Pro Labor Sen. Clinton served on Walmart's

[KW4MW]

Quote[/b] ]Democrats love to bash Wal-Mart. In fact, you really cannot be a leftist unless you are unceasingly accusing the gigantic retailer about everything from stealing babies to destroying the planet. But the Democrat’s most amazing critic is New York Senator Hillary Clinton. She has the audacity to constantly demonize Wal-Mart, like about not spending enough on health care for its employees, even though she was once a member of its board of directors; for six years!


Democrats can incessantly bash Wal-Mart, yet they still take its PAC money. And nobody in the press even cares. (http://www.nationalsummary.com/Articles/Politics/politics__hillary_wal-mart.htm)

[N9XR]

Quote[/b] ]...accusing the gigantic retailer about everything from stealing babies...
Can they quote sources?

Oh, I forgot. This is a conservative rag and lies are permissible.

[KW4MW]

Quote[/b] (n9xr @ May 21 2007,14:35)]Quote[/b] ]...accusing the gigantic retailer about everything from stealing babies...
Can they quote sources?

Oh, I forgot. #This is a conservative rag and lies are permissible.
Typical Lib-Bot response to try to divert ones attention from the truth. #

It looks like Hillary believes in that Lib double standard just as much as the Lib supporters on this forum. #

Phonies!

[K6UEY]

If lies were not permissable the Democrats would be restricted from posting !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[KW4MW]

Hmmmm - no Lib-Bot spin trying to say it ain't so.

What's with that?

[w5klb]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ May 21 2007,11:41)]If lies were not permissable the Democrats would be restricted from posting !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Atta boy Orv,

Don't mince words, tell us how you REALLY feel.

Note to self: Refrain from ticking off UEY unless you can readily find the number for the US Marshals for their Witness Protection Program.

Word for today: "DUCK!" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KW4MW]

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[KI4ITV]

For Hillary, the recent taking of PAC and other money from Wal-mart(s) is a double standard, or even a total lack of standards.
But, her time served on the Board of said company seems to fall during the last years of Sam Waltons tenure as CEO/owner. He passed away in April of 1992, BTW.
It was a entirely different organization then and many of the employees did very well, IF they had the self control to do their jobs well and re-invest in the company. VERY, VERY WELL. The benefits at the time, were better than most offered in the regions these stores operated in (mostly semi-rural) and internal promotions based on performance were common and preferred.
Wal-mart is not the same company it once was, and this should be reflected in the article, but isn't.

I am no regular defender of Mrs. Clinton by any means, but, there is a certain lack of perspective and truth reported in politics these days. And this article is a classic example.

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (KI4ITV @ May 22 2007,08:43)]For Hillary, the recent taking of PAC and other money from Wal-mart(s) is a double standard, or even a total lack of standards.
But, her time served on the Board of said company seems to fall during the last years of Sam Waltons tenure as CEO/owner. He passed away in April of 1992, BTW.
It was a entirely different organization then and many of the employees did very well, IF they had the self control to do their jobs well and re-invest in the company. VERY, VERY WELL. The benefits at the time, were better than most offered in the regions these stores operated in (mostly semi-rural) and internal promotions based on performance were common and preferred.
Wal-mart is not the same company it once was, and this should be reflected in the article, but isn't.

I am no regular defender of Mrs. Clinton by any means, but, there is a certain lack of perspective and truth reported in politics these days. And this article is a classic example.
Wow. You just wrecked a perfectly good neocon feeding frenzy. They were salivating, awaiting a lib/dem to wander in unarmed. And here you come in with a few reasonable facts, and a calm demeanor. I hope you are happy with the result!

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[N9XR]

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I know, I know. I'm the Grin's. I am glad you did it for you too.

[ka5piu]

Hello.

