FACT: The Republican candidate for 2008 will lose

[KC0VWU]

I hate to say it but no matter who my party nominates, that person is going to LOSE by a massive landslide. This is largely due to the anti-Bush smear campaign financed and controlled by soul-less left coast limousine liberals who are hell bent on turning this great republic into a socialist nanny state.

[n2nh]

I'm not counting MY chickens before they hatch. The election is a long ways off and America will decide only when they vote. The Democrats have to perform and be willing to do what they were elected to do.

Time will tell. 18 months to go.

[NC5P]

All republicans should change to democrats so they can vote in a moderate candidate in the primaries. The problem with the democratic party is the moderates all left the party to become republicans, leaving the far left to control the party. There are several moderate candidates running, such as Bill Richardson who recently defused the North Korea nuclear situation. They don't stand a chance against Hillary and Obama, one of which is sure to be the nominee and the other the vp.

This country really needs a moderate president and that person probably should be a democrat so they can get along with congress. We have seen enough of far right and far left totally controlling the government. All it has become is the laughing stock of the world.

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ May 20 2007,17:52)]I hate to say it but no matter who my party nominates, that person is going to LOSE by a massive landslide. This is largely due to the anti-Bush smear campaign financed and controlled by soul-less left coast limousine liberals who are hell bent on turning this great republic into a socialist nanny state.
You rogot to mention one name...Soros..

To the old Zorro theme song


Out of the night
Leaving the neocons in fright
Comes the philanphropist known as Soros
This bold billionaire
Carves an S in in name
An S that stands for Soros

Soros Soros
The Dems are taking the lead
Soros Soros
Who makes the sign of the S
SOROS
SOROS
SOROS
SOROS

[W1GUH]

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ May 19 2007,18:52)]I hate to say it but no matter who my party nominates, that person is going to LOSE by a massive landslide. This is largely due to the anti-Bush smear campaign financed and controlled by soul-less left coast limousine liberals who are hell bent on turning this great republic into a socialist nanny state.
Nobody's smeared w and co. more than they have themselves.

[KI4PJW]

It does not matter if its a Republican or a Democrat who wins, both are working towards the same goal. Welcome to the North American Union.

Will Not Bow!!!

[KD6NIG]

With the way things look now, the Dems SHOULD have it in the bag. But this IS politics, so until the election is over.

It SHOULD work out this way, but, just like in a horse race, the horse you bet on could be in front and suddenly fades down the stretch, and you don't even get anything for 3rd place http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[wa8rti]

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ May 20 2007,19:52)]liberals who are hell bent on turning this great republic into a socialist nanny state.
So you would prefer a facist state run by the CEO's of the Fortune 500. We already have big business running most of the affairs of government. It will take only a few more twistings of the knife in the common man's back and more Patriot Act #type losses of liberty to see the feat done. Roller Ball world will be here in no time!

[KP3FT]

I think the only chance the Republican party has to win is if/when Fred Thompsen decides to run. He'd likely take the primary from the other Republican candidates, and has a good chance of getting elected President over any of the Democrat candidates.

73 Jeff KP3FT

[KC0VWU]

Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ May 20 2007,19:32)]Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ May 20 2007,19:52)]liberals who are hell bent on turning this great republic into a socialist nanny state.
So you would prefer a facist state run by the CEO's of the Fortune 500.
Yes.

[n4sva]

Quote[/b] (KP3FT @ May 21 2007,13:40)]I think the only chance the Republican party has to win is if/when Fred Thompsen decides to run. He'd likely take the primary from the other Republican candidates, and has a good chance of getting elected President over any of the Democrat candidates.

73 Jeff KP3FT
If the Dems nominate Hillary, anybody the Republicans field will win.

[KC0VWU]

Quote[/b] (n4sva @ May 20 2007,22:32)]Quote[/b] (KP3FT @ May 21 2007,13:40)]I think the only chance the Republican party has to win is if/when Fred Thompsen decides to run. He'd likely take the primary from the other Republican candidates, and has a good chance of getting elected President over any of the Democrat candidates.

73 Jeff KP3FT
If the Dems nominate Hillary, anybody the Republicans field will win.
Remind me to bump this thread on election day. hehe.

[n4sva]

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ May 21 2007,14:34)]Quote[/b] (n4sva @ May 20 2007,22:32)]Quote[/b] (KP3FT @ May 21 2007,13:40)]I think the only chance the Republican party has to win is if/when Fred Thompsen decides to run. He'd likely take the primary from the other Republican candidates, and has a good chance of getting elected President over any of the Democrat candidates.

73 Jeff KP3FT
If the Dems nominate Hillary, anybody the Republicans field will win.
Remind me to bump this thread on election day. hehe.
Go right ahead. Hillary seems to be using Michael Dukakis' "Northern Strategy".

