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KA8NCR
05-20-2007, 05:02 AM
Apparently he's not stopping; the Treasury Department wants to open an investigation about Moore's travels to Cuba for his latest movie. Unfortunately, the distributor has hidden the negatives and Moore is using the missteps to further irritate the government.

Sit back and watch the entire Republican party writhe in unison over the latest Michael Moore inspired irritant.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/cannes2007/story/0,,2083430,00.html

The new movie, Sicko, apparently is a big hit at Cannes. Michael Moore takes on the health care industry and asks why rescue workers from 9/11 get better care in Cuba than in the United States.

w5klb
05-20-2007, 05:28 AM
"The Guardian", eh? This is from the same people who tried to interfere in our internal affairs by a influencing the 2004 US Presidential Election. They would do well to keep their nose out the affairs of "the colonies."

I heard that Mikey made two copies of this movie, sending one copy to France. Going to Cuba to make part of this movie, in the land of Comrade Fidel, was against the U.S. trade embargo against Cuba. Mikey should be held accountable for such actions.

"Mental institution, Michael. Maybe you should think about that."-Fred Thompson.

The only thing "The Guardian" is good for is wrapping fish, lining bird cages and puppy training.

n2ize
05-20-2007, 06:03 AM
Looks like it started already.

w5klb
05-20-2007, 06:28 AM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ May 19 2007,23:03)]Looks like it started already.
Nah, it's an continuation of SSDD from Comrade Moore(on)

n2nh
05-20-2007, 07:21 AM
Quote[/b] (w5klb @ May 20 2007,01:28)]"The Guardian", eh? This is from the same people who tried to interfere in our internal affairs by a influencing the 2004 US Presidential Election. They would do well to keep their nose out the affairs of "the colonies."
Hm, I wonder if that's what they're saying in Baghdad these days? Fred DALTON Thompson? Would he be related to those terrorists the Dalton Gang?
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w5klb
05-20-2007, 06:54 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ May 20 2007,00:21)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ May 20 2007,01:28)]"The Guardian", eh? This is from the same people who tried to interfere in our internal affairs by a influencing the 2004 US Presidential Election. They would do well to keep their nose out the affairs of "the colonies."
Hm, I wonder if that's what they're saying in Baghdad these days?...
I dunno. Why don't you fly over to Iraq and find out or better yet, offer your assistance. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

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n2nh
05-20-2007, 09:31 PM
Quote[/b] (w5klb @ May 20 2007,14:54)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ May 20 2007,00:21)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ May 20 2007,01:28)]"The Guardian", eh? This is from the same people who tried to interfere in our internal affairs by a influencing the 2004 US Presidential Election. They would do well to keep their nose out the affairs of "the colonies."
Hm, I wonder if that's what they're saying in Baghdad these days?...
I dunno. Why don't you fly over to Iraq and find out or better yet, offer your assistance. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

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Don't need to. They've already been making it clear with demonstrations and this little gem that even thick-headed Republicans are getting the message on:

* Okay, then we'll go * (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/14/in-congress-seeking-a-compromise-war-bill/#more-1691)

NC5P
05-20-2007, 09:38 PM
He decorated an old motorhome with "sodomobile" and drove it to Topeka, then found Fred Phelps and drove it by to tweak him off. I think the two of them ought to have a tv show.

WA3WDR
05-20-2007, 09:56 PM
What a crock of hooey this bill is. #A thousand pages, nobody reads that crap. #Maybe Michael Moore will rent an ice cream truck and read it on the DC streets, but I doubt it. #Senators will opine based on their talking points that political handlers give out daily. #Nobody will really know what is in the bill, and it won't matter. #

You can expect More of the Same, or Worse. The government won't enforce the laws we have, so who do they think they are kidding when they pretend that they are going to enforce this BS. #Nothing is new.

Probably the best thing is to contact your senators and tell them to Just Say No. #Oh, and maybe try to nominate and elect senators who actually CARE about this country. #Yeah, fat chance.

W3MIV
05-20-2007, 09:59 PM
All Michael Moore is, is Rush Limbaugh with a camera in place of a mic. He is Limbaugh in drag. Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dum seen in the political mirror.

