEEEEEEEVIL in ISALM.

[N9XR]

Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ May 25 2007,04:53)]Islam is http://www.thereligionofpeace.com .
Nothing EEEEEEEEEEEVIL in ISALM.
I think many Americans view Muslims as evil because of their adherence to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Maybe that is what NPO thinks.

[WB2WIK]

Religions have different unique issues.

Here's one, about the Orthodox Jewish...

A young man and young woman were to be married in the Jewish Orthodox religion, in an Orthodox temple, followed by an Orthodox reception according to the Tzniut.

Prior to the wedding, the man asks his rabbi, “So, is it okay that Shari and I dance at the reception?”

The Orthodox rabbi proclaims, “Absolutely not! It is strictly prohibited by the Tzniut!”

“But it is okay to have sex after the ceremony, rabbi?”

“Yes, of course, that’s a mitzvah!” (Blessing from God.)

“What if we wanted to have sex in the back room of the reception hall while others are eating?”

“I suppose that’s fine, it’s a mitzvah.”

“Can we have sex in the pool out behind the reception hall?”

“I think so, it’s a mitzvah.”

“What about if we wanted to have sex in the kitchen, on the table where the food is prepared?”

“That should be okay, it’s a mitzvah.”

“What if we wanted to have sex standing up, in the hallway?”

“Absolutely NOT! Could lead to dancing...”
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[W8EFA]

Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ May 25 2007,13:53)]Islam is http://www.thereligionofpeace.com .
Nothing EEEEEEEEEEEVIL in ISALM.
And nothing EEEEEEEVIL about fundamentalist supposed "Christians" that think that 1.2 Billion Muslims are evil. #

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ May 25 2007,12:53)]Islam is http://www.thereligionofpeace.com .
Nothing EEEEEEEEEEEVIL in ISALM.
Woohoo, another propaganda site a la LGF.

My favorite is No beliefs (http://www.nobeliefs.com)

[N2RJ]

Radical muslim caught making bombs (http://www.wsls.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSLS%2FMGArticle%2FSLS_BasicArt icle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173351309587&path=!news!localnews)

Muslim cleric rapes teenage girl (http://www.nwipp-newspapers.com/fh/free/310759800305306.php)

Christians love the Jews (http://www.nobeliefs.com/luther.htm)

Pope JPII on sex abuse (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/03/21/vatican.sex.abuse/)

[k6bbc]

Quote[/b] (n9xr @ May 25 2007,10:55)]Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ May 25 2007,04:53)]Islam is http://www.thereligionofpeace.com .
Nothing EEEEEEEEEEEVIL in ISALM.
I think many Americans view Muslims as evil because of their adherence to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Maybe that is what NPO thinks.
If one looks at the world map, it is easily observed that nearly every Islamic nation has internal (civil) strife, or conflict on their borders. This is not true for Christian dominated nations. Is there a cause-effect here? Not sure. But observation says yes.

bbc

[W4HAY]

Quote[/b] ]"In a recent raid on an al-Qaeda safe house in Iraq, U.S. military officials recovered an assortment of crude drawings depicting torture methods," TheSmokingGun.com reports. The site reproduces a dozen pages of the illustrations, which depict such methods as "blowtorch to the skin" and "eye removal," and adds:

Along with the images, which you'll find on the following pages, soldiers seized various torture implements, like meat cleavers, whips, and wire cutters. Photos of those items can be seen here. The images, which were just declassified by the Department of Defense, also include a picture of a ramshackle Baghdad safe house described as an "al-Qaeda torture chamber." It was there, during an April 24 raid, that soldiers found a man suspended from the ceiling by a chain. According to the military, he had been abducted from his job and was being beaten daily by his captors. In a raid earlier this week, Coalition Forces freed five Iraqis who were found in a padlocked room in Karmah. The group, which included a boy, were reportedly beaten with chains, cables, and hoses. Photos showing injuries sustained by those captives can be found here.

Blogger Don Surber of the Charleston (W.Va.) Daily Mail examines big-media coverage of the documents:

Where did USA Today play the torture book story?
Not on Page One.

Where did the New York Times play it?
Not on Page One.

Where did the Washington Post play it?
Not on Page One.

And yet such false stories as the "flushed Koran" got widespread play in the newspapers and on television.

We are hearing those awful "Sounds of Silence" that Simon and Garfunkel warned us about.
Real Torture (http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110010125)

[ve2nsm]

Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ May 25 2007,12:36)]Hello.

When Ann Richards won the election I was asked to kiss the governor at a press event for the democratic party.
I had sent my memo that Ann Richards was the governor and that she was a woman.
Good thing that this did not happen, as the Sheikhs were freaking.
I was promptly sent to Canada to explain myself.
Canada was picked, as Sheikh Bandar, the ambassador of Saudi Arabia had already commented on this.
Bandar was banned from ever talking to me, not that this stopped him.
But, yes, there are a lot of issues like this.
Kind of like the Catholic church?
Man, I'm sorry to ask but: do you actually believe everything you say?

[N5NPO]

Quote[/b] (n9xr @ May 25 2007,10:55)]Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ May 25 2007,04:53)]Islam is http://www.thereligionofpeace.com .
Nothing EEEEEEEEEEEVIL in ISALM.
I think many Americans view Muslims as evil because of their adherence to the teachings of Jesus Christ. #Maybe that is what NPO thinks.
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAYBEE.
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAYBEE not.

Islam is http://www.thereligionofpeace.com .

What is there not to like?

[K5FH]

Quote[/b] (ve2nsm @ May 25 2007,13:53)]Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ May 25 2007,12:36)]Hello.

When Ann Richards won the election I was asked to kiss the governor at a press event for the democratic party.
I had sent my memo that Ann Richards was the governor and that she was a woman.
Good thing that this did not happen, as the Sheikhs were freaking.
I was promptly sent to Canada to explain myself.
Canada was picked, as Sheikh Bandar, the ambassador of Saudi Arabia had already commented on this.
Bandar was banned from ever talking to me, not that this stopped him.
But, yes, there are a lot of issues like this.
Kind of like the Catholic church?
Man, I'm sorry to ask but: do you actually believe everything you say?
He needs to visit a shaman and have his dream analyzed.