When Sam Walton was alive he was arrested, not once, but twice.
One time he was roaming around one of the stores break areas and overheard a conversation about the "new" benefits package.
This was a split plan, cashiers and others would get a reduced plan while upper level management got a bit better plan at lower cost.
The man went nuts, and was detained by store security and turned over to the police.
When the dust settled, several people at corporate were fired.
Sam Walton said that there was only one class of employee at Wal-Mart and only one insurance program.
Now, the buy American program is all but gone, profit margins rule.
So, yes Wal-Mart HAS changed, at every level.
There no longer is a person who can say that something is wrong, fix it, not that anybody who runs Wal-Mart now even cares.
And, the average wage of a store employee has dropped nearly 50% in the from the time Sam Walton died to today, and that is actual wages, NOT counting the loss of benefits.

[N9XR]

Typical Lib-Bot response to try to divert ones attention from the lies.

[N3ATS]

I like WalMart.

Where else can you buy a jar of mayonnaise, a box of shotgun shells and have your oil changed while you wait? All under the same roof.

First of all working for any retail establishment sucks. Low wages, crappy hours, nights, weekends, holidays, no room for promotion. This happens everywhere. I started my career as a working stiff at a grocery store. I know it sucks. WalMart just gets the most flak because they are so big.

I hear the argument that WalMart drives their suppliers out of business because they demand that they sell them the goods so cheap.

What some fail to realize is the amount of goods they are buying.

Mom and Pop might buy 50,000 widgets from Ajax Supply for $1.00 each.

WalMart demands to get those same items for $.50 each. But WalMart may be buying 200,000 pieces at each time.

They sell more of the product faster because of their presence and low prices. That's good cash flow and a guarantee (most times) that the supplier will have plenty of work.

We have three WalMarts here in our County. Not a single business has gone under because of them. As a matter of fact, even the struggling K-Mart stores are still open right down the street from the WalMart stores.

I've read the stories, heard the arguments, and studied the "evidence". Personally I have not witness the "sky is falling" fallout from having a WalMart.

What I have never heard is how WalMart, with low prices, can help improve the standard of living for poor folks. No one ever argues this point.

I shopped at WalMart one week, and a Mom & Pop grocery store the next. I bought the exact same items. On an $80 grocery bill I saved $14 by shopping at WalMart.

[KE5FRF]

Could a conservative agree with a liberal?

While I do believe in free market enterprise, I feel that Wal-Mart is pushing the envelope of poor coporate ethics. I avoid shopping there. Mostly cuz I don't like the crowds, lines, and the empty shelves on products that I need. Their meat market is horrible as well. No butchers, all their meat is prepackaged in some warehouse full of cheap labor.

I've seen the damage, but I believe the only way to change things is to refuse to shop there. That is the moral of the story. A Winn-Dixie (southeastern chain) went out of business locally because of the inability to compete. We have one more location within reasonable driving distance for me to shop. Its on my way home from work, so that is the store I choose. I've made an effort to give them my business wherever I can. They have superior fresh products anyway (meat, produce) That is market forces at work and that is how I do business.

Complaining about things solves nothing.

[KA8NCR]

The ties to the Clintons and Wal-Mart go deep and far, so I'm not surprised if there's some retroactive back-scratching happening in this case. Not all Democrats are against Wal-Mart, in fact I'd put a wager forth that most of Wal-Marts customers are Democrats.

I agree with the post before this one; I don't like the quality, I don't like the dirty store and having to wait in the long lines to check out and I certainly know I can get better service elsewhere. Sometimes saving a buck isn't worth the wait and effort.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (n9xr @ May 22 2007,05:36)]Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ May 21 2007,12:20)]Recycled to the top just for S & G's. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I know, I know. I'm the Grin's. I am glad you did it for you too.
That was funny.

As to the topic, I'm not wild about their practices, on the other hand I'm not wild about paying for unskilled union labor.

And as the man said, where else can you buy a box of shotgun shells, peanut butter and a tent at 2am, which is about the time I get home from work and can shop, so yeah I go there for alot of things, and I go to the market for quality things, while I'm not wild about unions, I do like the level of service at a Stater Bros or Ralphs.

Edit - Ok walmart wasnt the topic, a hypocritical politition was..

Well, so what, surprised? They ALL are!