I am always entertained by these sorts of blindly political threads. If brain cells were matches, some of you guys would have a hard time burning your fingers.

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n2nh
05-20-2007, 10:00 PM
Moore Derangement Syndrome.

WA3WDR
05-20-2007, 10:03 PM
Yeah, it's all about Michael Moore. #Right.

People - WAKE UP.

K3XR
05-20-2007, 10:18 PM
Who is Michael Moore??

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printin....did=899 (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printindividualProfile.asp?indid=899)

k0ews
05-20-2007, 10:46 PM
Actually, Fox News gave the film a rather positive review. Moore's new movie is non-partisan from what I hear, and he takes on Democrats and Republicans equally as much regarding the fact that they(congress) are in the pocket of the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.
If it is released wide, I'll probably go see it to get my own impression.

W3MIV
05-20-2007, 10:56 PM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ May 20 2007,17:18)]Who is Michael Moore??
Check out the old Gregory Peck movie, Moby Dick. Moore stars in the title role -- http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

K3XR
05-21-2007, 11:52 AM
Just the facts, El gordo.

http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/20/shock-moore-accused-of-distorting-facts-to-serve-new-films-agenda/?print=1)

W1GUH
05-21-2007, 01:15 PM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ May 19 2007,16:56)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ May 20 2007,17:18)]Who is Michael Moore??
Check out the old Gregory Peck movie, Moby Dick. Moore stars in the title role -- # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Yep...lots of brain cells in use coming up with that one.

k4kyv
05-21-2007, 10:17 PM
Quote[/b] (w5klb @ May 20 2007,05:28)]Going to Cuba to make part of this movie, in the land of Comrade Fidel, was against the U.S. trade embargo against Cuba. Mikey should be held accountable for such actions.
Our government used to harshly criticise, and rightly so, the USSR and the rest of the Iron Curtain countries because they restricted the freedom of their citizens to travel internationally, especially to countries in the West.

The freedom to travel outside one's own country is recognised internationally as a basic human right.

The US ban on travel to Cuba has no more validity than Saudi Arabia's ban on its citizens travelling to Israel.

KI4PJW
05-21-2007, 10:29 PM
Don't know about you folks but, the government is subject to me, not vice-versa and if I want to go somewhere that is my business.
As for the guy going to Cuba and dealing with the Commies, he is in the very back of the million mile long line of those in power in the US that pass asinine laws like the Military Commissions Act, John Warner National Defense Authorization Act etc...

K0RGR
05-21-2007, 11:39 PM
OK - I took the time to skim through the "long list of lies and distortions" linked to here and recently trumpeted by Fred Thompson, and all I can say is "much ado about nothing".
Moore's movies are well with the 'justifiable' range for most of their charges, even if they don't rise to the level of admissability in court.

If I say that the sun rises in the East, a spokescreature from the other side will rise and call me a liar. "He distorts the facts and leaves out important details". "Furthermore, on cloudy days, there is no evidence at all that the sun rises."

I am anxious to see his new movie, though I bet it will be banned here in the "Med City" if it advocates most changes. Farenheit 911 was only shown in one theater here and you had to pass through a crowd of evangelical protesters to get in the first couple days.

Maybe if we're extremely lucky, it will bring about a debate on what we need to do about health care in this country.

K3XR
05-22-2007, 12:09 PM
Looks like Mike's nose may become as big as his back side.

http://newsbusters.org/node/12914

w4wtf
05-22-2007, 09:15 PM
Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ May 21 2007,16:39)]OK - I took the time to skim through the "long list of lies and distortions" linked to here and recently trumpeted by Fred Thompson, and all I can say is "much ado about nothing".
Moore's movies are well with the 'justifiable' range for most of their charges, even if they don't rise to the level of admissability in court.

If I say that the sun rises in the East, a spokescreature from the other side will rise and call me a liar. "He distorts the facts and leaves out important details". #"Furthermore, on cloudy days, there is no evidence at all that the sun rises."

I am anxious to see his new movie, though I bet it will be banned here in the "Med City" if it advocates most changes. Farenheit 911 was only shown in one theater here and you had to pass through a crowd of evangelical protesters to get in the first couple days.