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (n4sva @ May 21 2007,23:38)]Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ May 21 2007,14:34)]Quote[/b] (n4sva @ May 20 2007,22:32)]Quote[/b] (KP3FT @ May 21 2007,13:40)]I think the only chance the Republican party has to win is if/when Fred Thompsen decides to run. He'd likely take the primary from the other Republican candidates, and has a good chance of getting elected President over any of the Democrat candidates.

73 Jeff KP3FT
If the Dems nominate Hillary, anybody the Republicans field will win.
Remind me to bump this thread on election day. hehe.
Go right ahead. Hillary seems to be using Michael Dukakis' "Northern Strategy".
Oxy-Rushbo told his listeners yesterday it was time to panic. He says its an 80% chance that Hillary will be elected our next president.

Yes, I must suffer the "eib comedy show" at work. Small price to pay for the nice paycheck I get.

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (n4sva @ May 21 2007,21:32)]Quote[/b] (KP3FT @ May 21 2007,13:40)]I think the only chance the Republican party has to win is if/when Fred Thompsen decides to run. #He'd likely take the primary from the other Republican candidates, and has a good chance of getting elected President over any of the Democrat candidates.

73 Jeff KP3FT
If the Dems nominate Hillary, anybody the Republicans field will win.
Not according to the latest polls.

Check this out:

Linkamabob (http://www.pollingreport.com/2008.htm)

You have to look at all three polls to get the jist of it, but what it says is that Hillary would likely come out on top. (Of course, the polls don't control anything... or do they?)

73, Rob

[W3MIV]

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ May 20 2007,19:54)]I'm not counting MY chickens before they hatch. #The election is a long ways off and America will decide only when they vote. #The Democrats have to perform and be willing to do what they were elected to do. #

Time will tell. #18 months to go.
Exactly right, John. The American electorate is nothing if not fickle. Especially in a presidential election.

Biden's "plagerism;" Eagleton's "electric shocks;" Nixon's "five o'clock shadow" on 1960 B&W TV debates; Dukakis in that ludicrous helmet in the tank; Haig's "I'm in control!" Each was a viable candidate at one point and a liability in the next.

There is yet plenty of time for fate's famous finger to intrude. And also plenty of time for dark horses.

[ac4ut]

Historically and or histerically,whichever you prefer,the democrat who is the front runner in the early polls does not get elected.
I think Edwards is banking on this unless old Al decides to run, then all bets are off IMO.
Al vs Fred would be a real dog fight.

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ May 22 2007,03:09)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ May 20 2007,19:54)]I'm not counting MY chickens before they hatch. #The election is a long ways off and America will decide only when they vote. #The Democrats have to perform and be willing to do what they were elected to do. #

Time will tell. #18 months to go.
Exactly right, John. The American electorate is nothing if not fickle. Especially in a presidential election.

Biden's "plagerism;" Eagleton's "electric shocks;" Nixon's "five o'clock shadow" on 1960 B&W TV debates; Dukakis in that ludicrous helmet in the tank; Haig's "I'm in control!" Each was a viable candidate at one point and a liability in the next.

There is yet plenty of time for fate's famous finger to intrude. And also plenty of time for dark horses.
You left out Gary Hart's "Monkey Business", but your point is well taken.

Wasn't Phil Gramm a "front runner" at one point during the 2000 election? We all know what happened to him...

Dave NX6D
Tulelake, CA

[wa8rti]

You know electing Hilary may be a way getting rid of Rush. If Bill's presidency sent Rush to the edge, Hilary's would give him apoplexy for sure!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[N8GAV]

Lets see gas is over $3.00 a gal.health care is out of sight the right-wing blaber mouths like Rush Windbag knows all the answers but also there is more money in it for them by writing books and talking then running for office and trying to fix the problems.Liberals say that "Goverment is the answer" and the Right says that "Goverment is the problem" and then every day they prove themshelfs Right(A little pun in there:D ).... Welcome to the good ol U.S.of A where WE are all wrong and they are all Right

[kg6amw]

Never under estimate the democrat’s ability to field candidates who are just flat unelectable.

[k0ews]

The dilema for both parties is that they have to have someone who will play to their "base" and get out the vote, and yet at the same time convert the moderates in the center. The last one to do this was Reagan. Bush 41 also was successful the first time, but not as much as Reagan.
I don't see anyone on either side, except probably Giuliani that has that ability right now. Obama comes off as green, Hillary as polarizing, McCain as a turncoat, and Edwards has the last election loss hanging over him.

Personally, as an independent, the only one I see running around my state right now that really impresses me is Richardson. Him I like and would vote for.

That being said, I do not think this country is ready for a landslide one way or the other. The Dems performance in Congress thus far has been rather ineffective, and they just lost a big one to Bush on the latest funding bill. The negatives for the Dems may just hurt them in 08.