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KW4MW
04-22-2007, 03:58 PM
http://www.openthefuture.com/cheeseburger_CF.html

Do you know your burger's carbon footprint (http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/042207/lif_9369051.shtml)

Quote[/b] ]YOUR BURGER: 4.77 lbs. of carbon dioxide
The greenhouse gases created in the making of a cheeseburger are about the same as those from driving an H3 Hummer for two hours.


Meat: Based on 3.17 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when diesel is used in production:
Crop production: 8.50 oz.
Stable, slaughter, cutting: .56 oz.
Transportation: 1.07 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when electricity is used in production:
Grinding, freezing: 1.12oz.
Storage: 4.19 oz.
Frying: 7.36 oz.

Other
Methane: 65.83 oz.

Total carbon dioxide produced: 4.11 lbs.

Bun: Based on 2.61 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when diesel is used in production:
Crop production: .41 oz.
Transportation: .17 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when electricity is used in production:
Milling: .28 oz.
Baking: 4.19 oz.
Storage: 2.89 oz.

Total carbon dioxide produced: .50 lbs.

Cheese: Based on 0.53 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when diesel is used in production:
Crop production: .63 oz.
Milking, making cheese: .39 oz.
Transportation: .27 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when electricity is used in production:
Storage: .09 oz.

Total carbon dioxide produced: .09 lbs.

Onions: Based on 0.06 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when diesel is used in production:
Crop production: .03 oz.
Transportation: .02 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when electricity is used in production:
Freeze drying: .38 oz.
Storage: .04 oz.

Total carbon dioxide produced: .03 lbs.

Lettuce: Based on 0.99 oz.

Crop production: .10 oz.
Transportation: .10 oz.
Carbon dioxide produced when electricity is used in production:
Storage: .19 oz.
Total carbon dioxide produced: .02 lbs.

Pickles: Based on 0.26 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when diesel is used in production:
Crop production: .02 oz.
Transportation: .03 oz.

Carbon dioxide produced when electricity is used in production:
Storage: .01 oz.
Pickling: .19 oz.

Total carbon dioxide produced: .02 lbs.

Numbers are approximations and represent CO2 equivalents. We used minimum energy numbers for each food process as supplied in the "Energy Use in the Food Sector" study by Stockholm University and the Swiss Federal Institute. We then divided the processes into those that primarily use diesel fuel and those that use electricity generated, the method found at openthefuture.com. This does not include restaurant energy and car use to get the hamburger. We rounded to the hundredths place.


They forgot the tomato, mustard, ketchup, and or mayo.

N5NPO
04-22-2007, 05:12 PM
THIS IS INSANE!!!!
What next, enviro-friendly food?
Anyone want to guess what kind of food is enviro-friendly?

WF7A
04-22-2007, 05:13 PM
Soylent Green?

WA2DYA
04-22-2007, 07:06 PM
Aren't trees supposed to recycle that stuff. That's what I learned in eight grade general science class. So shove them burgers in and worry about the methane.

--- CHAS

KA8DKT
04-22-2007, 08:05 PM
Yeah, but we keep cutting down the trees...

-gary

VE7NOT
04-22-2007, 08:21 PM
This is why my beer, lamb, pork comes from a local farm http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

N7CPC
04-22-2007, 08:55 PM
I prefer 9.54 lbs worth of burgers plus a few more pounds of CO2 for a double order of onion rings!

Damn, now I'm hungry...Maybe not breathing as well..........

KC2ESD
04-22-2007, 09:34 PM
There is CO2 in Coca Cola also, thats what makes it bubble.
If you fear Global Warming stop drinking soft drinks, they put CO2 in the air too via fizzing, and burps. I my self will drink a Coke for I enjoy it and Global Warming is a Busted Myth.

N5NPO
04-22-2007, 09:57 PM
Quote[/b] (KA8DKT @ April 22 2007,13:05)]Yeah, but we keep cutting down the trees...

-gary
As trees decay, there is more CO2 produced during the decay process than the tree actually ever converted. The real high capacity CO2 to oxygen converters is sea kelp...
At least that is what I heard someplace.....

K8MHZ
04-22-2007, 10:00 PM
Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ April 22 2007,09:57)]Quote[/b] (KA8DKT @ April 22 2007,13:05)]Yeah, but we keep cutting down the trees...

-gary
As trees decay, there is more CO2 produced during the decay process than the tree actually ever converted. The real high capacity CO2 to oxygen converters is sea kelp...
At least that is what I heard someplace.....
You are correct!