Maybe if we're extremely lucky, it will bring about a debate on what we need to do about health care in this country.
Here is a great paper, written by an expert in propaganda, that shows alot about how Moore operates and manipulates his audience. (http://www.workingpsychology.com/download_folder/Propaganda_And_Fahrenheit.pdf)

N2RJ
05-22-2007, 09:40 PM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ May 21 2007,06:52)]Just the facts, El gordo.

http://hotair.com/archive....print=1 (http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/20/shock-moore-accused-of-distorting-facts-to-serve-new-films-agenda/?print=1)
Link and run, link and run!

K0RGR
05-22-2007, 09:43 PM
Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ May 22 2007,14:15)]Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ May 21 2007,16:39)]OK - I took the time to skim through the "long list of lies and distortions" linked to here and recently trumpeted by Fred Thompson, and all I can say is "much ado about nothing".
Moore's movies are well with the 'justifiable' range for most of their charges, even if they don't rise to the level of admissability in court.

If I say that the sun rises in the East, a spokescreature from the other side will rise and call me a liar. "He distorts the facts and leaves out important details". "Furthermore, on cloudy days, there is no evidence at all that the sun rises."

I am anxious to see his new movie, though I bet it will be banned here in the "Med City" if it advocates most changes. Farenheit 911 was only shown in one theater here and you had to pass through a crowd of evangelical protesters to get in the first couple days.

Maybe if we're extremely lucky, it will bring about a debate on what we need to do about health care in this country.
Here is a great paper, written by an expert in propaganda, that shows alot about how Moore operates and manipulates his audience. (http://www.workingpsychology.com/download_folder/Propaganda_And_Fahrenheit.pdf)
Yes, the author is an expert in propaganda, and he recycles the White House propaganda very well. His charges are the same as the other bag of tripe I wasted my time reading.

w4wtf
05-23-2007, 01:29 PM
Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ May 22 2007,14:43)]Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ May 22 2007,14:15)]Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ May 21 2007,16:39)]OK - I took the time to skim through the "long list of lies and distortions" linked to here and recently trumpeted by Fred Thompson, and all I can say is "much ado about nothing".
Moore's movies are well with the 'justifiable' range for most of their charges, even if they don't rise to the level of admissability in court.

If I say that the sun rises in the East, a spokescreature from the other side will rise and call me a liar. "He distorts the facts and leaves out important details". #"Furthermore, on cloudy days, there is no evidence at all that the sun rises."

I am anxious to see his new movie, though I bet it will be banned here in the "Med City" if it advocates most changes. Farenheit 911 was only shown in one theater here and you had to pass through a crowd of evangelical protesters to get in the first couple days.

Maybe if we're extremely lucky, it will bring about a debate on what we need to do about health care in this country.
Here is a great paper, written by an expert in propaganda, that shows alot about how Moore operates and manipulates his audience. (http://www.workingpsychology.com/download_folder/Propaganda_And_Fahrenheit.pdf)
Yes, the author is an expert in propaganda, and he recycles the White House propaganda very well. His charges are the same as the other bag of tripe I wasted my time reading.
Interesting response...."I don't like it, even if it it will cited and documented, so i will just call it tripe".

N2RJ
05-23-2007, 01:32 PM
Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ May 23 2007,08:29)]Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ May 22 2007,14:43)]Quote[/b] (w4wtf @ May 22 2007,14:15)]Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ May 21 2007,16:39)]OK - I took the time to skim through the "long list of lies and distortions" linked to here and recently trumpeted by Fred Thompson, and all I can say is "much ado about nothing".
Moore's movies are well with the 'justifiable' range for most of their charges, even if they don't rise to the level of admissability in court.

If I say that the sun rises in the East, a spokescreature from the other side will rise and call me a liar. "He distorts the facts and leaves out important details". "Furthermore, on cloudy days, there is no evidence at all that the sun rises."

I am anxious to see his new movie, though I bet it will be banned here in the "Med City" if it advocates most changes. Farenheit 911 was only shown in one theater here and you had to pass through a crowd of evangelical protesters to get in the first couple days.

Maybe if we're extremely lucky, it will bring about a debate on what we need to do about health care in this country.
Here is a great paper, written by an expert in propaganda, that shows alot about how Moore operates and manipulates his audience. (http://www.workingpsychology.com/download_folder/Propaganda_And_Fahrenheit.pdf)
Yes, the author is an expert in propaganda, and he recycles the White House propaganda very well. His charges are the same as the other bag of tripe I wasted my time reading.
Interesting response...."I don't like it, even if it it will cited and documented, so i will just call it tripe".
Most of these citations are references to opinions.

Looks like you're a bit short on facts.

w4wtf
05-23-2007, 02:10 PM
Actually, no they are not. Go re-read it.

Quote[/b] ]Moore uses a short clip of CNN analyst Jeffrey Toobin to dispute Bush’s legitimacyas president. Toobin is quoted as saying that if the Florida ballots had been recounted,
Gore would have won the election “under every scenario.” Moore doesn’t mention major
studies conducted by the media that flatly disagree. CNN, USA Today, the New York
Times, the Washington Post, and the Miami Herald conducted studies which found that
Bush would have won subsequent recounts in Florida, including recounts of the sort
requested by Gore.

Not opions, but real studies... Moore used opinion.

Quote[/b] ]Moore uses the words of retired FBI agent Cloonan to excoriate the departure of theSaudis after 9/11. Cloonan expresses outrage that departing Saudis were not
interviewed.19Not revealed is the fact that the Saudis were interviewed. The 9/11commission reported that 30 of the passengers were interviewed,20that the FBI was ableto interview all the departing Saudis that they wished to interview, and that the FBI has
not subsequently wished to interview any of the uninterviewed Saudis that departed on
that day.21The September 11 commission concurred that the Saudis were properlyinterviewed.22

Moore used one opinion but failed to show where the facts disgareed.

Quote[/b] ]Moore shows us a disturbing scene where we are led to believe American soldiers aremocking a corpse with rigor mortis. According to reporter Liam Lacey, “He [Moore]
revealed that a scene in which American soldiers appear to be desecrating a corpse
beneath a blanket may be misleading. In fact, the soldiers had picked up an old man who
had passed out drunk and they poked at his visible erection, covered by a blanket.”34

Not opinion backing that up either....

Quote[/b] ]Moore capitalizes on a report (released by the White House during the Air NationalGuard “AWOL” flap) that expunged the name of a fellow Guard member by the name of
James Bath. Bath is one of Moore’s imputed conspirators, and a vital link between the
Bush and Bin Laden families, as a money manager for one of the many Bin Laden
brothers, Salem Bin Laden. Moore finds the crossed-out name to be a sinister attempt at
deception, hiding evidence of the conspiracy implicating Bath, Bush, and the Bin Ladens.
But Moore doesn’t mention that 2003 federal law doesn’t allow the National Guard to
release medical information pertaining to other Guardsmen in a requested report, so they
were bound by law to black out Bath’s name in the version they released.36,37Mooregloats about his investigative skill in obtaining an uncensored copy of the same report.
It’s merely a record released in 2000, before the privacy law of 2003 was in effect.38

Not opinion, but a blatant misrepresentation of why something was done to try to connect dots that don't connect.

Quote[/b] ]The fact that the Bin Laden family disowned Osama in 1991 presented a problem forMoore—it made it difficult to paint the entire family with a broad brush.47Weakeningthe connection even further is the fact that Osama is but one of 54 children of
Mohammed Bin Laden and his 22 wives.4849These attenuated connections workedagainst the thesis of a George Bush-Osama Bin Laden connection. So Moore attempted to
repair the breech by pointing to the Bin Laden family’s attendance at a 2001 wedding of
one of Osama’s children, wondering how Osama could be considered a family pariah if
his family showed up at his son’s wedding. How could an outgrouper be an outgrouper if
he was spotted with ingroupers? It’s not the strongest indictment of uniform villainy
among the Bin Laden family, but Moore used what he had. Yeslam Binladen, one of the
Bin Laden brothers, disputed Moore’s characterization of the wedding, calling it
exaggerated: “Nobody from my family was at this wedding in Afghanistan except for the
mother of Osama.”50

Sounds like the facts were not on his side here either.