But I like the trees too so I don't care if people don't know about the kelp.

WA2DYA
04-22-2007, 11:27 PM
Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ April 22 2007,14:57)]Quote[/b] (KA8DKT @ April 22 2007,13:05)]Yeah, but we keep cutting down the trees...

-gary
As trees decay, there is more CO2 produced during the decay process than the tree actually ever converted. The real high capacity CO2 to oxygen converters is sea kelp...
At least that is what I heard someplace.....
I think I read about the kelp somewhere also. Here's another thing I think I read about somewhere. The composition of the atmosphere at the south pole is the same as in a rain jungle.

How could that be? There are no oxygen producing plants within at least a thousand miles of the pole. I've asked about that and no one seems to be able to comment.

Anyway, that carbon dioxide from burgers must be the real cause of our glaciers are melting back because that number on the Golden Arches keeps incrementing faster than the glaciers are decrementing.

--- CHAS

WF7A
04-23-2007, 01:37 AM
It's easier to eat a burger than a Hummer. That, and a burger is cheaper than a "hummer", but I digress. ;>

k8jd
04-23-2007, 02:32 AM
Something to think about as I drive my extended body ChevyTrailBlazer across town to get a burger and Coke at the drive thru window.

kg4kww
04-23-2007, 02:42 AM
CO2 in coca cola thats what makes it bubble and you FART!! FARTING IS GOOD.

BURGERS ARE BAD!!!

KI4PEQ
04-23-2007, 02:56 AM
Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ April 22 2007,11:12)]THIS IS INSANE!!!!
What next, enviro-friendly food?
Anyone want to guess what kind of food is enviro-friendly?
Tofu and sprouts, and veggie burgers.

PeTA, I turn and take a leak in your general direction.

K8MHZ
04-23-2007, 03:03 AM
Quote[/b] ]Other
Methane: 65.83 oz.


Since when is methane considered to be carbon dioxide?

And 65.83 oz? #To cook a burger? #That is equivalent to more BTUs than the propane in an entire 3 lb. tank.

Somebody is pulling somebody's leg here.....

4.77 lbs. of CO2. Yeah, right.

kg4kww
04-23-2007, 03:05 AM
I have gas later

KC2ESD
04-23-2007, 03:45 AM
Methane is a Green House Gas four times more potent then CO2 and guess were it comes from, your rear end. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

ab8ro
04-23-2007, 05:39 AM
Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ April 21 2007,20:56)]Quote[/b] (N5NPO @ April 22 2007,11:12)]THIS IS INSANE!!!!
What next, enviro-friendly food?
Anyone want to guess what kind of food is enviro-friendly?
Tofu and sprouts, and veggie burgers.

PeTA, I turn and take a leak in your general direction.
It's interesting to look at the details. A large chunk comes from frying the burger. Frying a vegetarian burger may or may not consume much less fuel.

My better half is a vegetarian and she frequently spends MUCH more time cooking at the stove than I do. Granted, the energy required to produce the grain required to produce beef is also a significant portion of the total requirement, but, what would be more interesting is a more honest comparison.

Instead of comparing a hamburger to driving a hummer. Let's compare the carbon footprint of a hamburger to a nutritionally equivalent non-meat option and also to a nutritionally equivalent eco-friendly option.

From that, we can see how other metrics like "taste" will stack up. It also makes sense to compare energy consumed from eating to energy consumed from driving, heating and cooling, etc. But to just single out a hamburger and compare it to driving a hummer is more sensationalist than it is informative.

YMMV.

kg4kww
04-23-2007, 11:20 PM
How much of a burger that you eat gets dispensed as a fart?

This is why people get bloated after eating burgers.

lets see if you know it alls can figure that out..

kg4kww
04-23-2007, 11:21 PM
BTW KC2ESD is right, FARTS are a GREENHOUSE GAS.

WA4NJY
04-24-2007, 02:21 AM
I asked the science teacher at school how a gas like
# #CO2 is weighed. His reply is that in all use he has
# #seen it is measured in parts per million, not weight.
# #What are we missing?

#The local enviro nut-case at school tried to slide in
# #some heavy science by quoting a source that said
# #every gallon of gasoline produces 20 pounds of
# #CO2 when burned. I asked her to state the weight
# #of unburned gas, she has yet to reply.
#
# #A lot of this stuff is just bunk!!