Quote[/b] ]Moore says74that Saudi Arabian interests “gave” 1.4 billion to “the Bush family andits friends and associates.” (Never mind how the category distinctions are blurred here.)
This is given as a reason for why Bush is overly accommodating to the Saudis. However,
Newsweek reports that 90% of the amount in question ($1.18 billion) comes from mid-
1990s (Clinton era) contracts to US Defense Contractor BDM for training the country’s
military.75The “connection” is that BDM was owned by the Carlyle Group, whoseAsian-affiliate advisory board included George Herbert Walker Bush. But G.H.W.B.
joined the advisory board 5 months after Carlyle sold BDM.76Thus the manipulation ofcause and effect: Moore places the ostensible cause (G.H.W.B. on the board) after the
effect it was supposed to produce (BDM being asked to train the Saudi’s military). Moore
points to other, even looser associations between the Bush family and the Saudis,
allowing cynicism to do the heavy lifting in the absence of evidence that Bush actively
promotes the Carlyle group. (There’s even evidence to the contrary: the Bush
administration has cancelled significant Carlyle contracts.77)

Opinion?

Quote[/b] ]At one point, Moore interviews Rep. Porter Goss, who defends the Patriot Act, andstates that complaints regarding the Act can be reported to an 800 number. Moore runs a
caption across the bottom of the screen: “He’s lying.” Then Moore offers the audience
Goss’ own office number as a substitute, with the likely result of overwhelming Goss’
office with angry calls. However, there is a toll-free number for the exact purpose that
Goss stated: it’s 1-877-858-9040.120It works, I’ve called it myself to check—I foundmyself talking to a harried clerk who recoiled at the mention of Fahrenheit. The trick
here is Moore’s extreme literalness in parsing Gross’ statement: Moore interprets an 800
number as: 8-0-0, not “within the 800 series.” For his purposes, the toll-free prefix 8-7-7
doesn’t count, and Goss is therefore “lying.” OK, if Gross had said “a toll free” number
instead of “an 800 number” it would have averted Moore’s parsing. Calling Goss’
statement “a lie” is misleading at best, but it does add a note of irony when Moore claims
he’ll sue anyone who calls him liar.121

Sure, just opinion.

Quote[/b] ]Many of Moore’s synopses are open to factual question; we can only visit a few ofthem here.122, 123For example, in making the case that Bush’s first eight months in officewere lackluster, Moore says: “…For the next eight months it didn’t get any better for
George W. Bush. He couldn’t get his judges appointed; had trouble getting his legislation
passed, and he lost Republican control of the Senate. His approval ratings in the polls
began to sink.” Of these four assertions, only one cleanly clears the hurtle:• Six of Bush’s judges were confirmed before 9/11.124• During this time of ascribed legislative “trouble,” Bush got the top item on hisagenda passed: a $1.35 trillion tax cut.• Moore was correct about Senate control: the Democrats took control when JimJeffords left the Republican party. During the subsequent election cycle,
however, the voters returned control to the Republicans.• Regarding Bush’s ratings, he started office with approximately 53% approval.Bush’s ratings bounce around the 50-60 range until September of 2001, and a
small decline of approximately two to three points could be seen over the
course of the eight months—depending on how the running averages are
calculated. Moore shows a graphic125of Bush’s ratings at a low of 45% onSeptember 5, 2001, which is an outlier—none of the 13 polls tracked by
University of Minnesota history professor Steven Ruggles registered a number
that low in 2001.126Regarding the implication that Bush’s popularity onlywaned since the election, there was a palpable uptick (hitting 60) at the time
of the tax cut in April.127Moore nevertheless defends his characterization ofthe pre-September Bush presidency and its overall loss of 2 to 3 approval
points as floundering and “definitely on the ropes.”128Again, Moore counts onhis audience’s lack of motivation to investigate further. He’s probably right in
counting on that.

Nope, thats not backed up with "opinion".

Quote[/b] ]Moore claims that Bush “cut terrorism funding from the FBI” which impededAmerica’s ability to defend herself against 9/11. Since the DOJ’s budget is always
established the previous year, the new Bush administration had nothing to do with the
FBI’s funding in 2001. Neither did the Bush administration propose counter-terror cuts
for the following year. In support of these supposed “cuts,” Fahrenheit briefly flashes
documentation of a cut that Ashcroft did propose, but it was not part of the FBI’s budget.
It was a cut for state grants to buy equipment, because the equipment fund contained two
years worth of unspent funding at that time.129

Yet again it is FACTS that blast hole sin Moores arguements.

Quote[/b] ]Moore claims the Saudis own 6-7% of America. To buttress this assertion, he airsinterviews with Craig Unger, who wrote a book on which Moore relies for making the
Bush-Saudi connection. Unger gives the fantastic figure of $860 billion dollars for Saudi
investments in the US. The Institute for Research Middle Eastern Policy estimates
worldwide Saudi investments at $700 billion.140Regarding shares of foreign investmentin America, the big players are Japan and the United Kingdom.141In fact, the US CensusBureau relegates Saudi investments in the U.S. to their catch-all “other” category. The
data show that Saudis own between 4% and 7% of total foreign investments in the U.S.,
but asserting that the Saudis “own seven percent of America,” or have the political clout
to match, is a brazen distortion.14

Distortion at best... There is a huge difference between owning 7% of something, and owning 7% of "forgein investments" in something


All the above are footnoted and backed up in the article with FACTS.

I think perhaps some of you are like the 20 year old metioned in the early part of the paper, who realized that much of it was BS, but since she agreed with Moore politically she gives him a pass of his distortions.

K3XR
05-25-2007, 07:48 PM
"Sicko" gets even sicker. #Mickey thinks that Cuba has great health care. #That must be the reason they called in a doctor from Spain to check out the sick dictator.

http://newsbusters.org/node/13003

w5klb
05-25-2007, 08:10 PM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ May 25 2007,12:48)]"Sicko" gets even sicker. #Mickey thinks that Cuba has great health care. #That must be the reason they called in a doctor from Spain to check out the sick dictator.

http://newsbusters.org/node/13003
Had the gov'ment been smart, they would have revoked Fat Boy's citizenship while being in Cuba and told him to stay there with with his hero "Comrade Fidel." I guess I'm doing too much wishful thinking. <sigh>

K3XR
05-25-2007, 10:14 PM
CBS pushing Mickey's newest hoax. #From the same network that brought us Dan Rather and phoney documents.

http://newsbusters.org/node/13009

K0RGR
05-25-2007, 10:52 PM
Moore never claimed that Fahrenheit 9/11 was a documentary. It's an opinion piece.

Here's another view of the movie:

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11_controversy)

Moore's facts were at least as good as President Bush's "facts" that sent us to war in Iraq.

Here's Moore's own justification for the citations in the movie:
Moore (http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/)

Moore asks a lot of questions, which he doesn't answer. He implies a lot of things based on peculiarities he's observed.

n2nh
05-26-2007, 12:16 AM
Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ May 25 2007,18:52)]Moore never claimed that Fahrenheit 9/11 was a documentary. It's an opinion piece.

Here's another view of the movie:

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11_controversy)

Moore's facts were at least as good as President Bush's "facts" that sent us to war in Iraq.

Here's Moore's own justification for the citations in the movie:
Moore (http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/)

Moore asks a lot of questions, which he doesn't answer. He implies a lot of things based on peculiarities he's observed.
Yes. He asks you to think for yourself and draw inferences from what he's shown. You can always tell the neocons in the audience. Theirs are the heads that are smoking. It usually starts with smoke coming out of their ears.

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n2ize
05-26-2007, 06:07 AM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ May 25 2007,12:48)]"Sicko" gets even sicker. #Mickey thinks that Cuba has great health care. #That must be the reason they called in a doctor from Spain to check out the sick dictator.

http://newsbusters.org/node/13003
Actually despite the embargo and other related problems the Cuba health care system scores pretty good. And unlike our health care system it doesn;t bankrupt nearly as many of it's citizens.

Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba)

K3XR
05-27-2007, 01:30 AM
Maybe Mickey Moose could do a movie about #this great dictator and Castro bud. #If only we could be so lucky in the US.

http://www.reuters.com/article....&rpc=22 (http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN2621739620070526?feedType=RSS&rpc=22)